Linux-Setup Digest #561, Volume #20               Sat, 3 Feb 01 20:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: Mouse pointer is a blank box (James)
  Re: Zip command (Mark Bratcher)
  How to make Samba start on RH6.2 system start?? (Bo Berglund)
  Re: How to make Samba start on RH6.2 system start?? (David)
  Redhat 6.2 Network HowTO??? (Newbie to Linux) ("Wade Lindsey")
  installing sound card via Gnome. (harry weston)
  Re: Mouse pointer is a blank box ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Mouse pointer is a blank box ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Redhat 6.2 Network HowTO??? (Newbie to Linux) (David)
  Re: sending mail from shell w/o sendmail ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: inetd is missing. Help ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Distribution Decision ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Distribution Decision ("Cameron Kerr")
  Linux thin client to W2k Pro? ("Trebor")
  Re: Distribution Decision (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: What is this:" DriveReady SeekComplete Error" ? ("Cameron Kerr")
  Re: How to Kill News (Jonathan Kamens)
  Re: How to make Samba start on RH6.2 system start?? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Linux thin client to W2k Pro? (E J)
  Re: How can I get the newest version of LILO? (Noble Pepper)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James)
Subject: Re: Mouse pointer is a blank box
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 19:59:32 GMT

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:05:19 +1100, Malcolm Hudson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Help! only a beginner... would be nice to see a pointer rather than a
>white square blob...
>A Linux Mandrake 7.0 installation with GA-6VXE  mainboard and
>standard(?)
>2 button A4Tech mouse attached (has round 6 pin interface).
>The mainboard "supports PS/2 mouse. BIOS will auto-detect
>whether it is installed".
>

I had the same problem.  When I first set up X, I had my card listed
as having 8192K (which it does).  For some reason, changing that to
4096K gave me a real pointer rather than the white box.

But I have no idea why that was the problem.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Zip command
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:04:30 GMT

On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:13:32 -0000, Simon P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>man gzip
>
>Simon
>
>Anna Gori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hello,
>>
>> coult you tell me what packet I have to install on my linux 6.4 to get
>> the command zip?
>>
>> Or where can I find information about the find of the right packet for
>> the zip command?
>>
>> thanks
>> bye
>>
>>
>

Careful... gzip and zip are two different compressions.


-- 
Mark Bratcher
To reply, remove _UNSPAM from my email address
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Subject: How to make Samba start on RH6.2 system start??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:24:19 GMT

OK, I give up!
I have searched the etc directory for some clue to this but I can't
find it. Please tell me the obvious!

I have samba set up just fine on my RH6.2 system except it won't start
on system startup. I always have to log in as root and issue
'/etc/rc.d/init.d smb start' to get it up. Where should I add this
command so it is executed when the system comes up?
Is there a file that controls all of these service starts that I see
flash by when the system comes up? Of course there is, only I don't
know where to look....

Please tell me!

Bo Berglund
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make Samba start on RH6.2 system start??
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:38:37 GMT

Bo Berglund wrote:
> 
> OK, I give up!
> I have searched the etc directory for some clue to this but I can't
> find it. Please tell me the obvious!
> 
> I have samba set up just fine on my RH6.2 system except it won't start
> on system startup. I always have to log in as root and issue
> '/etc/rc.d/init.d smb start' to get it up. Where should I add this
> command so it is executed when the system comes up?
> Is there a file that controls all of these service starts that I see
> flash by when the system comes up? Of course there is, only I don't
> know where to look....


In an xterm enter "setup" and then choose system services then place an
asterisk next to the service you want to start at boot time.

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From: "Wade Lindsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 6.2 Network HowTO??? (Newbie to Linux)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:08:34 -0500

Hey there,

I just installed RedHat 6.2 on a dual boot, and am trying to get on the
network.  I ran netcfg blindly, and added my card with the IP, but I
obviously didn't do it right since I still can't get on.  I checked the
resnet unsupported linux page, but, as luck would have it, the only link not
working was the RedHat setup.  Can anyone tell me exactly how to add network
functionality to Redhat 6.2??  Thanks alot.

Wade




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From: harry weston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing sound card via Gnome.
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:08:28 +0000

Have installed a Crystal sound card in my box. I want to configure same gui wise
using Gnome which I am familiar with. Would welcome a hint as to procedure,
Harry.
-- 
harry weston

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse pointer is a blank box
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 22:35:50 GMT

Malcolm Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

>> Malcolm Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Help! only a beginner... would be nice to see a pointer rather than a
>> > white square blob...
>> option sw_cursor.

>> Video card?  That's what we need to know. Which X server?

> Video card:
>   from inspection of hardware:
>   "Global" (made in China)

Thanks. Now look harder, reading the print on the plastic/ceramic thing
with lots of little wires coming out of it at the center of the board.
If under a heatsink, lift off the sink. If you don't want to do that, run
"SuperProbe". Do that anyway.

