Linux-Setup Digest #318, Volume #20 Sun, 31 Dec 00 16:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Even with big book, RH linux fails to run coherently,,,,,,,,,,,,, :-( (Rod Smith)
Re: Netscape mail/username (P Read)
Re: Networking with Linux (Rod Smith)
Re: Best Linux Distro? (Rod Smith)
Re: Sharing with Windows systems (Rod Smith)
Re: Netscape mail/username (David)
kernel panic (Mark)
Re: xmodmap, AltGr and Swiss keyboard (Tobias Vancura)
Re: New Mandrake installation hangs on booting (HP Staber)
Re: question_on_Linux_and_Windows98 (HP Staber)
Re: Best Linux Distro? (Graham Wilson)
Re: want to open file by double clicking mouse button (Graham Wilson)
Re: another question with xcdroast, previous problem solved (Bill Unruh)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Even with big book, RH linux fails to run coherently,,,,,,,,,,,,, :-(
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:14:46 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dick Bowyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Followed instructions to the letter to install RHppp dialer but once i
> choose isp, just get error message. Big book answers
> none.................
Unfortunately, PPP is something of a black art, in ANY OS. If it works
with the default settings, you're golden. If not, it's a pain to debug.
For help, try checking the contents of the /var/log/messages file before
and after making a connection request. The "tail" command can be great
for this, as in:
tail /var/log/messages
There will probably be some cryptic error messages there after a
connection failure. If you're lucky, they'll point you to a solution. If
not, post them, along with further details of what ISP you're trying to
use, what stuff you've entered in the PPP utility, etc., and with any
luck somebody will have an answer, or at least be able to point you
towards some further diagnostic information.
> Then try to use Linuxconf, runs ok but the
> miscellaneous services which are supposed to detail modem, printer etc
> just gives a further error. Other functions run ok. Seems to be an
> error in the RH setup to me.
Linuxconf is, in my experience, nice when it works, but *VERY* limiting
and *EXTREMELY* finicky and flaky. They seem to have removed a lot of
modules with the 7.0 release, which is probably why the book doesn't
match what you see -- the book was probably written from a beta release
that still had the modules that were later removed. (Or maybe the
relevant section just wasn't updated for RH 7, if the book had an
earlier version detailing RH 6.x.)
> Where do I go from here as the
> instructions in book fail because program gives errors? I am sure if i
> was an expert these errors could be repaired. Is Red hat so good?
For newbie use, RH isn't particularly bad, but there are better. IMHO,
Mandrake is usually easier for newbies, although I hear that the newest
7.2 release is a bit flaky in some ways. (I've not had problems with it,
though.) I've got information on several distributions on one of my Web
pages:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: P Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape mail/username
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 15:18:43 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know. The message simply said username and to use preferences to
set it.....could be its lying to me...but i wouldn't think it would
matter what the system name was.
David wrote:
> P Read wrote:
> >
> ---- snip ----
> >
> > I check the .netscape/preferences.js and it appears my username
> > is there......what gives???
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > P.S isp is using pop3 and that was set also.
> >
> > Paul
>
> ISP username or system username?
>
> --
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more W/U's than 98.969% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Networking with Linux
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:17:24 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <3Tm36.151072$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"david conner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
> I just installed Red Hat 7 (I downloaded it) and I don't know how to let it
> access the network.
You've multi-posted this -- posted it separately to two or more
newsgroups. I've already replied in a different group. In the future,
please DO NOT multi-post. Post to just one group whenever possible. If
you *MUST* post to two or more groups, do so by cross-posting -- list
all the groups on one Newsgroups: header line, separated by commas. This
reduces wasted network bandwidth and everybody's time. DO NOT, though,
cross-post to a huge number of groups. As a rule of thumb, if you post
to more than two or three groups, you're probably posting to too many.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:20:47 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello:
>
> I've been using Redhat since 5.0. However, I find with each
> release it gets more buggy, bloated, insecure, and unreliable.
> What is considered the most reliable, secure, high performance
> Linux distribution. Many of my pro-Debian friends have
> suggested that I try out Debian 2.2. Any opinions?
I've got some thoughts, although not much bloat-related, at:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
As a general comment about bloat, the last I checked Caldera, Corel, and
TurboLinux all came on just one CD-ROM for the main distribution; Red
Hat, Debian, Mandrake, and SuSE all use at least two, although some can
install from just one, and some (most notably Debian) can install pretty
slim systems. If you dislike disc-juggling and have a DVD-ROM drive,
SuSE is available in a "Professional" package that includes the whole
thing on a single DVD-ROM disc.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Sharing with Windows systems
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:22:28 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Bill Purcell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a home network to connect several local machines and provide access
> to the internet. One machine runs Corel Linux, the others all run Windows
> Me or Windows 98. I can see all of the Windows machines from the Linux box
> and can connect to each of the shared resources. I have set up Sharing on
> the Linux box as well. But I cannot see or force a connection to the Linux
> system from any of the Windows machines. What am I missing?
