Linux-Setup Digest #300, Volume #19 Wed, 2 Aug 00 05:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (brian moore)
Re: Time Jumps + 10 hours - RH 6.2 (E J)
Re: IRQ'S ("Karen Cheer")
Re: Installing SuSE 6.4 above 1024 ("NoSpam@")
Re: Time Jumps + 10 hours - RH 6.2 (David Efflandt)
Re: 'cdrecord' error!!?? (Davide Bianchi)
Re: 2 hard drives (Davide Bianchi)
Re: IBM ThinkPad LapTop Installation (Michael Perry)
Re: Linux from scratch (Michael Perry)
Re: hello.cc won't compile (Maurizio Loreti)
Re: SuSE Yast (Richard Biffl)
lpd has become a ghost (Pascal Matzler)
Re: X on compaq Elite 4/40C laptop? need help ("pascal")
Can't run pppd as a background process (Hugo)
Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400? !!!SOLVED!!! (sideband)
Re: Ethernet NIC setup--HELP! ("David ..")
CGI and Apache ("Mark Gallegos")
Red Hat 6.1 Pakete nachtr�glich installieren (Matthias Schulz)
Re: CGI and Apache ("Patrick Clinger")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 2 Aug 2000 05:13:00 GMT
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:25:49 -0700,
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
> >
> > blowfish writes:
> > > Red Hat, Debian et al are ALL selling the GNU-GPL stuff for money.
> >
> > Wrong. Debian sells nothing.
> >
>
>
>http://linuxmall.com/shop/01496?cat=ROOT&sort=2&vid=&search=debian&SID=90de0b724faa8352f505f5269a3dc28b&Start=
>
> It shows a $17.95 price tag there. ;-)
And Linuxmall is selling that. Not Debian.
(Hint: note the 'Manufacturer' field.)
> > > I know exactly what free software are. But my reason of using "free
> > > software" is not because they're free I always BUY the "official CDs/DVD
> > > releases,
> >
> > Then you don't know what free software is. It's free as in free speech,
> > not as in free beer.
>
> No, I *NEVER* care about beer. Free or not free. :-)
>
> But Free Speech is what I like, and treasure.
>
> But I also want to support those who contribute to the good stuff. ;-)
Then contribute. Buy a $2 CD from cheapbytes (at that price, their
margin is minimal, the cd's are loss leaders to get you to buy books and
such) and donate what you think is fair to Software in the Public
Interest or XFree86 or whoever.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time Jumps + 10 hours - RH 6.2
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:20:49 -0700
I have the same problem. There is a conflict problem with the BIOS power
managment and time. I have not able to find a solution.
I do have two workarounds:
1) Go to your BIOS and turn off the power management.
2) If you are only running Linux. set your CMOS to GMT time, and have the
local time set to the offset to GMT.
Christopher Burke wrote:
> Every so often the system clock jumps forward 10 hours (which happens to
> be how for ahead we are from GMT).
>
> The hardware clock is fine, the system clock stays OK for several hours,
> then suddenly jumps 10 hours. Did it this morning at 11:37am (local time),
> 01:37am (GMT) - the clock jumped to 09:37pm (local time), 11:37am (GMT).
>
> Settings from /etc/sysconfig/clock are
>
> ZONE="Australia/Brisbane"
> UTC=false
> ARC=false
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Christopher Burke
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From: "Karen Cheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IRQ'S
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:20:11 +1200
All i have is i/o and interput
Karen Cheer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8m7td6$ovf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am about to setup turbolinux 6.0 on my mechine, how do i find IRQ's and
> input/output ranges in win98se
>
>
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From: "NoSpam@" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing SuSE 6.4 above 1024
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 06:03:35 GMT
Peter Magnusson wrote:
> Is there a way to install SuSE 6.4 and make
> it to use lilo 21.5 that is able
> to boot linux from above 1024?
Yes, you can boot Linux above 1024 but not
'from' above 1024. You can initiate boot
from only 4 places really; MBR, a low primary,
or floppy, or CD.
LiLo-21.5 can boot above 1024 on any drive
- this tgz file unpacks a binary with 'make'
but 'make install' will put it to /sbin/lilo
and park all the loader files to /boot
You can run /sbin/lilo redirecting it
to its other files including config and even
tell it where to park the map file and under
what name anywhere else even on floppy with
switches. None of these 'have' to be @ /boot
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo/lilo-21.5.tar.gz
- this doc covers triple OS + LiLo + BootManager; you
can also boot from floppy using kernel either on
the floppy or on HD (much faster).
http://catamax.com/pub/compuke/dasbot/dasbotte.htm
- this one will show you how to back up your windows
or Warp the spanish way (eManuel) and restore it to
a new smaller FAT C partition in less than an hour if
you have a recent zip, tar, or Warp xCopy available.