>   from xstart &> xstartlog: (probed default vals **):
> (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: ""
> (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: " Multi-frequency that can do 1280x1024 at 60 Hz"

Try not printing the message lines that come from options YOU
configured! (they're marked by **; you want the lines marked with --,
as they indicate probed values). But at least you chose a conservative
setting.

>   from /etc/X11/XF86Config:
>   Identifier "Generic VGA"

That's what you said to it.

> XF 3.3.6

That's useful info. So now run XF86_SVGA -probeonly. Show us the
results. If you don't know how to capture the output, read the linux or
unix or X faq before asking ...

> Thanks for those comments.

I am at a loss for words.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse pointer is a blank box
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 22:35:50 GMT

Malcolm Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Update on my video configuration :-)


> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

>> Malcolm Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Help! only a beginner... would be nice to see a pointer rather than a
>> > white square blob...
>>
>> option sw_cursor.
>> Video card?  That's what we need to know. Which X server?

> S3 Trio 3D/2X not listed on the XFree page,

The S3 Trios should be listed! Look at the chipnumber. Or run
SuperProbe.

In any case, it'll be the SVGA server.

> but S3 Trio 3D shows the X server as XF86-VGA16.

That means *no server available". That's the vga fallbackmode.

> Where does that info go? In the CF86Config file? where?

Don't worry about it. Run SuperProbe and read xfree86.org's card list
again.


> I've set XConfigurator to recognise the 3D/2X card but so far,
> still the same old blank mouse square. We must be getting close though.

Do as I said! Set option sw_cursor.

Is there some reason for ignoring this?

Peter

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.2 Network HowTO??? (Newbie to Linux)
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 22:38:39 GMT

Wade Lindsey wrote:
> 
> Hey there,
> 
> I just installed RedHat 6.2 on a dual boot, and am trying to get on the
> network.  I ran netcfg blindly, and added my card with the IP, but I
> obviously didn't do it right since I still can't get on.  I checked the
> resnet unsupported linux page, but, as luck would have it, the only link not
> working was the RedHat setup.  Can anyone tell me exactly how to add network
> functionality to Redhat 6.2??  Thanks alot.
> 
> Wade


Configure 
/etc/hosts
/etc/hosts.allow
/etc/hosts.deny
/etc/resolv.conf

run netcfg and configure your network.
If using a dialup connection run the modem configuration tool.

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.039% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sending mail from shell w/o sendmail
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:04:31 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't want to have postfix/sendmail running on my linux
> system that's hooked up to the DSL modem.

> But I would like to send emails to MY EXTERNAL email-address from
> cron jobs.   Currently all email just sits in the

So send them. You don't need a server running for this.

> spool directory in obviously machine-readable format.

Tell sendmail not to queue before sending. Should be obvious in the
sendmail.cf file.

> elm, mutt, pine, etc... are all graphical tools.
> Way too big.

Eh! I assure you that elm and pine and mutt are not graphical tools.
Elm at least sends just fine from the command line.

> Mail/mail has no concept of 'smtphost' (right?), since it sends to
> localhost only ?

No .. not really. I think "mail" sends directly via the net. But in any
case, you don't care, since it's sendmail you want to use. But in "send
mail" mode, not server mode. What do you mean by "smtphost"?

> rmail wasn't any better.

> Alternatively how do I use masquarade to cheat Mail
> (so that when it connects to localhost:24, it actually
> goes to the official SMTPserver that my ISP gave me).

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you want to use a
"smarthost" instead of sending directly to the target, set the smarthost
option in the sendmail.cf file.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: inetd is missing. Help
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:35:50 GMT

Imran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed RedHat 7 on a laptop but it does not have the inetd daemon.

It most certainly does! Perhaps you might try "installing it".
But I thought they preferred xinetd.

> It does not even have the /etc/inetd.conf file. The hosts.allow and
> hosts.deny files are fine.

> Where can I get inetd from?

Redhat. Or anywhere. But if they like to use xinetd instead, use that.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distribution Decision
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:35:51 GMT

HockeyChief1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking about getting either Debian, Slackware, or Stormix.  ( Maybe
> some others?) I already have redhat.  Could you please tell me what you think
> about distributions and why they are better than other ones?

No. Read the Distribution-HOWTO.

Do your own research.

Peter

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From: "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distribution Decision
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:51:39 +1300

Distributions have goals, usually different to each other, and appealing
to different people, hence one person's Slackware is another persons
Mandrake, or so to speak.

It all depends on 
1) What YOU want
2) How YOU want to do it
3) How much of it YOU want to do

In addition, some distributions are more cutting edge, other settle for
stability. But overall, its just like buying a suit, its all very well to
look at it on the hanger and judge it, but until you wear it for a while,
and get used to how it feels, you'll never really appreciate it.

So, in short, try them all, but if you want a distribution that doesn't
try to do everything for you, try either a Slackware (7.2 is coming out
soon), or Debian. On the other hand, if you're new to Linux, then perhaps
a Mandrake, or even a (shudder) Redhat. Stormix is ok, the install is
particularly smooth, although I had some issues when it booted X.

