Linux-Setup Digest #274, Volume #21              Mon, 21 May 01 07:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  sysklogd questions ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: What is wrong with LILO??? ("Eric")
  initrd problems! (RH 7.0 on Dell PowerEdge 2450, aacraid) (Dutchman)
  Lost Interupt (RiotStar)
  Network (module?) problems ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: error on compiling qt-2.3.0 (Joerg Stadermann)
  Re: can't set up linux client with dsl router (dhcp) ("Jeramy B Smith")
  What filesystems are there? ("Peet Grobler")
  Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed? (Dale L)
  Re: using pan: watches and downloads ("Duane Healing")
  Re: What filesystems are there? (Dale L)
  Re: Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed? ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed? (Julian T. J. Midgley)
  Re: annoying LILO graphic (Noble Pepper)
  Shared Memory PHP (root@localho$t)

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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: sysklogd questions
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:21:06 +0200

Hi.

I want to use an additional computer for a loghost. How do I go about doing
that?

E.g, do I simply put "*.* @loghost" in /etc/syslog.conf for the client
machine? What do I do on the server to enable it to log from remote hosts?
Do I need to keep logs on the machine itself (client) as well as server? Or
is there some sort of error checking?

Regards,
Peet



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is wrong with LILO???
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:22:22 +0200

> >  I did not create a boot partition b/c I
> > kept getting a "No free primary" error message.
>
> AFAIK, this is a PC thing - all boot partitions must be "primary" (as

Well... sort of.
The PC BIOS just executes the MBR bootcode.
If there's a DOS bootloader present, you are right.
LILO really doesn't care, nor do several other bootloaders.

> opposed to "extended") partitions and there is a limit to how many a

I suppose you mean logical, as an extended partition is also a primary.

> system can have (4, I think).

correct.

> >However, I am still
> > forced to boot LILO from a floppy, otherwise, Windows will boot
> > automatically.
>
> Because the Windoze loader is still in your Master Boot Record (MBR) on
> the boot disk.

Yep.

> >This time however, I have the lilo.conf file.  Yet,
> > whenever I try to run LILO to install it ("/sbin/lilo") I recieve the
> > following error.
> >
> > "Warning: device 0x0303 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
> >  Fatal: sector 52769422 too large for linear mode (try 'lba32' instead)"
> >
> > And that all means what?

it means that hda3 (the boot=/dev/hda3 line) cannot be accessed by the BIOS

> LILO has to use services provided by your system BIOS to load the Linux
> kernel.  These services date back to the early PC and were not designed
> to deal with large disks (i.e. ones with more than 1024 cylinders).

correct.

>  LBA
> (Logical Block Addressing) is a way of fooling the BIOS into seeing
> larger disks by lying about the number of heads and cylinders a disk
> has.

It has nothing to do with lying. It's just another way of addressing.
CHS addressing is a way of lying though. You don't really expect
that there are 128 platters in your HDD, when your HDD says it has
256 heads?

> Usually the mode for the disk (linear, LBA, etc.) is controlled in
> the BIOS on the system, along with the other parameters for your hard
> disk(s) - messing with this can be a bad idea if you don't know what you
> are doing.  IIRC, changing the disk mode will force you to repartition
> and reformat the disk you changed (and thus destroy any data on the
> disk)...

It can have a strange effect indeed.

> >I have the idea to just start over and try
> > creating my root, boot, and swap partitions using fdisk, but I'm not
sure
> > if that would help any.  Please help me out.  Thanks.
>
> This probably won't help unless you can arrange to put the partition
> with the kernel (/boot) on it below the 1024 cylinder limit or change
> the disk mode.

Just put lilo in the MBR, and change the "linear" keyword in lilo.conf by
"lba32".  That should solve the problems.

