Linux-Setup Digest #348, Volume #20 Fri, 5 Jan 01 05:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: LILO boots only linux (Eric)
Re: Newbie needs some serious assistance.... (Eric)
Re: Newbie needs some serious assistance.... (Eric)
Re: Resizing a Partion (Eric)
Re: RH 6.2 won't boot (gdm problem) (Robert Morelli)
Re: lilo hangs when booting dos (Eric)
Re: RedHat 6.1 does not see the hard disks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98. ("kiwiunixman")
Re: Matrox AGP G450 on Redhat 7 - Can't get X to Start (benoit mordelet)
can't telnet to linux box ("wong")
Suse 7.0; Yast2, kinternet, rc.dialout und ich komme nicht ins Internet ("Ralf
Breuker")
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO boots only linux
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:17:13 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hoi Maarten,
> indeed, i upgraded Lilo
> added lines in lilo.conf
> Lba32
> install=/dev/boot-menu.b
> menu-title="suse"
??
I never seen a construct like this before, but then again, I mainly use
RedHat
and not SuSE
This is what my lilo.conf file contains:
################################################
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/hda6
other=/dev/hda1
label=WINNT
alias=NT
################################################
If you want to add a windows, copy the other construct, and change the
things you need.
If you want to add another linux kernel, copy the first construct.
>
> now when execting lilo it tells : Added linux* , Added suse, Added windows
> Rebooting from floppy -> all has rested the same
Yeah, but why do you want boot from floppy.
Put LILO in the MBR and boot directly from HDD
> No menu, no recognition for suse and windows. Do U have to make a new
> floppy? how?
If you didn't change the floppy, obviously it hasn't changed.
>
> loadlin presents itself as a tool to load linux from dos. i can load linux
> but no dos. so it wont ?!?
You have windows 95/98 ,right?
That's DOS :-)
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie needs some serious assistance....
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:29:24 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > useradd NEW_USER
>
> > su -
>
> > <your_root_passwd>
>
> > passwd NEW_USER
>
> > <enter the password>
>
> tried a variant of that, didn't seem to matter but feel free to try it
> yourself.
>
> althought I dont see how you can add the user without being root
> already.
Correct remark.
>
> > A user created this way should at least be able to login.
>
> we aren't doing this, you never get a 'shell' login. we are only
> doing password authentication for pop3 except for administration.
Okay, then I can be of little assistance, I fear
>
> > If this fails, check if /home/NEW_USER exist.
>
> not used on your system, not an issue
>
> > check the permissions of that directory.
>
> again not an issue
>
> > check if the entry in /etc/passwd is correct.
>
> this is where the problem is, when it creates the user it does not enter
> their password into the /etc/passwd file, instead of places a 'x' as if
> it was trying to 'shadow' the passwd but it never makes a shadow entry
> near as I can tell. So the password gets lost.
But the /etc/shadow file exists?
(And is writable by root: the immutable bit isn't set by accident?)
update the password related stuff? (passwd-version.rpm)
First you should really try to run pwconv
> > run df.
>
> disk free space is not an issue
>
> > see if any partitions are filled.
>
> nope
>
> > Are you explicitly denying users to login?
>
> no aside from not having a homedir or shell which they do not need for
> just pop3/imap
>
> > Check /etc/security/access.conf
>
> default redhat 6.1 install
>
> Any additional thoughts?
None, sorry.
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie needs some serious assistance....
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:32:51 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh yes, I forgot this:
Anything weird in /etc/login.defs?
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Resizing a Partion
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:37:04 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steven Powell wrote:
>
> When I started my linux install 9 days ago, I was not sure how much I
> would like it and had intended to keep using my win2k install for most of
> my computing needs. After a week of playing I've changed my mind.
> Originally when I partitioned and installed Debian I put it on a 5 gig
> partion on my second hardrive. What I would like to do is is add the
> other 5 gig on that hardrive into the partition that is currently my
> linux native. Question is there an easy way of doing this? or am I
> basically hosed and need to start over. I'm looking for a way of
> doing this without doing the following:
>
> rename /usr > usr.backup
> mount new 5 gig partion to /usr
> and then copy all the info in usr.backup to usr
>
> I know I can add space by mounting into the file system. What I would
> like to do is add that 5 gig into the current partition.
