Linux-Setup Digest #255, Volume #19 Thu, 27 Jul 00 11:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Defraging against LILO? ("Craig J Matthews")
Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom" ("Pig")
Re: Token Ring Network card on Linux (Stephen Hui)
Gnome or KDE ("Pig")
Re: Gnome or KDE (arbu)
Re: Gnome or KDE (tolan)
Re: Token Ring Network card on Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: building a kernel/inspiron 7500 ("Michael Perry")
Re: help with installing printers (Wally Brock)
Newbie Question- Kernel weird probs ("albert")
Too much Disk Activity ? (N van Bolhuis)
Unable to boot into Linux ("Manfred Suttorp")
Large HD + Linux + Win98 (Jan Fischer)
Re: Token Ring Network card on Linux (Werner Kliewer)
Couple 'o Questions (dA FlaVa)
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Reply-To: "Craig J Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Craig J Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:55:49 -0400
Scandisk cannot and will not write to an ext2fs filesystem. The only remote
way Scandisk could corrupt it would be if the partitions are overlapping,
which is caused by a misconfiguration when partitioning took place.
Scandisk WILL, however, overwrite the MASTER BOOT RECORD if "Check boot
record" is selected in Scandisk and FIX ERRORS AUTOMATICALLY is turned on.
You should never run Microsoft Scandisk in this mode if you are using a
third party bootloader such as LILO.
Craig J Matthews
WAN Administrator, FK Radio
"Scott Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8l7tk7$gt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have the same problem. I'm running a dual Win98/Redhat 6.2 system.
When
> I run Defrag under Windows, it seems to corrupt the Linux partitions. My
> Linux boot disk did not help, as the ext2 file sytsem was corrupted and
fsck
> could not fix it. I had to reinstall Linux, and not use defrag.
>
>
>
>
>
> Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I wonder if someone might know what the solution for my problem could
> > be. I know some other people that had the same problem, but no one knew
> > how to solve it.
> >
> > I had installed both Linux Mandrake 7.0 and the Win98 on the same hard
> > disk, when I decided to defragment the disk under Windoze. I thought
> > that this should not be a problem, because Windows was not able to 'see'
> > the Linux partitions. It has however destroyed the LILO, so it is not
> > possible to boot up neither Linux nor Windoze.
> >
> > Someone told me that it might be possible to recover the system by
> > reinstalling the linux as an upgrade, and that it would recover the
> > LILO, but it was not possible to reinstall it, because it seems that it
> > has also destroyed the partition system of Linux.
> >
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to recover the system after this
> > problem, or any idea how to defrag the hard disk without destroying the
> > Linux?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Unai
>
>
>
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From: "Pig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom"
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:21:26 +0800
Could anyone suggest me a good and free vcd/dvd player?
I am now using the "mpegtv" to play a vcd.
Once I mount the cdrom, the "/cdrom" must be belongs to the "root"
Q: Is it normal?
As the software need to do streaming of the my cdrom,
I can only play the vcd by "root".
Pls. Help!!!!
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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Token Ring Network card on Linux
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:20:31 -0500
See if www.linuxtr.net has any info.
Hope this helps.
Stephen.
Simon He wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was trring to setup Red Hat Linux 6.2 on a Token Ring Network, somehow the
> token ring card could not be initialized at bootup even after editing the
> conf.module file. The error message I'm getting is:
>
> localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/net/ibmtr.o: init_module: Device or
> resource busy
> localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/net/ibmtr.o: insmod tr0 failed
> localhost kernel: ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
>
> I have tried both ISA and PCI card but to no avail, could anyone provide me
> with solution to this problem ?
>
> Simon
--
Stephen Hui, Austin, Texas
Computer Terms: Programmer - A red-eyed, mumbling mammal
capable of conversing with inanimate objects.
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From: "Pig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Gnome or KDE
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:25:03 +0800
Hi All:
I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
I've tried different GUIs.