Eric



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From: Dutchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: initrd problems! (RH 7.0 on Dell PowerEdge 2450, aacraid)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:25:26 GMT

Hi everyone,

Allthough I am fairly new to linux I have been asked to install a brand
new Dell PowerEdge 2450 with the Redhat Linux 7.0 operating system. A
standard install with kernel 2.2.16-22 seems to work fine, but I keep
running into problems creating a custom 2.2.19 kernel for the system,
mainly caused by the Dell Percraid 3/Si raid controller (adabtec OEM
chip) After a lenghty period of tryall and error (and searching for
answers) I came across the http://domsch.com/linux/ page wich finally
contained some verry usefull info on linux, the perc/3si raid controller

and dell poweredge systems.

The system is a Dell PowerEdge 2450 with a standard config, an extra
Intel pro 100/S, the Perc 3/Si RAID controller enabled, two SCSI disks
(mirrored) with a 4 GB raid container and a 13 GB container. There is a
minimum RH 7 install that seems to be running allright. There is an
aic7xxx controller onboard, but it is not in use for now

I have a kernel 2.2.19 source package, patched with the
linux-2.2.19-aacraid-1.0.7+PERCID patch. When I build the aacraid and
the aic7xxx support into the kernel the system hangs at boot. The
aic7xxx controller gets detected and initialised OK, but there's a
kernel Oops when the aacraid controller loads.

==============
aacraid raid driver version, May 10 2001
percraid device detected
OsAllocMemory: FAILED

AfaPortAllocateAndMapFibSpace: OsAllocMemory failed
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 07e0c128 (or
other address)
current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0002
CPU: 1
EIP: 0010:[<c01cc833>]
EFLAGS: 00010246
==============

Ok, so building it into the kernel doesn't seem to work at all. The next

thing I tried was building an initrd image and the two drivers compiled
as modules. The kernel build seems to go fine, and /sbin/mkinitrd
/boot/initrd-2.2.19.img 2.2.19 actually produces an initrd. I then
configure lilo to use the image for the 2.2.19 kernel. When I reboot now

the system loads both the aic7xxx and the aacraid drivers but doesn't
detect any adapters at all! Naturally  without the raid adapter my discs

don't get mounted and the boot hangs jet again. I have been trying to
get the system running under the new kernel now and I'm getting pretty
desperate. If anybody knows anything about what I might be doing wrong
or what I must be forgetting, or has ANY info that might be usefull,
please post a reply to this msg in the group or email me.

Regards,

Egbert de Graaf
The Netherlands
Europe




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From: RiotStar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lost Interupt
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:39:19 +0100

Hi, 

I'm totally new to Linux and am having a few probs.

My system is 
Athlon 1.2, 
KT7A, 
2x 10gb Maxtor Drives (both on IDE1)
32x LG CD-ROM and a 4Gb Seagate drive (both on IDE2)

I have one of the 10gb Maxtor drives set as primary master and divided into
2 partitions of equal size.  I formatted the first of these partitions as
NTFS and installed Win2k no probs.  On the second partition I formatted it
as a Linux partition using the partition thing during Mandrake 8 install.
All was going ok until I tried to boot linux.  When I tried it using just
the Linux option from LiLo it just hung at the welcome screen.  So I tried
again using the other linux option and this time I saw all the error
messages! When it starts up, it first of all comes up with something about
probing the hard drives and something about failed IRQs.  Then it says it's
checking the partition on hda and then it comes up with a "Lost Interupt"
error over and over and over again :(

Can anyone shed any light on this for me or how to go about solving it? I
really want to learn to use Linux but all this is putting me off the idea
very quickly :/

TIA 

RiotStar


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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Network (module?) problems
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:38:30 +0200

Hi.

If I compile my kernel with modular support for my network card, it works,
once I say of-course:
modprobe ne io=0x300

Now, I've compiled the network support built-in. It doesn't find eth0.
Probably because it needs the "io=0x300" option. Is there a way for me to
get it working, without re-compiling it as a module? The machine uses
networking ALL the time, so a module is not required. I'd like to get this
compiled into the kernel.

Is this at all possible?




