Linux-Setup Digest #460, Volume #20              Sat, 20 Jan 01 19:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Error during install of RedHat 7 ("Carlos")
  Re: Cannot mount other filesystems (David)
  Re: Killed my CDROM - Help! ("Tim Watkins")
  powerspec 1660 as linux machine (graham)
  PPPSETUP (Harry)
  Re: PPPSETUP (olgnuby)
  HELP!!Only the L appears in LILO ("bindou")
  Re: instrumentation displays (question) (James Knott)
  Re: What is dnetc?? (Nix)
  Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux (Gary Sandine)
  Re: HELP!!Only the L appears in LILO (Stephane Rouberol)
  Re: RH 6.2 Setup on e250 (Chris and Susan Kordish)
  Re: What is dnetc?? (Nix)
  RH 6.2 on 386 setup help (Chris and Susan Kordish)
  Help supported NIC cards don't work on Red Hat 7.0 ("Brian Donaldson")

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From: "Carlos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error during install of RedHat 7
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:38:32 -0000

When I am asked what kind of install I want I choose Workstation.  In my
case no matter what I choose I get the same pop up screen.
It reads:
    An error has occured - No valid devices were found on which to create
new file systems.  Please check your hardware for cause of this proble.

Thats is the message I get and RedHat reboots the system and trys again.
What am I doing wrong.  I thought I just insert the cd and it should install
ok.  I then Installed 98SE with no problems so I know my harddrive is
working fine.
Please please help me.  Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.



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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot mount other filesystems
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:46:32 GMT

Jim Reder wrote:
> 
> I have also posted this to another newsgroup.  Please forgive if you have
> read this already.
> 
-- snip --
> 
> Do I have to recompile the kernel to get rid of these?  Are there modules
> that make the kernel work with the filesystems?  Please help!  :(


Look in /lib/modules/x.x.xx/fs where x.x.xx is kernel version and see if
it has msdos.o, fat.o, vfat.o, modules. If these aren't there the kernel
may not be compiled to support them.