Try posting some details, including the version of Linux you're using
(Red Hat 7.0, Debian 2.2, etc.), how you configured sharing, and how
you're trying to make the connection. My first guess, though, is that
you failed to set the workgroup name on the Linux side, or set it
incorrectly.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape mail/username
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:26:36 GMT
P Read wrote:
>
> I don't know. The message simply said username and to use preferences to
> set it.....could be its lying to me...but i wouldn't think it would
> matter what the system name was.
True but if you are using your username from your system and trying to
get mail from your ISP's server then it will probably fail unless you
are using the same username and password for both systems.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 98.969% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,linux.redhat
Subject: kernel panic
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:36:51 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey,
I am having trouble booting my redhat 6.0 machine successfully. When the
os loads, it
recognizes my hardware, but then I get a kernel message. The message
reads, "
"kernel panic: no init found. Try passing init= option to kernel"
Trouble is, how do I go about passing this init= option to the kernel as
I have no idea.
I assume I have to do this from the command prompt, but I cannot even
get there.
Nor can I boot the machine from a boot disk. I also wanted to
reconfigure my
partitions, but I cannot do that as well. Any ideas on my kernel
problem?
Thanks,
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Vancura)
Subject: Re: xmodmap, AltGr and Swiss keyboard
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 Dec 2000 21:41:27 +0100
keycode 113 = Mode_switch
did it!
On 31 Dec 2000 12:54:46 +0100, Tobias Vancura
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Hello everybody,
>
>I have been playing around with xmodmap over the last couple
>of days trying to make a .xmodmap file for a German/Swiss
>keyboard (strange that with RH7 only the American was
>installed).
>
>The thing I could not find out was how to use the "AltGr"
>key to the right of the space bar. I guess that I did not
>tell xmodmap exactly how to use the modifier keys.
>
>Example:
>
>xmodmap -e "keycode 10 = 1 plus bar"
>
>should put "1" on the key labeled 1, "+" when it is used
>together with the Shift key and "|" when used together with
>AltGr (provided the modifiers are correct). Somehow I don�t
>get this to work. Instead I get the "1" and "+" and when I
>press "AltGr"+"1" the shell (bash) catches the keys and I
>get the
>
>(arg: 1)
>
>prompt. I can suppress this by removing the mod1 entry.
>
>Could someone please tell me where I find a more complete
>description of xmodmap (what are "keysym", "keycode" and
>modifiers actually) or even better tell me what the solution
>to the AltGr problem is.
>
>I use bash as Shell and kde1 as window manager.
>
>Thanks a lot and Happy New Year,
>
>Tobias
>
>--
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>Tobias Vancura Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tobias Vancura Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: HP Staber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Mandrake installation hangs on booting
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 21:46:17 +0100
Peter Lawrance wrote:
> I installed Mandrake Linux 7.2 on top of my Win98 2nd Edition (FAT32). =
First
> I ran Windows Defrag. I tried to split the partition using FIPS but it =
kept
> telling me the last cylinder was not empty. I ran Defrag again, then =
FIPS,
> with the same result.
AFAIR FIPS needs FAT 16 to run.
Try to split with Rhenish partition manager (free) or BOOT-US (free at
www.boot-us.de) or PartitionStar (free).
HP Staber/Salzburg
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From: HP Staber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question_on_Linux_and_Windows98
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 21:46:24 +0100
LadyHawke wrote:
> I wasn't the one who asked the original question, but I have a question
> about what you said in step 1. The main reason that I am having to ask
> instead of reading documention is that Amazon.com is taking a long time =
to
> ship my order, no local software sources outside of games.
>
> My hard drive isn't partitioned. I am assuming from #1 that there isn't =
any
> way of partitioning it outside of reformating? I hate to have to ask =
such a
> basic question, but I need to make certain before I install anything =
else on
> my computer. No point in doing it if I am going to have to reformat.....
> (will be using Partition Magic). I have hopes that the software will =
get to
> me before classes start back up in a week so that I actually have the =
time
> to work with it.
If you have to split a partition you will have to format. Make sure
that you defrag before.
Here is what I have lerned by trial and error :
=10 make a backup of your config and datafiles
=10 make a rescue disk of your WIN system
=10 tools/disc's to be kept at hand :
Win Rescue Disk
Drive Partition Disk including (keep a hardcopy of the
doc's of these programs at hand) :
FDISK, EDIT, FORMAT, FIPS
a partition manager such as Rhenisch PART.EXE,
a rescue program such as MBRWORK.EXE
=10 boot into DOS mode and start FDISK or PART to create primary and
extended partitions :
My recommendation is to have 3 primary drives and one (big)
extended partion on which you should create your drives which you
will use with windows.
