Linux-Setup Digest #300, Volume #20 Thu, 28 Dec 00 22:13:06 EST
Contents:
SuSE 7.0 liveeval ("Guennadi V. Liakhovetski")
newbie:: unix machine as internet gateway ("renven")
Re: Multiple simultaeneous PPP connections (Bill Unruh)
Re: Softmodem/pppd problem (Bill Unruh)
Re: printing from netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Need Help with glib-1.2.8 install ("Ed Doyle")
Re: removing mouse causes Linux to crash/hang. kernel 2.4 ("Ralph A Freeman")
Re: installing RH7 in win98/win2000 dual boot box ("Eriz Mendz")
Mounting problems ("Roy Troxel")
Re: A Practical Guide to Linux - Mark Sobell (emilian)
Re: SCSI Zip drive in RH 6.2 $@#!? (John Thomas)
qmail ("pcrum")
major problem with suse 6.3 (Glitch)
Re: 486, Linux and X-windows (Bob Martin)
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From: "Guennadi V. Liakhovetski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE 7.0 liveeval
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:53:46 +0000
Hi
I picked up a SuSE 7.0 LiveEval CD from a book store and am trying to use
it to upgrade my SuSE 6.3... My computer is too old - can't boot from CD.
And failing. No info on the package nor on the CD. Maximum success I was
able to achieve - is to boot with a boot disk with the kernel from the CD
and ro root=/dev/hdc S options (no other runlevel worked), login as root,
mount a floppy as a /tmp / /var/log directory (depending on whether trying
to run yast or yast2) and start yast / yast2. This is it. Can't get either
of them to do anything with my existing installation and the CD - update
or whatever. Anybody any ideas?
Thanks
Guennadi
___
Dr. Guennadi V. Liakhovetski
Department of Applied Mathematics
University of Sheffield, U.K.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "renven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie:: unix machine as internet gateway
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:02:03 +0100
Hello,
Eventually I have a working machine with Linux (RedHat 5.2 distribution,
because a friend of my gave it to me on cd-rom). It's a 486 Compaq 66m, no
cd-rom (I used ftp-installation) 12mb memory and a 212 Mb linux partition
(the other part is for swap and some vague compaq boot stuff).
I installed two ethernet cards. Standard, the eth0 is working. The eth1 is
working after using ifconfig.
But what are the next steps to get the thing working as a gateway?
I've read HOW-TO's. When I'm installing the suggested pptp with make.. there
are some warnings...
Even the make menuconfig in the /linux dir doesn''t work... "No rule to make
target"....
I don't get it (yet).
Any suggestions?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Multiple simultaeneous PPP connections
Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:00:31 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Cameron Kerr"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Hi. I've been appointed the Network Administrator for our new geek flat
]and have a problem to do with modems.
]We have the following internet connections.
]1 Fulltime (call it "albatross")
]1 Parttime (call it "paradise") (we have two phone lines, the second
]modem would ideally be fired up on an ass-needed basis.
]Additionally, we will also have a DSL connection, though that may need to
]be connected to another ('doze) machine.
?? If you have a DSL connection why are you worrying about the modem
connection? You onely need one connection to the internet. All the
machines can hang off that one. And why to a Win box? A Linux box makes
a better router.
]My problems are as follows.
]How do I setup ppp to have more than one connection?
You run one pppd to each connection.
]How do I setup the routing tables to arbitrarily send to either modem?
You do not. The newest kernel and pppd may have mutilink support, but I
am not sure how well it works, so my first answer is the one I would
rely on.
Note-- to support multilink, the far ISP MUST also support multilink (I
think few do-- why should they tie up two modems. Of course if you pay
for 2 they might, but then you would be cheaper to go with a cable or
ADSL connection anyway.)
](I've seen in the kernel, the option IP: Equal Path Multipath. I've
]downloaded iproute2 tools, but there is not documentation for this kernel
]option.)
]Here's a quick sketch of what I think the network will look like.
]I've left out the DSL, since it is an uncertainty at present.
] Modem1 Modem2
] | |
] | |
] +----------+
] | Firewall |
] | IP Masq |
] +----------+
Make this your Linus machine. Just set up ipmasqarading and ip
fprwarding and set up your firewall rules.
] |
] |
] Hub -+-- Server
] +-- Administrative Workstation
] +-- Workstations
] ...