I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
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From: arbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:33:38 +0100
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Think it's called personal preference. :-)
This might by the way generate a discussion or two.
yours alan
Pig wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
> I've tried different GUIs.
> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
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Think it's called personal preference. :-)
<p>This might by the way generate a discussion or two.
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From: tolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:15:15 +0100
Well KDE is move developed, gnome is more GNUie, has anybodt checked out
the new beta's of them both? anybody using kde with windowmaker not kwm?
Pig wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
> I've tried different GUIs.
> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Token Ring Network card on Linux
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:09:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Simon He" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was trring to setup Red Hat Linux 6.2 on a Token Ring Network,
somehow the
> token ring card could not be initialized at bootup even after editing
the
> conf.module file. The error message I'm getting is:
>
> localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/net/ibmtr.o: init_module:
Device or
> resource busy
> localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/net/ibmtr.o: insmod tr0
failed
> localhost kernel: ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
>
> I have tried both ISA and PCI card but to no avail, could anyone
provide me
> with solution to this problem ?
>
> Simon
>
>
Hi. Its been awhile since I put together my TR/ethernet router, but I
believe that I had to build the TR card into the kernel (rather than
using modules). I probably would have tried modules first (it was only
the 2nd linux machine I got going). Also, make sure that you know what
your interrupts & shared RAM & addresses & all the other funky stuff
that TR cards have on 'em are - I'm sure I had to do that through DOS.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: building a kernel/inspiron 7500
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:28:38 -0800
In article <8loqp9$oq9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
wrote:
>
> I'm trying to build a Kernel so I can have sound on my Dell Inspiron
> 7500, what a nightmare! This time the 'make modules' has errors in it.
> Also, the how-to says to pick a modutils patch with the same version as
> the kernel, but I don't see any 2.2.16 patches on the ftp.kernle.org
> site!
>
> There must be an easier way!!
>
> Thanks
Can't you use the sound card drivers that Zach Brown wrote for the Inspirons?
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Wally Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,apana.lists.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: help with installing printers
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:42:51 GMT
Place the following line into your "/etc/conf.modules" file:
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
Good Luck,
Wally
Eric Wong wrote:
> Help me please......
> i've just install RedHat linux 6.0 to act as a server in my office of 8
> win98pc and 2 Macs, it works fine as a file server. But I hit a brick wall
> when I tried to install an Epson Laser (EPL-5700L) printer. I couldn't get
> it work. I look at the printtool section and couldn't find my printer on
> the select list.
>
> The Question is how do I install the printer to act as network printer
> amongs the pcs and the Macs?? Help is very much appreciated..
>
> Thanx you in advance
>
> Regards
>
> Eric
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "albert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Newbie Question- Kernel weird probs
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:33:44 +0100
Hello plp
Here's the thing:
If I boot the system (dual boot: win98/linux) for the first time, linux runs
ok, goes to prompt and I can go right on. BUT if I do a restart, do
something on windows, and then restart to enter Linux... It hangs on the
line: PII. hda.... whatever. I don't understand why, but my guess is that
since my HD is about 8.4Gb and linux is in the 4th partition (logical), LILO
must be failing somehow. Anyway, I tought at first that it was a Kernel
prob, so I tried to compile one for myself using some notes I took from here
and there. Results: Crash and Burn. I did everything 'by the book' and It
failed, resulting in reinstallation of linux. I'm out ofd answers for this
and I need expert help, can some guro out there give sompe directions ?
Thanks in Advance
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From: N van Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Too much Disk Activity ?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:38:43 +0200
Hello,
I'm running RedHat linux 6.2 on my 2nd partition of my SCSI HD.
As soon as my system and X (I use gnome) is up and running I hear
disk activity every few seconds.
After a couple of minutes 'dmesg' show hundreds of the following messages:
VFS: disk change detected on device sr(11,0)
VFS: disk change detected on device sr(11,1)
Anybody have any idea what's going one ?
