Linux-Setup Digest #495, Volume #20              Wed, 24 Jan 01 22:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please ! ("Arctic Storm")
  Upgrade from RH5.2 to RH6.2 hangs (Clark L. Coleman)
  symbios SCSI adapter problem while installing Redhat 6.2 (Oktay Altunergil)
  Re: symbios SCSI adapter problem while installing Redhat 6.2 
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference: Call for Papers (Sasha Keller)
  partition sector mess (newbie)
  fetchmail for persistant connection? (Michael West)
  Re: Install Linux on 85mb hd... (Michael West)
  Re: Linux on 2nd hard drive..... ("NG_lurker")
  Re: fetchmail for persistant connection? (H.Bruijn)
  Re: fetchmail for persistant connection? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: mail server ???? (E J)
  Re: Install Linux RedHat 7 en AlphaServer 1200 (E J)
  Re: Install Linux on 85mb hd... (angel 'king' cat)
  SMC 1211 Network Card - Problems with Kernel 2.4 ("Brian")

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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please !
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:18:58 -0800

> > There are a few tips here and there on upgrading the kernel in general,
> > but nothing specific for 2.4.  I'm talking about the proverbial "Idiot's
> > Guide to Linux Kernel 2.4 Upgrade."
>
> Why do idiots need to upgrade to 2.4 now?

Ironically, although you may know slightly more about Linux than I do, I
seem to have greater insight and better understanding of the spirit of
Linux.  Let me explain to you.  The intension of Linux is to provide a
reliable/dependable product for productivity and utility, for *everyone*; to
help and serve the general public.
By the way, my phrase in the original post is in quotes, so that with use of
some common sense, it'll be obvious that it's in jest; no one is actually
accused of being an idiot.

> Here is a complete set of easy-to-understand instructions:
> Hire an expert to do it for you.

I will represent the Linux community and tell you that *information* and
*knowledge* regarding Linux is *free*, and will remain so with or without
the upgrade.  It's reasonable to pay & charge for time/service for setup of
a computer system.  However, not for the information & knowledge.  Sharing
of knowledeg is free and is encouraged in Linux.

-









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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Upgrade from RH5.2 to RH6.2 hangs
Date: 25 Jan 2001 00:11:10 GMT


I have a multi-boot system with RH5.2, among other OSes. I am
upgrading to RH6.2 with a boot floppy and CD-ROM. After I select
Upgrade rather than install, a screen appears that says "Upgrading
Your System" in the help window on the left. Regardless of whether I
then select "Customize packages to be upgraded", the next step is
"finding packages to upgrade." After a couple of seconds, this pops up
an error message box:

"Error mounting hda8: Invalid argument".

When I click the funny OK button with the arrow that goes down and
then to the left, the system just sits there forever with no new
messages displayed, and I have to hit the reset button to reboot.

/dev/hda8 is my swap partition. The hda entries from /etc/fstab are:

/dev/hda7    /          ext2     defaults    1   1
/dev/hda9    /home      ext2     defaults    1   2
/dev/hda10   /usr       ext2     defaults    1   2
/dev/hda8    /swap      swap     defaults    0   0
/dev/hda1    /mnt/dosC  msdos    defaults    1   2


When you do "ls -l /dev/hda8", you get:

brw-rw----  1   root    disk   3,   8  May 5    1998   /dev/hda8

My hard drive has the first 2 GB for FAT16 DOS (/dev/hda1), the next
2GB for FAT32 Win95 (hda5), which is the first the first of a bunch of
logical/extended partitions in hda2: 2 GB for NTFS for WinNT 4.0
(hda6), then the Linux partitions shown above. hda7, hda8, hda9, and
hda10 all fall in the next 2 GB, before sector 1024 on the disk.

Why is the upgrade looking at the swap for the existing RH5.2 and
having a problem?

Any help would really be appreciated. Thanks.




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From: Oktay Altunergil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: symbios SCSI adapter problem while installing Redhat 6.2
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:30:04 -0000

We have a Micron NetFRAME NF3100 Server on which we attempted  to install 
Redhat 6.2.

