Linux-Setup Digest #527, Volume #20              Mon, 29 Jan 01 05:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Partition problem ("Phil")
  Re: NEED HELP... LILO Config with SCSI boot drives and IDE storage drives (Eric)
  Re: explain  memory model for linux (Eric)
  Re: Help! Killed mouse! (Eric)
  Re: Display problems (Eric)
  Troubles with ATAPI CDROM driver and weird network troubles <tulip card> ("Stephen 
R. Phillips")
  Re: How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ? (Eric)
  Re: Partition problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Need your suggestion on how many partition for my 30GB hd?? (moonie;))
  Re: Installing Linux 6.2 with Windows 2000/NT 4.0 (Steven Burley)
  Re: Need your suggestion on how many partition for my 30GB hd?? (moonie;))
  pppd (Jeff Moore)
  Re: ftape - zftape help ? someone ? (imbsysop)
  [Q] Default font setup in linux ("luxun")
  Re: How to kill childs of daemons automatically? (Villy Kruse)
  kernel Q: "maximal mount count reached, forcing fsck" -- set/detected where? (Phil 
Edwards)
  Linux on Alpha (Jean-Stephane Lebrun)
  Re: kernel Q: "maximal mount count reached, forcing fsck" -- set/detected where? 
(Eric)
  Setting up USB in 2.2.18 kernel ("James L. Terman")
  agpgart ("Adam Short")

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From: "Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition problem
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:10:10 +0800

To all real expertise,

As my understanding, each harddisk can be divided into 4 partitions
(primary/extended).  In extended partition, it could have maximum 16 logical
drives only.

(1) My question is whether I can create more than 16 logical drives for an
extended partition?

In fact, I have tried to create the special files (using mknod command) for
the 17th logical drive, but failed.

(2) Another question is for having a 30GB RAID disk, and I would like to
divide the disk into 150 partitions and each have 200MB in size. Is it
possible to do that?  Or, it is a limitation and I cannot create more than
64 (4x16) partitions.

Philip Li
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEED HELP... LILO Config with SCSI boot drives and IDE storage drives
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:31:11 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John Swearingen wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is my first time in this newsgroup, so if I'm asking a question that's
> already been answered, I'd greatly appreciate direction to that post.
> Thanks.
> Otherwise, here's my situation:

Old postings can be found through

 http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml

> I have WinMe, which as far as booting goes, I "believe" is the same as
> Win98... please feel free to correct me if wrong. :-)

As far as I know, you're right

> I want to install Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on my system.
> 
> All my OS's will reside on a ~9.0GB SCSI hard disk, ID0 in Adaptec's SCSI
> setup
> 
> I have another identical SCSI hard disk, primarily for storage, which is set
> at ID1 in SCSI setup
> 
> I also have a ~17GB IDE drive, which is used soley for data storage
> 
> I've tried, apperently unsucessfully, to use LILO to boot these OS's in
> harmony.
> 
> All I can get is the first "LI" then a system hang, so I've been reverted
> back to using fdisk /mbr to restore my MBR to allow booting in Me, but I
> have to use a floppy to boot Linux.
> 
> If anyone with experience could help me out with this problem, I'd greatly
> appreciate it.  Thanks.


Try to add disk= lines to lilo.conf, to make sure that LILO uses the
same numbering as the BIOS does.
Read the manpage of lilo and lilo.conf for the correct syntax.

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: explain  memory model for linux
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:32:19 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> 
> kimbray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > can you explain the memory model for linux
> 
> flat.
> 

:-)

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Killed mouse!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:43:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Great stuff, this kudzu hey?
Once you have everything running, remove kudzu.

Now try to disconnect the mouse.
reboot (kudzu detects no mouse)
plus it back in and reboot
hopefully kudzu will detect it again.

If not, check what is missing.
I have no idea what kudzu does when it removes a device.

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Display problems
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:46:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

probably the easiest is to try another windowmanager.

