Linux-Setup Digest #274, Volume #20 Fri, 22 Dec 00 21:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: mouse didn't work (Craig Kelley)
Re: kernel questions (Richard Chase)
Re: Modem detected on ttyS1but how do I connect in Mandrake 7.2? (s)
Re: Hard Disk and little faces! ("Jerry Segers, Jr.")
Re: Gradual Time Sync (Bill Unruh)
Re: cpio backups (Juha Laiho)
Re: Modemconfig (Zerr)
Re: cpio backups (Juergen Heinzl)
recompiled kernel doesn't boot (Anna Luigi)
Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot (Colin Watson)
help accessing the net (alpal)
Re: Sun Solaris (Mark Post)
Re: Does kernel 2.2.18 need to be patched for raid??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Modem detected on ttyS1but how do I connect in Mandrake 7.2? ("Garry Knight")
Re: help accessing the net (Robert Kiesling)
Settting Up Printer on Red Hat 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: qmail relay (David)
Re: help accessing the net (Srihari Vijayaraghavan)
New Kernal Upgrade ("pcrum")
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mouse didn't work
Date: 22 Dec 2000 14:13:26 -0700
"Peter Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i'm installing the Red Hat Linux 7
> (I'm new to Linux - i've install Red Hat Linux 5.2 and 6 once before, but
> just using a few day.
> That time just for have a look on the new system, and my mouse can be
> detected and use.
> But this time i really ready to use it, but my mouse can't functioning.)
>
> when starting the setup process, i saw one of the many many message, one of
> it is "probing for mouse", then
> is "3 button mouse PS/2 found".
> But i feel weird with this because my mouse is serial mouse.
>
> then, during the graphical installation process, my mouse cursur can't move
> when i move my mouse,
> (the mouse is not functioning).
> i just continue the installation process by press tab and enter.
> In the installation process, i select the serial mouse and COM 2, because in
> MS Windows, that's my setting.
>
> after the installation, i reboot my PC, then until the graphical login, i
> login.
> But i still can't use my mouse.
>
> did anyone can tell me what's the problem ?
> what should i do to solve this problem ?
Make sure that /dev/mouse points to the proper port. COM2 under
windws corresponds to /dev/ttyS1 under Linux (assuming it's not the
psaux PS/2 device):
ln -sf /dev/ttyS1 /dev/mouse
RedHat also allows you to run `setup` as the root user, to use a menu
to do all this (which is what I'd reccomend).
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Richard Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel questions
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.kernel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:41:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a couple of questions.
>
> What is a backport?
>
> What patch goes with what kernel? i.e. Does patch-2.2.18 update kernel
> 2.2.17 or 2.2.18?
>
> best regards,
> charles
Patch 2.2.18 patches 2.2.17 to make it 2.2.18.
Good luck,
Rich
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From: s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem detected on ttyS1but how do I connect in Mandrake 7.2?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:11:28 +0000
Hi Pete,
Did you set the serial port yet? You need to open a terminal, su to root, and
type: setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port <your port number here> irq <your
irq number here> spd_hi
If that fixes it. Then insert that line in a start up script like
/etc/rc.d/rc.local .
There are different methods of finding your port and irq numbers depending on
what kind of modem it is. If you don't know how to find them, write back with
what kind of modem you have: internal/external, isa/pci, etc, and someone or
maybe I can help you track down that required info.
-s
Peter S. wrote:
> This is most embarrasing to ask how to connect to the Internet. I have
> version 7.2 and the modem is detected properly, proof of which is the output
> of wvdialconfig. Now, there is of course DrakConf and Network and Internet
> Config. When I choose "Configure network connection" and fill in the ISP
> info I get an offer "Do you wish to connect the Internet?" I say yes,
> whereupon a remarkably inappropriate meassage comes back telling me that "
> You don't appear to be connected to the Internet" and that I should
> reconfigure my modem connections. Needless to say that all my previously
> entered config data disappeared. Is this a catch 22? I'm offered connection
> but then before I get it I don't appear to be connected.
> How is it that the thousands of people with Mandrake 7.2 do not report this
> problem?
> Is there no means to access the previously entered modem config in KDE and
> to click on an icon like (Kppp was in version 7.1) to connect?
>
> Any help would be thankfully appreciated,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
--
Registered Linux user: #197855
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From: "Jerry Segers, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard Disk and little faces!
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:14:23 -0500
In article <91tqfe$qc0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ciccio"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Your problem is one of:
The partition you are trying to mount doesn't exist
The partition you are trying to mount doesn't have a filesystem
You don't have the driver for the filesystem loaded (or there isn't one)
The hardware's drivers are not loaded (or don't exist)
try this at a bash prompt as root:
mount -t auto /dev/<partition> /<mount point>
and post the results
> I have already write about my hard disk problem, bat the situation is
> become very serius! When i try to mount the hard disk, appear a windows
> with a strange message and little faces... i think isn't a good thing!!!