I don't know why you dislike to use different partitions, most people do
this on purpose.
Anyway, get GNU's parted, and have fun.
Eric
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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:35:17 -0500
From: Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 won't boot (gdm problem)
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have RH 6.2 installed on a SCSI based PII 333. During
> > the past few boots, the behavior became stranger and
> > stranger, and now the system won't boot. When the
> > login screen is supposed to load, I get 4 flashes
> > of snow on the screen. Then the system reverts to
> > a command line and outputs the message:
> >
> > According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (...),
> > but seems to have been murdered mysteriously.
>
> You can try to run gdm manually, from the console and see what error
> message it's generating. /var/run keeps a list of pids that processes
> are using; so if gdm quite "unexpectedly" then you'll get a stale file
> sitting there (just like stale registry entries in Windows).
>
> Sounds like, barring some wierd hardware error, you need to upgrade
> GNOME to a more recent version; it's as easy as:
>
> lynx -source http://go-gnome.org | sh
>
> (as the root user)
I did that already. Typical Linux story: The installer told me to
make sure I had -- I forgot, something like 120 Megs free -- which
I did. It then took something like 8 hours to download all the
packages on my 56k modem. At the last minute the installer decided
I didn't have enough disk space after all, and proceded to delete
every file it had downloaded. The next day, I cleared some more
disk space, let the thing run its 8 hours again, but this time
I watched the disk space as it was installing. It turned out to
need something like 60 Megs more than it claimed. In the end, it
did finally install. What worries me most about this, is that I've
seen people rave in the news groups about how good the GNOME installer
is?! Kind of makes me wonder what kind of standards the Linux
community is settling for.
> > The only thing that's changed recently is that I put
> > a new IDE in the machine (which boots off a SCSI drive).
> > However, I did not format the drive or even try to
> > get Linux to recognize it.
>
> Shouldn't have an effect, unless, of course, it's a hardare conflict
> of some sort (which can happen -- x86 hardware is cheap and flaky).
>
> > I get the same result even if I boot from my rescue
> > floppy.
> >
> > At this point, my main concern is not restoring the
> > system to operation, but simply getting access to my
> > data.
>
> Your data can be accessed by booting into runlevel 1
>
> LILO: linux 1
I've done this and it's worked.
> > Since this sort of weirdness has been the norm
> > during my attempts to use Linux, I am currently
> > undecided whether I have the time to continue attempting
> > to run this OS.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any advice on either a) the issue of getting
> > access to my data, or b) whether it's worth my time to
> > continue this very long and frustrating quest to get Linux
> > to work.
>
> I have (and do) run linux on all these:
>
> 386/25 4MB RAM
> 486/66 16 MB RAM
> P5/133 Packard Bell
> P5/133 laptop
> PII/266 256MB RAM (~20GB space SCSI)
> CelronA/400 192MB RAM (my workstation)
> Athlon/700 128MB RAM (~30GB space IDE)
> Dual Pentium III/550 512MB RAM (~60GB SCSI)
> Dual Pentium II/300 1GB RAM (~100GB SCSI RAID)
> Dual P5/166 [no mmx :)] 64MB RAM (~9GB SCSI)
> PII/400 laptop 128MB RAM
> PowerMac 7500 64MB RAM
>
> And on many more like these -- I've installed many distributions, but
> RedHat seems to be the most stable (at least, looking over the last 5
> years it has been for us). I currently run RedHat 6.x on our
> production machines and 7.0 on the desktops -- I do have a Debian and
> a FreeBSD box as well.
