Linux-Setup Digest #267, Volume #20 Thu, 21 Dec 00 17:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: playing MP3's with linux (Chiefy)
Re: UUCP? (Eric Ho)
Re: file permissions ("Kurt R. Rahlfs")
Re: file permissions (David)
Re: HELP: Cannot login (GUI Mode) (David)
keyboard configuration problems (Rafa Alcantara)
Re: Setting up diskless booting linux clients (Andrei Ivanov)
Re: how do i find WinME back? (Jixian Yao)
Mandrake 6.1 Help Please with Video Card & Monitor (Harry Broom)
Stty questions for serial port modem ("Scott M. Navarre")
Hard Disk e faccine!! ("Ciccio")
Hard Disk and little faces! ("Ciccio")
Re: Working with a small HD and a Jaz Drive (Dan Birchall)
Re: Getting cable internet to initialise correctly..... (Trevor Kerr)
Re: Dual Xeon hangs ("D. Stimits")
Linksys LNE100TX success story ("Alexander V. Voinov")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Subject: Re: playing MP3's with linux
Date: 21 Dec 2000 19:13:36 GMT
20 Dec 2000 02:00 UTC, Rasmus B�g Hansen did say to the dudes:
>With mpg123 (console based) you should be able to use a 100MHz 486. With
>downsampling even 66MHz. But I never confirmed that myself.
I can confirm that MP3's will play perfectly on a 486-100MHz using
'mpg123' though it's close to the limit. 95% CPU is the norm.
--
Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven...
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From: Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UUCP?
Date: 21 Dec 2000 19:25:46 GMT
Oh yeah ... it is particularly great for people with no static IP
address. I used to run a Linux server and used UUCP (dialup) to get
mail and news, worked wonderfully :)
Best Regards,
Eric Ho
M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Yavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> I know this is a unix to unix copy command, but how would this be used
:>in a dialup senario? It seems that it is used to give (DHCP) info???
: No. UUCP is a method to transfer files, usually mail and news, in
: a compressed format over a serial line or a TCP/IP connection. It
: is highly efficient, but needs some knowledgeable person at both
: sides of the connection to be established. Once setup, however,
: a UUCP link will work flawlessly for years without any need for
: further interaction.
: See comp.mail.uucp or muc.lists.taylor-uucp for more details.
: Michael
: --
: Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
: Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
: Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: "Kurt R. Rahlfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file permissions
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:27:10 -0600
Vi doesn't do this on my system but emacs will. It appers that when the file
save is force the permissions on the file are changed to allow the save. Try
changing the permissions on the directory (if it is feasable) so that the user
does not have write permissions in the directory. Then vi won't be able to
change the file permissions of the files in that directory.
FYI: This also allows the scenario that lets the the user write to the file
(if it is set writeable to the user's group or other) and the user can not
change it's permissions or ownership.
Lucien wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a rather annoying problem :
> I have a text file belonging to root which permissions are 644
> I edit it with vi, insert some text, and type :w, it's refused (OK so far)
> I type :w! and... the file is written !!
> The worse is that the file now belongs to user !
>
> Does anyone has got an idea of how this is possible and how to prevent it ?
> (my linux is a RH 6.1)
>
> Thank you for helping
>
> Lucien
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file permissions
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:35:13 GMT
Lucien wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have a rather annoying problem :
> I have a text file belonging to root which permissions are 644
> I edit it with vi, insert some text, and type :w, it's refused (OK so far)
> I type :w! and... the file is written !!
> The worse is that the file now belongs to user !
>
> Does anyone has got an idea of how this is possible and how to prevent it ?
> (my linux is a RH 6.1)
>
> Thank you for helping
>
> Lucien
If you don't want users to have access to it you can "chmod 600 file" or
if you want them to be able to read it but not change it use "chattr +i
file".
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 98.908% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: Cannot login (GUI Mode)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:40:32 GMT
Subha Pindiproli wrote:
>
> Help I cannot get to login from GUI mode (KDE), it sits there for a
> while and comes back to the login prompt.. with an OK sign (Gui-Widget)
> during login process..
>
> However I can login to the system in ASCII mode, and get into KDE Desktop
> by typing 'startx'
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
I had a similar problem after upgrading with a clean install and found
that if I "init 1" then "passwd" or "passwd username" and re-enter the
password it seemed to correct the problem.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 98.908% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Rafa Alcantara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: keyboard configuration problems
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:41:23 +0100
I have problems with the keyboard configuration after having upgraded to
RH7.0
(possibly related to XF86 4.0?)