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From: Joerg Stadermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: error on compiling qt-2.3.0
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:48:06 +0200

On Sunday 20 May 2001 20:19 Goophy wrote:

> Hi there
> I've a problem compiling the qt-2.3.0 library...
> this is (a part of) the error output:
> 
> make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools/designer/uic'
> g++ -L/usr/local/qt/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/qt/lib   -o
> /usr/local/qt/bin/uic uic.o ../shared/widgetdatabase.o
> ../shared/domtool.o
> ../integration/kdevelop/kdewidgets.o   -lqutil -L../lib -lqt
> /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Init_FreeType'
> /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Load_Glyph'
> /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Done_Face'
<snip>
> reference to `XRenderCompositeString32'
> /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderAddGlyphs'
> /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to
> `XRenderChangePicture' /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference
> to `XRenderFindFormat' /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference
> to `FT_New_Face' /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to
> `XRenderCreatePicture' /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference
> to `XRenderFreeGlyphSet' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[6]: *** [/usr/local/qt/bin/uic] Error 1
> 
> 
What os do you have?
Which X are you using?

The problem seems to be the render extension. Try ./configure -no-xft

HTH,

Joerg

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From: "Jeramy B Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: can't set up linux client with dsl router (dhcp)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:00:05 GMT

The pump rpm in the original LinuxPPC 2000 was very broken for many new
commodity routers (like my LinkSys). Upgrade pump to a newer version (from
ydl or q4) and try doing a pump -i eth0 and see if magic happens.

-jeramy b smith

"Andrew McClain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:POZN6.27$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hey all,
>
> I realize this is a common question...but I've combed the net to figure
this
> out.
>
> I'm trying to configure my LinuxPPC 2000 box (Powermac 6500/300) to
connect
> to my Efficient Speedstream 5861 DSL router using DHCP (Farallon
ethernet).
> Right now i have a win98 box and an imac connected to the router, they
both
> work well.
>
> Because of the router, i don't have to worry about the normal dsl pppoe
> stuff.
>
> Problem is, when i try to bring eth0 up, it attempts to "determine IP
> information" from the router...which times out.
>
> My network setting, divined from the other computers and the router BIOS:
> Router addr: 192.168.254.254
> Nameserver addr: 192.168.254.254
> Gateway addr: 192.168.254.254
>
> I'm pretty sure my ethernet card works...i can set it up to 10.0.0.1 and
> ping that address. Physically I know it works because i was using it in
the
> pc prior. Linux detects the card when it boots.
>
> My netcfg settings:
>     domain: ameritech.net
>     nameserver: 192.168.254.254
>     hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost
>     interface: eth0 <noip> dhcp
>     routing
>         default gateway 192.168.254.254
>         default gateway device 192.168.254.254 <-- what's the difference?
>
> route settings:
>     Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref
Use
> Iface
>     127.0.0.0       *             255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0
lo
>
> i can't add the default route (i think) because eth0 isn't up...
>     route add default gw 194.168.254.254
> gives me: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
>
> i've tried changing network cables, different nics. i've tried using pump
> and dhcpcd (1.3.18). i've even tried configuring the router for bootp and
> using that.
>
> nothing. i never get an ip assigned.
>
> relevent things from logs:
>
> from messages (after i try dhcpcd):
> May 20 16:29:11 localhost kernel: eth0: 21143 10baseT link beat good.
> May 20 16:30:10 localhost dhcpcd[550]: timed out waiting for a valid DHCP
> server response
>
> from dmesg:
> ...
> PPP line discipline registered.
>   The PCI BIOS has not enabled the device at 0/112!  Updating PCI command
> 0004->0005.
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> tulip.c:v0.91g-ppc 7/16/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> eth0: Digital DC21041 Tulip rev 17 at 0x400, 00:00:C5:46:0C:C9, IRQ 25.
> eth0: 21041 Media table, default media 0800 (Autosense).
> eth0:  21041 media #0, 10baseT.
> eth0:  21041 media #1, 10base2.
> eth0:  21041 media #4, 10baseT-FD.
> ...
>
> doesn't really seem to be a problem, though...
>
> Any suggestions? Any diagnostics i can run on my ethernet card? Anything?
>
> thanks in advance.
> andrew
>
>
>
>



