Linux-Setup Digest #393, Volume #20 Wed, 10 Jan 01 16:13:10 EST
Contents:
Can anyone tell me how to uninstall Apache ? ("Jon Leadbeater")
Re: HELP! : mysterious ext2 undeletable directory (Robert Lynch)
Re: Problem with RedHat 6.2 and Promise Ultra100 (ATA100) (Pavlos Parissis)
Re: Problem with RedHat 6.2 and Promise Ultra100 (ATA100) (Pavlos Parissis)
printing ("Zayin Krige")
Re: setup News server ("Ian Jones")
Re: Kernel 2.4.0 & modules (Markus Kossmann)
Re: setup News server (Beggar)
Re: setup News server ("Jason from The Workshop")
Can't begin install of Mandrake 7.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can't begin install of Mandrake 7.2 (moonie;))
Re: load modules on bootup (Brandon)
Re: HELP newbie: which distro for low-end PC? (moonie;))
Kernel 2.4 ("Gilles")
NEWBIE QUESTION: Linux issues and performance tuning ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Secure Password Authentication and Leafnode ("GranpaK")
TurboLinux Network Printing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can anyone tell me how to uninstall Apache ? (H.Bruijn)
Re: Partitioning For Install (Tim Moore)
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From: "Jon Leadbeater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can anyone tell me how to uninstall Apache ?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:14:00 -0000
I am wanting to set up Macromedia Generator on RedHat 6.2. I have done the
install and it hasn't worked. Things get garbled on the screen.
Generator installed JServ and Tomcat had already been installed previously
( think this may be why generator isn't working ).
Anyway, is it as simple as deleting the folders ?
Any help gratefully received
Jon Leadbeater
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: HELP! : mysterious ext2 undeletable directory
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:35:28 GMT
aflinsch wrote:
>
> Robert Lynch wrote:
> >
> > Dorin Ioan MARINCA wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I need help for the following problem:
> > >
> > > Context: RH 6.2 original kernel
> > > First symptom: ext2 root filesystem full.
> > > I have searched for a big file (+10M).
> > > Result: a (mysterious) junkbuster (web browsing filter) log directory:
> > > /var/log/junkbuster : size +11M
> > > 'drwxr--r-- 2 73 73 11067392 Jan 8 14:04 junkbuster'
> > > the directory and not the contents!!!
> > > a 'ls' inside blocks...
> > > a '# rm -rf /var/log/junkbuster' run in a infinite loop.
> > >
> > > How can I remove this file?
> > >
> > > I have tried (forced) fsck without results. No bad blocks also...
> > >
> > > Thanks for any sugestions...
> > >
> > > d.i.m.
> >
> > I had this problem, which I decided was due to junkbuster's
> > logrotate being wonky. I filed a bug report at the junkbuster
> > site, which was never answered.
> >
> > When I looked inside the directory (not easy!) I found that it
> > was a jungle logrotate .gz's, like:
> >
> > junkbuster.1.gz.3.gz.1.gz...
>
> I had the same problem, it was about a year ago. I think that the
> logrotate entry has been fixed, as I have reinstalled & updated
> several times since then and nolonger have the problem
>
> >
> > I wish I could give you some hints, but the delete of this
> > monster was a nightmare, for example, doing some step on the way
> > to delete I hung my system after which I had to boot with a
> > recovery disk and my recall of what I did is dim.
> >
>
> My favorite method of deleting all entries in a directory (when the
> number of entries is very large) is
>
> tar cfv /dev/null /path/of/directory/to/empty --remove-files >
> /dev/null
>
> and then just rmdir the directory if required....
This looks like a good trick; I did something like this myself,
but wound up thereby hanging my system. Some time spent with
Tom's root-boot disk saved the day however. I wish my notes were
a little more coherent so I could say what actually _did_ work
with the root-boot.
Bob L.
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Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Pavlos Parissis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Problem with RedHat 6.2 and Promise Ultra100 (ATA100)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:41:37 +0200
Hello dan,
Look my post "Re: asus a7v promise controller prob booting" on 9/01 in
comp.os.linux.hardware
Pavlos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I love having the feeling of being in control
while i have the sensation of speed
The surfer of life
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From: Pavlos Parissis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Problem with RedHat 6.2 and Promise Ultra100 (ATA100)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:42:00 +0200
Hello dan,
Look my post "Re: asus a7v promise controller prob booting" on 9/01 in
comp.os.linux.hardware
Pavlos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I love having the feeling of being in control
while i have the sensation of speed
The surfer of life
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: printing
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:42:16 +0200
I have a HP laserjet6L as a samba shared printer of my linux box. When i
print a large document (>30 pages) it pauses printing after about 30pages
and i have to use lpc to resume printing. this only happened after I
installed kernel 2.4.0.
