Linux-Setup Digest #430, Volume #20 Mon, 15 Jan 01 21:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: LILO doesn't boot ("benjamin Nabet")
TV under Linux on ATI AIW128 32 MO AGP. (root)
Re: HELP: Realtek 8139B Ehternet problem on SuSE 6.4/7 ("Roger Lawrence")
What starts Configure Desktop in KDE? How to Restore Control Center? (Jason Bond)
"xset dpms force off" (Jason Bond)
Re: HELP: Realtek 8139B Ehternet problem on SuSE 6.4/7
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: grub Qs (Timothy Washington)
Re: kernel 2.4 download: (Steven Leuty)
Re: kernel 2.4 download: (Steven Leuty)
Re: Linux Newbie soon to be onboard ("Ben")
Netscape bookmarks (Paul Pygeon)
Re: IDE CD-RW vs ATAPI Zip drive (E J)
Re: Sound Blaster Live on Redhat 7 ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Setup Question: I want to know the best way to setup an SMTP spooler for
Exchange ("Rich Matheisen [MVP]")
Kernel 2.4.0 and PPP (Steve Martin)
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From: "benjamin Nabet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO doesn't boot
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:41:24 +0100
i've got the same problem .
Install RH6.2 lilo
bye
"Meul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message news:
S8i76.134633$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> hello,
> I've installed win me on my system, and trying to install linux redhat 7.0
> on top of that. I tried everything but my pc keeps booting win me. I have
> already installed lilo 5 times on MBR and still there comes no lilo while
> booting. Any ideas to install lilo?
> thanks
>
>
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux.mandrake,fr.comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: TV under Linux on ATI AIW128 32 MO AGP.
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:13:30 +0100
How can I proceed to install all drivers & software to watch TV on Linux
with the following material :
ATI All In Wonder 128 32 Mo AGP.
Mandrake 7.2 distrib.
What XFree do I need : XFree86 3.3.6 or XFree86 4.0.x ?
Thanks.
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From: "Roger Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HELP: Realtek 8139B Ehternet problem on SuSE 6.4/7
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:18:41 GMT
I suggest you get a current driver from www.danpex.com Their ADP1100 driver
should work for you.
Good Luck.
McManus Leo ELAN Consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a Realtek PCI card on my ABit 800MHz PC. It works with Mandrake
> 7.2, (but gives many PCI errors), but after installing SuSE it does not
> work. It says it is configured, but nothing is TX'ed when I try and ping
> on my network.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Leo
>
>
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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What starts Configure Desktop in KDE? How to Restore Control Center?
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:29:12 -0500
I've hosed my Control Center in KDE 2...I've erased something(s) and now
the control center window pops up but there are no entires in it. How
does one restore this? The line that I see when I start kcontrol is:
[jbond ~/.kde/share/config (.2 M)] kcontrol -noxim
kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-KControl-Base=true found !
Defaulting to Settings/
Thanks much,
Jason
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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "xset dpms force off"
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:31:05 -0500
It used to with 1 monitor...then I put in another video card and am
using multi head and it no longer works. Thanks much for any help,
Jason
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HELP: Realtek 8139B Ehternet problem on SuSE 6.4/7
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:33:07 +0100
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Roger Lawrence wrote:
> I suggest you get a current driver from www.danpex.com Their ADP1100 driver
> should work for you.
> Good Luck.
Or find and updated network driver at www.scyld.com/network/.
Or upgrade to kernel 2.4.0...
Rasmus B�g Hansen
> McManus Leo ELAN Consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have a Realtek PCI card on my ABit 800MHz PC. It works with Mandrake
> > 7.2, (but gives many PCI errors), but after installing SuSE it does not
> > work. It says it is configured, but nothing is TX'ed when I try and ping
> > on my network.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Leo
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From: Timothy Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: grub Qs
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:49:51 GMT
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Peter Kadau wrote:
> Timothy Washington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> :
> : I installed the GNU GRand Unified Bootlader (GRUB), and there are
> : some basic topics which I could not find in the documentation, like how
> : to boot a linux kernel, or how to boot a windows kernel.