Then you can install any number of Linux partitions. A
much easier way is to use Partition Magic but I can't
confirm that, not having tried.
http://catamax.com/pub/compuke/bax.htm
HTH
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Time Jumps + 10 hours - RH 6.2
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:18:36 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:20:49 -0700, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have the same problem. There is a conflict problem with the BIOS power
>managment and time. I have not able to find a solution.
>I do have two workarounds:
>
>1) Go to your BIOS and turn off the power management.
>2) If you are only running Linux. set your CMOS to GMT time, and have the
>local time set to the offset to GMT.
There is a kernel APM configuration question about that, but apmd is
normally only used for laptops, not desktops:
RTC stores time in GMT
CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT
Say Y here if your RTC (Real Time Clock a.k.a. hardware clock)
stores the time in GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). Say N if your RTC
stores localtime.
It is in fact recommended to store GMT in your RTC, because then you
don't have to worry about daylight savings time changes. The only
reason not to use GMT in your RTC is if you also run a broken OS
that doesn't understand GMT.
>Christopher Burke wrote:
>
>> Every so often the system clock jumps forward 10 hours (which happens to
>> be how for ahead we are from GMT).
>>
>> The hardware clock is fine, the system clock stays OK for several hours,
>> then suddenly jumps 10 hours. Did it this morning at 11:37am (local time),
>> 01:37am (GMT) - the clock jumped to 09:37pm (local time), 11:37am (GMT).
>>
>> Settings from /etc/sysconfig/clock are
>>
>> ZONE="Australia/Brisbane"
>> UTC=false
>> ARC=false
>>
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Christopher Burke
>
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: 'cdrecord' error!!??
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 06:25:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:20:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>cdrecord 1.8 for RH 6.2
>
>run 'cdrecord -scanbus' as root. The error message is:
>cdrecord: no such file or directory. cannot open SCSI driver
>cdrecord: for possible targets, try 'cdreord -scanbus', Make sure you
>are root.
>
>I did compile 'SCSI support' when I compiled the kernel.
Yes, but did you compiled also the IDE CDRom support ? If yes,
your CD-Burner is still under the control of the IDE controller,
hence you cannot use the SCSI interface to control it.
Recompile the kernel and be sure that:
IDE-HD YES
IDE-CD NO!!!!
SCSI-HD NO!!!!
SCSI-CD YES!!!!
Then add to the lilo.conf the append="hd?=ide-scsi" line, this
will tell to your kernle to leave the CD alone.
See also the CD-Writing-HOWTO.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: 2 hard drives
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 06:29:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:42:56 +0100, "-Devil-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I mean I would like to put a new hard disk in the machine I
>have got (PIII 790)
> and I would like one of the disks to run linux and one
>windows 98.
> How would this work? would I have to start it in the setup
>and change it each time?
Now it's more clear... Well, you have to install your Windows disk as
primary, since Windows is not able to boot from anything else than a
primary disk. You can keep your Linux disk as secondary, after you
have installed Windows on the first disk, you simply install Linux on
the second disk, then install LILO on the MBR of the first disk and
add Windows as available OS. That's all. When your machine start,
you simpli select what you want to start.
Another way is using a boot floppy to start Linux, this only if you
do not want to use LILO.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad LapTop Installation
Date: 2 Aug 2000 06:26:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:14:00 -0700, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would like to install RedHat Ver 6.2 on my IBM ThinkPad but don't know
>where to start.
>Would RH ver6.2 recognize my modem, and if I used my CD rom to install, how
>would I get my floppy recognized?
>What about a mouse? My ThinkPad uses a PS/2 mouse. Should I change to a
>serial mouse?
>How would I exchange my CD for the floppy while in Linux?
>I have a 2.1 GB hard drive I would devote to Linux.
>Would I have to recompile the Kernel to get a smaller one?
>
>Thanks in advance for any advice.