Symptoms:
I can't use backspace, as it works as the delete key. I can't use the
<at> or
<number sign> characters (any Alt-graph character) in any application.
When I shutdown, I can see some messages related to the charset: xkbcomp
has
problems with the include file "es" (I intend to use the Spanish
keyboard) and
with the symbols file "default".
Treatment so far (useless):
I've tried the GUI solution (choosing the spanish keyboard from a list
in
linuxconfig or kde control center). No way.
After reading carefully the news, I've collected some pieces of
information
about keyboard configuration.
I've messed with some files (/etc/X11/XF86Config and others whose names
I can't
remember now). No way.
Wish:
To use the symbols (<at>, <number sign>, etc.) and backspace as before
RH7.
Thank you very much.
--
Rafa Alc�ntara
mailto:Rafa.at.Alcantara.com
http://Rafa.Alcantara.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Ivanov)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Setting up diskless booting linux clients
Date: 21 Dec 2000 19:44:11 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking John Von Essen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now, other than what I said above, I dont know where to go next. If I
Try to read this: http://cui.unige.ch/info/pc/remote-boot/howto.html
--
andrei
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From: Jixian Yao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do i find WinME back?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:50:33 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, Keith, for the recommendation about Loadlin and WinME.
The problem I still have is that the installation of linux did not even ask me
to create a boot disk (do I have to get into expert installation mode?)
RH 6.1 (kernel 2.2.12) does not support USB, and the computer only
has USB access to the floppy, so I guess even the linux installation asked,
it would not be able to find the floppy drive. So I am sort of deasd in water,
once I replace the MBR, I'll have to re-install linux (i am afraid it'll wipe
away
all my modifications, how do I let it upgrade, not formatting the partition,
that's probably the only way to get both OS to work).
Thanks again,
Jixian
Keith wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:36:52 -0800, Jixian Yao
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I installed RH linux 6.1 on a Sony PCG-Z505LS notebook, in order to make
> > X work, I had to
> > add a line in the lilo.conf, hence needed to re-run lilo, after that
> > WinMe didn't boot anymore,
> > I can still see the dos entry at LILO prompt, and it just hangs when
> > selected. Linux boots fine.
> > RH Linux 6.1 (kernel 2.2.12-20) does not support USB (the floppy drive
> > is connected thru USB port).
> >
> > I tried to unload lilo by lilo -u, it didn't seem to work (lilo still
> > there, and still boots fine to Linux).
> > WinME CDs (recovery and the basic) don't boot. If I could somehow
> > recover windows, I'll
> > use loadlin to load linux from windows, that seems a safer way to have
> > to OS on one disk.
> >
> > Could somebody help me to recover Windows without losing (re-installing)
> > Linux? (I can't even
> > create a bood disk to floppy).
> >
>
> In dos, you will need to use your Windows/dos Boot floppy, type:
> fdisk /mbr
>
> When you installed RH 6.1 you did make a boot floppy right?
>
> On RH CD there is a document and a program in /images called
> RAWRITE.*
> you can use to create a boot floppy for linux.
> Boot up linux and create a new lilo or create a boot floppy
> for your system. In some systems the command mkbootdisk is
> available. See the Boot Disk How-to for more help. I don't
> recommend using loadlin with WinME, but if you must read the
> loadlin docs on your CD or the Loadlin How-to.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Keith (Use Reply-to for email)
> Where do you discover free software for Windows? Strongsignals DOT COM is a
> great place to start: http://Strongsignals.com "Where would Christianity be
> if Jesus got eight to fifteen years with time off for good behavior?" NY
> State Senator James Donovan, speaking in support of capital punishment.
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From: Harry Broom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Mandrake 6.1 Help Please with Video Card & Monitor
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:58:23 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Everyone
I'm very much a newbie, but I'm trying to move away from the MS
Windoze and I just got my hands a copy of the above Mandrake version.
The install seems to have gone OK after a couple of problems but the
lats re-installation seems to have gone OK. I just want to get X
Windows going now. However I have a problem.
I have a VideoLogic Grafixstar 670 with the S3 Savage4 3D video
chipset on a PCI card and a Taxan ErgoVision 730 TCO95-S Monitor.
Now according to the stuff on VideoLogics' site the card does work
with Linux but I can find nothing to give me any further clues. I'v
tried numerous attempts with Xconfigurator & xf86config giving what I
believe to be the correct information from my manuals etc but when I
run startx it all fails awfully.
If anyone can help or point me in the right direction that'd be great.
I'm using Win98 to do this and it would be really good if I could
Linux going (graphically at least) to explore more of it's potential.