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.005% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: "Tim Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Killed my CDROM - Help!
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:07:51 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mark R. Holbrook"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello All!
> 
> Well I managed to kill my CD-ROM.  Help!
> 
> Here is my setup:
> 
> ide0: maxtor hard disk  (primary ide) ide1: maxtor hard disk ide2: ATAPI
> CD-RW   (secondary ide) ide3: nothing
> 
> These devices are all recognized in the startup just fine.  Here is a
> snip from the messages file during startup:
> 
> Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel:     ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7,
> BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel:    
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio Jan 20
> 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel: hda: Maxtor 98196H8, ATA DISK drive
> 
> Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel: hdb: Maxtor 88455D8, ATA DISK drive
> 
> Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel: hdc: CD-R/RW RW7083A, ATAPI CDROM
> drive Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on
> irq 14
> 
> Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> 
> Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel: hda: Maxtor 98196H8, 78167MB
> w/2048kB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63 Jan 20 07:02:30 ccdastronomy kernel:
> hdb: Maxtor
> 88455D8, 8063MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63 Jan 20 07:02:30
> ccdastronomy kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M Jan 20 07:02:30
> ccdastronomy kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> 
> After installing Redhat 7.0 successfully the CD-ROM was working just
> fine as a CDROM but I started nosing around trying to figure out how to
> use it as a CD-ROM burner.  I added the following line to lilo.conf on a
> recommendation from someone on #linuxhelp:
> 
> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
> 
> I also loaded the ide-scsi emulation driver.   Adding this line to lilo
> now causes my startup to include this message ABOVE the hardware outpus
> I mentioned  above:
> 
> Jan 20 07:02:29 ccdastronomy kernel: ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
> 
> After boot here is the output of lsmod:
> 
> Module                  Size  Used by ide-scsi                7472   0 
> (autoclean) sg                     16224   0  (autoclean) loop          
>  
>       12032   0  (unused) r128                   65152   6 vmnet        
>        
>        15168   3 vmppuser                5088   0  (unused) parport_pc  
>         
>          7504   0  [vmppuser] parport                 7936   0 
>          [vmppuser
> parport_pc] vmmon                  16880   0  (unused) lockd            
>  
>    31696   1  (autoclean) sunrpc                 54160   1  (autoclean)
> [lockd]
> 3c59x                  20144   1  (autoclean)
> agpgart                18864   2  [r128] es1371                 30000  
> 0 soundcore               2992   4  [es1371]
> 
> At this point in time CDRECORD sees the scsi emulated CD just fine:
> 
> Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
> Linux sg driver version: 2.1.38 Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
> scsibus0:
>  0,0,0   0) '        ' 'CD-R/RW RW7083A ' '1.10' Removable CD-ROM
>  0,1,0   1) *
>  0,2,0   2) *
>  0,3,0   3) *
>  0,4,0   4) *
>  0,5,0   5) *
>  0,6,0   6) *
>  0,7,0   7) *
> 
> BUT... I can't seem to mount a CD under linux.  If I do mount /dev/cdrom
> I get:
> 
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
>             or too many mounted file systems
> 
> So I checked to see if /dev/cdrom was linked to the CD:   ls -lga
> /dev/cdrom:
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            3 Jan 16 03:41 /dev/cdrom ->
> hdc
> 
> This seems right.  So I tried mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and
> I get the same error as above.
> 
> I looked in /var/log/messages after I try to do CDRECORD -scanbus and I
> get the following message:
> 
> Jan 20 07:51:10 ccdastronomy modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
> char-major-97 Jan 20 07:52:59 ccdastronomy last message repeated 3 times
> 
> So there appears to be some driver missing or something.
> 
> Next I watched messages while trying to do a mount and I get:
> 
> Jan 20 07:54:02 ccdastronomy kernel: ide-scsi: hdc: unsupported command
> in request queue (0) Jan 20 07:54:02 ccdastronomy kernel: end_request:
> I/O error, dev 16:00
> (hdc), sector 64
> Jan 20 07:54:02 ccdastronomy kernel: isofs_read_super: bread failed,
> dev=16:00, iso_blknum=16, block=32
> 
> Can anybody help!?
> 
> Thanks - Mark

When I tried to set up my CD burner under linux, the same thing happened.
 What I eventually did that solved the problem was to recompile the
kernel, removing IDE/ATAPI CDROM support, and then add the SCSI cdrom
support.  After that, all was well.

Tim

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Subject: powerspec 1660 as linux machine
From: graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:07:01 -0500

Hi

I recently got given a PowerSpec 1660 PC. By today's standard it's a little
underspecced (1 Gig drive, 16Meg of memory), but I have managed to get
RedHat Linux 6.2 up and running on it, as well as get it connected to an
ethernet via a network card in it. I even managed to get Gnome to run by
guessing the right video settings for the X11 setup.

Now what I want to do is to upgrade this machine a little to use it as a
webserver (for about 5 people), and as a network router. To do this I need
more memory, another hard drive, and another network card. I have talked to
Microcenter (who make this machine) and it seems I can get the memory no
problems. But beyond helping me with the memory they are essentially
useless. I need to know answers to the following questions and was hoping
some Linux person could help me out:

a) can this machine support 2 drives and 2 ethernet cards (are there
enough slots/ports?). I think so just looking at the spec sheet, but I
am not sure (at present I have one ethernet card plugged into the modem
slot, so I should be able to use the other PCI slot for the second card
...).

b) how big an EIDE drive can the second internal drive be? Microcenter
weren't sure, but guessed at 6Gig. Anyone know the correct number? Also
will any EIDE drive do the trick, or does it have to have a specific
thickness, etc?

c) I guess I need an ethernet card that plugs into the PCI bus slot. Any
suggestions for this. A Linksys 10-100 card seems a good bet ...

Any help would be greatly appreciated since Microcenter's people know
nothing, and this seems like a workable solution for my needs.

thanks
graham


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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPPSETUP
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:41:28 +0000

Can someone tell me how to put a pause in the middle of the dialled
out telephone number, atdt?????

