Linux-Setup Digest #396, Volume #20              Thu, 11 Jan 01 00:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: kernel-2.4.0 on Linux-Mandrake 7.2 ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: setup News server (jens)
  Re: which LINUX to choose (Dan Stephenson)
  Re: directory become file after mount (Paul Colquhoun)
  Ethernet card setup (Kevin Davis�)
  Re: How to d/l POP3 mail & serve it as IMAP? (Jeremy Taylor)
  help with running X-win32 with RedHat 7.0 (Hung Ngoc Lai)
  Re: Newbie SCSI user needs help with CD Burner (Lewis)
  X Windows Questions
  need NAT help please................ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Partition Magic 6  +  Redhat Linux 7 (Lewis)

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Date: 10 Jan 2001 20:41:46 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel-2.4.0 on Linux-Mandrake 7.2

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to e.l.newman ;

> Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Do older gcc's (kgcc) know about the Athlon/Duron/K7 option?

> Hi,

> I started with a fairly standard RedHat 7.0 system (upgraded to
> gcc-2.96.54) with kernel-2.1.18, which compiled out of the box.
> However, when I attempted to compile the 2.4.0 kernel, either with
> or without the ac4 patch, specifying the Athlon CPU gave me the
> problem reported by the original poster. So then I RTFM and used
> kgcc (2.91.66, egcs-1.1.2), but with exactly the same outcome.
> Fishing around in the error messages suggested to me that they might
> be specific to the selected CPU type, so I "down-graded" this to
> "K6" in xconfig and, lo and behold, everything compiled perfectly
> with kgcc. I haven't yet repeated the experiment with my stock gcc.

> On the face of it, this suggests that, if kgcc has troubling
> grokking the configuration options for a K7/Athlon, then so does
> gcc-2.96.54. I don't  know whether an even newer gcc might work.

RH has since released a slightly newer version of gcc, but when I tried
to apply it to the latest ghostscript, it failed rather miserably, so I
re-installed gcc-2.95.2 and all its siblings which then worked.  OTOH, I
only have a K6-III/etc, so I'm still stuck in 586 land.  I suggested
that possibility because the athlon has only been around for about 9
months, and the gestation period for such additions to gcc seem to be
measured in years.

> I'm afraid that this more or less exhausts my fault-finding
> capacity, though I would like to understand more before reporting it
> as a possible bug (in a kernel configuration/header file or in the
> compiler ??).

Me too, but it sounds like you've found the magic asperin bottle
anyway.  It might be a few percent slower, but at least it works.

Cheers, Gene
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From: jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:31:23 GMT

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:24:38 -0600, "Jason from The Workshop"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>you can setup a news server yourself, but be warned.  A decent news server
>is going to eat up no less then a full T1 and almost 400gig of space.  I
>would suggest using www.supernews.com   they have very nice, full feeds and
>they are cheap.


Doing a quick calculation here, a T1 running flat out will give you
somewhere around 12 gigs per day. I believe the current usenet stream
has an average 80 gigs per day volume. In other words, you will need a
minimum of a T3 connection. There is a major additional problem though
- news feed is UDP (???) traffic meaning it is just spurted out and no
acknowledgement happens. To get a decent feed, you have to have a
significant overcapacity connection in order to keep up with the feed
during busy times. Add to that the fact that you should have two or
three sources to fill in the holes in one feed and all of a sudden it
is a real BIG money thing.
On a related matter, I was shocked to find out that even with a T1
there is a fairly low traffic limit (I was told 100 gig /month but
that obviously depends on the source of your feed) and the cost of
news traffic, even forgetting the cost of the T3 or whatever becomes
enormous. It is surprising that commercial news feeds like Supernews
can make a living at all.

Jens

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From: Dan Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,at.linux,ger.pc.linux
Subject: Re: which LINUX to choose
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:38:41 -0600

I'm sure you'll get lots of advice; here are my 2 cents.

I like SuSE because it is RPM based, I could get my graphics working the 
best (I originally had awful wiggly graphics), and has a boatload of stuff 
on DVD (has 6 CDs too).  And a good manual.