> <SNIP>
> did you check the info-pages on grub ?
> 'info grub'
> <SNIP>
> : but how would I pass in a windows
> : kernel?
> not at all, you'll do "chainloading".
> <SNIP>
> : First of all, theses are my partitions:
> :
> : Windows Partitions hda1 hda3
> which one is the bootable ? i'll assume hda1.
Yes hda1 was the bootable partition
>
> : Linux Partitions hda5 hda6 hda7
> which one is your root-partition ? i'll assume hda5.
>
> furthermore, you need to know where your boot-image resides.
> i'll assume as /boot/vmlinuz in hda5.
> <SNIP>
Right again; hda5 is root, and /boot/vmlinuz is a symbolic link to a
2.2.14 kernel
>
> :
> : Tim
> :
> now, assuming these are the correct settings, just do the following to boot
> windows:
> root (hd0,0)
> chainloader +1
> boot
this worked beautifully to boot windows. I had done this sequence which
also worked:
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot
What is the difference the 'root' and 'rootnoverify' commands and when
would I use the "makeactive command or not?
>
>
> linux:
> root (hd0,4)
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5
> boot
the first command, 'root (hd0, 4)' gave an error of "unrecognized device
string".
BUT, omitting the first command and just executing kernel, then boot,
boots linux nicely!!
>
>
> note the different usages of the keyword 'root'.
> if you managed to boot your linux this (or the other) way - you _have_
> a boot-floppy, don't you ? - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst:
>
> timeout 30 // lots of time to choose
> default 1 // linux is default, isn't it ?
> fallback 0
>
> title windows
> root (hd0,0)
> chainloader +1
>
> title linux
> root (hd0,4)
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5
>
> #EOF menu.lst
I've created this file in the "/boot/grub" directory, but does not seem to
have any effect during boot up. neither linux nor windows is
offered for boot up.
>
>
> no, you _don't_ have to rerun grub to "activate" the settings.
> there's one tweak: if your linux-system uses initrd,
I do not have an initrd file, but I do have: pcinitrd, which creates a
PCMCIA initrd ram disk image - this as well I had trouble configuring.
This may be a moot point however. I main thing is that I can get both OSs
booted with 1 bootloader. So thanks a LOT. Now if only I could get
a prompt for linux or windows and have them boot up w/out 2 or three lines
of commands.
>
> you may have to add this line to your linux-section:
> initrd /boot/initrd.img
> or whatever this file is called on your system.
>
> a bit lengthy, that advice, but still
> HTH
> peter
Thanks for the help - Tim
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Peter Kadau wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Timothy Washington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
<br>:
<br>: I installed the GNU GRand Unified Bootlader
(GRUB), and there are
<br>: some basic topics which I could not find in the documentation, like
how
<br>: to boot a linux kernel, or how to boot a windows kernel.
<br><SNIP>
<br>did you check the info-pages on grub ?
<br>'info grub'
<br><SNIP>
<br>: but how would I pass in a windows
<br>: kernel?
<br>not at all, you'll do "chainloading".
<br><SNIP>
<br>: First of all, theses are my partitions:
<br>:
<br>: Windows Partitions hda1 hda3
<br>which one is the bootable ? i'll assume hda1.</blockquote>
Yes <b>hda1</b> was the bootable partition
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<br>: Linux Partitions hda5 hda6 hda7
<br>which one is your root-partition ? i'll assume hda5.</blockquote>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<br>furthermore, you need to know where your boot-image resides.
<br>i'll assume as /boot/vmlinuz in hda5.
<br><SNIP></blockquote>
Right again; <b>hda5</b> is root, and <b>/boot/vmlinuz</b>
is a symbolic link to a 2.2.14 kernel
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<br>:
<br>: Tim
<br>:
<br>now, assuming these are the correct settings, just do the following
to boot
<br> windows:
<br> root (hd0,0)
<br> chainloader +1
<br> boot</blockquote>
this worked beautifully to boot windows. I had done
this sequence which also worked:
<br><b> rootnoverify (hd0,0)</b>
<br><b> makeactive</b>
<br><b> chainloader +1</b>
<br><b> boot</b>
<p> What is the difference the 'root' and 'rootnoverify'
commands and when would I use the "makeactive command or not?