__________
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights"
John Paul Getty 1892 - 1976
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From: "Scott M. Navarre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Stty questions for serial port modem
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:31:22 GMT
Hello,
I have a modem connected to a serial port and need to suppress the EOT
(End Of Transmission) signal. Under SCO OpenServer, you could use the
command 'stty' on the port with the option 'raw' which would take care of
this. Linux (at least RH7) does not seem to define 'raw' the same way for
'stty'?
I want the modem to stay connected after the transmission. We are using
the modem to print to a remote printer connected directly to a modem at the
remote site. When we print to the serial port (through the modems to the
printer) it works... but as soon as the program that is doing the printing
ends, the modem hangs up regardless of whether it finished printing
everything in it's buffer. We are using BASIS Pro5 program to do the
printing, which we have done successfully in the past under SCO
OpenServer...
Thanks for any help or tips,
Scott Navarre
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From: "Ciccio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hard Disk e faccine!!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:39:30 +0100
Scusate, avevo gi� scritto qualcosa sui miei problemi con l'hard Disk! La
situazione si � complicata in quanto quando tento di fare il mount mi si
apre una finestra con le faccine, molto carine tra l'altro ma non credo
siano indice di bont�! Ho impostato i parametri per l'hard disk sul file
fstab come indicato nello How-to Config, ed � sempre andato tutto bene, mi
compariva un'icona sul desktop stile CD-Rom molto efficente, ma ora niente!
Domanda: E' cambiato qualcosa con il Kernel 2.4.0-test11 ?
Simone Maccanti
mcsim(at)tiscalinet.it
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From: "Ciccio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hard Disk and little faces!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:52:56 +0100
I have already write about my hard disk problem, bat the situation is become
very serius! When i try to mount the hard disk, appear a windows with a
strange message and little faces... i think isn't a good thing!!! I have
followed the instruction in Config-how-to, and write on the file "fstab",
but... nothing!
Is it change anything with the new Kernel 2.4.0-test11 ?
Thanks (sorry for my English)
Simone Maccanti
mcsim(at)tiscalinet.it
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Birchall)
Subject: Re: Working with a small HD and a Jaz Drive
Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:14:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux Guru's:
It's spelled B-O-F-H, but it's pronounced "Guru."
> I have recently installed Linux(Redhat 6.2) on an old machine at work(a
> P133mhz w/96mbs of ram upgraded to P400mhz).
You have recently installed Linux(Redhat 6.2) on a fairly modern machine
at work (much more so than the 486-75 w/36mb of ram I am sending this
from).
> Unfortunately, this machine has a pretty small harddrive(only 1.2 GB),
Unfortunately, this machine has a hard drive that's smaller than the
ones they sell nowadays, even if it's really pretty large (much more so
than the 350mb drive I used for quite some time on the aforementioned
486, running Redhat 6.0 just fine, with X).
> so I installed a Jaz 2GB drive.
so you blew $250-$300 on 2GB of slow removable disk, when you could get
a hard drive 10 times bigger for half the price. Masochist.
> I would like to use this machine for experimentation and
> development, so I am therefore badly in need of additional space.
That's some pretty serious experimentation and development. It's
okay, you're among fellow Linux users. You can come out and say
"I would like to use this machine for mp3's, warez and pr0n."
> The original hard drive layout obviously put everything on the systems
> fixed hard drive(the root directory is 99% full).
Were you planning to use the root directory to store your personal data?
No? Then what's the problem? How are your other partitions doing?
/usr? /home? You did create other partitions, right?
> I plan on installing the upgraded desktops from Gnome and KDE, in
> addition to ORACLE, Java, etc..
Okay.
> I am afraid of the speed that I will encounter if I load all of
> these things on the Jaz drive.
For values of speed that approach zero?
> Being a newbie, I am not exactly sure how I should proceed.
The horrible truth comes out.
> Any help with the following questions will be appreciated:
> 1) Does it make any sense to clear room on the fixed hard drive for
> stuff that is going to be accessed all of the time like Helix GNOME or
> the newest KDE?
Yes. Sort of. Things do get loaded into RAM when you use them, you
know. Also, one would hope you might use some sort of installation
management tool, like, say, RPM, to replace old versions of those
programs with new ones, thus reducing the amount of new disk space you
need.
> If so then what should I move(I have included a summary of my HD at
> the bottom of this message).
I suspect you'll want most things other than /home and possibly stuff
like /usr/doc, /usr/man, /usr/local/doc and /usr/local/man to be on
your fixed disk.
> In addition, how much of a hassle will this actually be?