I recommend you find some kind of Linux user's group, if possible, and get 
sampler CDs from them and try several out before you spending the time it 
(unfortunately) takes to make any distribution feel at home with all the 
quirks about getting your hardware and preferences set up just right.  I 
tried TurboLinux, RedHat, Mandrake, Corel, and Caldera and decided SuSE was 
best overall for me.  I'm glad a co-worker is the sampler CD guru at the 
local Linux user's group and had all the CDs for me to tryout.  FWIW, if I 
could have gotten the ppp working in Caldera (mysteriously, it worked in 
the kernal the installer used and left you in after you finished 
installing, but not the one you got on reboot), I might have stuck with 
that one since the sound was configured automatically.  SuSE does have a 
nice config, thought, called Yast2 which sets that, printers, and RPMs of 
the install.  It is nice in that if an RPM requires another, Yast2 knows 
this and selects everything you need.

Well, enough rambling,

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: directory become file after mount
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:47:25 GMT

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:43:16 +0000 (UTC), Li Hau-Bin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|
|please help me,
|
|     i try to mount a zip drive on /mnt/zip
|
|but after i mount /mnt/zip
|the directory /mnt/zip become a file
|
|before mount the directory look like:
|drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Jan 10 12:25 zip/
|
|/dev/hda1              4052132   3266279    576207  85% /
|/dev/hda5              8603615        13   8157399   0% /data-a
|/dev/hdd5             12873907    529108  11675695   4% /data1
|/dev/hdc5             12877498     63220  12144995   1% /data2
|
|after mount the /mnt/zip become a file:
|-rwxr-xr-x   0 root     root      8746639 Jan 10 03:01 zip*
|
|Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
|/dev/hda1              4052132   3266278    576208  85% /
|/dev/hda5              8603615        13   8157399   0% /data-a
|/dev/hdd5             12873907    528580  11676223   4% /data1
|/dev/hdc5             12877498     63220  12144995   1% /data2
|/dev/hdb1                95167        13     90240   0% /mnt/zip
|
|what's wrong with this??
|
|can anyone help me please?


What does the /mnt/zip line in /etc/fstab look like?


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From: Kevin Davis� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ethernet card setup
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:51:54 GMT

I've got a Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet card that I am trying to set up.
The card seems to show up in the Networking Control Panel applet as
eth0 but I can't seem to get it to start with dhcp.  I am of the
understanding that the "tulip" driver needs to be associated with the
device but I can't figure out where to go to to set this up.  Any help
is appreciated.  I'm running Redhat 6.1

Thanks
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What could possibly go wrong?

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From: Jeremy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to d/l POP3 mail & serve it as IMAP?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:52:40 +1300


thank you for your assistance!

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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with running X-win32 with RedHat 7.0
Date: 11 Jan 2001 03:53:33 GMT

Hi Everyone,
I am having problem with running X-win32 on Microsoft Windows 
connecting to my RedHat Linux 7.0 kernel version 2.4.  I also have
another RedHat 6.1 machine with kernel 2.2.18 and I do NOT have
problem connecting to this RedHat 6.1 machine using X-win32.  
First, let me describe the steps that I use to connect to the RedHat
6.1 box:

1) On the Linux box, I edit the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess
           file by putting in the IP address of the Microsoft windows
           machine the will use X-win32 to connect to the linux box to run
           X,
2)Start xdm in the linux using root account and xdm starts with
         With a nice GUI,

3)On the Microsoft windows machine, I set X-config to connect
          to the linux box using XDMP,

4)Start X-win32 and everything works like a charm.

On the RedHat 7.0 box, I perform the same step that I did with the 
RedHat 6.1 box.   I also perform the same procedure with X-config
on Microsoft windows machine with the exception of changing the 
IP address for XDMP because both Linux boxes have different IP 
addresses. This time X-win32 does not work with RedHat 7.0 box.
I notice that the xdm GUI interface for RedHat 7.0 is different.  It 
comes with the Xfree86 Project banner.  Anyone has run into similar
situations, please help me with this one.  I would like to install
RedHat 7.0 so that I can compile kernel 2.4 with it.  It seems that I would
have to upgrade a few things (modutils module comes to mind) before I
can compile kernel 2.4 for RedHat 6.1.   I would rather install RH7.0 and
then compile kernel 2.4; however, I need to have this issue resolved.