Eric

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From: "Stephen R. Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Troubles with ATAPI CDROM driver and weird network troubles <tulip card>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:11:23 -0500

I upgraded my computer from a pentium 150 to a Duron 800.
This network card worked sporatically on the P150
However it seems to have a continuous loop of reseting the network and 
reporting The following error:
eth0 TX hung, 15vs, 0,
eth0 Transmit timed out, status e466006, CSR12 00000341, resetting...
eth0 TX hung, 15vs, 0,
eth0 Transmit timed out, status e466006, CSR12 00000341, resetting...
eth0 Transmit timed out, status e466006, CSR12 00000341, resetting...
eth0 Transmit timed out, status e466006, CSR12 00000341, resetting...
eth0 Transmit timed out, status e466006, CSR12 00000341, resetting...
eth0 Transmit timed out, status e466006, CSR12 00000341, resetting...

I have installed a new EIDE cdrom into the same computer, it seems to 
allow me to use modprobe to load the drivers, and when I load said 
driver and load the iso9660 fs with modprobe I seem to not be able to 
get either to allow me to mount it. It complains I don't have the proper 
driver and I don't have the proper FS loaded.

Clue me in on how this should work.. and if I am supposed to pass 
parameters to the modules, how the heck do you find out the modules 
parameters to be passed with modprobe?

I am currently doing the following.
/sbin/modprobe cdrom
/sbin/modprobe isofs
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc


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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:17:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Arctic Storm wrote:
> 
> > > How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ?
> >
> > Edit the file /etc/lilo.conf, change the line boot=/dev/hda to point
> > to your boot partition (/dev/hda0, or whatever), then run /sbin/lilo
> 
> You seem to have misunderstood my question.
> The LILO boot record is placed on the MBR by Mandrake.
> MBR originally had info regarding Win2K boot, but now, it has LILO boot
> record.
> Your proposal does not correct the problem.

It did answer you're question though.
If it's not what you wanted to know, you should ask a clearer question.

/boot/boot.0300 holds the original MBR. put it back, and use the boot=
line to
place LILO on the bootsector of the partition.

Eric

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition problem
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:35:43 GMT

Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (1) My question is whether I can create more than 16 logical drives for an
> extended partition?

> In fact, I have tried to create the special files (using mknod command) for
> the 17th logical drive, but failed.

Mknod will let you do anything you like, so this is, on the face of it,
a lie. mknod /dev/hda16 b 3 16 works fine, for example.

How the kernel wishes to interpret that minor is up to the driver. Read
devices.txt for more info. I believe the IDE driver treats it A-OK.

If you are talking about scsi, that is a different matter.

> (2) Another question is for having a 30GB RAID disk, and I would like to
> divide the disk into 150 partitions and each have 200MB in size. Is it

In what way is this a different question?

Peter

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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need your suggestion on how many partition for my 30GB hd??
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:27:03 -0500

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, newbie wrote:
>> My question is:
>> how much space for each point...
>>
>While I'm sure others have other ideas, I subscribe to the KISS approach
>for my home machines:  2x RAM for the swap and everything else in /.
>After installation, I create the appropriate directories that were not
>created during the install.  I'm aware that there are reasons for not
>following this method, but for my purposes it seems to work OK.
>
>-Brian
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com
>http://www.deja.com/

I usually set about  20MB for /boot (at the beginning of the drive)
1GB for / (usually overkill) 
300MB for /var
300MB for /tmp
2X RAM for SWAP
The rest should be devided between /usr and /home (/home needs more than /usr).
 Users downloads are in /home (and ftp and Apache, on my Mandrake anyway). 
Programs are installed in /usr (usually, and kernel sources, etc)
--
moonie ;)

Registered Linux User #175104
   (Registered at: http://counter.li.org)

KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
ICQ #83003404
AIM mooniesdl3
MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Steven Burley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux 6.2 with Windows 2000/NT 4.0
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:27:11 +0000

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:19:59 +0100, D Karels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Eureka!!
>
>I finally managed to boot to Linux from the windows2000 boot menu. The problem
>was solved when I downloaded a new version of LILO, installed it and run it.
>RedHat 6.2 comes with version 21, which does not support a /boot partition above
>sector 1024. I downloaded version 21-6.1...<snip>

Can you point a fellow, frustrated Win2k/wannabe Linux user to where
the latest version, and more importantly instructions, can be found.