> I have followed the instruction in Config-how-to, and write on the file
> "fstab", but... nothing! Is it change anything with the new Kernel
> 2.4.0-test11 ?
>
> Thanks (sorry for my English) Simone Maccanti
>
> mcsim(at)tiscalinet.it
I would like to say, your english is perfectly useable and
conveys your meaning well. Also, most newsgroup scanners that result in
spam scan the headers, not the bodies and your e-mail address is
formatted useably in the header.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Gradual Time Sync
Date: 22 Dec 2000 23:03:57 GMT
In <91s42d$drm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
]Hi !
]How would I know that the time diff comes under the category "big jump" or
]"small jump". Syr for example, Server A is 1 day behind and Server B is 5 day
]ahead of the correct time, and I use ntpd, how much time would they take to
]come into sync and how "big/small" would be the jumps...
ntp actually slows down or speeds up the clock by some small amount. If
the clocks are out by days, it could take weeks to come into sync. YOu
are far far better of making sure that when they boot up they are approx
in sync. Us chrony, and use the chrony -r -s command on bootup to sync
to the hardware clock, taking into account how much that clock is out by
and how much time it looses or gains per second.
]Ram
]> >
]> >I would like to synchronuze time between servers which are already
]> >lagging behind...and I want them to be done gradually. If I am going
]> >install ntpd and use it during startup, that would mean a sudden change
]> >in time of the system , which I fear would create problems for my
]> >version controlling system. Also, if the current time on the server is
]> >in future and if I do a sync, and if it changed my ver system, I would
]> >run into problems. is there any solution for sycing the time gradually
]> >( say, 2 secs increase per hr. ) so that the changes are gradual ?
]>
]> My understanding is that xntpd never makes big adjustments and that
]> is partly the reason for ntpdate in many of the init scripts. The
No. ntpdate DOES make jumps It simply brings your time into the same
time as teh servers it queries.
Do not use ntpdate if you want gradual change. Use the ntp daemon ntpd
(or rather I like the chronyd better as it can use the hardware clock to
keep your machine in sync even when not connected to the net by
measuring both how far off from true time the hardware clock is and how
much faster or slower than real time it runs.)
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From: Juha Laiho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cpio backups
Date: 22 Dec 2000 19:31:41 +0200
"Graeme Muirhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>When backing up Red Hat Linux (different releases) using find piped to cpio
>I get "truncating inode number" messages and can't read back the tape.
>From cpio manual page:
cpio supports the following archive formats: binary, old
ASCII, new ASCII, crc, HPUX binary, HPUX old ASCII, old
tar, and POSIX.1 tar. The binary format is obsolete
because it encodes information about the files in a way
that is not portable between different machine architec�
tures. The old ASCII format is portable between different
machine architectures, but should not be used on file sys�
tems with more than 65536 i-nodes. The new ASCII format
is portable between different machine architectures and
can be used on any size file system, but is not supported
by all versions of cpio; currently, it is only supported
by GNU and Unix System V R4. The crc format is like the
new ASCII format, but also contains a checksum for each
file which cpio calculates when creating an archive and
verifies when the file is extracted from the archive. The
HPUX formats are provided for compatibility with HPUX's
cpio which stores device files differently.
Change to using the "new" format to overcome problems with large
inode numbers. Btw, you're hopefully using the -print0 flag for
find and correspondingly the -0 flag for cpio already.
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From: Zerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modemconfig
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:22:17 GMT
use kppp that is the easy way. Also make sure the modem is not jumpered to
plug n play but hard jumpered to irq3. Look in the manual that came with
the modem and it will have the jumper settings on thier.
Rutger wrote:
> Is there someone out there who setup a Supraexpress 56i internal modem
> under linux?
>
> Please tell me how!
>
> Rutger
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: cpio backups
Date: 22 Dec 2000 23:51:26 GMT
In article <92035t$epf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Juha Laiho wrote:
>"Graeme Muirhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>When backing up Red Hat Linux (different releases) using find piped to cpio
>>I get "truncating inode number" messages and can't read back the tape.
[-]
Unrelated but don't use the old ASCII format as it creates
unreadable archives if your cpio hasn't been patched. If you
need to exchange cpio archives you might be out of luck so, yes.
>From cpio manual page:
> cpio supports the following archive formats: binary, old
> ASCII, new ASCII, crc, HPUX binary, HPUX old ASCII, old
> tar, and POSIX.1 tar. The binary format is obsolete
> because it encodes information about the files in a way
> that is not portable between different machine architec�
> tures. The old ASCII format is portable between different
> machine architectures, but should not be used on file sys�
> tems with more than 65536 i-nodes. The new ASCII format
> is portable between different machine architectures and
> can be used on any size file system, but is not supported
> by all versions of cpio; currently, it is only supported
> by GNU and Unix System V R4. The crc format is like the
> new ASCII format, but also contains a checksum for each
> file which cpio calculates when creating an archive and
> verifies when the file is extracted from the archive. The
> HPUX formats are provided for compatibility with HPUX's
> cpio which stores device files differently.
