Linux-Setup Digest #500, Volume #20              Thu, 25 Jan 01 12:13:13 EST

Contents:
  error message....... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: "~" with vim ?? ("Ed Bras")
  Re: kernel bloody 2.4!! ("Adam Short")
  Re: ide-scsi, cdrw, ATAPI ZIP and kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ide-scsi, cdrw, ATAPI ZIP and kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Making a bootable CD. (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
  Re: Fonts (Tom Finegan)
  Trying to install dual boot WinNT + Linux ("Tyberghein Jorrit")
  Re: Upgrade from RH5.2 to RH6.2 hangs (Clark L. Coleman)
  Re: FTP SERVER not working in RH 7.0 (tgraham)
  Seagate ST8000 ("Markus Feldmann")
  Re: New to Linux (Frederik Himpe)
  Re: Upgrade from RH5.2 to RH6.2 hangs (David)
  Re: Install several linux distributions on same disk ? 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RH7 fail to bring up eth0; but pump work...?! (Ernest Siu)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: error message.......
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:57:20 GMT




cd /usr/share/i18n
localedef -i locale s/zh_HK -f charmaps/BIG5HKSCS zh_HK.Big5
and then get more more error messages .............................

locales/zh_HK: 85: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abday'
locales/zh_HK: 85: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abday'
locales/zh_HK: 86: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abday'
locales/zh_HK: 86: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abday'
locales/zh_HK: 87: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abday'
locales/zh_HK: 87: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abday'
locales/zh_HK: 88: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abday'
locales/zh_HK: 91: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 91: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 92: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 92: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 93: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 93: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 94: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 94: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `day'
locales/zh_HK: 97: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 97: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 98: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 98: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 99: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 99: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 100: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 100: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 101: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 101: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `abmon'
locales/zh_HK: 105: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 105: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 106: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 106: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 107: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 107: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 108: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 108: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 109: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 109: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 110: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 110: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `mon'
locales/zh_HK: 113: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `am_pm'
locales/zh_HK: 120: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `dt_fmt'
locales/zh_HK: 125: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `d_fmt'
locales/zh_HK: 130: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `t_fmt'
locales/zh_HK: 135: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `t_fmt_ampm'
locales/zh_HK: 145: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `yes_expr'
locales/zh_HK: 147: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `no_expr'
locales/zh_HK: 166: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `name_gen'
locales/zh_HK: 167: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `name_mr'
locales/zh_HK: 168: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `name_mrs'
locales/zh_HK: 169: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `name_miss'
locales/zh_HK: 170: LC_TIME: unknow character infield `name_ms'
LC_MESSAGES: value for field `yesexpr' must not be an empty string
LC_MESSAGES: value for field `noexpr' must not be an empty string
no out file producedbecause warning were issued




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From: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "~" with vim ??
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:13:48 +0100
Reply-To: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Peter,

Ed

Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ed Bras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does someone know how to configure vim that it doesn't create a file
with
> > the same name and the "~" character at the end, when you edit a file  ?
> > (quite enjoying euhhhh)
>
> turn off backup? set nobackup? A  wild guess.
>
> > Why is this by the way ??
>
> Backups? Surely every editor since time immemorial has done that.
> But my vim certainly doesn't .. it puts its safe copy in /var somewhere.
>
> Peter



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From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel bloody 2.4!!
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:20:58 -0000

Thanks. Wasn't sure if upgrading the kernel utils was going to make 2.2
unusable, which is why I've held off on installing it. My system is dodgy at
the best of times, so I'm a little concerned that the upgrade might not work
anyway. I'll try what you suggest, hopefully I'll get something approaching
an optimised system sometime soon.

Adam



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ide-scsi, cdrw, ATAPI ZIP and kernel
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:05:41 GMT

In article <94oaqc$ir1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I know several recent postings about getting an ATAPI CDR and Iomega
ZIP
> drive working by using SCSI emulation of the CDR, and then forcing
> the boot time option at the lilo prompt: hdc=ide-scsi.
>
> To mount the ZIP drive, #mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/iomega
> BUT I don't have a valid block device, /dev/sda...is this because I
> turned OFF SCSI disk/tape support in the kernel config?

You must turn ON SCSI disk support in the kernel options. Then, that
enables kernel support for the sda block device.  Works great!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ide-scsi, cdrw, ATAPI ZIP and kernel
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:05:24 GMT

In article <94oaqc$ir1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I know several recent postings about getting an ATAPI CDR and Iomega
ZIP
> drive working by using SCSI emulation of the CDR, and then forcing
> the boot time option at the lilo prompt: hdc=ide-scsi.
>
> To mount the ZIP drive, #mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/iomega
> BUT I don't have a valid block device, /dev/sda...is this because I
> turned OFF SCSI disk/tape support in the kernel config?

