Linux-Setup Digest #465, Volume #20              Sun, 21 Jan 01 14:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: RPM supports only package rev <= 3 ("ne...")
  Re: recompiling kernel and PCMCIA support - how? (A. Tsakiris)
  Re: LILO problems (Samuel Padgett)
  Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux (Josh Rovero)
  Kernel 2.4.0 NFS lockdsvc ("Jason M. LaPenta")
  Re: LILO problems (Samuel Padgett)
  Help with dual boot ("Aaron")
  RedHat installition kills WinME on Compaq Presario 1700T (Andrei Pushkarev)
  Re: Which distro has kernel 2.4, XFree86 4.0.2, & KDE 2.0 ? (Colin Watson)
  Re: LILO problems (Samuel Padgett)
  Gotcha's on IBM ThinkPad Setup? ("Andrew Carlisle")
  Re: Modem is "busy" - PCI IRQ Sharing problem - SOLVED!!! ("HOLY SHIT!")
  Re: Help with dual boot (Frederik Himpe)
  Pcmcia modem Mystery: No Carrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Help with dual boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Help installing KDE 2.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux (Steve Martin)
  Re: LILO problems (Steve Martin)
  Re: Help with dual boot (olgnuby)

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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM supports only package rev <= 3
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:32:38 GMT

On Jan 21, 2001 at 01:52, H.Bruijn eloquently wrote:

>On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 01:19:51 GMT, Swapnajit Mittra allegedly wrote:
>>   I have official RH6.1 installed on a pentium m/c. Now
>>   whenever I try to install a new version of an
>>   rpm, I get the following message:
>>
>>only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version of
>>RPM
>>
>>   This is not specific to just netscape installation.
>>   It has come up in almost all new installations,
>>   including a new version of rpm.
>
>Most likely you don't get Redhat 6.1 packages but newer packages which
>require the new version of the redhat package manager; version 4.
>
>You should be able to download that package in rpm 3 format at your nearest
>redhat mirror in the updates section, or somewhere like:
>ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/Mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/updates/6.2/i386
>or try
>http://rpmfind.net
Aktually, he really needs to go to RH's errata page and check out
the RH 6.1 entry for 09-AUG-2000.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: recompiling kernel and PCMCIA support - how?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A. Tsakiris)
Date: 21 Jan 2001 11:36:51 -0500

David Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  > In comp.os.linux.portable Michal Szymanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > 
  > > 1. Is the order (kernel, pcmcia) important?
  > 
  > Yes, you must do kernel then pcmcia.
  > 
  > > 2. Will the 'make install' in pcmcia directory replace any vital
  > > configuration files I'm using now (somewhere in /etc/, for example)?
  > 
  > No, it won't touch the *.opts files, which are the only ones that you
  > should ever modify.
  > 
  > > 3. Do I have to remake pcmcia every time I reconfigure kernel (even if
  > > the changes do not regards PCMCIA devices)? 
  > 
  > It is not always necessary, but it is necessary any time you change a
  > kernel configuration option that changes any kernel data structures or 
  > interfaces that are used by the PCMCIA modules.  So, there is some
  > subset of kernel configuration options that you can change without
  > needing to rebuild PCMCIA, but I don't know exactly what that subset
  > is.  Just do the rebuild.
  > 
  > -- Dave

Dave,

Your response to this post answered these very same questions for me.  
I was especially wondering about losing configuration settings.  Thanks
for your contributions to this newsgroup and your PCMCIA HOWTO.

-- 
Anthony Tsakiris

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Subject: Re: LILO problems
From: Samuel Padgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:49:05 GMT

Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have the impression you are missing a couple of lines...look at mine:

[...]

> You don't have disk=???? 
> you don't have a default=

I think `disk=...' is optional.  It allows you to tell LILO which
Linux disk corresponds to which BIOS disk, right?

`default=...' tells LILO which image is the default boot image.  If
unspecified, LILO picks the first image in the configuration file.  I
don't think this is the problem.

> Also when fooling around with those sorts of things it's a good idea before 
> you change things to make a resuce disk form the original booting system, 
> at least then you can get back in a adjust.

Thankfully, I have a rescue disk.  I just don't *always* use it to
boot to Linux.  ;)

Thanks for your help.

