Linux-Setup Digest #376, Volume #20               Mon, 8 Jan 01 15:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: KDE Logout Problem (Frank VAN DER MEIREN)
  Re: Easy question - Palm software and RH 7.0 (K. Bruner)
  help with compiling kernel 2.4 (Hung Ngoc Lai)
  Re: need to add Ethernet Module...How? ("bert RdeC")
  How can I find which options are compiled into my kernel? (Victor S. Miller)
  Re: Easy question - Palm software and RH 7.0 ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: help with compiling kernel 2.4 (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: mc: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory? (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Serious RHL 7 Problem ... ("J.Pedro")
  Re: Lin4Win Install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DLink Networkcard + SB AWE32 Probs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  clock problem ("Marc Balsys")
  Re: Install RH 6.2 over FTP ("H.A.J. van Niekerk")
  hostname? ("James")
  Acknowledgement please? (***[EMAIL PROTECTED]***)
  Re: ATI RADEON DOES *NOT* WORK WITH LINUX ("Michael Rodgers")
  startx doesn't start X ("Robert Lock")

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From: Frank VAN DER MEIREN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Logout Problem
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:29:10 GMT

Ray Lassiter wrote:

> I'm not sure why this happens but when I logout of KDE I would like to be
> returned to the console command line. However, when I logout X shuts off
> my monitor. Not sure why. I am running KDE 2 and XFree4.1. Does anyone
> have any clue?
> 
> Ray
> 
> 

First thing you need to check, is the default runlevel. If you would like 
to get out of X and back into the Bash command interpreter environment, the 
default runlevel should be 3 instead of 5. You can alter this in 
/etc/inittab.

Second thing to check are the KDE Login settings (you will need to be root 
in order to do this, or at least enter the root password when KDE asks you 
for it. Then, you will find a tab letting you choose how to shutdown, i.e. 
the choice between 'Everyone' (everyone can shut down), 'Console only' (you 
need to switch to a text console, log in there and issue the 'halt' 
command, or 'Root Only' (a dialog should appear, asking you for the root 
password).

It may be required (after shutting down X) that you press Alt-F1/F6 to 
swich to another terminal environment... The Alt-F7 'area' is the one 
usually designated for X...

Hope this helps you some... :)

Frank Van Der Meiren, aka [BeoWulf].

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Bruner)
Subject: Re: Easy question - Palm software and RH 7.0
Date: 8 Jan 2001 18:30:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:05:10 GMT, Peter T. Breuer said something like:
> K. Bruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:24:25 +0000, John Beardmore said something like:
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Rose
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >> This is all very well oh wise one, but how is the utter novice to know
> >> what modules to install ?

> > Or even someone like me who has a little more experience.

> What's your difficulty? Read the package description if you wonder. Or
> better yet, just guess blindly and change your mind afterwards.

As I said, I looked at all the modules in the config and none of them
seemed relevant.  Yes, "looking at" did consist of reading descriptions.

> Use jpilot. Install the palm utils stuff first. All staed in the
> README.

What README?  I read the PalmOS Desktop HOWTO and saw nothing about 
jpilot.  The only possibility they mentioned was pilot-link, and there was 
no troubleshooting section.  I will try jpilot, but since it didn't show up
in the linuxdoc searches I did, I had no way of knowing it existed as an
alternative.

> Ther's nothing to recognize. It just talks to the serial port on which
> your palm is hooked. Either your serial port works or it doesn't. 

I also had no way of knowing if the problem was the serial port itself or
some problem with pilot-link when it was trying to talk to the serial
port/cradle.

> Why? Just check that your port works! Stick a modem on it and see.

As I stated in my post, I have an internal PCI modem.  I don't have
a cabled serial device to stick on this port.

> > One thing that confuses me a little is this:  I have an internal PCI
> > modem which shows up as COM5 under Windows 98 but works as /dev/ttyS0 

> It works as whatever you like.  Read the Serial HOWTO, before I feel
> obliged to get rude (since that would be my umpteentyith explanation
> that setserial will set any of the serial devices to look at any of the
> IRQs and io addresses that you might wish, whether there is a serial
> port there or not, and I wish people would grok this simple fact: setserial
> has nothing to do with and does nothing to serial ports nor modems. It
> configures a kernel driver. That is all).

Yes, but I didn't know if the problem was hardware, driver-based, or
something in pilot-link itself.  That's why I'm posting here.  To see if
someone could narrow down the possibilities.  I assumed this group was
not made just so you terribly enlightened dudes could talk about how cool
you are because you set up your machines and how uncool everyone is who has
problems doing so.

Being an asshole to people asking questions is not the way to advocate
linux.  If people think they have to deal with someone like you while
they're learning the ropes, why would they want to bother?