Why would this be so?
--
/*-------------------------------------------
Zayin Krige
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.redpoint.co.za
Redpoint Solutions (Pty) Ltd
Custom Software Solutions
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From: "Ian Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:45:15 GMT
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"Beggar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> How can I setup a News without a feeder server? Since when I check
> the howto, it always said we need a feeder but my ISP don't have a
> news server itself.
Try out leafnode. It is very easy to set up, and it will only cache
groups that you are actually reading.
http://www.leafnode.org/
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.0 & modules
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:08:17 +0100
Zayin Krige wrote:
>
> when i make modules_install, it puts my modules in directories other than
> the normal /lib/modules/2.4.0
> also, modprobe is not pick up my parport.o and lp.o
>
Did you read ( /usr/src/linux/)Documentation/Changes and did you upgrade
modutils to the recommended version ?
--
Markus Kossmann
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From: Beggar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:05:55 +0800
but how a ISP setup a news server? where they feed from?
or is that inn can have no feeder at all?
thanks~~
Ian Jones wrote:
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> "Beggar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > How can I setup a News without a feeder server? Since when I check
> > the howto, it always said we need a feeder but my ISP don't have a
> > news server itself.
>
> Try out leafnode. It is very easy to set up, and it will only cache
> groups that you are actually reading.
> http://www.leafnode.org/
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From: "Jason from The Workshop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:24:38 -0600
you can setup a news server yourself, but be warned. A decent news server
is going to eat up no less then a full T1 and almost 400gig of space. I
would suggest using www.supernews.com they have very nice, full feeds and
they are cheap.
--
Jason
www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't begin install of Mandrake 7.2
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:24:38 GMT
I have just purchased a new pc with the following spec:
Athlon 900 processor
256mb 133mhz sdram
40gb hdd
Ati radeon 32mb sdr graphics card
Creative sb live sound card
I have the hdd split into two roughly 20gb partitions (c + d drives)
I would like to install Linux Mandrake 7.2 on the d drive and dual
boot, but as soon as I reach the partition section of the install I get
a message stating 'no hard disk drives were found in your system.
please check your hardware'.
I sucessfully installed Mandrake 7.1 on my old 166 pentium system.
What could be causing this message?
Any help appreciated.
Mark Douthwaite.
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't begin install of Mandrake 7.2
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:34:15 -0500
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have just purchased a new pc with the following spec:
>Athlon 900 processor
>256mb 133mhz sdram
>40gb hdd
>Ati radeon 32mb sdr graphics card
>Creative sb live sound card
>I have the hdd split into two roughly 20gb partitions (c + d drives)
>I would like to install Linux Mandrake 7.2 on the d drive and dual
>boot, but as soon as I reach the partition section of the install I get
>a message stating 'no hard disk drives were found in your system.
>please check your hardware'.
>I sucessfully installed Mandrake 7.1 on my old 166 pentium system.
>What could be causing this message?
>Any help appreciated.
>
>Mark Douthwaite.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com
>http://www.deja.com/
Could be a problem if your trying to use an ATA/100 controller. You won't see
any benefit with using ATA/100 over ATA/66 or probably ATA/33 unless your HD
can transfer faster than 33 (only a few of the fastest 7200rpm drives will at
this point) or if your using RAID. If you are using an ATA/100 controller you
might want to try the ATA/66/33 controller.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
(Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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AIM mooniesdl3
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From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: load modules on bootup
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:46 -0500
John Peach wrote:
> If you really want them to load at boot time, why have you built them as
> modules? Include them in the kernel......
If I download a device driver, like say NVidia's video driver, how do I add it to
the kernel instead of just build it as a module?
Brandon
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP newbie: which distro for low-end PC?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:45:23 -0500
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Alessandro Magni wrote:
>I want to set up a minimal Linux PC (low-end Pentium), to use as a
>backup server.
>No fancy stuff, no X, just network and some backup util (rsync maybe).
>I DONT want to download a huge 5-CD-set with useless stuff:
>which distro you think is OK?
>
>Thank for any help!
>
> Alessandro
I have got Mandrake 7.2 on my P133 router/firewall/Apache/PHP4/MySQL server.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
(Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Gilles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.4
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:05:54 +0100
I have compiled the kernel and done the 'make bzdisk' from another machine.
But I don't have anything yet on the disk of the target machine (no root, no
swap, nothing ...), just Windows 95.
How can I do to install Kernel 2.4 on the target machine from this bootable
floppy (make bzdisk) ?