>
>Change to using the "new" format to overcome problems with large
>inode numbers. Btw, you're hopefully using the -print0 flag for
>find and correspondingly the -0 flag for cpio already.
[-]
What reason should he use -print0 for though, \n in file names
aside 8-/
Ta',
Juergen
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From: Anna Luigi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: recompiled kernel doesn't boot
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:04:23 GMT
Hi:
I've a Compaq Presario 1900 running Suse6.4 linux. I installed
everything on the CD's and it runs fine, except for some minor
things. One thing I'm trying to get working now is APM. Well,
I decided to recompile the kernel and see if that would work.
When recompiling the kernel, the _only_ thing I changed in the
compile options (make menuconfig) was selection of APM.
Compilation of the new kernel proceeded smoothly and the new
image was slightly larger than the old one, which seemed
reassuring. So I copied the new image to the location where
lilo defaults to, and rebooted . . . After rebooting to the
new image, I see the messages:
Uncompresing Linux ...
ran out of input data
system halted
Any thoughts on the subject? I'm pretty sure I followed all of
the directions for compiling the kernel. What could have gone
wrong?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot
Date: 23 Dec 2000 00:28:32 GMT
Anna Luigi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When recompiling the kernel, the _only_ thing I changed in the
>compile options (make menuconfig) was selection of APM.
>Compilation of the new kernel proceeded smoothly and the new
>image was slightly larger than the old one, which seemed
>reassuring. So I copied the new image to the location where
>lilo defaults to, and rebooted . . . After rebooting to the
>new image, I see the messages:
>
>Uncompresing Linux ...
>ran out of input data
Did you forget to run '/sbin/lilo -v' as root after copying the new
kernel image over the old one? You'll need to do that or it will fail to
boot.
HTH,
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"And after the fire there came a still small voice ..."
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From: alpal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help accessing the net
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:43:10 +1100
Hi there,
I am a fairly new "newbie" but with some disaterous experience,
I bought a copy of the APC Redhat 7.0 LINUX pocketbook and went through
the install fairly well some glitchs occured and eventually I got it up
and running I have a stand alone machine (Cel 450 64mb ram tnt2 16mb
vid, 2x 20gb h/d 1 cd 1cdrw usb camera epson printer Dell monitor)
The book goes into how to set up PPP great thats fine my 33.6k modem
dials up and works fine but (and here the books faqs etc fall down)
netscape under preferences - advanced - proxies wont accept my local ISP
proxy setting..
I feel I am (obviously) missing a step not outlined where / how does a
person logged into their own account not as root get access to the
outside world .....????
If anyone asked me what I wanted for christmas it would be a windows
free christmas( i still have to use it to surf) and all I want is my
linux to access the net all the rest I can sruggle with but it would be
really good to not have to reboot just to send an email visit a
newsgroup or just surf for the hell of it :))
Merry Christmas to you all out there,
AlpaL <!_!>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:59:45 GMT
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 20:15:02 +1300, "Avery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a linux version out of the box that is compatible with the Sun
>Solaris system I just scored?
Slackware just announced an intial (stripped down) SPARC version this week.
I run Slackware on all my systems, so I'm biased.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does kernel 2.2.18 need to be patched for raid???
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:54:33 GMT
> (or perhaps it's just time to go with the flow and jump to 2.4?)
for what it's worth, the mandrake 7.2 "expert" install that lets you ask
for a 2.4.0pre kernel seems to work fine, with raid of all forms working
across the four channels of my vp6.
at this point i'm more than a little curious about ide electricals and
the linux driver (are you listening, andre?).
if one adopts the following ground rules:
1) use identically pre-partitioned disks
2) use "electrically safe" hot swap chassis
3) make completely sure that the OS is completely disinterested in a
given drive (eg raidsetfaulty) before turning the drive's power/lock key
what can be expected from attempting a hot swap stunt? i really doubt if
sparks/smoke/burnouts would happen (common ground, no power across the
cable, passive terminations) but would linux just ignore a newly powered
ide disk?
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Modem detected on ttyS1but how do I connect in Mandrake 7.2?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 01:28:58 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <L5P06.16325$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Peter S."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is most embarrasing to ask how to connect to the Internet. I have
> version 7.2 and the modem is detected properly, [...]
> How is it that the thousands of people with
> Mandrake 7.2 do not report this problem? Is there no means to access
> the previously entered modem config in KDE and to click on an icon
> like (Kppp was in version 7.1) to connect?