-Karen

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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with compiling kernel 2.4
Date: 8 Jan 2001 18:42:16 GMT

Hi everyone,

I am running RedHat Linux version 6.1 with kernel 2.2.18.  I would like to
upgrade the kernel to version 2.4.  I download linux-2.4.0.tar.gz to /usr/src
directory the following steps:
1) gunzip linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
2) tar -xvpf linux-2.4.0.tar
3) cd /usr/src/linux
4) make mrproper
5) make menuconfig (in this step, I uncheck the Cardbus support (pcmcia) because
   I am running linux on a destop [dell 300MHz])
6) make dep
7) make clean
8) make bzImage
9) make modules
10)make modules_install

in step 10, I get this error:

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/arch/i386/lib'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules_install'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/arch/i386/lib'
cd /lib/modules/2.4.0; \
mkdir -p pcmcia; \
find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{} pcmcia
if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map  2.4.0; fi
/sbin/depmod: invalid option -- F
Usage: depmod [-e -s -v ] -a [FORCED_KERNEL_VER]
       depmod [-e -s -v ] MODULE_1.o MODULE_2.o ...
Create module-dependency information for modprobe.

  -a, --all                  visit all modules
  -d, --debug                run in debug mode
  -e                         output unresolved symbols
  -i                         ignore symbol versions
  -m, --system-map <file>    use the symbols in <file>
  -s, --system-log           use the system log for error reporting
      --help                 display this help and exit
  -v, --verbose              run in verbose mode
  -V, --version              output version information and exit
make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1

*******

At this point, I copy the bzImage and System.map to /boot, modify the 
/etc/lilo.conf, and run the /sbin/lilo command and reboot the box.  When
the system is restarted, it hangs.  I could not get passed the line 
"decompressing the linux kernel".  

Going back to the error message, it has to do with the pcmcia modules which
I don't need.  How do I get around this problem?  When I recompile the box
with kernel 2.2.18, I didn't see the pcmcia directory under 
/lib/modules/2.2.18; however, I do see the pcmcia directory 
/lib/modules/2.4.0/pcmcia under kernel 2.4.  Can anyone help me with this
problem?  Right now, I am running kernel 2.2.18 but I really would like
to use kernel 2.4.  I am a newbie here so please gentle with me.

Many Thanks....
David

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From: "bert RdeC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need to add Ethernet Module...How?
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:46:00 -0500

Thanks...I'll give it a try!

"H.Bruijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:24:41 -0500, bert RdeC allegedly wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am trying to add a Netgear Ethernet card FA311, on a RH v 7.0 box. The
> >card comes with drivers under linux, source files, a ".o" file, and a
> >makefile. What is the best way to add this to my system so it will
recognise
> >the card??
>
> First I don't know the card. There should be a README file with
> instructions.
> Generally a pre compiled module (the file with  the .o extension) is for
> a specific kernel version. What you do is, you copy the file to the
> directory /lib/modules/*/net run "sbin/depmod -a" and insert the module
> in the running kernel with the command "/sbin/modprobe NAME" where the
> name is the name of the module without the .o extension. Now When your
> kernel version doesn't match the the version the module was compiled for
> you need to compile it yourself.
> Most likely you first need to install the rpm with the kernel headers,
> the follow the compile installations (usually something along the lines
> of
> ./configure (or make configure)
> make
> make install
>
> --
> If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Herman Bruijn                            mail:          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The Netherlands                       website:   http://hermanbruijn.com



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Subject: How can I find which options are compiled into my kernel?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor S. Miller)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:45:03 GMT

Is there a command (or shell script) that I can use to list all of the
options that are compiled into my kernel?  I'm running RH 7.0.
-- 
Victor S. Miller     | " ... Meanwhile, those of us who can compute can hardly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    | be expected to keep writing papers saying 'I can do the
CCR, Princeton, NJ   | following useless calculation in 2 seconds', and indeed
    08540 USA        | what editor would publish them?"  -- Oliver Atkin

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Easy question - Palm software and RH 7.0
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:05:13 GMT

K. Bruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:05:10 GMT, Peter T. Breuer said something like:
>> Use jpilot. Install the palm utils stuff first. All staed in the
>> README.

> What README?  I read the PalmOS Desktop HOWTO and saw nothing about 

The jpilot README.

> jpilot.  The only possibility they mentioned was pilot-link, and there was 
> no troubleshooting section.  I will try jpilot, but since it didn't show up
> in the linuxdoc searches I did, I had no way of knowing it existed as an
> alternative.

??

>> Ther's nothing to recognize. It just talks to the serial port on which
>> your palm is hooked. Either your serial port works or it doesn't. 

> I also had no way of knowing if the problem was the serial port itself or
> some problem with pilot-link when it was trying to talk to the serial
> port/cradle.

>> Why? Just check that your port works! Stick a modem on it and see.