Thanks 

Harry

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From: olgnuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPPSETUP
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:58:59 GMT

Harry wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me how to put a pause in the middle of the dialled
> out telephone number, atdt?????
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Harry
How bout just a common old comma. "," or two for a longer pause. Tilde
"~" works also in modem init strings to compenstae for slow hardware in
some instances. 

I use em for getting through slow or stubborn switch boards. like
atdt9,,,1,,800 etc. 

Charlie

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From: "bindou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: HELP!!Only the L appears in LILO
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:52:48 -0800

Help!.
I have installed linux redhat 7.0 on a computer running windows me an i get
the following problem when i restart the computer:
only L appears when booting and the screen freeze.
i have installed it on a primary slave disk.
Note that the computer does not have a primary master disk
Also i have tried to modify the lilo.conf found in by removing linear and
putting lba32,but when i type lilo it gives the following warning:
/dev/hdb is not the first disk.
I have also tried to copy the boot.b and map file from the linux boot floppy
but without results.

Any help please as i cannot even boot on the Windows System

Rgds

Jbk



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From: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: instrumentation displays (question)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:02:03 GMT

Steve Allen wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> This is a question that is the reverse of the usual -- how do I *decrease*
> the XWindow security?
> 
> I have a half-dozen machines with RH6.2/GNOME installed, and set to boot
> to an XWindow login.  A separate system runs a program that is to put a
> display up on these machines.
> 
> What I want is to have the display be presented on the RH systems without
> having to log in to them.  What do I need to do to accomplish this?  In
> the same vein, what is the best way to turn off the screensaver for these
> systems?  (While the app is running would be best, but an all-the-time
> shutoff would be acceptable; we can just turn the displays off.)
> 
> Thanks,
> ~Steve
> 
> --
> Steven R. Allen - SGI Admin Weenie
> http://www.eskimo.com/~wormey/
> Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly.
> It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with.

You could try rexec.

I have a similar set up here, where I launch X apps on my
Linux system from my OS/2 box.  The command format (in OS/2)
is:

rexec <remotehost> -l <userid> -p <password> <path &
filename> -display <localhost>

-- 
Replies sent via e-mail to this address will be promptly
ignored.
To reply, replace everything to the left of "@" with
"james.knott".

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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is dnetc??
Date: 20 Jan 2001 21:59:16 +0000

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Robin gibbered:
> Agree with you in terms of not being RT. The kernel is RT but user space
> (applications are not). In principal it's because the needs of an
> application can not pre-empt execution out of the kernel.

No, the kernel is not strong real-time; i.e., pieces of the kernel
cannot ask for execution-time guarantees of any kind. They're more
likely to execute in a given time than is a userspace app, but they are
not certain to; interrupt handler upper halves can pre-empt *anything*,
including pieces of the kernel, so even they cannot make guarantees
about execution time.

-- 
`Anyhow, that pipe dream doesn't say anything about the question you
 asked.  (I am planning for a career in politics.)' --- Mark Mitchell
                                                      on the GCC list

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From: Gary Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:17:34 GMT

Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, can Win2000 files be seen from Linux? What file systems
> do WinME and Win2000 use?

WinMe uses FAT 32 (LBA) (type c in Linux fdisk) and Win2k Pro
uses NTFS (type 7 in Linux fdisk); never tried mounting an
NTFS partition with Linux.  Didn't used to work, but supposedly
does now.  I'll try it the next chance I get.

http://www.lanm-pc.com (Cheap GNU/Linux boxes)

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From: Stephane Rouberol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!!Only the L appears in LILO
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:41:54 +0100

bindou wrote:
> 
> Help!.
> I have installed linux redhat 7.0 on a computer running windows me an i get
> the following problem when i restart the computer:
> only L appears when booting and the screen freeze.
> i have installed it on a primary slave disk.
> Note that the computer does not have a primary master disk
> Also i have tried to modify the lilo.conf found in by removing linear and
> putting lba32,but when i type lilo it gives the following warning:
> /dev/hdb is not the first disk.
> I have also tried to copy the boot.b and map file from the linux boot floppy
> but without results.
> 
> Any help please as i cannot even boot on the Windows System
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Jbk
From
 http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/kgw_lilo_errmsg.html
  
 L error 
  
 The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started, but it can't
load the
 second stage boot loader. The two-digit error codes indicate the type
of problem.
 This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry
mismatch. 
  