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From: "Manfred Suttorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to boot into Linux
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:46:56 GMT
Hi all,
After 2 days trying to get a working SuSE 6.4 installation on my PC, it gets
really frustrating....
In setup (YaST2), there are several options where to install LILO to, but
none of them seem to work.
If I choose to install it to floppy, it doesn't. It doesn't even attempt to
access the floppy drive. (The drive is OK. I tried to boot a RedHat boot
disk and that worked, I used the same drive to create a boot disk using
rawrite and that worked.)
If I choose to install it to the MBR, it doesn't. After rebooting, LILO does
not appear. Instead, the NT boot manager shows up.
Of course, installing the freaking stuff cost you over an hour from start to
finish.
Then I decided to create a bootfloppy manually. The manual optimistically
says: use
dd if=Your_Kernel of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k
and for Your_Kernel, /boot/vmlinuz should be filled in.
Of course, it isn't there, and also not in the root (as it used to be
according to the manual)
Of course, the recommended NT-coexistence install doesn't work for me
either, because I wouldn't know WHAT to fill in at the 'image=' entry of
lilo.conf.
When I installed RedHat 5.2 some year ago (on the very same machine, same
setup with NT), I didn't have all these problems.
In fact, in utter frustration, I have just re-installed RedHat 5.2 again and
it works right away.
I am NOT impressed, NOT amused, and very tired.
Can anybody help me get back on track with this one and prevent me throwing
the entire SuSE box and CD's in the shredder?
Thanks in advance.
Manfred
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:52:19 +0100
From: Jan Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Large HD + Linux + Win98
Hello!
I have got the following problem:
I want to install both Linux (SuSE6.4) and Windows 98 on a new system
with a 20.5 GB Western-Digital IDE HD. I have already spent some time
trying, but nothing seems to work.
Obviously Windows and Linux cannot agree on the partitioning of the
harddisk. I have tried both LBA and NORMAL as BIOS modes for the disk.
Every time the result was that one of the OSes only recognized 500MB or
8GB of the disk, or the partitions overlapped.
Thus my questions are:
- which mode is the right one (LBA, NORMAL or LARGE)
- which software should be used for the partitioning (DOS fdisk,
Linux fdisk, cfdisk, yast or WD Data Lifeguard)
- are there special parameters for the kernel or for fdisk that have to
be specified
So far I think I have found out that Windows only works with LBA, Linux
only with NORMAL.
If you know a solution: Please answer by E-Mail.
Jan Fischer
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Token Ring Network card on Linux
From: Werner Kliewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:50:08 CDT
Only IBM ISA cards that are NOT LAN_Streamers are supported. A very few other cards
will work because they use the IBM
chipset. The very latest PCI card from IBM is also supposed to work, but I have not
tried them yet. I have TR running
on a number of Linux PC's, including my laptop, but they all use IBM brand, older
model cards.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Simon He wrote:
> From: "Simon He" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups:
>comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
> Subject: Token Ring Network card on Linux
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:49:51 +1000
>
> Hi,
>
> I was trring to setup Red Hat Linux 6.2 on a Token Ring Network, somehow the
> token ring card could not be initialized at bootup even after editing the
> conf.module file. The error message I'm getting is:
>
> localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/net/ibmtr.o: init_module: Device or
> resource busy
> localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/net/ibmtr.o: insmod tr0 failed
> localhost kernel: ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
>
> I have tried both ISA and PCI card but to no avail, could anyone provide me
> with solution to this problem ?
>
>
> Simon
>
Werner Kliewer
in Winnipeg
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From: dA FlaVa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Couple 'o Questions
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:59:57 -0400
Linux newbie questions here:
1) How do I get a list of process ID's so I can kill a process?
2) How do I determine how much space is free per partition?
3) How do I disable Telnet?
Thanks!!
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