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<p> linux:
<br> root (hd0,4)
<br> kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5
<br> boot</blockquote>
the first command, 'root (hd0, 4)' gave an error of
"unrecognized device string".
<br> BUT, omitting the first command and just executing
kernel, then boot, boots linux nicely!!
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<p>note the different usages of the keyword 'root'.
<br>if you managed to boot your linux this (or the other) way - you _have_
<br>a boot-floppy, don't you ? - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst:
<p>timeout 30 // lots of time to choose
<br>default 1 // linux is default, isn't it ?
<br>fallback 0
<p>title windows
<br>root (hd0,0)
<br>chainloader +1
<p>title linux
<br>root (hd0,4)
<br>kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5
<p>#EOF menu.lst</blockquote>
I've created this file in the "/boot/grub" directory,
but does not seem to have any effect during boot up. neither linux nor
windows is
<br> offered for boot up.
<br>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<p>no, you _don't_ have to rerun grub to "activate" the settings.
<br>there's one tweak: if your linux-system uses initrd,</blockquote>
I do not have an initrd file, but I do have: <b>pcinitrd</b>,
which creates a PCMCIA <b>initrd</b> ram disk image - this as well I had
trouble configuring.
<br> This may be a moot point however. I main thing is
that I can get <b>both OSs booted with 1 bootloader</b>. So thanks a LOT.
Now if only I could get
<br> a prompt for linux or windows and have them boot
up w/out 2 or three lines of commands.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<br>you may have to add this line to your linux-section:
<br>initrd /boot/initrd.img
<br>or whatever this file is called on your system.
<p>a bit lengthy, that advice, but still
<br>HTH
<br> peter</blockquote>
Thanks for the help - Tim</html>
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From: Steven Leuty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4 download:
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:51:46 -0600
thanks. I'll give it a try.
Scott Nolde wrote:
> If you have linux already isntalled, why not just access the fat16/32
> partition from linux and move it to the linux partition?
>
> There's little reason to involve the zip disk, IMO.
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/hdxn /mnt/winme
>
> mv /mnt/winme/path/linux-2.4.0 /usr/src/.
>
> - Scott
>
> Steven Leuty wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering. Can I download kernel 2.4 from win me on a zip 250 disc
> > and install it on RH Linux machine? I can't get my modem to work at all
> > and I've heard that the modem I'm using is supported in the new kernel.
> > Problem is I can't download it via Linux since my modem doesn't work.
> > steverl
> --
> Never do Windows again with | Scott M. Nolde
> Linux! No streaks, haze or | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> glaze! |
> 6:35pm up 4:50, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.06, 1.03
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From: Steven Leuty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4 download:
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:52:06 -0600
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
Dariball wrote:
> Well sure you can ......
> You just download the tarball and copy it on the 250zip and then you can
> normally use it on your RH system :-)
>
> greetz Dariball
>
> "Steven Leuty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I was wondering. Can I download kernel 2.4 from win me on a zip 250 disc
> > and install it on RH Linux machine? I can't get my modem to work at all
> > and I've heard that the modem I'm using is supported in the new kernel.
> > Problem is I can't download it via Linux since my modem doesn't work.
> > steverl
> >
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From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie soon to be onboard
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:56:32 -0800
Watch out for those 'high-rated' mobos!!
I made the mistake of trying to build a RH7/Apache server with
the KT7 RAID mobo, based on those high ratings. Linux would
never install so I had to drop back and punt: I've converted my
VERY stable EPOX 500mHz K6II mobo machine to the server,
and turned this one into my desktop machine. At this writing, it's
finally stable enough to go 2 - 4 hours between crashes, but that's
after multiple Win98 reinstalls, plus the original attempts to load
RH7, and the subsequent attempt to get Win2K going, and after
going to beta BIOS loads on the Abit mobo.