Oh, and if you play around with distros, you might want to have access to
a CD-Burner, and a decent net connection, (use mirrors)

HIH -- Cameron Kerr

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From: "Trebor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,microsoft.public.win2000.general
Subject: Linux thin client to W2k Pro?
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:52:44 GMT

Is there a home/small business (read: low cost) solution out there that lets
my redhat 7.0 machine run programs on a W2K Pro machine? I'm interested in
the same model as X Windows, where my RH machine would be a display server
for programs running on the W2K Pro machine. Ideally, I'd like to avoid a
simple 'remote console' in which the one and only Windows desktop is simply
redirected to a remote display device (for example, ATT's VNC). The problem
with that model is you still only have one user controlling the system. I'd
like multi-user access - one person at the redhat machine running programs
on the W2K, while another sits at the W2K's console, running different
programs. Again, a la the X Windows model.

It seems Citrix produces this type of software (metaframe?, winframe?) -
though marketed (and priced) for the enterprise rather than home or small
business. Also, do Citrix server products run only on W2K Server, not W2K
Pro?

Thanks,
-Bob
 Andover, MA



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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distribution Decision
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 11:09:06 +1100

Hi Chief!
Welcome to Linux-land!
One of the strongest points of this OS is it's ability to conform to demands of
the administering person.
So a) What are your demands?
     b) Are you ready to invest some effort in learning to shape the OS to YOUR
liking?

If b) answer is 'y' then the distribution is not important, they are all
Linux/Unix. What are the differences are helper programs to make the install as
idiot-proof as possible. They work 60-70%. So calculate your chances.
Installing different distros means having on hard drive the almost identical
repetitions of the same programs.

Now the time comes to go to school, Linux bell is ringing.

Have fun.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.

HockeyChief1 wrote:

> I was thinking about getting either Debian, Slackware, or Stormix.  ( Maybe
> some others?) I already have redhat.  Could you please tell me what you think
> about distributions and why they are better than other ones?
> Thanks.


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From: "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is this:" DriveReady SeekComplete Error" ?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:59:43 +1300

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andreas Tretow"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
> 
> I recently got this kernel message during boot up:
> 
> Jan 31 16:42:24 locutus kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady 
> SeekComplete Error } Jan 31 16:42:24 locutus kernel: hdc: dma_intr:
> error=0x84 {  DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> 
> Can anyone please tell me what it means and what I can do about it. Is 
> this bad ? Unfortunately I have no clue.

You should tru setting the "Use Multimode by Default" option in the
kernel (I'm running 2.4.1). You'l find it in the Hard drive controller
section.

Note that this doesn't allways fix this, I've noticed.

> Andreas

--Cameron Kerr

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Kamens)
Subject: Re: How to Kill News
Date: 3 Feb 2001 23:10:38 GMT

It would help if you mentioned what Linux distribution you are using
and what version (e.g., RedHat 6.0).

If you are using RedHat, you can probably just do "rpm -e inn" as root
to uninstall the INN package from your machine.

Alternatively, you can delete the News-related files in
/etc/cron.hourly.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make Samba start on RH6.2 system start??
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:50:55 +0100

Bo Berglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on system startup. I always have to log in as root and issue
> '/etc/rc.d/init.d smb start' to get it up. Where should I add this
> command so it is executed when the system comes up?

man init. You need to link it from one of your rcN.d subdirs.

Try using ksysv to do the setup.

> Is there a file that controls all of these service starts that I see

Eh?

> flash by when the system comes up? Of course there is, only I don't
> know where to look....

man init.

Peter

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Linux thin client to W2k Pro?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 00:39:17 GMT

Wine is improving a lot, have you tried moving your windows program over to
linux and seeing if it will
run on wine.  It would be interesting seeing it work on a remote Xwindows.

Trebor wrote:

> Is there a home/small business (read: low cost) solution out there that lets
> my redhat 7.0 machine run programs on a W2K Pro machine? I'm interested in
> the same model as X Windows, where my RH machine would be a display server
> for programs running on the W2K Pro machine. Ideally, I'd like to avoid a
> simple 'remote console' in which the one and only Windows desktop is simply
> redirected to a remote display device (for example, ATT's VNC). The problem
> with that model is you still only have one user controlling the system. I'd
> like multi-user access - one person at the redhat machine running programs
> on the W2K, while another sits at the W2K's console, running different
> programs. Again, a la the X Windows model.
>
> It seems Citrix produces this type of software (metaframe?, winframe?) -
> though marketed (and priced) for the enterprise rather than home or small
> business. Also, do Citrix server products run only on W2K Server, not W2K
> Pro?
>
> Thanks,
> -Bob
>  Andover, MA


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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I get the newest version of LILO?
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:05:04 -0600

Sidibou wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have installed Win2000 and then Suse Linux 7.0 behind the 33 GB
> Position.
> I have so the problem with LILO boot.
> Can you tell me where can I get the new version of LILO!!
> Thanks in advance
> Regards Sidibou
> 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo/

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