> As I stated in my post, I have an internal PCI modem.  I don't have
> a cabled serial device to stick on this port.

Then you'd better get something like it, because there's no other way to
test that a serial port works except by testing that it works, which
means testing that it works ...  

>> It works as whatever you like.  Read the Serial HOWTO, before I feel
>> obliged to get rude (since that would be my umpteentyith explanation
>> that setserial will set any of the serial devices to look at any of the
>> IRQs and io addresses that you might wish, whether there is a serial
>> port there or not, and I wish people would grok this simple fact: setserial
>> has nothing to do with and does nothing to serial ports nor modems. It
>> configures a kernel driver. That is all).

> Yes, but I didn't know if the problem was hardware, driver-based, or
> something in pilot-link itself.  That's why I'm posting here.  To see if

So you find out. That means reducing the variables to one. Use known
good testing equipment.

> someone could narrow down the possibilities.  I assumed this group was
> not made just so you terribly enlightened dudes could talk about how cool
> you are because you set up your machines and how uncool everyone is who has
> problems doing so.

> Being an asshole to people asking questions is not the way to advocate

Where do you get this from? Do you get off on suddenly springing
insults for no reason?

> linux.  If people think they have to deal with someone like you while
> they're learning the ropes, why would they want to bother?

What's the problem? There's nothing to deal with! I've been polite and
civil with you but if you think you are in some kind of ego contest, then
yes, you will have a hard time, because I don't care two hoots about
your ego. I am trying to get you to think in straight lines, thus
saving yourself and me a lot of bother.


Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: help with compiling kernel 2.4
Date: 8 Jan 2001 14:01:28 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <93d1m8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hung Ngoc Lai wrote:
> I am running RedHat Linux version 6.1 with kernel 2.2.18.  I would like to
> upgrade the kernel to version 2.4. 

> cd /lib/modules/2.4.0; \
> mkdir -p pcmcia; \
> find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{} pcmcia
> if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map  2.4.0; fi
> /sbin/depmod: invalid option -- F

> Going back to the error message, it has to do with the pcmcia modules which
> I don't need.

No, I don't think so.  The /sbin/depmod command is independent from the
pcmcia stuff above.

You need to update your modutils: see Documentation/Changes.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: mc: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:13:14 GMT

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:16:46 GMT, Roger Michael Seip
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am receiving the following error message in my /var/log/messages:
>
>mc: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory
>
>This occurs when entering midnight commander both in console mode and
>within a terminal under X.
>
>What adjustment do I need to make in order to activate mouse support
>for midnight commander?  My mouse works fine under X.

Start the GPM process. GPM ("General Purpose Mouse") provides
text-console based mouse support, and manages the /dev/gpmctl file.



Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: "J.Pedro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serious RHL 7 Problem ...
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:12:57 +0000

Hi Bernard

I also had that problem a couple of times and the best way to resolv it was  to
use only one screen mode ( 800x600 for example ) and  one color dept  during
instal when you configure de video .
Of course you can allways go to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config  and try to do it
by hand in the svga server section .

Good luck !
J.Pedro

Bernard Chan wrote:

> I am entirely a Linux newbie. I have installed Red Hat Llinux 7
> "successfully", but when I start the X Windows, the display just grow too
> big and run out of screen that even a button fills a quarter of the screen.
> I am using Acerview 33 (an indeed very old model) and S3 Trio video card. I
> have run Xconfigurator and experiment with video mode settings several times
> and still got no cure.
>
> Everything is fine in Windows (800 x 600), but I don't know what is
> happening here.
>
> Assistance from you is very much appreciated.
>
> By the way, I have another question. Can I exit from KDE to the shell
> prompt?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lin4Win Install
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:07:28 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459) wrote:
> Good question.  I have been having
> the same generic problems, esp
> with a Win NT machine.  I will
> follow this thread in hopes of
> helpful information, david

Lin4Win does not work under NT. NT does not have a real-DOS mode, and
the loopback filesystem is not comatible with NTFS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DLink Networkcard + SB AWE32 Probs
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:05:27 GMT


> that driver history is something else ... When I look in
> /lib/modules/2.2.16/net I can't find the driver for my DLink 220 card.
I
> can see that their are drivers like de4x5.o, de600.0 and de620.o
(which
> are IMHO also DLinkcard drivers), but is not possible to load any of
> them.
>
> > modprobe ne.o
>
> I also tried this one, but I always get a "can't load module bla bla
> bla"... I tried to find the drivers for that networkcard on the site
of
> DLink, but apparently they do not exist...
>

Hrm, the D-Link 220 is the same card I have, and if "pnpdump" picked it
up then you've also got the ISA PnP version that I do...
The D-Link card uses the ne.o driver, so if it's not working, then
there's another problem. But the ne.o is definitely the right driver.