You must turn ON SCSI disk support in the kernel options. Then, that
enables kernel support for the sda block device.  Works great!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Making a bootable CD.
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:25:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Since much has happened lately, I think it may be easy to now make a 
bootable CD, which conatins a relatively full Linux installation 
( not with X, but most basic command line tools etc. ) so that one can
make a very powerful recovery CD which does not limit one to the
problems of eing stuck using "cut down" utilities?

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From: Tom Finegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fonts
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:38:52 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I recently installed linux. I find fonts are very small. can anybody
> tell me how to increase size of fonts? Fonts size of charaters in login
> screen. xterm &  any other window.

Check out http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/
The author mentions TrueType as one of the good things to come from
Redmond and I agree


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From: "Tyberghein Jorrit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trying to install dual boot WinNT + Linux
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:48:18 GMT

I'm trying to install Linux on a laptop that already has Windows NT on it.
Since the laptop belongs to my work I am not allowed to mess with the NT
installation and I am not able to reinstall it myself I need to find a way
to set
this up without having to reinstall NT. The current NT is installed on an
NTFS
partition which takes 2 Gigabytes. The total HD is 6 Giga. The size of the
NT
partition is ok so I don't want to touch that.

The situation that I want is to have four partitions like this:
    2 Gig NTFS
    1.6 Gig FAT (file transfer between NT and Linux)
    250 Meg Linux Swap
    2+ Gig Linux ext2fs

Some facts:
    - I'm using Mandrake 7.1 distribution to install stuff.
    - The laptop is a Dell Latitude with 256Megs RAM and an ATI
      display card.
    - I'm system administrator on the NT side.
    - The NT system is WinNT 4 (no control over that).

I already did two efforts to make this work.

Effort 1:
    - First I used the 'windisk' utility that comes with WinNT to create
      an additional FAT partition of 1.6 Gig like described above. This
works
      fine.
    - Then I put in the Mandrake CD-ROM and reboot. Installation
      starts.
    - All seems to go well. I also install Grub booter and everything works
just
      fine. I can choose between WindowsNT and Linux at boottime and both
      start up just fine.
    - However the 1.6Gig FAT partition has gone in Windows NT (but it is
      still visible in Linux and looks ok). Running 'windisk' on NT again
reveals
      that it thinks something has messed with the partition table (which is
of course
      true).
    - I let him correct stuff but this doesn't help.
    - At long last I decide to reformat the 1.6Gig partition on the WinNT
side.
    - This seems to work but when I then return to Linux the main linux
      partition (the 2Gig partition) is corrupted!!! Running fdisk from root
reveals
      that the partitions are overlapping somehow!!!
    - Ok, so here I had to restart.

Effort 2:
    - I started from scratch (i.e. deleted all partitions except for the
NTFS one).
    - Then I installed Linux first (before using Windisk to create the extra
FAT
      partition).
    - While installing Linux I let the Mandrake install make a 1.6 Gig FAT
partition
      instead of creating it in NT.
    - Install goes perfectly. Again I'm in the good situation of being able
to
      boot NT and Linux.
    - The 1.6 Gig FAT partition works fine from Linux but again it doesn't
work in
      NT.
    - Opening Windisk (taking care not to make the formatting mistake of
above
      again) reveals that Windisk doesn't know anything at all about the
partitions
      that were created by linux install. It just sees 2 GIG NTFS and 4 GIG
      empty space!!! (while this empty space is actually three partitions).

So how can I enable this second partition on Windows NT without corrupting
my Linux install?

Greetings and thanks in advance,



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Upgrade from RH5.2 to RH6.2 hangs
Date: 25 Jan 2001 15:44:22 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Clark L. Coleman" wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> That was a typo in my previous posting. There is no "/" in the
>> /etc/fstab entry for swap.
>> 
>> With that possibility behind us, does anyone have an idea why the
>> RH6.2 upgrade installer is looking at the swap device while searching
>> for packages to upgrade, and then dying as a result? What can be done
>> about it?
>> 
>> I would assume there are other people in the world who:
>> 1) had RH5.2 with a separate device partitioned for swap.
>> 2) Used the upgrade path to RH6.2 successfully.
>
>I kind of thought it was but thought I'd check.
>What does fdisk show you?
>
> fdisk /dev/hda
>

It shows the following:

   Device  Boot  Start  End   Blocks   Id   System
=================================================
/dev/hda1         1     255   2048256   6   DOS 16-bit >= 32M
/dev/hda2    *  256    1020   6144862+  5   Extended
/dev/hda5       256    510    2048256   b   Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda6       511    765    2048256   7   OS/2 HPFS
/dev/hda7    *  766    782     136521  83   Linux native
/dev/hda8       783    799     136521  82   Linux swap
/dev/hda9       800    832     265041  83   Linux native
/dev/hda10      833   1020    1510078+ 83   Linux native

Thanks for the help.





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From: tgraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP SERVER not working in RH 7.0
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:56:09 GMT

I don't have RH 7 working but I've used Mandrake quite a bit, you need
to make sure you've installed both the ftp rpms, I'm in the middle of a
move so my box is down but do a search for installed ftp RPMS and look
at the CD RPMS directory to see if you missed one on the install.