Sam

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From: Josh Rovero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:54:26 GMT

Applix.

futurewei wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Any suggestion for good application like Microsoft Office for Linux?
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Lee


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From: "Jason M. LaPenta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.4.0 NFS lockdsvc
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:03:27 -0600

Hello,

I just upgraded to kernel 2.4.0, and now I'm getting a NFS lockdsvc
error on boot. I included the NFS driver in the configuration. I was
coming from kernel 2.2.17. Any ideas on how to fix this? Also, could
this problem be related to StartOffice giving an IO error when it tries
to write to a vfat partition? I don't use NFS so I would like to get rid
of it, but it appears that some some programs rely on its file locking
services.

Thanks
Jason

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Subject: Re: LILO problems
From: Samuel Padgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:44:57 GMT

"Tomas Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Then I copied the lilo.conf file on the linux partition to my
> "rescue partition" in /etc

I'm not sure I understand this.  Which partition is your `linux
partition' and which is your `rescue partition'?

> Then I ran lilo with the -r option to specify the device that lilo
> should write on.  eg. lilo -r /dev/hda2

If I try something like this, I get the error

Fatal: chroot /dev/hda6: Not a directory

Thanks,
Sam

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From: "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with dual boot
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:46:37 -0500

i just resized my NTFS partition to make a linux swap file and a ex2
partition.  Now i want to use a program to dual boot windows 2000 and red
hat. PQboot dosent recognise ex2 as a bootable partition. I don't want to
mess with my MBR is there anothe program that can boot windows 2000 and
linux any better?  I really want to make this work, i've been working on
this for a while now and no luck at all
If you can help me that would be great!
Thanks
Aaron borngersma



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From: Andrei Pushkarev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: RedHat installition kills WinME on Compaq Presario 1700T
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:55:03 GMT

Can someone pelase help:


I am istalling dual RedHat7.0/WinME on Compaq Presario 17XL3:

- 850Mhz PIII 
- 20 Gb HD 
- 256 Mb RAM 

In brief, Linux installation screwes WinME partition:

First, I install Win ME from the scratch. Next, I install RedHat 7.0 
with LILO on MBR (/boot is withing 1024 cyl. limit). After reboot there 
is  LILO prompt. Choosing Linux works just fine. Choosing WinME brings 
the screen with icons, but system is not accessible. Sometimes I have 
an access to the system, but instead of C:,D: drives there are C:,E: and
D: drives. Sometimes I am not able to start any tools.

In details, I did the folowing steps: 

1. Istalled WinME from the scratch using 2 QuckRestore CD's 


2. Run ScanDisk and defragmenter on both disks C: and D: 


3. Shut down, booted from floppy and run from floppy 
   PartuctionMagic 4.02.67 


4. Partition Magic patition table is (free/used): 

1 C:           FAT32X      16,279.1 Mb/1,179.4 Mb   Primary 
2 *:           ExtendedX    2,798.1 Mb/2,798.1 Mb   Primary 
3 D:SYSTEM_SAV FAT32X       2,798.1 Mb/1,275.9 Mb   Logical 



5. After resizing C: and transforming logical D: into primary D
   partition table becomes: 
  
1 C:           FAT32         6,002 Mb/1,148.1 Mb    Primary 
2 *:           ExtendedX  10,276.9 Mb/0.0 Mb        Primary 
3 *:SYSTEM_SAV FAT32X       2,798.1 Mb/1,275.9 Mb   Primary 


  By the way, why partition C: becomes FAT32 from FAT32X at 
  this point?



6.At this point, WInME is bootable and working OK. Next I am 
  starting RH installation from CD in "expert" mode and using
  Disk Druid. Partition table in Disk Druid is:

Mount Point   Dev   Requested  Active        Type
<not set>    hda1       6002M   6002M        Win95 FAT32
<not set>    hda3       2798M   2798M        Win95 FAT32
/boot        hda2         16M     22M        Linux native
<swap>       hda5        512M    516M        Linux swap
/            hda6          1M    737M        Linux native




7. Next I install LILO in MBR, no boot floppy, no linear access, 
   default boot image on /hda2



8. After RH installation done, LILO comes up on reboot. Linux 
   loads OK, but loading WinME looks screwed.


        Thank you, Andrei

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Which distro has kernel 2.4, XFree86 4.0.2, & KDE 2.0 ?
Date: 21 Jan 2001 17:58:14 GMT

Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a distro out there that comes with kernel 2.4, XFree86 4.0.2, & 
>KDE 2.0 ?