]If I don't get this done soonish, one of my flatmates is threatening to
]use some Windows package (freaking out here). Someone help, pleeaase...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Softmodem/pppd problem
Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:03:44 GMT
In <92g1u9$984$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Imran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>(using Mandrake 7.0)
>Using a soft modem I'm able to dial out using the Olitec driver, but
>I can't get it to connect to my ISP.
>I don't know if this is because of a problem with the driver or with
>pppd. It dials my ISP's number, the ISP appears to accept to call and
>then nothing happens, after a short while I get "NO CARRIER" error, I
>think this is because my ISP has disconnected me.
>Anyone know how I can find what's responsible (Driver or pppd
>problem) ?
Almost certainly your pppd setup. If you can dial and get an answer,
then (usually) the modem (soft in this case) is working. (of course with
soft modems, bugs are a possibility, but then they are for hardware
modems as well.)
www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
for a step by step guide to connecting with pppd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: printing from netscape
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:08:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >How do I print a page from netscape. When I hit the print button,
> >adialog box comes up with the command 'lpr' on the top. When I hit
O.K.
> >the printer prints html code.
>
> That is strange. I thought by default netscape prints postscript, and
if
> you have a postscript printer or print filter set up for that it
should
> print fine. To use any printer in your /etc/printcap other than the
> default 'lp', you have to specify it with a -P switch (see 'man lpr').
>
> --
Thanks alot the -P option worked like a charm!
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: "Ed Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need Help with glib-1.2.8 install
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:05:50 -0500
Hi,
I am trying to install gtk-1.2.8 which I believe means I also need to
install glib-1.2.8. I have downloaded, unzipped and untarred each, and run
./configure in the glib-1.2.8 with no noticable problems. However, when I
run make, it almost immediately aborts while tring to compile gerror.c
saying no memory is allocated to struct timeval tv;. I believe this means
that it does not know where struct timeval is defined.
gerror.c #includes <sys/time.h> only if HAVE_SYS_TIME_H is defined and it
would appear that it is not defined, at least by the time we get to
gerror.c. (struct timeval is defined in bits/time.h which is #included by
sys/time.h, whcih is #included by gerror.c IF HAVE_SYS_TIME_H is defined.
If as an experiment, I just try to compile gerror.c using gcc rather then
the makefile, I get the same error, and if I modify gerror.c to define
HAVE_SYS_TIME_H, then gcc compiles gerror.c just find, but if I go back to
make, although I get by that error, I only encounter other errors for other
things not defined a little farther.
-So- the problem must be that somthing else is not right that has to happen
first, before I run the make file so that all the #defines are defined
correctly.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong, or what I should try next would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Ed Doyle
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ralph A Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing mouse causes Linux to crash/hang. kernel 2.4
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:56:08 -0800
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Robert Redelmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> mitch5555@x wrote:
>
> > Not sure how to tell the difference :) but it is a logitech,
> > "mouseman, serial-mouse port", it says under the mouse. I think when
> > I installed Linux, I said PS/2.
>
> Then it probably is a PS/2 that could be plugged into either the
> serial or mouse (PS/2) port via an adapter. The serial port is
> a DB-9 rhomboidal D-shell connector that can fit 9 pins. A PS/2
> port takes a round mini-DIN connector identical with the keyboard.
>
> > but even if it is PS/2, why should the OS hangs when removing
> > the mouse? suppose the cable slips off, this should be no cause
> > for the OS to hang? from a user point of view, this does not seem right,
> > I just at least be able to use the keyboard to cleanly shut down the
system.
>
> I don't think the OS hangs. I think the hardware hangs, and the
> OS is helpless. Not that I'd recommend anyone try hot unplugging
> PS/2, but do you see the same behaviour under MS-Windows*?
>
> On hot [un]plugging what happens is the four PS/2 connections
> (ground, +5V, data and clock) are [un]made in different order.
> For a few milliseconds you may have two or three of the four.
> It is harmful to try to power the device through the clock or
> data lines when the +5V is disconnected. Similarly, it is
> harmful to try to drain through clock or data when ground is
> disconnected. Small fractions of a second count. Count
> yourself lucky that you only locked up hardware (SCR
> latch-up on the kbd controller?)
>
> -- Robert
I agree that this most likely locks up the hardware.