Just at the beginning it says something like 'installing module for scsi 
ncr53c8xx' etc and hangs just like that. When I did alt+F4  (i don't know 
what that screen is called) I see the below message;


<6>ncr53c876-0: restart (scsi reset)
<4>ncr53c876-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS
<4> SCSI host 0 abort (pid 9) timed out - resetting
<4> SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0
<4> ncr53c8xx - reset: pid = 9 reset_flags=2 serial_number=XXX 
serial_number_at_timeout=XXX


where XXX increments from 1 to whatever each time I see the message.


The SCSI adapter we have is SYM53C875 (symbios) according to its 
configuration program. It also looks like we have two SCSI host and there 
are 2 WD HDs on the first host.. The other looks empty. 


Does anyone know how to get past that point and install Linux on this 
thing?? If we can use the 'Linux dd' option, what kind of a driver file 
should we put on the floppy disk? If not, how can we fix this thing?


If we can't get this to work, we'll have to work on a 32mb pentium133 
which will suck big time. Thanks.

Oktay Altunergil

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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: symbios SCSI adapter problem while installing Redhat 6.2
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:54:16 +0100

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Oktay Altunergil wrote:

> We have a Micron NetFRAME NF3100 Server on which we attempted  to install
> Redhat 6.2.
>
> Just at the beginning it says something like 'installing module for scsi
> ncr53c8xx' etc and hangs just like that. When I did alt+F4  (i don't know
> what that screen is called) I see the below message;
>
>
> <6>ncr53c876-0: restart (scsi reset)
> <4>ncr53c876-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS
> <4> SCSI host 0 abort (pid 9) timed out - resetting
> <4> SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0
> <4> ncr53c8xx - reset: pid = 9 reset_flags=2 serial_number=XXX
> serial_number_at_timeout=XXX
>
>
> where XXX increments from 1 to whatever each time I see the message.
>
>
> The SCSI adapter we have is SYM53C875 (symbios) according to its
> configuration program. It also looks like we have two SCSI host and there
> are 2 WD HDs on the first host.. The other looks empty.
>
>
> Does anyone know how to get past that point and install Linux on this
> thing?? If we can use the 'Linux dd' option, what kind of a driver file
> should we put on the floppy disk? If not, how can we fix this thing?
>
>
> If we can't get this to work, we'll have to work on a 32mb pentium133
> which will suck big time. Thanks.
>
> Oktay Altunergil

I had a problem with a _lot_ of timeouts when I installed my SCSI
adapter. It happened to be a CD-R that was incorrectly connected.

Make sure, all cables are connected correctly. Also make sure there are
no SCSI ID overlaps. At last make sure, that the cable is terminated
(and no unit in the middle of the cable is terminating).

Rasmus B�g Hansen


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From: Sasha Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: 5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference: Call for Papers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:08:31 -0800

5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference (ALS 2001)
November 6-10, 2001
Oakland, CA USA
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Sponsored by USENIX and the Atlanta Linux Showcase, Inc., 
in cooperation with Linux International

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And this year, ALS breaks with tradition by moving out of 
Atlanta to Oakland, CA! 

The ALS 2001 Program Committee invites you to contribute your 
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symposia tracks. We welcome submissions that address any and 
all issues relating to Linux and the Open Source world. 

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topics is now available at http://www.linuxshowcase.org

Submissions are due June 5, 2001

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for Linux enthusiasts and professionals! We look forward to seeing
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===========================================
5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference (ALS 2001) is
is sponsored by USENIX, the Advanced Computing Systems 
Association, and the Atlanta Linux Showcase, in cooperation 
with Linux International.
===========================================

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From: newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partition sector mess
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:11:00 GMT

I'm trying to figure out the best way to fix my mess-of-a partition
table.  In the process of configuring my RH 6.2 box (30G drive) to
dual-boot with W95, I ended up with only 12G visible.  I've included the
info that partition magic gave me after I checked what I ended up with.
Can I simply remove the partitions and start over, or do I need to do a
low-level format on the disk?


tia,
Brian

PS Sorry about the messy display ...

