Linux-Setup Digest #510, Volume #20              Fri, 26 Jan 01 17:13:16 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux Laptop Setup (Jaime Davila)
  Re: networking in 2.4 (Lac Hao Viet)
  Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat (Markku Kolkka)
  Re: networking in 2.4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: networking in 2.4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Tricky lilo setup question (Brian Goodyear)
  Re: Question on LILO and recompiling your Kernel (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Warning: /boot/System.map has an incorrect kernel version. (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat (Dave Brown)
  RH 6.1 install hangs (Thomas Hedden)

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From: Jaime Davila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Laptop Setup
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:19:52 GMT

"w@rped" wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Trying to install Redhat 7.0 on laptop with 12 gb HDD and 128 mb ram.
> Partitioned the primary to be 30mb with 2 x 4gb used by Win2K.
> 
> Installation OK but I could not boot up to Redhat. My laptop does not have
> an internal FDD so creating a boot disk is out.
> 
> Any suggestions ? TIA.


HMM. SOunds like a problem with lilo setup. You'll need something else
to booup. You could use bootmagic. I have a copy that came with
partitionmagic ($70). Maybe there's something similar for free out there
in the web. Search for boot control  or boot selection...

-- 

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Jaime J. Davila
Assistant Professor of Computer Science
School of Cognitive Science
Hampshire College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila
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From: Lac Hao Viet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: networking in 2.4
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:08:23 GMT

I'm using 2.4.0 with 2 NC100 Lynksys :) they're working great :) what
brand of card do you have?


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Timothy Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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>     Hello, I'm trying to get networking to work in the new 2.4 kernel.
I
> was want to know if anyone was sucessfull with the 2.4 install. I've
> compiled and installed the 2.4 kernel. Everything seemd to be working
> fine; except that I'm having trouble, getting network devices to
> work. It is difficult to describe because I do not know exactly where
> the problem is. I configured in network interfaces and cards as
> modules. I have two 10/100 fast ethernet cards. when I do a netstat,
> unix domain sockets seem to work fine, but if I try to ping, I'll get:
>
> ping: wrote hal 64 chars, ret=-1
> ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
>
>     Looking in "/var/logs", at the "boot.log" file, the only
indication
> that the network devices are not working properly are these
> messages:
>
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization.
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth1 failed
>
>     The same errors come up in the "messages" log. OK, I got that, but
> why are the devices not working properly. This message is js
> just a fact finding one to see how other people compiled thier kernels
> and got networking to work. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Tim
>
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> <html>
> &nbsp;
> <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hello, I'm trying to get networking to work in
the
> new 2.4 kernel. I was want to know if anyone was sucessfull with the
2.4
> install. I've
> <br>compiled and installed the 2.4 kernel. Everything seemd to be
working
> fine; except that I'm having trouble, getting network devices to
> <br>work. It is difficult to describe because I do not know exactly
where
> the problem is. I configured in network interfaces and cards as
> <br>modules. I have two 10/100 fast ethernet cards. when I do a
netstat,
> unix domain sockets seem to work fine, but if I try to ping, I'll get:
> <p><b>ping: wrote hal 64 chars, ret=-1</b>
> <br><b>ping: sendto: Network is unreachable</b>
> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Looking in "/var/logs", at the "boot.log" file,
the
> only indication that the network devices are not working properly are
these
> <br>messages:
> <p><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface lo
succeeded</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth0
failed</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization.</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth1
failed</b>
> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The same errors come up in the "messages" log.
OK,
> I got that, but why are the devices not working properly. This message
> is js
> <br>just a fact finding one to see how other people compiled thier
kernels
> and got networking to work. Thanks in advance for any help.
> <p>Tim</html>
>
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>
>


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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat
Date: 26 Jan 2001 23:24:30 +0200

"Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dear All,
> 
> I just installed RedHat 7.0 with Server mode selected.

The X Window System isn't installed in a Server class installation.
If you want to use your system as an X workstation, you should choose
workstation install class. If the system is doing both jobs (a bad
idea...), use Custom install, and pick both types of components.
 
> Can anyone help me to install Xwin for further configuration?

You need to install the XFree86 packages, Xconfigurator, and possibly
Gnome or KDE.