Thanks for help
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NEWBIE QUESTION: Linux issues and performance tuning
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:51:12 GMT
Hi there,
I just seriously started my Linux experience couple of weeks ago.
Here're some issues I've got:
1. Not a single distro(Redhat 6.2, 7.0, OpenLinux 2.4, even the Tech.
Preview, TurboLinux) can work with my ROD HOT RAID IDE card. Looks
like I have to wait until I get kernel 2.4. well, fine.
2. Video refresh rate. My 17" monitor works well with Windows family at
85MHz refresh rate 1024x768 24bit color. But not a single linux set it
for me automatically. My screen is always curved using default setting.
Finally I found help from some other people to calc MODELINE values by
hand, and got it work. My question is why this could happen? I believe
lot of people are using a 17" monitor at 1024x768 24bit 85Hz now, why
Linux cannot set it correctly by default?
3. X-Window is too slow. Both gnome and KDE. My machine is PII 300 with
300M RAM. Should be a neat one, right? It's so slow that even mouse can
not follow my move, not to mention windows, menu, etc. But for this
issue, I won't complain about Linux. I'm sure there're lot of
performance tuneup I have missed. So do you have any suggestion about
it? One thing I noticed in TurboLinux 6.0 is I always see couple of
rvxt processes are taking about 25% CPU time respectively. That's why
my CPU usage is always at about 75%. I'm using a TurboxLinux for
Simplified Chinese now.
4. If anybody is familiar with TurboLinux for Chinese, can you tell me
if it's possible to upgrade to XFree 4.1 and KDE 2.0 without breaking
Chinese environment?
5. It's a nightmare to install Oracle 8i for Linux on Redhat 6.2 and
OpenLinux 2.4 server. Never succeded. DB2 for Linux is much easier, but
it's way too slow compare with running on Windows NT on the same
machine. Populating a table of about 10Million fields took at least 10
times slower on Linux than on NT. Maybe, it's another performance
tuning issue.
Thanks in advance for any hints and suggestion!
Li
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From: "GranpaK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Secure Password Authentication and Leafnode
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:14:54 -0500
Hi All,
I have a laptop running RedHat v6.2 and leafnode v1.9.17. I have a news
server that I want to access which requires a password and username. I can
connect to the news server with Microsoft Outlook in which I have selected
"Logon using Secure Password Authentication".
My configuration file only has the server, username, password, expire, and
newsgroups lines. When I connect to the server with fetchnews -vvv -n, I
can see it connecting followed by a disconnect. I would assume that the
remote news server is disconnecting me. This probably has to do with the
Secure Password Authentication requirement of the news server. So how do I
configure linux to get in? I am trying to get all of the headers and bodies
of the posts from several newsgroups on the news server to my local
harddrive where I can disconnect my modem and then read and post at my
leisure.
Anyone have any ideas?
--
GranpaK
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(remove NOSPAM to email me!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TurboLinux Network Printing
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:52:23 GMT
Hi
I fixed my kernal issue from before, just a small change was needed to
the LILO.conf file. I am having serious difficulty setting up TurboLinux
to connect to a windows NT network based printer. When I run
turboprintcfg, i do not know what to put for 'netbios name' or 'printer
qeue name', it does not seem to want to work. I have updated the
turboprintcfg utility just today as well. Samba and LPD are set up and
running.
Thanks
Bobby
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me how to uninstall Apache ?
Date: 10 Jan 2001 21:05:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:14:00 -0000, Jon Leadbeater allegedly wrote:
>I am wanting to set up Macromedia Generator on RedHat 6.2. I have done the
>install and it hasn't worked. Things get garbled on the screen.
>Generator installed JServ and Tomcat had already been installed previously
>( think this may be why generator isn't working ).
>Anyway, is it as simple as deleting the folders ?
>Any help gratefully received
Depends.
When you install things from packages with the package management tools
it best to uninstall them with the package managementtool as well as
most programmes have files in more then one place. In most cases simply
rpm -e program is enough. Sometimes data isn't removed (for instances
removing the webserver doesn't remove all html pages).
When you download something in source code or as a zip archive things
are first unpacked in a single directory which contains all files. Now
that you can uninstall by simply doing rm -r /dir/ .
Now when you used an install script like "make install" things again
have been put all over. Hope there is a make uninstall or a make remove
option, otherwise you'll need to find and remove things by hand.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Partitioning For Install
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:06:04 GMT
Way too big. Try this for a start:
/ 25-50MB (bigger if >3 kernels)
swap 1-3 x memory (bigger if small memory)
/boot n/a (part of /)
/usr 2GB
/var 500MB
/opt 1GB
/tmp 500MB
/home 1-2GB
/spare 4GB
- Big partitions are more effort to manage than smaller partitions.