==============

========================================================================

Partition Information for Disk 1:    8024.7 Megabytes
Volume         PartType    Status    Size MB    PartSect  #   StartSect
TotalSects   UsedSects   FreeSects
========================================================================

C:W95          FAT16B      Pri,Boot   2047.3           0  0          63
4,192,902     310,497   3,882,405
               Linux Ext2  Pri        4071.2           0  1   4,192,965
8,337,735     227,223   8,110,512
               Extended    Pri       23211.1           0  2  12,530,700
47,536,335  22,764,105  24,772,230
               EPBR        Log        1906.1        None --  12,530,700
3,903,795   3,903,795           0
D:APPS         FAT32       Log        1906.1    12530700  0  12,530,763
3,903,732       7,652   3,896,080
               Free Space  Log       12095.8        None --  16,434,495
24,772,230           0  24,772,230
               EPBR        Log        8989.5    12530700  1  41,206,725
18,410,490  18,410,490           0
               Linux Ext2  Log        8989.5    41206725  0  41,206,788
18,410,427   1,505,115  16,905,312
               EPBR        Log         204.0    41206725  1  59,617,215
417,690     417,690           0
               Linux Swap  Log         203.9    59617215  0  59,617,278
417,627     417,627           0
               EPBR        Log           7.8    59617215  1  60,034,905
16,065      16,065           0
Warning: EPBR partition starting at 60034905 is without logical
partition.
               EPBR        Log           7.8    60034905  1  60,050,970
16,065      16,065           0
Warning: EPBR partition starting at 60050970 is without logical
partition.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael West)
Subject: fetchmail for persistant connection?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:29:54 GMT

I am planning to set up a standard 
fetchmail/sendmail/procmail/client mail system.

I have not done this before.

When reading about fetchmail I see that it is for
dial-up connections.  Is it inappropriate to use
it for persistant connections?  Is there another 
tool I should use?

        Thanks,
                quagly



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael West)
Subject: Re: Install Linux on 85mb hd...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:29:55 GMT

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:19:38 -0600, kellyboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have this old 85mb hd and I wanted to know which distro or something I
>could to install....
>
>I have linux myself..and I plan to mount this 85mb hd into my Athlon linux
>and install linux package and stuff to that drive...umount 85mb hd... and
>unplug it and go over to my 386computer with 8mb ram..install HD and boot it
>there...
>
>any ideas?
>
>I wanted to use 386 as firewall/masq that has none of the unnecessary
>package unrelated to its intented purpose...except support for telnet (of
>course)
>
>this 386 has nothing connected to motherboard except cpu/ram/ide
>card/ethernet(2)/old old old videocard (I think its pre EGA...color is
>broken) and connector for keyboard
>
>kellyboy
>
>

I have only heard of old versions of distributions which can be installed that
small.
You might look for one.

There are also the floppy versions of linux such as muLinux, which should work
fine for what you are proposing.

I personally spend a lot of time this the boot disk how-to, the linux from 
scratch how to, and the "Creating a Zip bootdisk which runs Linux in a ramdisk" 
how to and created my own version on Linux that is 60mgs.
It was a great learning experience,
but a bit of a project.

Hope this helps.

        ~quagly

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From: "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on 2nd hard drive.....
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:32:34 +0300

Use a good sized free space and assign that to Linux. Use Partition Magic or
Fips to make partitions and free space. What distro do u have? Im only
familiar with RH7 and installed it in my Windows 98/2K dual-boot box last
night. I choose workstation mode and selected the boot disk option. I was
able to boot to Linux from that boot disk. To return to Windows just remove
the floppy and reboot. That's how i preserve the Windows bootloader.


John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ITCb6.6266$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My desktop is WinME on a 30g hd....I would like to install a distribution
of
> Linux on a 4g hd...any suggestions would be appreciated....I do not want
it
> to adversely affect my WinMe system.....    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> P.s.  I am also installing a small linux on a 486 and Peanut Linux and
> Slackware 3.2 were suggested....opinions?
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: fetchmail for persistant connection?
Date: 25 Jan 2001 01:42:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:29:54 GMT, Michael West allegedly wrote:
>I am planning to set up a standard 
>fetchmail/sendmail/procmail/client mail system.
>
>I have not done this before.
>
>When reading about fetchmail I see that it is for
>dial-up connections.  Is it inappropriate to use
>it for persistant connections?  Is there another 
>tool I should use?