Debian unstable. It hasn't been released yet, but the general public can
use it anyway.

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"People will be free to devote themselves to activities that are fun,
 such as programming, after spending the necessary ten hours a week on
 ... robot repair and asteroid prospecting." - The GNU Manifesto

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Subject: Re: LILO problems
From: Samuel Padgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:04:56 GMT

I was able to fix my problem by uninstalling LILO from /dev/hda6 with
the command

lilo -u /dev/hda6

and using linuxconf to install LILO on /dev/hda5.

Thanks for the help.

Sam

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From: "Andrew Carlisle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gotcha's on IBM ThinkPad Setup?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:06:05 -0500

Hello,

I am thinking about installing RedHat LINUX 6.2 on my ThinkPad.  I have
Celeron processor.  Are there any gothchas?

Thanks,

Andy



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From: "HOLY SHIT!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem is "busy" - PCI IRQ Sharing problem - SOLVED!!!
Date: 21 Jan 2001 18:07:19 GMT

sorry, i m alittle bit of a newbie, and i m sorry to say that i m lazy to
look, where can i get that lastest kernel?

Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks to your advice, Julie, my problem has finally been solved.  I've
> learned a lot along the way (e.g., building kernels), but am glad that I
> can move on to other things.
>
> What worked for me was to patch 2.2.16 with the HPT366 update (uses
> ide.c version 6.30) and serial 5.05.  Now I can also boot directly from
> my UDMA66 HD!!!
>
>
> Nader
>
>
> Nader wrote:
>
> > Here's a shout!  2.2.18 has been built.
> >
> > Julie Brandon wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 19:43:28 -0800, Nader ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >> said:
> >>
> >>> What kernel version did you use?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> v2.2.17 & v2.2.18
> >>
> >> (serial v5.05 needs a very tiny patch to compile on v2.2.18, give me a
> >> shout
> >> if you want the patch)
>



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From: Frederik Himpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with dual boot
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:23:26 GMT

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:46:37 -0500 Aaron wrote:

> don't want to mess with my MBR is there anothe program that can boot 
windows 2000 and linux any better?

You DO need a boot loader in the MBR, how would you otherwise have to 
choice which OS you want to start.

But: you can just use the Windows 2000 boot loader, which will be in the 
MBR already. You can find information about it in the Linux + NT loader 
mini-howto on www.linuxdoc.org. Also on my site there is an article which 
describes how to dual boot Windows 2000 with Mandrake 7.2

You will have to install LILO in the first sector of your Linux partition, 
then copy it (with the dd command) to a file, then copy this file to your 
Windows partition, and then edit boot.ini to add Linux to the NT boot 
loader.

Greetings,
Frederik
-- 
Frederik's Linux-Mandrake Experience Story
http://www.mandrakestory.cjb.net
Latest article: Installing Apache with PHP support


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pcmcia modem Mystery: No Carrier
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:23:05 GMT

I have a pcmcia modem. I'm running Red Hat linux 7.0 and the card was
originally unsupported. Then according
to PCMCIA-HOWTO, I ran the command "cardctl ident" and use the output
imformation to insert a new entry
in the file /etc/pcmcia/config. And the card is recognized
as /dev/ttyS18. Then,under KDE 2.0, i use Dialer Configuration
to setup the account and the "autoconfig" to find the modem. Everything
was OK. The modem can be correctly
debugged and initialized. But when I plug in the phone line and
use "wvdial" to dial, or "Kppp" to dial,
the process is active but remains at the stage of dialing. The output
showes "ATDT81000(the ISP number);
waiting for carrier". That was the exact situation when I ran the
dialer without the phone line. Please
show me how to make the modem run properly under Red Hat linux 7.0.
Thanks a lot.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help with dual boot
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:27:09 GMT

In article <3a6b2020$0$1500$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
find "BootPart"(for WinNT/2000). It's easy to use and marvellously
powerful.

