Linux-Setup Digest #493, Volume #20              Wed, 24 Jan 01 17:13:15 EST

Contents:
  Re: Removing KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  mail server ???? ("avi")
  Editing /etc/fStab during bad boot ("Jack Frosch")
  Re: Promise IDE Controller on Dell PowerEdge 1400 (IRQ problem?) (Craig Orsinger)
  Re: newbie question: ThinkPad 365 (Kevin Croxen)
  Can't stay connected (Derek McKinnon)
  Re: Installing Linux 6.2 with Windows 2000/NT 4.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: promiscuous mode enabled ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Install several linux distributions on same disk ? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Delaying eth0 initialization? (Mike Loiterman)
  Re: Stuck in RH 5.2 + gcc 2.7 ("Yi Fang")
  Where is inetd -d log? ("Dennis W. Bulgrien")
  can't find ethernet cards (tlan.o) (Kelly Martin)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Removing KDE
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:55:20 GMT

In article <JEqb6.734$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Les B. Labbauf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to remove the KDE desktop from my setup, but can't find
any
> decent documentation/instructions on how I can accomplish this.  I am
> running Red Hat 7.0, and used the default installation to install both
> GNOME, and KDE.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Les
>
Do you want to totally remove KDE or just make GNOME your default
desktop?  You can do that at the gdm or kdm login.  If you want to
switch to gdm login and GNOME desktop, edit the etc/sysconfig/desktop
file and replace KDE with GNOME.  At next reboot,if you have X set to
start at boot (runlevel 5), as X starts you will now get the gdm login
and you can select GNOME as your desktop, it should be now by default.


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From: "avi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail server ????
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:04:32 +0200

Hi ,

After a long fight with Apache I was able to set up my webpage.
now how can I setup my mail server with Linux redhat 7.0
I have my own domain.


Thanks



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From: "Jack Frosch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Editing /etc/fStab during bad boot
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:50:11 -0600

How does one edit /etc/fStab?

I opened /etc/fStab in an editor and inadvertently corrupted it when I
closed the editor.  Now of course, Linux won't boot.  When I was dropped
into bash I tried to fix the problem as root, but can't.

I can see the errant text in the first line of fStab, but am not sure how to
edit it.  Vi won't let me save changes since it's a system file, and I can't
chmod my way out of the problem.  I tried booting from the floppy disk,
booting with "linux rescue" and "linux emergency LILO settings, but ran into
the same problem.

So how can I fix the problem I created??

TIA.

--
Jack



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From: Craig Orsinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,hardware
Subject: Re: Promise IDE Controller on Dell PowerEdge 1400 (IRQ problem?)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:50:31 GMT


"Eric R. Jorgensen" wrote:
> 

[snip]

> I'm running RH 6.2 and booted normally.  I did a "cat /proc/pci"
> and it looked like:
> 
>   Bus  0, device   4, function  0:
>     Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology Unknown device
> (rev 2).
>       Vendor id=105a. Device id=4d30.
>       Medium devsel.  IRQ 25.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
                        ^^^^^^

        I'm not familiar with how Linux handles IRQs, but this might be the
problem. Note that in the dmesg output, Linux identifies this as IRQ
-10,
an invalid number.

>       I/O at 0xecb8 [0xecb9].
>       I/O at 0xecb0 [0xecb1].
>       I/O at 0xeca0 [0xeca1].
>       I/O at 0xec98 [0xec99].
>       I/O at 0xec40 [0xec41].
>       Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe100000 [0xfe100000].
> 
> So when I rebooted, I passed the following to lilo:
> 
> linux ide2=0xecb8,0xecb2 ide3=0xeca0,0xec9a
> 
> From dmesg:
> 
> hdf: TRAVAN NS20, ATAPI TAPE drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide2: Disabled unable to get IRQ -10.

[more snippage]

> I should also mention that during the boot process, it prints out the
> message "Ultra100 BIOS is not installed".  This (to me, at least, a
> UNIX person, not a PC hardware person) further indicates an IRQ
> problem.

        Actually, this is just an indication that you don't have a
hard disk on this IDE interface. Even when your system works, it will
probably say this when it's booting up.

[more snippage]
 
> Any suggestions on the IRQ issue?