Many thanks.
David 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis)
Subject: Re: Newbie SCSI user needs help with CD Burner
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 04:16:20 GMT

Folks,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I had a little chance to play around with
adding the modules, but for some reason I do not have the "sr_mod"
module.

But alas, that will have to be another night.  I barely got on the
computer tonight to say thanks.

Thanks again,

RJ


On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 23:06:21 -0600, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
>
>http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/CD-Writing/CD-Writing.sgml

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:35:26 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Read http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html for background
>material.
>It involves building ide-scsi emulation into your kernel.  Yeech!!! :)
>I only build linux kernels when I absolutely have to such as supporting
>my
>sound card.
>I found it easier to use the ide-scsi emulation modules.  Here are the
>instructions.
>
>$ su -
>password: <scret>
># # RH6.2 is conf.modules RH7.0 is modules.conf
># cp /etc/modules.conf /etc/modules.conf.bak
># vi /etc/modules.conf  # use your favorite editor to edit modules.conf
>
>Modify modules.conf for your CDROM writer, my CDROM is located at
>/dev/hdc
>
>Here is my conf.modules
>
># --- add this to your conf.modules  -------
>alias scd0 sr_mod
>alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
>options ide-cd ignore=hdc
># --- end -------
>
># cp /etc/rc.d/rc.local  /etc/rc.d/rc.local.bak
># vi  /etc/rc.d/rc.local
>
># --Put this at the end of the rc.local---
># load ide-scsi module
>insmod ide-scsi
>#---end---------
>
># cp /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bak
># vi /etc/lilo.conf
>
>put the append statement for /etc/lilo.conf your cdrom
>'append="hdX=ide-scsi"' and run lilo.
>Here is /etc/lilo.conf, my CDROM is located at /dev/hdc
>
>boot=/dev/fd0
>timeout=100
>message=/boot/message
>prompt
>image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-6.1.1
>        label=linux
>        root=/dev/hda4
>        append="hdc=ide-scsi"
>        read-only
>
># /sbin/lilo
>
>Now relink the /dev/cdrom to your scsi emulation of your cdwriter
>
># mv /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom.bak
># ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom
>
>Reboot.  (I don't know how to restart with new conf.modules and rc.local
>
>in linux :( )
>
>Run dmesg to see if your scsi emulation is working after the reboot
>
># dmesg
>scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
>scsi : 1 host.
>  Vendor: HP        Model: CD-Writer+ 8100   Rev: 1.0g
>  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
>sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
>Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
>
>
>Run cdrecord to see if you scsi emulation is working also.
>
># cdrecord -scanbus
>Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
>Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
>scsibus0:
>        0,0,0     0) 'HP      ' 'CD-Writer+ 8100 ' '1.0g' Removable
>CD-ROM
>
>        0,1,0     1) *
>        0,2,0     2) *
>        0,3,0     3) *
>        0,4,0     4) *
>        0,5,0     5) *
>        0,6,0     6) *
>        0,7,0     7) *
>
>I hope it works for you, it works for me


On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:49:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis)
wrote:

>Folks,
>
>I am trying to configure my CD Burner (an HP 7200i) on my system.  It
>is on an IDE interface.
>
>I have seen on past posts that you have to use SCSI compatibility
>drivers in order for the program "cdrecord" to work.  
>
>(I assume for "xcdroast" as well?)
>
>Anyway, one of the posts said that you could load the appropriate
>module by saying putting 
>
>insmod ide-scsi
>
>in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
>
>I tried this, and the "cdrecord -scanbus" command did not find any
>scsi devices.
>
>I also saw a post that you might need to add the line 
>
>"hdd=ide-scsi"
>
>I got no errors, but the cdrecord SCSI scan did not find anything.
>
>(hdd is correct, as I have a regular CD rom as master on the secondary
>IDE channel, and the 7200 as a slave on the secondary IDE.)
>
>I also saw on a post that you may have to recompile a kernel.  Now I
>believe I remember how to do that, but I did not enjoy that.  Someone
>told me there was an X tool that allowed you to change only what you
>needed in the kernel.  
>
>Does anyone know that was?
>
>Will this fix my problem?  
>
>What am I forgetting?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>RJ
>
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X Windows Questions
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 04:30:08 -0000