No it isn't, but in practice what a lot of people who have a
persistent connection (with a static ip-adress) do, is to have all mail
directly forwarded to the machine which runs sendmail (even setting up
their own domain). Depeending on your ISP that makes all the difference
in the world, or they made it impossible.

Now if you use fetchmail with a persistet connection, simply put it in
daemon mode. It will then check all your mail-accounts automagically at
a specified interval (fi every 300 sec.).

-- 
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn                            mail:          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands                       website:   http://hermanbruijn.com

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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail for persistant connection?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:49:36 +0100

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Michael West wrote:

> I am planning to set up a standard
> fetchmail/sendmail/procmail/client mail system.
>
> I have not done this before.
>
> When reading about fetchmail I see that it is for
> dial-up connections.  Is it inappropriate to use
> it for persistant connections?  Is there another
> tool I should use?

It works fine for me, and I am connected 24 hours a day (when we have
electricity and our ISP is doing well :-).

Just make a simple .fetchmailrc - if you do not want to read man-pages,
you could use fetchmailconf.

Rasmus B�g Hansen


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail server ????
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:25:55 GMT

What mail server do you like?
sendmail:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/nag/nag.html
qmail:
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Qmail-VMailMgr-Courier-imap-HOWTO.html

avi wrote:

> Hi ,
>
> After a long fight with Apache I was able to set up my webpage.
> now how can I setup my mail server with Linux redhat 7.0
> I have my own domain.
>
> Thanks


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install Linux RedHat 7 en AlphaServer 1200
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:30:21 GMT

RTFM on http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/
The alpha manauls are in pdf and html format.


Jose Alberto wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Has somebody install Linux RedHat 7 on a AlphaServer 1200. I would
> appreciate any help.
>
> Thanks


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From: angel 'king' cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Install Linux on 85mb hd...
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:51:49 GMT

michael,

you may want to try slackware 7.0 - the newest release.
it comes with SEVERAL variations for different platforms, etc...  -
which is something you want to take into account since the machine that
you're putting it on has only 8mb ram, etc...

worse comes to worst, you could always try an older release...

take care,

angel.

==================

Michael West wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:19:38 -0600, kellyboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have this old 85mb hd and I wanted to know which distro or something I
> >could to install....
> >
> >I have linux myself..and I plan to mount this 85mb hd into my Athlon linux
> >and install linux package and stuff to that drive...umount 85mb hd... and
> >unplug it and go over to my 386computer with 8mb ram..install HD and boot it
> >there...
> >
> >any ideas?
> >
> >I wanted to use 386 as firewall/masq that has none of the unnecessary
> >package unrelated to its intented purpose...except support for telnet (of
> >course)
> >
> >this 386 has nothing connected to motherboard except cpu/ram/ide
> >card/ethernet(2)/old old old videocard (I think its pre EGA...color is
> >broken) and connector for keyboard
> >
> >kellyboy
> >
> >
> 
> I have only heard of old versions of distributions which can be installed that
> small.
> You might look for one.
> 
> There are also the floppy versions of linux such as muLinux, which should work
> fine for what you are proposing.
> 
> I personally spend a lot of time this the boot disk how-to, the linux from
> scratch how to, and the "Creating a Zip bootdisk which runs Linux in a ramdisk"
> how to and created my own version on Linux that is 60mgs.
> It was a great learning experience,
> but a bit of a project.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
>         ~quagly

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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMC 1211 Network Card - Problems with Kernel 2.4
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:03:30 GMT

Hi,

I just compiled the 2.4 kernel under Mandrake 7.2...

Everything worked great (I thought)... No error messages or anything when
compiling...

On booting, however, with the new 2.4 kernel I noticed that eth0 failed,
which suggests that my network card was incorrectly selected when I set up
the new kernel.

My question is, which card should I select, that supports the SMC 1211, when
setting this kernel up?

Thank you for any help...  =)



Note:  Please send a copy of any replies to -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks again!

- Brian -



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