Hoping to be shouting "Eureka!",

Steve

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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need your suggestion on how many partition for my 30GB hd??
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:33:19 -0500

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, kellyboy wrote:
>It will be used 'mostly' for file server  to store all stuff I use on win98
>since as y'all know how it is...win98 being too crashy an all
>
>but I do use it sometime to perform some function ( that are free in linux
>but expensive on Win98 like free Gimp vs. expensive Photoshop....)
>
>I do plan to get some used part together and build another computer to
>"just" as file server (because I noticed I started to use Linux more often
>than expected)
>
>Im curious...which would you use as "file server" storage space??
>
>Under /home? or make new dir like /fileserver or something like that??
>
>I thought about getting another HD and use that HD and mount it at
>/home/(fileserverspace) (or /fileserver something like that) ...
>
>kellyboy

I usually use the users /home/user directory for shares for windows, but I also
have a 9GB partition setup to share backup info, and mp3's.
--
moonie ;)

Registered Linux User #175104
   (Registered at: http://counter.li.org)

KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
ICQ #83003404
AIM mooniesdl3
MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,redhat.general
Subject: pppd
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 02:34:56 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am running pppd in my inittab and it does not exit and run the ip-up
script, so my firewall and squid and dynamic dns do not work.

I have checked the file permissions and they look good.

What have I missed?

Jeff Moore


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (imbsysop)
Subject: Re: ftape - zftape help ? someone ?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:41:58 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>imbsysop wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I'm trying to get a Ditto 800 paralel tape drive operational. so far with no
>> success !
snip
>The parallel needs to have interrupt enabled. You can try
>
> 'echo 7 >/proc/parport/0/irq'
>
>That should enbale irq 7 for lp0
>
>It may not compile on stock RH 7. they shipped a broken gcc that
>doesn't compile the kernel, so it not compile something like ftape

Thnx for the info but after some nightly hours I got it working. It needed 
some twisted thinking though !

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From: "luxun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] Default font setup in linux
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:12:39 +0900

Hello,

I have question about X11's default Fonts.

I appreciate if someone in help me
 
I know where X11 fonts located and fonts setup in program  like xterm. 

But some program's font can't setup . 

That program seems to use X-windows default fonts.

I want to know how setup X-windows default fonts.
 
Can anyone give me some help?  Thanks a lot.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: How to kill childs of daemons automatically?
Date: 29 Jan 2001 09:24:03 GMT

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:14:13 +0530, Thomas Breitfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hallo world,
>
>I have a daemon process that starts many child
>processes periodically. Under some cirumstances 
>the daemon might die/crash. This causes my childs
>to become orphans and I have to kill them manually
>in order to get rid of them. 
>I'm looking for a solution that kills all the childs
>of my daemon automatically.
>How can that be achieved? Is there any standard tool
>for that. I also have access to the code of the 
>daemon and could alter it if neccessary.
>



If you let the main deamon process create its own process group
and also session id then you will be able to kill all the children
be killing the process group.  To kill a process group you pass the
process group number as a negative number to the kill command,

For example to kill everyghing in process group 1234 do:

kill -15 -1234

or

kill -TERM -1234


Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: kernel Q: "maximal mount count reached, forcing fsck" -- set/detected where?
Date: 29 Jan 2001 04:31:33 -0500

[crossposted]

I've been seeing this message for years.  It's very useful, and obviously
a Safe Thing To Do for your system.

In my current circumstances, however, I'm forced to reboot about twice
a day.  (Don't ask, it's not Linux's fault, it's not a hardware problem.
Political reasons.)  Which means that I have to wait for a 60+GB partition
to fsck way more often than I need to.

In the kernel source, I've found that fs/ext2/super.c contains code to check
this, but only in read-only mode, and if triggered, only prints a warning.
Where is the code that, if triggered, actually fires off the fsck?  I would
hope that it's checking the same counter, but you never know...