-- 
        Markku Kolkka
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: networking in 2.4
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:15:25 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Timothy Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>     Hello, I'm trying to get networking to work in the new 2.4 kernel. I
> was want to know if anyone was sucessfull with the 2.4 install. I've
> compiled and installed the 2.4 kernel. Everything seemd to be working
> fine; except that I'm having trouble, getting network devices to
> work. It is difficult to describe because I do not know exactly where
> the problem is. I configured in network interfaces and cards as
> modules. I have two 10/100 fast ethernet cards. when I do a netstat,
> unix domain sockets seem to work fine, but if I try to ping, I'll get:
>
> ping: wrote hal 64 chars, ret=-1
> ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
>
>     Looking in "/var/logs", at the "boot.log" file, the only indication
> that the network devices are not working properly are these
> messages:
>
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization.
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth1 failed
>
>     The same errors come up in the "messages" log. OK, I got that, but
> why are the devices not working properly. This message is js
> just a fact finding one to see how other people compiled thier kernels
> and got networking to work. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Tim
>
> --------------C5D46F61C5B430EF90E6C33E
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> <html>
> &nbsp;
> <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hello, I'm trying to get networking to work in the
> new 2.4 kernel. I was want to know if anyone was sucessfull with the 2.4
> install. I've
> <br>compiled and installed the 2.4 kernel. Everything seemd to be working
> fine; except that I'm having trouble, getting network devices to
> <br>work. It is difficult to describe because I do not know exactly where
> the problem is. I configured in network interfaces and cards as
> <br>modules. I have two 10/100 fast ethernet cards. when I do a netstat,
> unix domain sockets seem to work fine, but if I try to ping, I'll get:
> <p><b>ping: wrote hal 64 chars, ret=-1</b>
> <br><b>ping: sendto: Network is unreachable</b>
> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Looking in "/var/logs", at the "boot.log" file, the
> only indication that the network devices are not working properly are
these
> <br>messages:
> <p><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization.</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth1 failed</b>
> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The same errors come up in the "messages" log. OK,
> I got that, but why are the devices not working properly. This message
> is js
> <br>just a fact finding one to see how other people compiled thier kernels
> and got networking to work. Thanks in advance for any help.
> <p>Tim</html>
>
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>
>
Did you select the correct modules for your cards?
Did you do 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'?

If so, do 'modprobe -a /*' (no quotes)

Then lsmod and see if the modules are there.
If they are,great, now use linuxconf, netcfg, or netconfig to configure
the card. If not, recheck and make sure you selected the proper module
when you configured your kernel.

Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: networking in 2.4
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:15:46 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Timothy Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --------------C5D46F61C5B430EF90E6C33E
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>     Hello, I'm trying to get networking to work in the new 2.4 kernel. I
> was want to know if anyone was sucessfull with the 2.4 install. I've
> compiled and installed the 2.4 kernel. Everything seemd to be working
> fine; except that I'm having trouble, getting network devices to
> work. It is difficult to describe because I do not know exactly where
> the problem is. I configured in network interfaces and cards as
> modules. I have two 10/100 fast ethernet cards. when I do a netstat,
> unix domain sockets seem to work fine, but if I try to ping, I'll get:
>
> ping: wrote hal 64 chars, ret=-1
> ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
>
>     Looking in "/var/logs", at the "boot.log" file, the only indication
> that the network devices are not working properly are these
> messages:
>
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization.
> Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth1 failed
>
>     The same errors come up in the "messages" log. OK, I got that, but
> why are the devices not working properly. This message is js
> just a fact finding one to see how other people compiled thier kernels
> and got networking to work. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Tim
>
> --------------C5D46F61C5B430EF90E6C33E
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> <html>
> &nbsp;
> <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hello, I'm trying to get networking to work in the
> new 2.4 kernel. I was want to know if anyone was sucessfull with the 2.4
> install. I've
> <br>compiled and installed the 2.4 kernel. Everything seemd to be working
> fine; except that I'm having trouble, getting network devices to
> <br>work. It is difficult to describe because I do not know exactly where
> the problem is. I configured in network interfaces and cards as
> <br>modules. I have two 10/100 fast ethernet cards. when I do a netstat,
> unix domain sockets seem to work fine, but if I try to ping, I'll get:
> <p><b>ping: wrote hal 64 chars, ret=-1</b>
> <br><b>ping: sendto: Network is unreachable</b>
> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Looking in "/var/logs", at the "boot.log" file, the
> only indication that the network devices are not working properly are
these
> <br>messages:
> <p><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization.</b>
> <br><b>Jan 26 00:39:24 frye network: Bringing up interface eth1 failed</b>
> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The same errors come up in the "messages" log. OK,
> I got that, but why are the devices not working properly. This message
> is js
> <br>just a fact finding one to see how other people compiled thier kernels
> and got networking to work. Thanks in advance for any help.
> <p>Tim</html>
>
> --------------C5D46F61C5B430EF90E6C33E--
>
>
Did you select the correct modules for your cards?
Did you do 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'?

If so, do 'modprobe -a /*' (no quotes)

Then lsmod and see if the modules are there.
If they are,great, now use linuxconf, netcfg, or netconfig to configure
the card. If not, recheck and make sure you selected the proper module
when you configured your kernel.

Scott
---
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www.linuxgruven.com
314-727-0918


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From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tricky lilo setup question
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:40:23 -0500

Hi...Here's the setup 

sda- main boot drive (os/2, windows etc)
hda5- Suse Linux
hdc1- Caldera Linux

OS/2' s Bootmanager is installed as primary bootmanager.
Entry 1 iof Bootmanager menu is Suse and 2 is Caldera.
Suse is on hda5 and from Bootmanager it fires up Lilo and it works.
Calder is on hdc1 but from Bootmanager it doesn't work.
Bootmanager is pointing to hdc1.

However I put Caldera on the Lilo menu on Suse partition and copied the 
bootimage to /boot of Suse's partition and this way I can access Caldera.

Problem is that now I need to set up Win4lin on the Caldera partition but I 
believe it will modify the lilo.conf there so it will never come up.