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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: What filesystems are there?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:21:14 +0200

Does anyone have a link, etc to point me into a direction where I can find
the pro's and con's of the different filesystems in Linux? I've been using
ext2 since I started, and I've heard of reiserfs, but don't know anything
about it. I will be re-partitioning my one system soon, and I'd like to find
out if there are any advantages that might persuade me to use different
filesystems.

Regards,
Peet



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale L)
Subject: Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:24:33 GMT

Short info:
========
"root fs not found" error messages are coming up when kernel 2.4.4
tries to load. I'm guessing it may be because I'm using loadlin to
load it. (Also, using WinLinux with USMDOS.)

By the way, is there a way to pause the screen while booting? I'm sure
I'm missing good information.

More than you want to know:
=======================
What I'm really trying to do is get the i810 graphics to work in a
mode other than just VGA16. I started with kernel 2.2.13 with XFree86
3.5. Next I went to kernel 2.2.17 and XFree 3.6. Still nothing better
than VGA16. So I figured, what the heck, I used to be a programmer...
Got the 2.4.4 kernel stuff and built the kernel. Shucks (actually,
thinking other words) at least I got the kernel to build.

Sooooo, now I have 2.4.4  booting from a floppy and it obviously
recognizes the i810 agp. But I see several occasions where something
tries to load and "root fs not found" comes up. The load finally
chokes with something like "can't find INIT" which makes perfect sense
if the root is not found.

Obviously I'm no Linux ace so humor me. Thanks in advance for any
help.

DLL

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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using pan: watches and downloads
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:21:03 GMT

Not a bad idea. You really should contribute this back to the pan
developers since pan is under heavy development. Go to
http://pan.rebelbase.com for more info. I've always just used "watch" as
a tag to spot threads I'm interested in more easily, but having them
automatically get dl'ed when updating is a good idea.

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Felmon John Davis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> Greets!
> Trying to get friendly with Pan as a newsreader but I confused.  I can
> set some threads to being 'watched' but it doesn't seem like their
> 'bodies' are being downloaded.
> What's the point of 'watch' if it doesn't fetch the 'watched' articles? 
> More importantly, how can I configure Pan so that it will suck in
> threads I've marked without my having to do it manually?  The 'manual'
> doesn't yet seem to be on-line.  Thanks!
> F.
> --------------------------------------------------------
>      Felmon John Davis
>      Union College /  Schenectady, NY
>      os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
> --------------------------------------------------------

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale L)
Subject: Re: What filesystems are there?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:31:45 GMT

Have you checked the filesystems documents at something like
/usr/src/linux/documents/filesystems on your system yet? There are
text files there that might give you some of the info you want.

Now, I'm sure you know more than me but I'll risk it and throw this in
just in case you didn't know:

     cat /proc/filesystems

will tell you all the file systems your kernel/system currently is
using or can use.

Hope this helps.

DLL

On Mon, 21 May 2001 12:21:14 +0200, "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at
absa.co.za> wrote:

>Does anyone have a link, etc to point me into a direction where I can find
>the pro's and con's of the different filesystems in Linux? I've been using
>ext2 since I started, and I've heard of reiserfs, but don't know anything
>about it. I will be re-partitioning my one system soon, and I'd like to find
>out if there are any advantages that might persuade me to use different
>filesystems.
>
>Regards,
>Peet
>
>


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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:51:34 +0200

"root fs not found" means either you've removed the root disk (which I
doubt), or you need to re-compile your kernel again.

You need to compile support for your root filesystem into the kernel. E.g,
if your root fs is ext2, select [*] for ext2 support. Similar to whatever
you use.