I found a EXT2_DFL_MAX_MNT_COUNT preproc macro elsewhere; it's currently
set to 20.  Before I increase that, rebuild the kernel, and reboot 20
times to see if it *doesn't* cause a fsck, could someone tell me if I'm
on the right track?


Much thanks,
Phil

-- 
pedwards at disaster dot jaj dot com  |  pme at sources dot redhat dot com
devphil at several other less interesting addresses in various dot domains
The gods do not protect fools.  Fools are protected by more capable fools.


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From: Jean-Stephane Lebrun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Alpha
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:46:03 +0100

Hi,

Is it possible to install Linux on the station the description of which
is following ?
If yes, what distribution of Linux do I have to use ?

Thanks,

Jean-St�phane Lebrun

Manufacturer:         Digital Alpha (Digital Unix) 600 MHz
Node:                 smalto
Model:
OS Level:             V4.0D
X11 Level:            OSFX11425
Motif Version:        1.2.4
Window Manager:       CDE (OSFCDEDT425)
3D Graphics Library:  O3DDWSBASE460
Graphics Board:       PowerStorm4D60T
Installed RAM:         512 Mbytes
Free Tmp Space:       835363 kbytes

Swap Space:

Total swap allocation:
    Allocated space:        98304 pages (768MB)
    In-use space:            1239 pages (  1%)Filesystem
1024-blocks        Used   Available Capacity  Mounted on
 Available space:        97065 pages ( 98%)



/dev/rz16a       126927       77301       36933    68%    /
/proc                 0           0           0   100%    /proc
/dev/rz16g       993023      771508      122212    87%    /usr
/dev/rz16h      2180406     1034176      928189    53%    /user2
/dev/rz17c      4064118     2822343      835363    78%    /user1

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: kernel Q: "maximal mount count reached, forcing fsck" -- set/detected 
where?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:02:26 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Phil Edwards wrote:
> 
> [crossposted]
> 
> I've been seeing this message for years.  It's very useful, and obviously
> a Safe Thing To Do for your system.
> 
> In my current circumstances, however, I'm forced to reboot about twice
> a day.  (Don't ask, it's not Linux's fault, it's not a hardware problem.
> Political reasons.)  Which means that I have to wait for a 60+GB partition
> to fsck way more often than I need to.
> 
> In the kernel source, I've found that fs/ext2/super.c contains code to check
> this, but only in read-only mode, and if triggered, only prints a warning.
> Where is the code that, if triggered, actually fires off the fsck?  I would
> hope that it's checking the same counter, but you never know...
> 
> I found a EXT2_DFL_MAX_MNT_COUNT preproc macro elsewhere; it's currently
> set to 20.  Before I increase that, rebuild the kernel, and reboot 20
> times to see if it *doesn't* cause a fsck, could someone tell me if I'm
> on the right track?
> 
> Much thanks,
> Phil
> 

try `man tune2fs` first.

Eric

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From: "James L. Terman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting up USB in 2.2.18 kernel
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 02:15:00 -0800

I am trying to get USB working with the 2.2.18 kernel. If anybody has a
good link to point me too, I would appreciate it. When I try mounting:

# mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb
# ls -l  /proc/bus/usb
total 32
-r--r--r--    1 root     root            0 Jan 28 22:22 devices
-r--r--r--    1 root     root            0 Jan 28 22:22 drivers
#

>From the docs that I have read at linux-usb.org I would expect that I
should get a directory for the controller. What more do I need to do?

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From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: agpgart
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:11:28 -0000

I've been fiddling with this, trying to get 3d acceleration going on my ATI
Xpert2000 (rage128). As far as I can see I've got all the required stuff in
the XF86Config-4 file. There is a line about modules that says it should
load DRI, but when I fire up X and then quit again, amid the X server
messages there is an entry that says something like "Could not start DRI" or
similar. Sorry for the vagueness. I'm at work and my linux box is far far
away.

Adam




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