 Stephane Rouberol

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From: Chris and Susan Kordish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 Setup on e250
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:07:05 GMT

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that e250 has a rsc feature - remote system console
i wonder if there are a few bits in linux that 
aren't aware of this

rsc uses an RTOS to implement that feature

-hth
chris


eric wrote:
> 
> Hey all.  I have an Sun e250 for home that I want to setup RH 6.2 on.  So
> far so good.  But, I noticed that the maintenance light stays on solid
> amber.  Is there something that causes this?  If I load Solaris on it, the
> light will not be on.  Otherwise RH is running nicely.
> 
> Machine:
> UltraSparc e250
> 2 x 400mhz processors
> 1 gb Ram
> 4 x 9gb drives
> 1 onboard nic (hme0)
> Quad Ethernet board
> 
> Please make any suggestions.  I have poked around in the logs but haven't
> noticed really anything that jumps out.
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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is dnetc??
Date: 20 Jan 2001 22:12:39 +0000

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Daniel Robinson gibbered:
> This is not 100% correct. Linux is not a real-time operating system.
> Even with a nice of 19 the process will be given the CPU once in a
> while. To test this you can run something like Seti@home or dnetc with
> a nice of 19, and then launch another CPU intensive job such as MP3
> encoding without any nice. On my system Seti@Home still gets around
> 6-8% of the CPU.
> 
> This is due to the fact that Linux (and most Unix systems) is
> optimised for average case performance. Users expect there jobs to get
> a bit of work done even if a higher priority job is available in the
> system.

Nope, this has nothing to do with real-timeness. Even though Linux is
not a real-time OS (i.e. applications cannot ask for and receive strong
guarantees of time-to-execute-in), it *could* implement a new scheduling
class (called, when this has come up on linux-kernel, `SCHED_IDLE')
which received time only when nothing else did.

The problem is that this can have horrible effects on the rest of the
system through what is called `priority inversion'. The problem is that
such idle-time processes can grab locks that can affect higher-priority
processes, which can lead to low-priority processes *blocking*
high-priority ones for arbitrarily long periods of time:

A (SCHED_IDLE)    B (SCHED_OTHER, normal)   C (SCHED_FIFO, high)

Takes lock FOO

                  Starts work, blocks A's
                  execution

                                            Needs lock FOO, but blocked

C is blocked until B (a lower-priority process!) lets A have enough
CPU time to release its lock.

Possible fixes for this include killing SCHED_IDLE processes whenever
they have lock contention with a higher-priority process (unwise because
just because something is SCHED_IDLE doesn't mean it is unimportant; a
simulation run that's been going for three weeks shouldn't be
killed!)... and other strategies, most of them fearfully complicated and
most of them penalizing the common case of taking or releasing an
uncontended lock (a very, very frequent operation).

i.e. this scheduling class Just Isn't Going To Happen.

-- 
`Anyhow, that pipe dream doesn't say anything about the question you
 asked.  (I am planning for a career in politics.)' --- Mark Mitchell
                                                      on the GCC list

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From: Chris and Susan Kordish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 6.2 on 386 setup help
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:37:39 GMT

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hi,
        i have tried a few download sites 
and each 6.2 RH boot.img that i put on a floppy 
still boots this way:
--
invalid compressed imageVFS: Cannot open root device 08:34
Kernel Panic: VFS unable to mount root fs on 08:34
--
System: 386 DX 33 Baby Micronics Motherbboard (Gateway)
BIOS: Latest Phoenix 4.03.6.11 (  M3GS20  )
RAM: 8MB

any ideas
thx
chris
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From: "Brian Donaldson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help supported NIC cards don't work on Red Hat 7.0
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:06:06 -0800

I have installed Red hat 7.0 about 5 times now and it still doesn't detect
ethier of my nic cards.  The cards are 3com 3c905b-tx or D-Link - 538TX.  Is
there alway to probe for them after installing my OS?



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