laudney


> i just resized my NTFS partition to make a linux swap file and a ex2
> partition.  Now i want to use a program to dual boot windows 2000 and
red
> hat. PQboot dosent recognise ex2 as a bootable partition. I don't
want to
> mess with my MBR is there anothe program that can boot windows 2000
and
> linux any better?  I really want to make this work, i've been working
on
> this for a while now and no luck at all
> If you can help me that would be great!
> Thanks
> Aaron borngersma
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:32:07 GMT

Openoffice is the hottest thesedays.

laudney



In article <_nxa6.11706$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "futurewei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Any suggestion for good application like Microsoft Office for Linux?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Lee
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Help installing KDE 2.0
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:30:13 GMT

Follow the sequence: kdesupport, kdebase, kdelib, then at random.
Good luck.

laundey





In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just downloaded KDE 2.0 RPM's.
> It's approximately 26 files; all RPM's.
> I issued the following commands.
> rpm -Uvh qt*
> rpm -Uvh lib*
> rpm -Uvh htdig*
> So far so good.
> And then I tried issuing the following command.
> rpm -Uvh kde*
> I got tons of failed dependencies errors.
> Any help?
>
> ----
>
>


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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:41:02 GMT

> > Any suggestion for good application like Microsoft Office for Linux?

I'd have to say (after playing with Applix, Star, and WordPerfect)
that the best bet at this point is Applix Office. It's reasonably
stable, fairly easy to use, I've never had a problem importing
MS Office docs into it, and it's a whale of a lot cheaper than
anything Micro$oft is putting out (I recently saw it for sale in
an ad somewhere for $39, a *far* cry from its initial list
price of $99, which in turn is a lot better than MSOffice).
www.linuxcentral.com has it for $49, wish I could remember
where I saw it for $39.

BTW, for the record, there is a native Linux version of WordPerfect
Office 2000 available, also at Linux Central, for $99.

If you have a good Internet connection and just want a word procesor,
www.linux.corel.com offers WordPerfect 8 for Linux free for
non-commercial
use, as a download.

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO problems
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:47:49 GMT

Samuel Padgett wrote:

> lba32
> boot=/dev/hda6
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot-menu.b
> prompt
> timeout=150
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0
>     label=2.4.0
>     root=/dev/hda6
>     read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21
>     label=2.2.18pre21
>     root=/dev/hda6
>     read-only

Check me if I'm wrong, but did you put your new kernel
into the same directory as your old? This might be a
big problem; each kernel needs a System.map file to
be in the same directory as the kernel file. If you
just installed the bzImage file in /boot and did not
copy System.map file there as well, then the new kernel
probably will have a problem booting.

I usually put a new kernel into a separate directory from
the existing one, so that I'm sure nothing gets trashed
and I have a fallback position. I'd try putting the new
kernel in the root directory (/vmlinuz-2.4.0) and
putting the new System.map there as well. Then change
lilo.conf to point to that kernel with your "2.4.0"
entry, rerun Lilo, and see if it boots.

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From: olgnuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with dual boot
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:48:19 GMT

Aaron wrote:
> 
> i just resized my NTFS partition to make a linux swap file and a ex2
> partition.  Now i want to use a program to dual boot windows 2000 and red
> hat. PQboot dosent recognise ex2 as a bootable partition. 

I'm not really following you Aaron. When you PQ doesn't recognize an
ex2(I assume you mean ext2) file system. 

I've used PQ boot magic for a couple of years now and have never had any
difficulty with it recognizing and booting a properly prepared ext2 file
system that has a bootable installation in it. (except for mdk 7.2 which
seems to use a 4BSD or some other kind of bastardized mess that even
RedHat, or at least my RedHat 6.1 doesn't recognize on an install). I
have never used it with Win2K, but Win95, Win98, both vfat and fat32 has
worked okay for me with installations of numerous Linux distributions as
long as I've installed lilo in the target partition.

On this installation I'm currently typing on, I have Win98 in the
primary of my master drive, FreeBSD in the extended partition, and COL
linux occupying my entire second drive which is slaved off the primary
with DVDROM and slaved second CDROM occupying my secondary IDE. 

Even using Lilo installed into the MBR of your primary, presents no real
problems and can be removed with a simple fdisk /mbr from a Win System
boot disk.  

Charlie


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