How can I get the Caldera distribution to boot from Bootmanager?
Here is the lilo.conf from Suse (the working one)

        boot=/dev/hda5
        vga = normal
        read-only
        prompt
        timeout=100

        disk = /dev/sda
                bios = 0x80
        disk = /dev/hda
                bios = 0x81
        disk = /dev/hdb
                bios = 0x82
        disk = /dev/hdc
                bios = 0x83

        default=caldera

        #Added by TreLOS for Win4Lin kernel
        image = /boot/win4lin
        label = win4lin
        root = /dev/hda5 

        # Caldera
        image = /boot/vmlinuz-pc97-2.2.14-modular
        label = caldera
        root = /dev/hdc1

And here is the one on Calder;s partition which doesn't work (comes up with 
the LI and hangs):


        boot=/dev/hdc

        # target

        disk = /dev/sda
                bios = 0x80
        disk = /dev/hda
                bios = 0x81
        disk = /dev/hdb
                bios = 0x82
        disk = /dev/hdc
                bios = 0x83


        # options

        timeout=250
        default=linux
        vga=normal

        image = /boot/vmlinuz-pc97-2.2.14-modular
                label  = linux
                root   = /dev/hdc1

Any ideas?
Brian



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Question on LILO and recompiling your Kernel
Date: 26 Jan 2001 16:58:49 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <94scko$1jj4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Keith Wheeler wrote:
> Don't forget to copy the System.map file too. The new System.map file also
> needs to be in /boot.

No, it doesn't.  See the man pages for ps(1) and klogd(8).

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Warning: /boot/System.map has an incorrect kernel version.
Date: 26 Jan 2001 17:03:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul F. Becker wrote:
> At bootup I get an error in syslog
> Jan 26 11:40:04 bonham kernel: Symbol table has incorrect version
> number.
>
> and in /var/log/messages
> Jan 26 12:04:12 bonham kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map
> Jan 26 12:04:12 bonham kernel: Inspecting /System.map
> Jan 26 12:04:12 bonham kernel: Loaded 7569 symbols from /System.map.
> Jan 26 12:04:12 bonham kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.17.

These are probably issued by klogd(8).  See its man page to see where it
looks for System.map.  You can change the startup script to tell it exactly
where to look, if you like.

(Evidence:

$ strings - /sbin/klogd | egrep 'Inspecting|Loaded|match'
Loaded %d symbols from %s.
Symbols do not match kernel version.
Cannot verify that symbols match kernel version.
Symbols match kernel version %s.
Inspecting %s
Found table with matching version number.
Loaded %d %s from %d module%s

)

> I can't figure out whether this is a lilo issue or a kernel building
> issue (or both). I have always had this problem but, I've just put up
> with it.

It's not harmful.  If you want to send in a bug report because of a
kernel Oops, you'll have to run ksymoops to translate the output.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:18:40 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>I just installed RedHat 7.0 with Server mode selected. However, it can't run
>the Xwin and looks missing the required program (I tried XF86Config).
>
>Can anyone help me to install Xwin for further configuration?
>
>Regards,
>Bill
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

A "server" install does not install X, since it assumes there won't 
be any user sitting at the "server".

You need 5 rpm packages to run X on RH.  XFree86-3.3.6..., XFree86-lib...
XFree86-xfs... XFree86-75dpi... and XFree86-SVGA-(or whatever Xserver 
you video card needs).  Since there are built-in dependencies linking these 
5 packages, you have to install them in a particular order (which I don't 
remember), or use the --nodeps option.  You probably also want to install 
the Xconfigurator package.

Of course, that will get X up and running, but then you'll have to go 
back and install X applications--gnome, kde, etc.  (Don't you wish you 
had not chosen the "server" installation by now?) The best choice for 
install is "Custom"... then you can choose the major bundles of packages.

-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:07:00 -0500
From: Thomas Hedden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RH 6.1 install hangs

Hello,
I am doing a clean install of RH 6.1 on the following hardware:
MoBo Asus P2B-DS, twin PIII-650
Matrox Millenium G400 16 MB RAM (X-test works OK)
256 MB RAM
20 GB hard disk, not entirely devoted to Linux, but with
    generous partitions for /, /boot, /home, /usr, /usr/local,
    /var, /opt, /tmp
Sound Blaster Live! Value sound card
HP CD-Writer Plus 9100
Linksys EtherFast 10/100 LAN card
I selected the "install everything" option, and the install
program formats the partitions, then prints the message
"Performing post install configuration". After that, it just
sits there. It's been doing this for hours. I think it's
probably hung or is in a loop, but I don't have a clear idea
about how long this should take. This is the third time this
has happened, so I doubt that I made a mistake following the
instructions on the screen.
I am installing EVERYTHING, of course (including stuff I
probably won't use but want to play around with), so it could
take awhile. If it's hung, is there some portion of the stuff
that is likely to be causing the system to hang which I could
should omit?
I have a multibooting system; the hardware works fine
together with Windows 95 and Windows 98, so there doesn't
appear to be a problem with the hardware (card not plugged in,
etc.).
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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