If you know how to copy directory trees across filesystems and mount
drives, it should be fairly trivial. If you don't...
> Although, I think it would be a good learning experience I don't
> want to spend a week and a half doing it.
Shouldn't take that long.
> 2) Assuming that it does make sense to move the files that are not used
> as much to the jaz drive. What steps do I actually need to take to
> move the files then let the system know where to find them?
First, figure out whether you can partition a Jaz disk. I don't deal
with removable media other than CF, so I'm honestly not sure. If you
can, set up partitions for each chunk of your directory tree that you'll
want to move onto it. Maybe the Jaz is /dev/hdc, and /dev/hdc1 will
hold /usr/man, /dev/hdc2 will hold /usr/doc, etc.
Mount each partition on some other mount point, move the stuff into it
from the current directory on your fixed disk, and empty out the
directory on the fixed disk. Set up rc.local, mtab, or whatever to
mount those partitions at the appropriate mount points when you boot
up, shove in the Jaz, or whatever.
> 3) Am I better off just re-installing Linux from scratch and trying to
> get the file system set up the way that I want it during the install
> routine. I would like to avoid this, however, I am not keen on
> spending a week(remember I am a newbie) to just get the files the way
> that I would like them. I think there are more important things I can
> learn once the system is up.
This would probably not be an entirely bad thing. I'm not sure how you
managed to fill up a 1.2 gig drive on just the install in the first
place. If you re-installed and were a little picky about what you
put on, you'd probably wind up with plenty of room for Oracle, Java,
KDE, and GNOME. Then only /home would have to live on the Jaz disk.
> 4) Is there any directory that I can probably do without that would
> help me save a lot of space. I am afraid of just deleting stuff since
> I plan on experimenting with this machine and don't want to delete
> stuff that I will need later. I know this question is kind of broad
> (since you don't know what I am likely to experiment with) but any
> advice would help.
Even though you're a masochist, I can't recommend deleting /usr/man,
/usr/doc, /usr/local/man or /usr/local/doc, since you said you're a
newbie. Instead, I'd suggest doing an rpm -qa, then an rpm -qi [name]
for each package that comes up, and figuring out whether the things
you've installed on your system are things you want, need, or will
ever even use. I suspect a lot of them are not. Rather than deleting
directories or directory trees, delete software packages you don't
need.
-Dan
--
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Peruse my opinions, at http://dbirchall.epinions.com/user-dbirchall
Corporate Holidays 2001 - http://208.184.171.20/articles/262573.htm
My addresses expire... take out the hex stamp if your reply bounces
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From: Trevor Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Getting cable internet to initialise correctly.....
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:48:20 +1100
If you are using RedHatLinux7.0, this may help ..
Edit the ifup script to append "-h coXXXXXXX-a" in the '..ARGS=' lines
for pump (and dhcpcd)
--
Trevor Kerr
Blackburn Victoria Australia
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:59:05 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Dual Xeon hangs
ekk wrote:
>
> Sorry for the duplicate post - I noticed I hadn't changed the subject
> line.
>
> ekk wrote:
>
> > Hello
> > I have a dual Xeon 550 machine that hangs often, somewhat randomly when
> > I'm doing some CPU intensive stuff. In the most recent crash, I was
> > heavily using only one CPU, It doesn't seem to be CPU temp related,
> > becuase just before it crashed, the temp was 45.5 deg. C. I'm running
> > RH 6.1, kernel 2.2.14 - configured pretty much the same way as another
> > dual 650 Pentium III which has no trouble. /var/log/messages contains
> > little helpful info. I am running all the same daemons as the 650.
> > Anyone know what's going on? In the meantime, I'm going to put 2.2.16
> > on there to see if that helps.
> > Ken
What chipset does it use? If it is i840 your problem is the broken
IO-APIC of the i840 chipset. In that case boot with kernel option
"noapic". You'd lose performance since hardware interrupts would be
serviced by only one cpu under that option, but stability will go up
dramatically.
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:11:20 -0800
From: "Alexander V. Voinov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Linksys LNE100TX success story
Hi All,
The story is really short. I have installed Mandrake 7.2 with its 2.2.17
kernel and found out that tulip.o it ships works well with the mentioned
card. I have had no success with Mandrake 7.1, like many people (with
this and other distros) who wrote to various linux-specific newsgroups.
Now those people who are tired of battles with recompiling tulip.c may
have a simple workaround.
I apologize if while I didn't track this problems for several weeks the
situation changed and the problem is fixed completely regardless of any
particular distro and its version. But in case it may be useful
anyway...
With my best regards
Alexander
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