>
>
>
>
I would start by visiting the linux laptops page and check out if someone
else has installed Linux on your model of laptop. Chances are that someone
has and has some config notes. Also there are many good laptop mailing
lists devoted to discussing how to do it. I use debian on a laptop and have
received much good advice from the debian laptop mailing list. If you could
post the model of the thinkpad that would help also.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Linux from scratch
Date: 2 Aug 2000 06:29:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:23:46 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What I want to do is install Redhat 6.2 with a
>minimal amount of packages so that my system only
>has software that I need on it. The thing is I
>compile all the software I dowload from the
>source and the first time I tried to start on a
>virtually empty system I installed gcc but no
>compiling of anything worked. Could someone
>please refer me to a document on the web that
>might help me start from scratch, or give me some
>pointers.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Based on some recent experience, I was able to get redhat 6.2 down to under
50mb in size. This takes a bit of hacking and does not include X and a
whole bunch of other stuff. Pick the custom install, deselect the printing,
X, and other stuff. Select that you want to pick packages. Then start
removing stuff you either do not want or do not need. Depends on where you
want to start. Ever considered debian for this?
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Maurizio Loreti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++,gnu.gcc.help,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: hello.cc won't compile
Date: 02 Aug 2000 08:47:12 +0200
"Victor Bazarov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ...
> Well, too bad. Even g++, which I always considered pretty advanced,
> is a piece of non-standard crap... So much for Open Source being the
> way of the future!
Well, you are a little bit too critical. The defect is not in g++
itself, but in the library that comes with it; if you install
libstdc++ version 3 (libstdc++-2.90.8.tar.gz on the GNU sites), and
that is perfectly possible, you will have a quite conforming library
(also WRT std:: namespace). 2.90.8 is pretty stable, and has no (big)
bugs.
The problem is that libstdc++ version 3 was intended to be shipped
with gcc/g++ version 3 that in turn, IIRC, was announced for spring
2000; but, you know, free software is free software :-)
And, as I said, libstdc++ version 3 is perfectly usable with g++
2.95.2. Just use -fhonor-std in the compilation step to avoid linker
problems.
--
Maurizio Loreti http://www.pd.infn.it/~loreti/mlo.html
Univ. of Padova, Dept. of Physics - Padova, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 03:33:52 -0400
From: Richard Biffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE Yast
Maybe you should just direct people with questions to this newsgroup.
Michael Ross wrote:
>
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>
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>
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From: Pascal Matzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: lpd has become a ghost
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 03:25:28 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
this one is very weird.
For several months my SuSE 6.3 has printed without problems to my Epson
Stylus 440. But recently I killed a process I shouldn have, and since
then lpd acts like a ghost: It is present as a process, but will not
pick up any work. I have followed all instructions at the SuSE website,
deleted all mentioned files and packages, reinstalled them, and still,
nothing goes.
Typical answer: no deamon present...
I guess there must be acorrupted file which I missed...but which package
does it belong to ?
Thanks, Pascal
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From: "pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: X on compaq Elite 4/40C laptop? need help
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:48:41 +0100
Chipset/ASIC WD90C24A2
Manufacturer: Western Digital
Good luck !
Richard J. Freedman wrote in message
<8lnn23$asn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Does anyone know how to setup X on the subject computer? I have no idea
>what video chipset is in the beast.
>
>--
>Dick Freedman
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From: Hugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Can't run pppd as a background process
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:37:21 GMT
Hi.
I've been experimenting with a couple of Linux PPC distributions on my
home machine. I just switched from Yellow Dog Linux (YDL) Champion
Server 1.1 to SuSE 6.4 PPC. The script file to start a ppp session I
used with YDL works as foreground process but I can't seem to get it to
work as background process. If I start a ppp session (as root), the
second I close the xterm or logout, the session is dropped. What is
going on? With YDL, I could start the process as root and then work as
a regular user without keeping an extra terminal window around. Also, I
get a lot of messages from pppd when it's running--something I didn't
experience with YDL. I made sure there was no -v flag anywhere, yet I
still see the messages even when invoked with the ampersand.
I'd appreciate any help in this matter.
Thanks,
Hugo
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400? !!!SOLVED!!!
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:24:47 -0400
James:
<grin> Don't take this the wrong way... but I TOLD you it was in the BIOS!
</grin>
-SSB
James Knowles wrote:
> BIOS upgrade did more than fix the slow memory; /dev/hdb now cranks big
> time. A big thanks to all you guys. I apologise if I came across kind of
> sharp to some of you. I'm running on about 40h of no sleep now and got a
> little cranky. Hope you'll forgive!