        Perhaps you could change what IRQ the IDE board uses?? It's 
pretty difficult, if not impossible, with the new boards, but perhaps
there's some DOS-based setup software that comes with the board?

        Hopefully, if this is a dumb idea someone familiar with how
Linux handles high IRQs will say so. All my systems have IRQs less
than 16, so I don't know if there's some sort of rollover bug in the
linux kernel or not. Did you say you were trying to use 2.2.16?

        You also might check to see if your system BIOS is set up
for a PnP-capable OS. I usually find that setting this to "NO" makes
things work better with Linux.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Subject: Re: newbie question: ThinkPad 365
Date: 24 Jan 2001 20:48:27 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Hardy wrote:
>Hi,
>I've got an old Thinkpad 365 without cd rom and wanted to (try to) install
>some linux setup (for curiosity). I tried RedHat 6 using a friend's pcmcia
>cdrom drive.
>I used the boot image 'pcmcia.img', to start up the installation but
>unfortunately when I got to the question 'on which device are the files
>held' it only gave me 'Hard disk' as an option.
>After trying to use the 'drivers.img' in various ways I gave up.
>Is the only option to copy all the files (at least, those that I want) to my
>hard disk from my friend's cdrom drive (my windows 95 recognizes his Fujitsu
>drive) and then start up the red hat installation telling it to find the
>installation files on the hard disk?
>
>Thanks for any tips.
>
>

You may wish to read the Thinkpad 365 entries at Linux for Laptops:

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/


However, all the linked pages refer to the installation of Mandrake or
Peanut Linux. No specifically RedHat installations are described.


I run Slack (originally 7.0, now 7.1) on just such a machine, and can
say that the pcmcia card services that are provided with Slack's 
pcmcia image detected everything instantly, and I had no difficulty
installing from a pcmcia cdrom. You might want to get a cheap Slack
CD from www.cheapbytes.com or www.linuxmall.com, build yourself a 
floppy threesome of bootdisk/rootdisk/pcmcia disk and have fun. The
card services included in SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 'laptop' bootdisks also had no 
trouble with the pcmcia controller in the 365, though I would 
hesitate before putting such a bulky distro on this particular machine.

The one issue with the 365 is the peculiarities with X stemming
from the trident video used and which bios revision is in the machine.
Those who have IBM's final bios revision in the 365 can run XFree86 3.3.x
on the machine (and I find mine surprisingly zippy even with KDE2, but
the memory's maxed out to 72 Megs), while those whose machines having an
earlier bios must run XFree86 3.2, and then use a special little 
utility called "XCyber" to exit and reenter X on their machines if X
has been started. Plus, when starting X on the machine you have to 
"jump start" the video by issuing fn-F7 key combo when the two orange 
lines appear on the display. Then the video works fine up to 800x600.
The later bios revision machines do evidently have a hibernate problem
in X, in that it is a "hibernation of death" from which the machine can't
be roused and must be restarted. Later-bios 365's do hibernate properly
and recover from console mode, and I read that earlier-bios boxes, though unable
to handle XFree86 beyond v. 3.2, do however recover from hibernation
properly while in X. 



The other thing with the 365 is that you will have to put an append line
in your lilo.conf if the memory in the machine is > 64Megs. 

Just a few not terribly consequential gotchas, otherwise the 365 is a 
nice little machine which I use every day.

Cheers,

--Kevin
 

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From: Derek McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't stay connected
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:00:45 GMT

Hello yall.  I'm running RedHat 6.1 and I have a USR 56K Fax modem.
I've edited my isapnp.conf file with the proper addresses.  I have a
dual boot system with windoze 98 and I've basically configured my
isapnp.conf file with the exact same settings as windoze.  I was able to

connect for a while but everytime I restart my system I have to change
the isapnp.conf and run setserial to connect.  Why do I have to change
my settings everytime I restart?  When booting It will tell me what line

in the isapnp.conf has an error.  But it's the same as I had it when I
connected.  Very frustrating.  I hate winoze but want to be able to use
my Linux system.  Pleas help


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing Linux 6.2 with Windows 2000/NT 4.0
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:57:42 GMT

We used a product called System Commander 2000 to setup a triple-boot
NT4.0/Win2k/Linux system on a single 20GB hard drive.