- Backups, file system checks, directory listings, file deletes and
restores from backup take much longer.
- Partitions with smaller cylinder numbers are faster than larger
cylinder numbers. The difference between the outside (low) and inside
(high) is about 50%:
# fdisk -l /dev/hdc
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc5 902 1027 1012095 83 Linux
/dev/hdc7 14 652 5132736 83 Linux
# hdparm -tT /dev/hdc5
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.20 seconds =106.67 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 6.53 seconds = 9.80 MB/sec
# hdparm -tT /dev/hdc7
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.14 seconds =112.28 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.17 seconds = 15.35 MB/sec
- Use smaller partitions and symbolic links (ln(1)) to rearrange
structure:
# ls -l /opt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Oct 9 19:13 /opt ->
/big2/opt
- No need to partition the entire disk up front.
- Use a 2k or 4k block size for larger partitions (mke2fs(8)).
- Use a pair of smaller drives on separate controllers rather than a
single large drive if possible. System performance for swap,
application launch and data I/O is much better spread over separate
controllers, plus there's less I/O wait time.
Here's a working system based on 2x8GB UDMA-33 drives. Dual boots linux
and W95, runs Vmware, StarOffice, email, several tools for
mp3/CD-R/graphics manipulation, a robust RH 6.2 installation and several
different kernel trees. The /kits? areas are sources, the /big? areas
are audio processing and Vmware virtual disks:
# df
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 46636 35643 8585 81% /
/dev/hda6 2016016 1437020 476584 75% /usr
/dev/hda8 124427 17964 100039 15% /var
/dev/hda9 521748 604 494640 0% /tmp
/dev/hda10 995680 701244 284156 71% /home
/dev/hdc7 5112192 461496 4650696 9% /big
/dev/hdc6 1968372 1818172 150200 92% /big2
/dev/hda13 1009972 724188 285784 72% /kits1
/dev/hdc5 1010004 859944 150060 85% /kits2
# fdisk -l /dev/hd{a,c}
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1027 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 62 497983+ 6 FAT16
/dev/hda2 63 1027 7751362+ 5 Extended
/dev/hda5 * 63 68 48163+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda6 69 323 2048256 83 Linux
/dev/hda7 324 334 88326 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda8 335 350 128488+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda9 351 416 530113+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda10 417 544 1028128+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda11 545 646 819283+ 6 FAT16
/dev/hda12 647 901 2048256 6 FAT16
/dev/hda13 902 1027 1012063+ 83 Linux
Disk /dev/hdc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1027 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 1 13 104391 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdc2 14 1027 8144955 5 Extended
/dev/hdc5 902 1027 1012095 83 Linux
/dev/hdc6 653 901 2000029+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc7 14 652 5132736 83 Linux
# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda6 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda8 /var ext2 defaults 1 4
/dev/hda9 /tmp ext2 defaults 1 4
/dev/hda10 /home ext2 defaults 1 3
/dev/hdc7 /big ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc6 /big2 ext2 defaults 1 3
/dev/hda13 /kits1 ext2 defaults 1 5
/dev/hdc5 /kits2 ext2 defaults 1 4
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdc1 swap swap pri=1 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap pri=1 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 defaults,rw,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/cdr /cdr iso9660 defaults,rw,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/sda1 /zip ext2 noauto,user,suid,defaults,rw 0 0
/dev/fd0 /A vfat noauto,user,defaults,rw 0 0
/dev/sda4 /Z vfat noauto,suid,user,defaults,rw 0 0
/dev/hda1 /C vfat noauto,user,defaults,rw 0 0
/dev/hda11 /E vfat noauto,suid,user,defaults,rw 0 0
/dev/hda12 /F vfat noauto,user,defaults,rw 0 0
> the results I take it there's no definitive answers. Generally, here's what
> was suggested for installing (Caldera) Linux on my 46 GB HD:
>
> /(root) 500MB-10GB
> Swap 128MB-1GB
> /boot 10MB-25MB
> /opt 2-3GB
> /home 2GB-As Big As You Can Make It
> /temp 6GB
> /usr Big
> /var ?
>
> Now another question comes to mind: When I install programs, are they
> going to "know" where these directories/partitions are, or am I gonna have
> to "show" them? The same question holds true for uninstalling programs.
> Where are the majority of programs going to install? Oh yeah, and I take it
They "know". /usr, /opt or /usr/local.
> Oh yeah, and I take it
> that a program only needs to be installed once, and not for each individual
> user? From what I've been reading, this point is somewhat unclear to me....
Correct. In some cases (eg- StarOffice, Netscape) there is a small
per-user component.
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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