When I installed 7.2 all I did was run kppp and enter my ISP's details.
It connected first time and has done so every time since. It's the
simplest way to configure a connection.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: help accessing the net
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 01:32:55 GMT
alpal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> proxy setting..
>
> I feel I am (obviously) missing a step not outlined where / how does a
> person logged into their own account not as root get access to the
> outside world .....????
You would set the browser not to use a proxy, if your ISP's routing
scheme is just like everyone else's. If it isn't, then they will
likely have assigned a unique port number and address, and you'll have
to ask them what they are. You should be logged in as a normal
(non-root) user for Web surfing, btw.
--
Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Web Page : http://www.mainmatter.com/kiesling
Linux FAQ:
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html http://www.mainmatter.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Settting Up Printer on Red Hat 6.2
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 01:29:39 GMT
I've installed Red Hat 6.2 on my computer. In the past I was able to
run a utility that helps in the configuration of a printer. I do most
of my stuff via telnet so printtool on an X GUI interface is a little
out of the way for me.
A sample view of what I'm talking about is here
http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.0-Manual/install-
guide/manual/img061.gif
TIA
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: qmail relay
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 01:44:38 GMT
RC Walker wrote:
>
> I need to set up a linux server. The server is acting as a firewall,
> also masquerading the clients behind it. I need to configure qmail to
> all these clients to send messages to the outside world. With
> 'firewall.server.com' as the out going SMTP server, I get an error
> message stating that, 'the host (whatever account I am sending to), is
> not found in rcpthosts'. Any hints on how to fix this?
>
> Sorry so long,
> RCW
Edit /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and add the host name of the systems
you want to relay mail for.
localhost
hostname1.domain.com
hostname2.domain.org
Then /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail restart
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Completed more W/U's than 98.912% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Srihari Vijayaraghavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help accessing the net
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:54:12 +1100
alpal wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I am a fairly new "newbie" but with some disaterous experience,
>
> I bought a copy of the APC Redhat 7.0 LINUX pocketbook and went through
>
> the install fairly well some glitchs occured and eventually I got it up
> and running I have a stand alone machine (Cel 450 64mb ram tnt2 16mb
> vid, 2x 20gb h/d 1 cd 1cdrw usb camera epson printer Dell monitor)
> The book goes into how to set up PPP great thats fine my 33.6k modem
> dials up and works fine but (and here the books faqs etc fall down)
> netscape under preferences - advanced - proxies wont accept my local ISP
>
> proxy setting..
>
> I feel I am (obviously) missing a step not outlined where / how does a
> person logged into their own account not as root get access to the
> outside world .....????
>
> If anyone asked me what I wanted for christmas it would be a windows
> free christmas( i still have to use it to surf) and all I want is my
> linux to access the net all the rest I can sruggle with but it would be
> really good to not have to reboot just to send an email visit a
> newsgroup or just surf for the hell of it :))
>
> Merry Christmas to you all out there,
>
> AlpaL <!_!>
>
Hello Alpal,
Are you able to see both OK and CANCEL button under Netscape's Preference's
- Proxies? I notice it may not be visible while using 640x480 resolution.
If the above mentioned is your case, try the following:
1. Open any program under X, maximise the window, and then you can find out
the current resolution information using "xwininfo" command.
2. Try to increase the resolution to atleast 800x600, then all the buttons
of Netscape preferences should be visible.
If this is the case, and you are unable to enter your prefernces-proxies
setting by any other method, please reply to me, we can try to modify the
preferences by hand. (It is stored in .netscape/preferences.js file under
your home directory)
--
Thank you,
Hari.
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From: "pcrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Kernal Upgrade
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:00:34 -0500
Two Questions I like to ask You guys.
1) Does anybody have a problem booting the newest kernal 2.4. Because I
have tried that and three different kernals and they don't boot.
2) See if I am doing anything wrong here.
Ok, first off I wish to thank any of you who decide to help me. Here's my
problem. I installed RedHat 6.2 on my computer. O.k. everything is great
no prob's. Them I decided it's time for a kernal upgrade. I download the
latest upgrade. I did everything in this order:
1) Unpacked to /usr/src
2) made the xconfig (all good from there)
3) made all the dependencies
4) clean everything up
5) made the bzimage
Everything seems to be looking up.
6) copy the bzimage file found in the arch/i386/ to boot (which is where
lilo says the original vmlinuz is at.
7) edited the lilo file to make sure old one is still bootable if a problem
exists.
8) made the new one a bootable kernal in the lilo.conf.
9) ran lilo (everything seems good)
>From there I thought ok lets see how she works, I rebooted and tested the
new kernal the following things happends.
"uncompressing the kernal...Ok"
"Booting the Kernal"
>From there I hang forever. I am hoping someone out there knows whats going
on and can help me.
Thank You.
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