I have two questions as a newbie.  First, I got a different monitor for my 
linux box and want to make sure that it will work.  It is a KDS - model 
VS-9 17 inch monitor.  What do I have to do to change from my old Acer 33D?
Second, on my network I have a Windows box - yeah I know - that I would 
like to run an XTerm sometimes - make things easier in a cramped space I 
call my computer room.  The question is how to tranfer an XTerm session or 
bring one up on my Windows machine?  Will I be able to run a KDE or Gnome 
desktop in that session?  
I'm currently on Red Hat 6.1.
Thanks.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: need NAT help please................
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 04:43:43 GMT

I am trying to add the following NAT to my redhat 6.2 linux server:
ip route add nat 10.1.20.207 via 10.1.50.207

I get the following error:
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong here? All I want to do
is to be able to access a server (ip 10.1.50.207) which is behind the
linux box using the ip 10.1.20.207 from the outside of the linux box.
thanks.

PS: I have ip fowarding enabled.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Magic 6  +  Redhat Linux 7
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 04:59:24 GMT

Tim,

        First, go out to PowerQuest (www.powerquest.com) and look at
their FAQs, support, etc.  They had something real close to what you
are asking about.  (I know, cause I hope to get a new computer soon,
and am wanting to do the same thing you are, except with WinNT4.0 and
Win9x and RedHat 6.2 or 7).

        Since PM6.0 is their newest, you should be able to call their
technical support (I don't have that luxury, as PM4.0 is no longer
supported, I believe), and ask how to do this.  (If you do find out,
please let me know by either posting to this group or emailing me
(please remove the NoSpam from the address)).

        I believe in answer to your post, the best way would be to
clear out some space on one of your partitions, and let PM6.0 convert
the empty space to a Linux extfs2 partition (see my experience below,
though!)  Then, use LILO or BootMagic to choose which system boots up
(or use a Linux boot diskette).

        I have only done this with Win98 and Partition Magic v4.0 on a
couple of computers, but here it is for what it's worth:

        Things were pretty simple on 1 machine (a P166), as I had two
6GB hard-drives.  I put Win98 on the master, and Linux (Redhat 6.1) on
the slave (both on primary IDE channel).

        I simply ran PM 4.0 to format the 2nd drive with extfs2.  I
then installed Linux, in "custom" mode (NOT server or workstation
mode), as this gives you the opportunity the place LILO on the Linux
partition, rather on the master boot record on the primary drive (I
assume it would be the same if it were all on the same physical
drive).

        I then installed Boot Magic 4.0 (or at least the Boot Magic
that came with PM 4.0) on Win98, and let it take over the MBR.  From
then on, I can choose who to boot from.

        I assume you could skip the Boot Magic, and just use LILO, but
I had found LILO a little confusing before, and therefore used
BootMagic.

        On another computer I have, I had a 20GB hard-drive.  I made
two logical partitions for Win98 (FAT32), both with 10GB.  I then used
PM4.0 to take away some space from the 2nd partition (D:) to create a
partition for Linux.

        Now I can't remember if it was here, or when I installed
BootMagic, but somewhere along the line I remember I couldn't continue
because I had made my first partition greater than 8GB.  Since I had
Linux on the old P166, I left things alone, and planned to fix this
later (that was a year and a half ago :-) ).

        Anyway, you may have the same problem from reading your post.
Maybe PM6.0 had got around this problem.  Also, with PM4.0, I had
problems with using it from Windows.  I always had to use their rescue
diskette.  Again, maybe they have fixed this.

        Good luck to you, and again, please let me know if you do this
successfully.

RJ

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:14:48 -0900, "tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How would one go about repartitioning to install Red Hat Linux 7, when I
>currently have Win2k on the first 20 gigs of my hard drive, and WinME on the
>last 10 gigs.  both are FAT32 partitions..
>
>thanks in advance to any help!
>
>



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