You might want to try supplying the IO and IRQ paramters to modprobe
like so:

modprobe ne.o io=<yourio>, irq=<yourirq>


In addition to specifying which IRQ and IO ports to use in the
"isapnp.conf" file, you might need to add the following lines to your
"/etc/conf.modules" file:

alias eth0 ne
options ne io=<youriostart> irq=<yourirq>
#i.e. options ne io=0x240 irq=4

As well, add this line to your "/etc/modules" file:

ne

Also, I remember hearing somewhere that the PnP setting of your
motherboard's BIOS can potentially interfere with the OS using PnP
properly. Try turning your BIOS's "PnP OS" feature on or off and see if
that makes a difference.

If none of this works, you might have to compile NE2000 support into
your Kernel.


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From: "Marc Balsys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: clock problem
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:28:08 +0100

hi
i have a problem with my system clock. after using linix my system clock is
not correct any more.
e.g. december 26 10 oclock

this happens everytime I use linux !!!

thank you for every little hint

marc

--

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From: "H.A.J. van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,redhat.general,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Install RH 6.2 over FTP
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:29:20 +0100

Hi Scott,

Thank you for this good idea! The problem I've got now is that it says:
'reverse name lookup failed' and
'transferring ftp://10.0.0.4/mnt/cdrom/RedHat/base/netstg2.img to a fd'
and there it stops...

Huub

Scott wrote:

> are you sure you have the correct format for the IO setting.
>
> IO=0x0360
>
> try a whole bunch of differnt IO addresses, during install you can
> check some debug by using CTRL-ALT F1,F2,F3 etc.
>
> Regards
> Scott Farrell
> www.icconsulting.com.au
>
> IC Consulting offer a range of services including e-business
> consulting, CRM Analysis and Integration, network security analysis,
> secured e-commerce hosting, business to business e-commerce, Internet
> to business integration, ERP leverage and integration, firewall
> development and installation, "TimeConnect" our Time Management ASP
> and "eContentConnect" a Domino to WebSphere Integration Solution.
>
> In article <8k066.133383$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Jan Geertsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Douglas M. Pervine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have found that the 'NE-2000' compatible cards are very old and
> don't
> > have a
> > > MAC assigned to them..  They mostly work on the broadcast
> method..   Look
> > for
> > > a good 3COM card..   I've been using various 3COM cards for years
> and love
> > them
> > > a lot..   Never a problem with Linux..   I started with RH5.2 and
> now
> > running
> > > RH6.2.  Good Luck!
> >
> > Well, or buy a new cheap ne2000 compatible clone, I've used both lots
> of
> > 3com and ne2k's and both need a little love and affection to get them
> to
> > work. but 3com's aren't available for $20 or less. Never seen a mac-
> less
> > ne2000,
> > Jan
> >
> >
>
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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hostname?
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:35:24 +0100

I'm trying to configure my rh7 machine to send mail using pine and sendmail.
sendmail itself seems to be running out of the box, but when I try to send
mail, it looks like sendmail uses my hostname as a reply address and gives
my the error message that it was not a valid maildomain. which hostname do i
have to set ? and is it possible to have more than one mailaddress on the
same machine? i actually wanted to use 3 different mail accounts.

help appreciated

James



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From: ***[EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Subject: Acknowledgement please?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:05:46 GMT


Aside from my linux woes, could someone reply to the fact that they read this 
post? I've posted several times to this group with never any response what so 
ever. I have no idea if this is getting posted. ? ? 

tia

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From: "Michael Rodgers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Subject: Re: ATI RADEON DOES *NOT* WORK WITH LINUX
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:00:17 -0000

"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Alternatively forget Linux because its crap. The reason Microsoft has a
> > monopoly is basically because windows is flexable and doesnt require a
> > degree to use, where as Linux is unforgiving, unsupported and hideous.
>
> Summing it up: linux does what *you* want.

Except run Radeon Video Drivers? And Counter-Strike? And Project IGI? And
Half-Life? And Team Fortress? And....

> > Q. why buy a radeon?
> > A. To play games.
> > Q. How many good games run on Linux?
> > A. About 3
> >
>
> Q. Why buy a PC
> A. To work with.
> Q. What OS enables you to work with a PC
> A. ........

Windows 2000 Professional.
--
Michael Rodgers, Plymouth UK
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From: "Robert Lock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: startx doesn't start X
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:08:15 +0200

After months of relatively painless use of Mandrake 7.0, the following has
occurred:

type "startx" <cr>

Screen blanks out for approx 20 sec and then returns this -

_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect. Can't connect: errno = 111
Failed to set default font path 'unix/:1'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

This problem showed up today for no apparent reason since yesterday I spent
quite a lot of time working in the X environment and shut the system down
normally. No errors or warnings were generated on startup today except the
above.

I really have no idea where to start looking for the cause or the repair of
this so
any help is welcome.

Thanks

Rob



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