Sigh. That's not what I was hoping to hear. I've tried RH 6.2, 7.0,
as well as Mandrake 6.0 and 6.5 (which are based on RH). I found the
Mandrake distribution downright amateurish, and the RH so flaky I'd
be ashamed to charge money for it. For instance, the
linuxconf program in 6.2 crashed on average about once
a minute. Even when it wasn't crashing, it had user interface
problems that I wouldn't accept from a first semester programming
student -- things like buttons with inappropriate actions not being
greyed out, button presses generating *no* response at all (not the
expected action, not a beep, not a flash, not an error message, ...,
just nothing). I sent email to RH complaining about this kind of
thing, but got no response. To tell you the truth, I'd be pretty
surprised if it turns out the folks who wrote linuxconf could pass
an Introduction to Programming 101 final exam.
What I was hoping somebody would say is, ``Well, of course RH is
just a bunch of hackers who don't know much more about programming than
keywords and syntax. I use XXX, which is written by pros, under
commercial quality control standards ...''
Tell me it ain't so. SuSE? TurboLinux? ... They're actually *worse*
than Red Hat?
> I've had some problems with it, but none like I used to have with
> Windows. I never *ever* use unsupported hardware on machines that
> must work; I do have a Nvidia TNT2 Ultra in my desktop machine, which
> is probably the only "experimental" piece of hardware that I use (and
> XScreensaver can crash the X11 server with GL saves).
I suppose almost any laptop could be considered problematic. My
desktop machines are completely mainstream though, apart from booting
off a SCSI drive. In the present machine, I have an intel PII 333,
matrox G200 video card and a soundblaster sound card, a generic
internal modem (not a
winmodem), adaptec 2940W SCSI adapter, 3COM ethernet III card, zip
and jaz drives.
I've been opposed to MS for a long time and have boycotted all MS
technology since about 1992 (though I've used Windows software
occasionally
at work and on my wife's machines). I've had big problems running DOS,
Windows 3.1, and to a lesser extent Windows 95. I'd love to say Linux
kicks Windows' butt, but I'm an advocate, not a liar, and I'm also
sane, not insane. My experience tells me that Linux isn't in the same
league as MS and probably won't be for another 5 or 10 years, if ever.
I suspect that the only way people have success with it is by limiting
(as you do) the hardware used, limiting the software used, limiting
the kinds of things the system does, and avoiding stressing the system
generally. At this point, I'm not looking for anything great,
anything
that MS would be proud to call Windows 2001. I just want something that
boots. What I need to learn from honest people, is what I need to
do, and what I need to avoid, in order to have a Linux system that
will
actually boot next time I turn the power on.
> In short, I rarely (ie, practically never) have problems with it.
> It's different than Windows NT. It's been well worth my time, and my
> company's time. It just keeps getting better and better.
>
> You should have seen the days of Slackware and FVWM.
What worries me most, is that a lot of the people still working on
Linux
are the same people who were happy as larks in those days.
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo hangs when booting dos
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:41:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I've got a problem with my lilo installation. I'm running redhat 7.0 and
> windoze 98 dual boot, except windows won't boot. At the lilo prompt I
> select dos and then the screen says (loading dos) and just sits there.
> (Loading dos) are the only words on the screen.
> When I choose linux at the lilo prompt, it boots into linux and
> everything works perfectly.
> I can still boot into windows, I just have to change the default boot in
> the bios.
> Windows is installed on a 814MB disk and linux is installed on a 6.4 Gig
> disk. There is a 1 gig windows partition on the 6.4 disk.
> When I installed redhat, the installation program didn't give me a
> choice to install the 814MB windows disk as part of the dual boot.
> Instead the only dos choice it gave me was the 1 gig partition on the
> 6.4 gig disk. After installation, I went into linux config to change the
> lilo setup, which I did, to boot (hdb) as dos. It gave me the results as
> I wrote above.