Mandrake (RedHat too, I think) has a log file /var/log/dmesg that contains
all the startup messages. But it should be in the file your kernel log to as
well. Try /var/log/messages or kern.log or something similar. Do a grep for
kernel.
E.g:

cat /var/log/messages | grep "kernel"

FWIW,
Peet
Dale L wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Short info:
>========
>"root fs not found" error messages are coming up when kernel 2.4.4
>tries to load. I'm guessing it may be because I'm using loadlin to
>load it. (Also, using WinLinux with USMDOS.)
>
>By the way, is there a way to pause the screen while booting? I'm sure
>I'm missing good information.
>
>More than you want to know:
>=======================
>What I'm really trying to do is get the i810 graphics to work in a
>mode other than just VGA16. I started with kernel 2.2.13 with XFree86
>3.5. Next I went to kernel 2.2.17 and XFree 3.6. Still nothing better
>than VGA16. So I figured, what the heck, I used to be a programmer...
>Got the 2.4.4 kernel stuff and built the kernel. Shucks (actually,
>thinking other words) at least I got the kernel to build.
>
>Sooooo, now I have 2.4.4  booting from a floppy and it obviously
>recognizes the i810 agp. But I see several occasions where something
>tries to load and "root fs not found" comes up. The load finally
>chokes with something like "can't find INIT" which makes perfect sense
>if the root is not found.
>
>Obviously I'm no Linux ace so humor me. Thanks in advance for any
>help.
>
>DLL



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Subject: Re: Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:53:17 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dale L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Short info:
>========
>"root fs not found" error messages are coming up when kernel 2.4.4
>tries to load. I'm guessing it may be because I'm using loadlin to
>load it. (Also, using WinLinux with USMDOS.)

Something worth checking (it caught me out the first time I compiled
the 2.4.x series kernels), is that you have enabled IDE support.  I
used a .config file from a 2.2.x series kernel, ran make xconfig and
modified a few minor items, then compiled.  The kernel wouldn't boot,
because they introduced a new .config parameter in 2.4 which enables
or disables IDE support altogether.  Since it was present in the 2.2
config I started from, it defaulted to 'off', with predictables results.

All the best,

Julian

-- 
Julian T. J. Midgley                    http://www.xenoclast.org
Cambridge, England.                       PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F

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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: annoying LILO graphic
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 05:59:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave Uhring wrote:

> Noble Pepper wrote:
> 
>> Jeff Shipman wrote:
>> 
>>> Dave Uhring wrote:
>>>> I'm running RedHat-7.1 on both of the workstations here and don't
>>>> have that
>>>> curses (?) based menu come up.  When I kill /boot/messages, all that
>>>> comes
>>>> up is "LILO boot:"  Can't help you further, I'm afraid.  Actually, I
>>>> miss
>>>> having that graphic show up like I had when I was running Slackware.
>>>> Since I multi-boot 4-6 OS's, using the arrow keys to select my OS
>>>> was convenient.
>>> 
>>> Ok, maybe I'll just try downloading the latest version of
>>> LILO and installing it. Thanks, anyway!
>>>  
>>> Jeff "Shippy" Shipman     E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Computer Science Major    ICQ: 1786493
>>> New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
>>> Homepage: http://www.nmt.edu/~shippy
>>> 
>> Did my earlier post not get through?
>> 
>> On lilo 21.6 ( the latest as of a couple of months ago ) -
>> 
>> man lilo.conf and search for menu.
>> 
>> this behavior is plainly explained there and in my post.
>> 
> 
> Sure enough, it's not on this thread.  Did you use the same subject??
> 
> 
Yep, must be your NNTP server or my reader (KNode). Shows up fine here.

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From: root@localho$t <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shared Memory PHP
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:02:23 GMT


Hi,

I can't use php scripts using shared memory fonctions under apache+php4

Someone told me I have to recompile php or/and apache instead of using RPMS

Any one has an idea of what I could do if I don't want to recompile ?

Thx.


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