What you have to do first is create about a 164 MB FAT16, bootable
partition at the beginning of your drive.  Then, what we did was
installed NT 4.0 as a 4GB NTFS D:\ drive and then installed Win2k 4GB
NTFS as an E:\ drive.

After installing NT and 2000, boot up with a standard Win98 boot disk
with CD-ROM option enabled.  Then install System Commander 2000 onto
the 164 MB C:\ drive.

Reboot

Once you run System Commander, go into its partitioning utility.  In
there you will be able to have it actually move the NTFS partitions out
to the end of the drive.

Reboot

Tell System Commander to boot from A:\ drive & insert your Linux
installation disk and do an install.  You'll only be able to create a
maximum of two partitions.  However, you won't get the "out of space"
errors.  We created a 2.5 GB '/' partition and a 128 MB Linux Swap
partition.  Also, when it asks where you want LILO to run from, DO NOT
set it to run from the MBR.  Otherwise it'll wipe out System
Commander's settings and you'll end up reinstalling.

Then go back into System Commander's partitioning utility and increase
the size of your extended NTFS partition to fill the rest of the
remaining space empty space

After getting Linux installed you'll have to boot back into DOS and
change your boot.ini files before you'll be able to access NT/2000
again.  If you use the same configuration we have you'll boot 2000 from
partiton(6) and NT from partition(5).  You have to change BOTH boot.ini
files.  One is located on the root of C:\ and the other will be located
in C:\SC\WIN2K.  Only changing one of them will leave NT/2000 still
unreachable.

After all of that, just go into Win2000's disk administrator and assign
the unused space as a logical drive.  You'll have to go into NT's disk
administrator also and tell it the same thing.  Format the logical
drive from within NT.  Also, in NT's disk administrator you MUST MUST
MUST set it to match the drive lettering as 2000's - not the other way
around.  We did this and it has worked great so far.

Obviously if you're using two hard drives you may need to do some other
adjusting, but this should get you pointed in the right direction.

- D.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  D Karels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to install RedHat Linux 6.2 on my desktop PC, which already
contains a
> dual boot of Windows 2000 Advanced Server and Windows NT 4.0 Server.
I have two
> hard-disks in my PC. The first is 6 Gb and has two partitions, the
first used
> for windows NT, the second for (NT) data-files. The second hard-disk
is 20 Gb
> and has four partitions. The first is used for Windows 2000 and the
other three
> for data.
> For installing Linux, I erased the last partitions of the second hard-
disk (5 Gb
> of space). I started the Linux installation, but when I'm creating my
> linux-partitions (using disk-druid) I get the error that the boot
partition is
> too big. The active boot partition is the first partition of the
first (master)
> hard-disk (Windows NT) using the NTFS file-system, which is 2Gb in
size.
> I can create my Linux-swap partition, but it refuses to create the
Linux-native
> partition.
>
> I already look at
http://www.littlewhitedog.com/reviews_other_00011.asp, but
> this doesn't say anything about this. It just says that LILO can not
be
> installed on a NTFS partition and that there is a 'work-around'. Or
am I
> misunderstanding the meaning of the page?? Is it because I have
Windows NT on
> the first partition??
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dennis Karels
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: promiscuous mode enabled
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:06:03 GMT

In article <94lt6a$ab0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know what eth0 is.... how do i disable using the "ifup" scripts?
>
> --
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> "aowens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:94k6sj$t3l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <94j4oc$l49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Every now and then I get this message ("eth0: promiscouos mode
> > enabled") on
> > > my linux box. What is it? what does it mean? why?
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > The eth0 refers to your network interface (nic).  Promiscuous mode
tells
> > the interface to receive all packets going through the network
instead
> > of ignoring those not for itself.
> >
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Check in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup file, search for
"promisc" (no quotes), if you find it as an option to the ifconfig
command in the script, then remove it.  Otherwise, check the
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 file.  look for a reference to
promisc there.

My question is, how did your system get set up to start the eth0 in
promisc mode in the first place.  Until you find it, of course you can
turn it off each seesion with: ifconfig eth0 -promisc

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install several linux distributions on same disk ?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:14:11 +0100

H.Bruijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:12:28 +0100, Peter T. Breuer allegedly wrote:
>>Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>and a single /tmp partition. And a single /usr/local partition.
>>And a single /home and swap partition.
>>(I would have said /var too, but for distro-specific variations)

> Regarding /usr/local ; a problem may arise when not all libraries used in
> compiling the software there are available (in the same location) when
> using a different distribution.