I have been trying to use a manual KVM switch that was supposedly designed
for PS2 mouse and kybd. As you might expect, it locks up the the PC that
has been unselected. Generally, the keyboard and dislpay still works, but
the mouse is always locked up. The odd thing is that one of the PC's on the
KVM is using a PS2 to Serial adaptor, and it locks up as often as the PC's
witch are using the PS2 port.
It seems to me we should be able to emulate the mouse presence at the PC by
adding a resistor or two. If I could get my hands on a schematic of the PS2
ports, it would help. Certainly someone has circumvented this problem and
could save us some strokes.
-Ralph
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From: "Eriz Mendz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing RH7 in win98/win2000 dual boot box
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 05:21:06 +0300
Hey Rod, thks for the quickie reply....
How about if i install RH7 in a separate HD? You think this will simplify
everything? You see im planning to add another physical HD, probably a 15 or
20 gig drive. I think this approach will not complicate stuffs.
Is it possible to have a triple boot machine? Can LILO handle this? Thnks
again.
"Rod Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:DuL26.141473$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Eriz Mendz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi there gurus and all.
> >
> > I have RedHat Linux 7 installation CD. I love to try this on my Windows
box
> > dual booting Win98/Win2000. Win 98 is in my c drive while Win2000 is in
the
> > f drive. What's my best shot to install RH7 w/o messing-up the Windows
OS
> > selector? I have more than 1 gig extra each on drives d,e,f. My system
is a
> > P2 x 400 mhz 64 meg RAM.
>
> Unless Red Hat's changed things with version 7, it requires its own
> dedicated partition. Given your rather odd arrangement, your best bet is
> to shrink D: and/or E: to make room for new Linux partitions.
> Alternatively (and better in some ways), you could shrink partitions and
> move F: down, leaving room at the end of the drive. (This is assuming
> you're talking about partitions and not physical drives -- but in the
> latter case, you need to be more precise about how each drive is
> partitioned.)
>
> The trick with this is that Windows NT is very fussy about having its
> partitions changed. I don't know offhand if the same is true of Windows
> 2000, but I'd advise caution -- back everything up first and be prepared
> to re-install the OS from scratch, if it comes to it.
>
> In any case, you'll need some sort of partition resizer. If D: and E:
> are FAT, you may be able to make do with freeware utilities. I believe
> the Linux Mandrake installer would do it, but the freeware FIPS will
> only handle primary partitions. If D: and E: are NTFS, or if you just
> want to avoid getting Mandrake just for its installation partition
> resizer, the commercial PartitionMagic will do the trick.
>
> Another option would be to use another distribution. This is probably
> better if you just want to play with Linux a bit, because it requires a
> less radical change to your existing system. I believe there's a version
> of Mandrake that'll install in a FAT partition alongside Windows. IIRC,
> it's called "Linux for Windows."
>
> FWIW, my book, _The Multi-Boot Configuration Handbook_
> (http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/) goes into this in more detail,
> although it's a bit sparse on Win2K specifics. (Win2K was in beta when I
> wrote the book, so I was working from my limited experiences with that
> and unsure of what would change with the release version.)
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: "Roy Troxel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mounting problems
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 02:37:34 GMT
In linuxconf, I get a message that several volumes, including var, are not
mounted. But when I try to mount them, I get another message saying that
they're already mounted.
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From: emilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.news.groups
Subject: Re: A Practical Guide to Linux - Mark Sobell
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:56:38 -0800
This book is used by the on-line (free) Linux course. see the description
http://basiclinux.hypermart.net/
For those of you in the San Francisco area, you are in luck, check out:
http://www.smcoe.k12.ca.us/ssfusd/as/linux/linux1.html
Please forward this message to someone who might be interested in Linux
classes.
Thanks
Emilio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello everyone. I am a newbie and I have picked up a book on linux
> called:
>
> A Practical Guide to Linux - Mark Sobell
>
> I am wondering if anyone has read this book, and if they know where I
> can find the answers to the Review Questions? (If so, is it available
> on-line?) Thanks!!!
>
> Season's Greetings and Happy New Year!
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From: John Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI Zip drive in RH 6.2 $@#!?