All those wonderful ratings are from the 'overclocker' community,
where the most important factor about a mobo is how big the bragging
rights are . . . and what the Quake frame rate is. If that's what floats
your boat, I guess that's OK. But I wanted a machine that would actually
WORK for days at a time without attention, and unfortunately, I was
naive about what was being rated in all those reviews. If the KT7
were rated for stability the review would be short: "It sux big ones!".
But, as the kid show says, "you don't have to take my word for it"; just
check out alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit, and spend an hour reading
all the horror stories. What really blew me away is discovering that
a lot of these guys were NOT surprised that they've had to spend 20 - 30
hours to get the board to work right! I guess it's what working on a
'hotrod' was 40 years ago -- those guys didn't actually expect reliable
transportation, either.
BTW, the RAID is NOT hardware RAID (made a sucker of myself on
that one, too), and I've noticed that a few Linux users have not only
gotten the KT7 running, but gotten the RAID going: however it's taken
some advanced tweaking and lots of patching.
Good luck!
Ben
<moonie>; ")" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Don Belmore wrote:
> >Greetings all!
> >
> > Ok, I will be shortly setting up a new machine to run Linux. My
> >goal(hardware) AMD Athalon 1GigHz, 256Meg RAM. Goal(software), Web
> >Browsing(dialup to start, then maybe to DSL or Cable), Some Games, Word
> >Processing, CD-recording(MP3s and Audio), Scanning pics and printing
> >picture quality versions.
> >
> > Basically I want to build up a system that will last me for about
> >3-5 years at least before having to upgrade once again. I want to buy
and
> >build the system myself. I already have purchased a full-tower w/300W
> >power supply and I already own a Mitsubishi DiamondScan 19"
> >monitor(HL6905ATK).
> >
> > It was suggested that I buy the various parts in a particular
> >order since I cannot afford to do it all at once. Buying the items in
> >order of most stability in hardware(ie A CPU case doesn't change all that
> >often, proof the 'beige box' has been around for how long now?<G>). So
> >the Case and Monitor are already done. Next step I believe is the
> >motherboard.
> >
> > I have come to the understanding that there are only a few
> >mohterboards that suuport the Athalon. Based on the critera above, what
> >motherboard would be best suited? Does it even matter as my proposed
> >useage is rather simple compared to some 'power users'? Next would be
the
> >CPU itself, them RAM. After that, I should think the rest of the basic
> >components(Video Card, HD, CD-ROM...)
> >
> > Any suggestions/adivce would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> >
> > Don
>
> The 2 top rated MOBO's for the socket A are the Abit KT7-RAID and the Asus
A7V,
> I am getting ready to order the Asus A7V for myself.
> --
> moonie ;)
>
> Registered Linux User #175104
> (Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
>
> KDE2
> Kernel 2.4.0-test5
> XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
> RAID 0 Striped
> Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
> ICQ #83003404
> AIM mooniesdl3
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>
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From: Paul Pygeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape bookmarks
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:09:27 -0500
Hi all,
Someone can tell me why Netscape (4.76) can't save his bookmarks.
Everything I load Netscape, a message box tell me: error on saving
bookmarks or something else.
Bye
--
Kernel 2.4, LM-7.2
XFree 4.0.2, KDE2.1
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE CD-RW vs ATAPI Zip drive
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:26:18 GMT
You are welcome!!! The reason I asked if that command actually worked,
is that generally zip drives put their
data on 4th partition (i.e. /dev/hdb4 or /dev/sda4) when you get them
preformatted or when you format them
in windozes.
You must have formatted the zip drive differently than normal :)
John Foster wrote:
> E J wrote:
> >
> > Does this command actually work?
> > mount -t msdos /dev/hdb /mnt/zip
> > Then the command I gave you is wrong.
> > mount -t msdos /dev/sda /mnt/zip
>
> Bingo! Now they both work fine.