And exactly how would that not arise if you didn't have /usr/local
common to all distributions? Answer: it would not arise by not having
the guilty programs available at all, which does not seem to me to be
an improvement.

Peter

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From: Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delaying eth0 initialization?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:21:27 GMT

Yes that is correct...3c9059.o

In article <3a6ee7bf.16580829@news>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie) wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 04:33:35 GMT, Mike Loiterman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Doesn't anyone know how to fix this problem?!
> >
> What driver is shown in the eth0 section of the linuxconf display?
>
> I use a 3C509B and the driver is named 3c509.o, so I'd expect
> something like 3c905.o for your card.
>
> >In article <94ke2d$45c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >  Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I THINK i have done this. Remind me once more how do it.  I did it
> >> through the kernelconfg untility.  Selected eth0 and than 3509.
> >>
> >> In article <g9ib6.25731$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >>   "Jet Set Willy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > news:94i76u$8i0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognize my 3com 3905b NIC, but
when I
> >> try
> >> > > to restart the network it says Briging up interface lo: ok
> >Bringing
> >> up
> >> > > interface eth0: Delaying eth0 initoialization [FAILED].  What
does
> >> this
> >> > > mean?
> >> >
> >> > Warning - could be a stupid newbie answer !
> >> >
> >> > I used to get this with my Mandrake 7.1 machine (same NIC)
> >> > when you I went to netconf (I think) the system did not seem to
> >> > recognise that it was a 3C509 card - once I told it to use that
> >> > module all was well
> >> >
> >> > JSW
> >> >
> >> >
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From: "Yi Fang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stuck in RH 5.2 + gcc 2.7
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:46:43 -0600

I just installed gcc2.95.2 on my RH6.0  (which was gcc2.8.1)

Download the source code and put in /usr/src/xxx, after you unpack the
files.  Follow the README carefully, you won't have any problems.

Good luck,

Yi


"Clark L. Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94kc3c$f7k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Have RH 5.2, gcc 2.7.0 (came with 5.2 at the time.) I need to upgrade
> to gcc 2.95.2.
>
> When I try the rpm route to 2.95.1 or 2.96 (all that I find on mirror
> sites; 2.95.2 RPM is available at redhat.com, but connecting to their
> ftp server is an impossibility), I get all kinds of dependencies and
> conflicts that seem to be circular. For example, trying to update
> glibc to 2.2-12 from rpm tells me that there are various packages on
> my machine that need previous versions of libc.so (part of glibc). Try
> to update things that depend on glibc (like gcc) and they tell you
> that you must have a newer glibc first.
>
> Do I just start forcing these updates through rpm? Should I try to
> install gcc 2.95.2 from a *.tar.gz file, and will that include the cpp
> and glibc stuff that I need?
>
> My first impulse was to simply buy RH7.0 and upgrade from 5.2. Then, I
> started reading recommendations on this group to avoid 7.0. Should I
> download or buy RH 6.2? (cannot seem to buy it from RedHat any more, I
> noticed.)
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>



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From: "Dennis W. Bulgrien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where is inetd -d log?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:42:38 -0600

Do you know where "inetd -d" logs its debugging information?



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From: Kelly Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.rehat,comp.linux.os.questions
Subject: can't find ethernet cards (tlan.o)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:59:59 GMT

I just installed RedHat 7 as a second sever, went fine but didn't find the
ethernet cards. They're both Compaq NetFlex  3/E (tlan.o driver) but this
module isn't currently loaded.

I added 'alias eth0 tlan' and 'alias eth0 tlan' to /etc/modules.conf but
nothing is getting loaded - I assume I'm missed the IRQ settings? I did a
grep for 'tlan' and foud it in the /boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-22 directory as
well as several /bin directories so it does exist. Now what?

ifconfig reports only the loopback is running. The redhat pages say the
following which means nothing to me because I don't have the IRQ settings
or know how to get them:

        tlan=io_port,IRQ,aui,debug tlan io=io_port irq=IRQ Other Module
        Options: speed=10Mbs,100Mbs debug=0x0[1,2,4,8] aui=1 duplex=[1,2]

Is there some way to probe for the settings?

Sorry for the four-group crosspost, I never know where to post a good
question. :)

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