>
> Check it out:
>
> raid5: measuring checksumming speed
> raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
> pII_mmx : 1952.625 MB/sec
> p5_mmx : 2050.542 MB/sec
> 8regs : 878.586 MB/sec
> 32regs : 717.804 MB/sec
> using fastest function: p5_mmx (2050.542 MB/sec)
>
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.91 seconds =140.66 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 6.31 seconds = 10.14 MB/sec
>
> /dev/hdb:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.91 seconds =140.66 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.18 seconds = 20.13 MB/sec
>
> This machine really rocks now. Now for some evil VMWare performance
> testing!
>
> Thanks again,
> James
>
> --
> How many Microsoft programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?
> None. They defined darkness a standard.
> - UNIXWorld, Dec. 1993
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet NIC setup--HELP!
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 03:13:12 -0500
Eric Freed wrote:
>
>
> I get "Delaying eth0 initialization."
>
> I am stumped. Can anyone help?
I have found with my systems that I have to compile the tulip module on
the system or it doesn't work. Once compiled it works great.
To compile the module you will need to log in as "root", or "su" to
root.
You can download the latest version of the Tulip.c driver from one of
the links below, or copy it from
the Linksys disk that came with the ethernet card:
http://www.linksys.com/support/support.asp?spid=25
ftp://ftp.scydld.com/pub/network/tulip.c
Next you need to add a directory named "inet" to /usr/src/linux/net
with the following command:
mkdir /usr/src/linux/net/inet
Then copy the tulip.c module into the inet directory with this:
cp /path/to/tulip.c /usr/src/linux/net/inet/
First you remove the old module.
rm -f /lib/modules/kernel_version/net/tulip.o
In order to be able to compile the module you need to be in the inet
directory. This can be done with
the following command.
cd /usr/src/linux/net/inet
Use one of the commands below depending on what is needed by your
system.
Be careful of typo errors, they will cause the compile to fail.
1.) To compile the Tulip module, issue the command below, it must all be
on one line:
gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[
-f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
2.) For a dual processor system, compile it with the command below, it
must all be on one line:
gcc -D__SMP__ -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c
tulip.c `[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo
-DMODVERSIONS`
Once compiled you need to install it as follows:
To install the new
cp tulip.o /lib/modules/kernel_version/net
You need to add the "tulip" module to /etc/conf.modules using the
correct device (eth0, eth1, etc...).
alias eth0 tulip
Now update the "modules.dep" file by issuing the following command:
depmod -a
>From this point most of the time all that is needed is to restart the
network for the new module to be
activated. You can do this with the following:
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
If you want to check it prior to restarting the network, you can issue
the command below and then
check /var/log/messages for any errors.
modprobe tulip.o
The the module is installed correctly, if no errors appear in the logs.
If you tested the install you need to unload it from the kernel with the
command and then restart the
network:
rmmod tulip.o
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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Reply-To: "Mark Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Mark Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat
Subject: CGI and Apache
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:56:52 -0700
I installed Red Hat 6.2 (custom installation) with the Apache web server
(1.3.12). I got everything to work alright -- I got the 'Test Page', I
added my own pages and everything was fine and dandy.
As I was testing CGI scripts I found that the server wasn't running them.
So I ran linuxconf and spotted the Server Tasks/Apache Web Server/Defaults
window. At the bottom of this window I spotted "May Run CGI" and clicked
this button to activate this.
Now I get the an error whenever I try to call up a web page from my web
server. "Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server."
Is it really trying to access the root '/' directory? I changed nothing
else in linuxconf. The real problem is that this problem persists even when
I uncheck the "May Run CGI" box and try to return to the original
configuration. Can anyone help me out with this problem. Many thanks to
anyone who can offer help.
Thanks, Mark
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From: Matthias Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat 6.1 Pakete nachtr�glich installieren
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:47:37 +0200
Hallo,
wie kann ich m�glichst einfach zus�tzliche Pakete, die aud fer CD von Red Hat
(6.1) sind nachinstallieren? Kann ich die Oberfl�che des Setup-Vorgangs
irgendwie aufrufen und daf�r benutzen?
Vielen Dank schon mal,
Matthias
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From: "Patrick Clinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: CGI and Apache
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:06:04 GMT
Hello,
Did you chmod your CGI script(s) 755? Try that and see if it works.
Regards,
Patrick Clinger
http://www.proboards.com/
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