Hope this helps,

T



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Eric Corndorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey everybody.  Just installed RH 7.0 and all is well for the most
part.
> The only thing that really didn't start working is the ftp
server...I'm not
> able to ftp into my machine.  As I understand it, the name of the
service
> is tftp.  When I type "service --status-all" I don't see the tftp
service
> on the list.  I think thats it's not starting...but I'm not sure
because I
> cant compair my machine to a working RH 7.0 machine.  Can someone who
has
> RH 7.0 running tell me if the above command shows the tftp service?
If it
> does, can SOMEBODY tell me why mine is NOT working?  Thanks, please cc
a
> copy of your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thnaks
>
> -Eric
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
>


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From: "Markus Feldmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Seagate ST8000
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:26:58 +0100

Hi all,

I�ve got a fresh installed RH 70, attached to the first IDE Port is a
Seagate ST8000 4/8GB Steamer (/dev/hda)
when I try to backup to this device with tar I get the following:

ide-tape hda unsuppoted command in request queue
endrequest: I/O error, dev 03:00 hda sector 0

can somebody give me a hint to this ???

thanx.

Markus Feldmann.



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From: Frederik Himpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:31:12 GMT

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:35:06 GMT Kevin Swanson wrote:

> I have an Asus A7V and need help installing the Promise ATA100 IDE Driver.
> How do you install it in Mandrake 7.2?

Read this article: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hbits5.html

Greetings,
Frederik
-- 
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http://www.mandrakestory.cjb.net - http://how.to/mandrakestory
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade from RH5.2 to RH6.2 hangs
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:36:40 GMT

"Clark L. Coleman" wrote:
> 
> 
> It shows the following:
> 
>    Device  Boot  Start  End   Blocks   Id   System
> -------------------------------------------------
> /dev/hda1         1     255   2048256   6   DOS 16-bit >= 32M
> /dev/hda2    *  256    1020   6144862+  5   Extended
> /dev/hda5       256    510    2048256   b   Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda6       511    765    2048256   7   OS/2 HPFS
> /dev/hda7    *  766    782     136521  83   Linux native
> /dev/hda8       783    799     136521  82   Linux swap
> /dev/hda9       800    832     265041  83   Linux native
> /dev/hda10      833   1020    1510078+ 83   Linux native
> 
> Thanks for the help.


I don't see anything wrong there.
I know when 6.2 first came out there was a problem with the boot disk
but I thought they had that fixed. I haven't found anything on the error
your getting anywhere and have not seen that one before. 

Just a couple of ideas.
Have you tried any of the new updated images? Have you tried copying the
CD to the hard drive and doing a hard drive upgrade by chance? Don't
know if that would do any good or not just an idea. Maybe doing an
install instead of an upgrade and not formatting the /home partition if
you have one.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Install several linux distributions on same disk ?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:58:21 GMT

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:12:28 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Herman,
>
>> Thank you for the detailed reply.  I had thought to install each
>> distribution sequentially.  In that scenario, the third or fourth
>> distribution might have its /boot partition outside the 1024 cylinder
>> limit.  In retrospect, since all the partitions are linux, it makes
>> sense that each distribution should be able to use a single /boot
>> partition.  I'm looking forward to trying out some other
>
>and a single /tmp partition. And a single /usr/local partition.
>And a single /home and swap partition.
>(I would have said /var too, but for distro-specific variations)

If you can live with renaming kernels, and probably a complicated
lilo, I would start by having a swap partition and a slightly larger
/boot partition (maybe 50 MB) at the beginning of the disk.  In /boot,
I would stick my kernels (debian-vmlinuz-2.2.18, mandrake-2.2.17,
redhat-2.4.2, ...) and have them all pointed to from lilo.  Have all
of them boot into some minimal distribution on the hard-disk (Tom's
root/boot ?), and from the login do a chroot into some filesystem
which has your Debian, Mandrake, RedHat,  or whatever distribution.
Setting it up would be a pain.

Gord


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From: Ernest Siu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH7 fail to bring up eth0; but pump work...?!
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:01:43 -0500

Hi all,

I just installed RH7.0 and I have a RealTek8XXX for my eth0.  When it
boots up it always show:

    Bringing up interface eth0. Determining the IP Information.
Operation Failed.

I can't even get anything from "dmesg | grep eth".  But using the
graphical network configurator, I can see eth0 there but it is
"inactive".  The strange thing is when I got in as root, I do "pump -i
etho0 -h crxxxxx-x", it will get IP and connected to Internet no
problem.

So what's the deal when it boots up?  Now I put the pump command under
boot-up script so it will run, but it takes RH so much time trying to
resolve whatever the "Bringing up interface eth0...."-problem is.  At
the very least I'd like to stop RH to perform that task.  If possible it
will be the best if I can fix this fail thing and not use my pump
command in the script.

Thanks for any comment/suggestion!!

Ernest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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