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:58:31 -0600
Michael Perry wrote:
> Give us a print out of what modules you already have loaded. Try doing as
> the root user "lsmod" and capture them to a folloup post. There are a few
> modules which redhat should include and load upon demand. The interesting
> one to see are whether st, sg, and a module for your adaptec card is already
> loaded by redhat. RedHat by default includes almost the kitchen sink as
> modules available for use.
>
Here's what I get with lsmod:
Module Size Used by
ppp 20268 2 (autoclean)
slhc 4568 0 (autoclean) [ppp]
lockd 31592 1 (autoclean)
sunrpc 53540 1 (autoclean) [lockd]
opl3 11496 0
sb 34132 0
uart401 6256 0 [sb]
sound 58264 0 [opl3 sb uart401]
soundlow 420 0 [sound]
soundcore 2692 6 [sb sound]
Is this what I should see, or is there something else? Obviously, the aha152x
module isn't loaded.
JT
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "pcrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: qmail
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:57:45 -0500
Hello I am a linux newbie and I have a problem setting up qmail. I've done
everything correct till the point where it says make setup check and then I
get a message Makefile 8: No seperators Stopped or something close to that.
I am running red hat 6.2 with 2.2.17 kernal. If someone knows how to remedy
problem please tell me. Thank You
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:11:30 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: major problem with suse 6.3
hello,
I never thought Linux could damage other partitions but I guess it can,
not physically though.
Both of my hard drives are on an HPT366 controller. I only have a cdrom
and dvd on my IDE controllers, those drives are hda and hdb
respectively. My Windows drive is the master on HTP366 controller and
its hde and my linux drive is the slave being hdf. Boot partition is
hdf1 and root is hdf3.
The first problem i ran into was that I couldn't use all of my 15 gigs
for Linux. I could only partition the first 1027 cylinders which came
out to be 8 gigs even though before partitioning for Linux the
installation program was able to see the whole partition that I had of
Windows. The cylinders still weren't correct though for that partition.
But I figured I'll just use fdisk later on to assign the last 7 gigs to
a partition.
I tried to put LILO on the MBR but since no hard drive existed there (my
cdrom is hda) I couldn't do that so I chose the MBR of the boot
partition which ended up not working. Later I changed the boot= variable
in lilo.conf to be /dev/hde1 so that I got a LILO prompt when I booted.
This worked and I could get into Linux.
But I could not get into WIndows. I type in Win to get into Windows and
all I get in return is this:
Loading windows...
LI
and that's it. I have no clue why. I added the linear option to
lilo.conf and put 'compact' in but neither helped. I tried fdisk /mbr
from a dos bootdisk which had no affect (maybe b/c I had no MBR on
/dev/hda). Luckily I could do lilo -u and that got me back to loading
Windows.
However when I load Windows I get illegal ops with explorer.exe about 3
times and a few other programs and within seconds the whole system is
frozen, every time I boot. Using a DOS bootdisk and typing 'win' at the
prompt I get 'system registry' not found and vfat errors. (i've since
reinstalled windows and so far things seem to be ok regarding that but i
can't boot into it while using LILO and im even afraid to do that now
considering what just happened with my windows partition messing up
somehow)
So can anyone tell me what might be wrong?
Also, I noticed when Linux boots that it can't mount my Windows
partition. it says wrong fs type, bad superblock or too many filesystems
mounted already and therefore i cant mount automatically or manually my
windows partition, probably for the same reason I can't boot from it
either using LILO, even though regular booting w/o LILO works fine from
the UDMA66 controller.
any ideas are appreciated.
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 486, Linux and X-windows
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 03:08:20 GMT
Ed Collins wrote:
>
> Hello, there:
>
> I'm in the process of installing Linux and X-windows on my 486 with 126K of
> cache and 8 MBytes of RAM.
>
> My question is, will Linux and X-windows work well? Should I get more
> cache? More memory? Or should I purchase a MB from e-bay that will fit
> inside a 486 case?
>
> I would certainly appreciate a discussion on this topic.
>
> ed collins
Most of the current distros won't install with less than 16mb of ram.
The main linux desktops, gnome and kde need 32mb. The box you have would
be fine for a gateway/firewall box or a console based linux box.
Upgrading is always a tradeoff, with a new motherboard you'll find you
will need to replace just about everything else as well, a new case
because the board is ATX form factor not AT, new memory because it needs
DIMMs not SIMM, new cards because it PCI based not ISA, a new CPU etc,
etc...
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