The reason for this is that drive letters in the (Win)DOS world
are assigned according the following rules :
A:, B: are always floppy drives
C: is always the active, bootable primary disk
D:, E:, F: ... N: are the so called "logical" drives created on
the extended partition
(N+1):, (N+2): are the remaining primary drives. The maximum
total number of primary drives is 4 - if you have an extended
partition you would have max 3 primary partitions plus one
extended partition (which within itself may contain "logical"
drives from D: to max Z:)
(N+3): is the CD-ROM
NOTE: drive letters for other primary disk's and CD-ROM's are
automatically pushed backwards, whenever you add a "logical"
drive to your extended partition.
THEREFORE my advice is to set/have :
C: FAT32 active primary partition for Windows - ~ 1- =
2GigB
(N): FAT16 primary partition - ~ =
1GigB
you may create a bootable DOS partition on this drive - you
never know <:-)
(N+1): FAT32 primary partition for WIN which should not go beyond
cylinder # 1984 (which is the end of ~8GigB) - ~ 5- =
6GigB
you may later use this to create a LINUX instalation. The
boot section of LINUX MUST remain below cylinder # 1984 which
is why I recommend the limit above
here is where I keep my backup data as it is irrelevant if
you have a dynamic path (=3Dchanging drive letters) for
backup's
an extended partion with the remaining memory available. It should
be the biggest part of your total diskspace and have at least one
"logical" drive for all your software installations - I recommend
to have additional drives for data, games, musik, etc. The advantage =
of
doing this is that you never loose the correct path statements for
your software installations and your data files.
: assign "Z:" as drive letter for your CD-ROM
My personal setup of a 30GigByte harddisk with WinME as main OS is :
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D =2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D
=2D C:WinME=2DG:DOS=2DH:backup/Linux=2D D:data=2DE:software=2DF:reserve =2D=
=2DZ:CD-ROM=2D
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D =2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D
1Gig 1Gig 6Gig 22 Gig
3 PRIMARY PARTITIONS EXTENDED PARTITION
HP Staber/Salzburg
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From: Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:49:41 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Madden wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I've been using Redhat since 5.0. However, I find with each
> release it gets more buggy, bloated, insecure, and unreliable.
> What is considered the most reliable, secure, high performance
> Linux distribution. Many of my pro-Debian friends have
> suggested that I try out Debian 2.2. Any opinions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
Debian would be especially appropriate for you (IMHO), since you have
previous experience with Linux. You'll love it. G.
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From: Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: want to open file by double clicking mouse button
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:58:54 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Martindell wrote:
> I woud like to be able to do an "ls" in a Csh/Tcsh and
> then be able to double-click on a file name(which hi-lights
> the file name)and also automatically open the file in an
> editor such as nedit.
> Does Xfree86 or KDE allow you to create custom mouse-button
> definitions.
> On the Sun Ultra workstation I use at work, there is a dtwmrc file
> in the "$HOME/.dt" directory that allows you to redefine how the
> mouse buttons and the function keys work. Is there anything like
> this in Linux? I'm currently running Suse 7.0 w/ KDE.
>
> -steve
You can do it from midnight commander. The file that controls it is in
/usr/lib/mc/mc.ext on my machine (debian potato). If worst comes to
worst, maybe you could write a script based on what's in there. G.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: another question with xcdroast, previous problem solved
Date: 31 Dec 2000 21:05:22 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bernard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]files somewhere, but I haven't discovered them yet.
]I understand that the reason of such failure may be on the burning speed
](X2), but, what I would like to know is how to carry a check on the
]simulated burnt image rather than on the burnt cd, when it is too late.
]As previously said, the "verify burnt image" on a simulated burnt image
]fails and wastes the CD.
You cannot verify a simulated burn. Nothing was burned. Tehre is nothing
on the CD to verify. It is still a blank pristine CD waiting to have
something written to it, untouched by a laser.
xcdraost (the latest .98) has a little bar while the burning is going on
which shows how full your FIFO is. It should sit up there around 90%. If
it drops repeatedly to less than 50% you should worry.
I burn CDs at 8x ( bigger than 2x) on a P233 machine with no trouble. Not ssure what
yours is, but 2x should not be the problem unless you are running
someting in the background.
This is the ONLY reason for simulation-- to see if the fifo stays
relatively full during a burn, or whether you are burning faster than
your system can handle.
(Note that xcdroast .98test8, the latest, has a bug where when burning
audio tracks it briefly shows the buffer as empty (0%) between tracks.
This should not happen, as it is not true. So if it sits at 90-100% and
just dips to 0% each time the new track is sarted to burn, do not worry
about that. It is the dips to 30% or whatever during the burning of a
track that should worry you.
Note, I do not know what you think your CD is wasted. It should simply
have come back with an error message, since the CD has nothing burned on
it at all. Ie, you should still be able to use that CD to burn an image
onto it.
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