>
> Many, many thanks to all for all the help
>
> John
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Date: 15 Jan 2001 19:45:21 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live on Redhat 7
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to John MacDonald;
JM> OK Thanks I did that and that was the problem. No I find that
JM> Redhat doesn't support the SB Live card.
Put, in your /etc/modules.conf, the line
alias sound emu10k1
which should bring it in fairly early in the boot, you'll hear a click
in the speakers as it inits.
Even if you are running a stock install, the driver, emu10k1.o, should
be in the /lib/modules/version directory tree, and a simple insmod
emu10k1 should bring it in right now.
JM> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 01:10:55 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Sound like you have a built in audio card conflicting with your
>>Sound Blaster Live. Go into your BIOS and disable your audio card.
It certainly does sound that way. Turn the onboard audio off in the
bios like the other respondent wrote.
>>John MacDonald wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried several times to configure my Soundblaster Live card
>>> on RedHat 7 with a PIII 600 on a ASUS CUV4X board. When I run the
>>> sound configuration both in Gnome and in a shell I get the same
>>> problem. It says I have a VIA Technologies VT 82C 686 Apallo Super
>>> AC/Audio If I try to test the configuration the systems locks up
>>> solid. I have to pres the reset button to get anywhere. Ifr I try
>>> to load Linux again it locks up trying to load the sound modual.
>>> The reset button is need again.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas how to fix this and how about a way to get
>>> linux running without loading the sound modual.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
Cheers, Gene
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From: "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setup Question: I want to know the best way to setup an SMTP spooler for
Exchange
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:44:09 -0500
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.exchange.applications,microsoft.public.exchange.misc,microsoft.public.exchange.setup
"John Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I respectfully disagree.
Feel free to disagree all you like. Just don't expect me to agree with
your POV.
>We have an external ISP host a secondary MX server
>that simply collects all email in the event of an outage, then forwards it
>to our main in-house server when it returns to service.
>
>Several reasons for this suggestion
>1. T1's go down
And mail will be resent by the originating server when it's back in
service.
>2. Servers go down
Stand up another server and adjust the MX record.
>3. Major virus attacks. When the luv letter [misspelled to prevent filtering
>of msg] virus hit so hard and before the antivirus, we simply disconnected
>our email server from the external network. We let the host for the
>secondary MX worry about cleaning their server, and in the meantime, there
>wasn't any propogation of the virus.
And if the secondary MX just queued the mail and sent it to you, still
infected, afterward?
>The next morning, we reconnected our
>email server and had a ZERO incidence of infection. Email was delayed by
>approx 24hrs and antivirus software had caught up by then. Sure beats the
>alternative!
You're just the type of company I'd like to avoid. Let someone else do
all the heavy lifting -- great. No sense in investing in your own AV
software, eh?
>4. When you host your own email for your domain, any unavailability bounces
>email back to the sender. This can be very costly from a business point of
>view. Sure, it'll *probably* try to resend, but sometimes it's too late, and
>some servers only send every 24hrs. It also gives a poor impression and/or
>lost sales if you do business on the internet.
No mail is "bounced" if your server is unavailable, unless it's
unavailable for a /very/ long time. How the mail being queued (and
unanswered, which, BTW, also gives you a bad reputation) can hurt
business is speculative, don't you think?
==================
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.4.0 and PPP
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:01:25 GMT
I recently downloaded, compiled, and installed kernel version 2.4
on my existing Red Hat 6.2 system (upgrading from kernel 2.2.17).
All went well, and the new kernel boots, and it seems everything
works *except* PPP. I did all the updates/upgrades called for in
Documentation/Changes, including upgrading pppd to version 2.4.0,
but I can't get PPP to work under the 2.4 kernel. When I try to
bring up the interface, I get an error message stating that "the
kernel does not include support for PPP". I have double-checked
the configuration of the kernel, and both "PPP support" and
"PPP support over async serial lines" are included in the
kernel (not modules). PPP is verified as version 2.4.0, as called
for in Changes. I am definitely running the kernel I compiled, as
other options I switched on appear on bootup.
Any suggestions?
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