>
> Here is my lilo.conf file:
> boot = /dev/hda
> timeout = 50
> linear
> prompt
> message = /boot/message
> default = linux
> vga = normal
> root = /dev/hda4
> read-only
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
> label = linux
> other = /dev/hdb
> label = dos
>
1) is /dev/hdb correct?
try `fdisk -l /dev/hdb`
I expect you'll need /dev/hdb1
2) DOS must start from disc 0x80,
so use the map-drive command
other = /dev/hdb
label = dos
map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80
#I'm not sure if you need the next line
table=/dev/hdb
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.1 does not see the hard disks
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:08:25 GMT
Ok, I did find the drivers but I am not sure that the installation
gives the option to provide installation new drivers. Do you know
how I can do this? Also, the drivers are compressed and TARed. How,
will this work if the OS is not even installed?
Thanks a lot.
Haris
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> When it asks if you want to add drivers at the beginning of the
> installation, say 'yes'. Next, choose SCSI and finally select the
> SCSI card that is in your system.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
>
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From: "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:57:16 GMT
Goto a proper Linux support group would be a good first step.
kiwiunixman
"gataway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm going to setup a new system with two ATA 100 harddisk, one for win
> 98 the other for Linux RH7.I'm planning to have BootMAgic and Partition
> Magic install .
> So which OS do i install first? And what partition is needed for noth
> win98SE and Linux? Can i have and exmaple of how much space for each
> partition? I will
> Install most of the application and games on win98SE ,as for linux i am
> a newbie still
> need to explore more about it.Kindly give me a senerio on what to do.
>
>
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From: benoit mordelet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Matrox AGP G450 on Redhat 7 - Can't get X to Start
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:25:10 +0100
Eric Ste-Marie wrote:
>
> Well I'm working in X with the G450 right now. Are you guys not seeing
> anything at all?
well, when I tried with XFree86 4.0.1 + driver from matrox web site, and
kernel 2.2.17 or 2.4.0-test12, the result was always the same : X seemed
to start but then freezed and I couldn't switch to VT, kill X with
ctl-alt-backspace, or anything else and had to press the reset button.
>
> I have it running in 24bits at 1600x1200 and the card works very fine.
>
> once your XF86config file is well configured you start DualHead with
> "startx -- +xinerama"
>
> Also, read carefuly the /var/log/XFree86.0.log file for debugging info.
> This is how I manage to figure it out.
>
> The Chipset on the G450 seems to be G400 so it should work in single screen
> with the generic mga driver shipped with XFree86 4 . But you might
> experience similar problems as I did.
judging from the mail of the guy who sent the patch for matroxfb, G450
behaves like G400 exept for initialization.
> [then follows a micro howto ;-)]
>
> I hope this helps,
thanks, I'll try this.
>
> -Eric
>
ben
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From: "wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't telnet to linux box
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:48:54 +0800
Reply-To: "wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
i have win98 box and redhat 6.0 box. i can ping to redhat 6.0 from win98
box, but can't telnet to redhat 6.0 box. why ?
ken
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From: "Ralf Breuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.os.linux.suse,cityweb.computer.linux,comp.windows.x.kde,de.comp.os.unix.apps.kde,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Suse 7.0; Yast2, kinternet, rc.dialout und ich komme nicht ins Internet
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:40:29 +0100
Hallo,
folgendes Problem: Die Verbindung ins Internet am Prompt klappt perfekt.
Zumindest kann ich andere Rechner anpingen ...
Wenn ich aber mit YaST2 den Internetzugang f�r's KDE konfigurieren will,
schmiert YaST2 bei der Modemerkennung ab - obwohl das wie gesagt,
konfiguriert ist und l�uft. Folglich schreibt YaST2 auch keine
Konfigurationsdateien - welche fehlen, wei� ich also nicht. Unter anderem
(?) fehlt die /etc/rc.dialout, die kinternet gerne h�tte um den
Internetzugang zu konfigurieren.
Leider finde ich keinerlei Dokumentation, was sich kinternet da so
vorstellt. Wenn mir jemand einen hinweis auf eine Doku, oder auch nur
einfach eine funktionierende und vielleicht etwas dokumentierte rc.dialout
schicken k�nnte, w�re ich sehr dankbar.
Danke
Ralf
Entschuldigung f�r das Crossposting, aber ich habe die Frage schon einmal
vor einigen Tagen gestellt und keine Antwort bekommen :-(
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