Linux-Setup Digest #570, Volume #20               Mon, 5 Feb 01 10:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: Howto backup the linux data to tape ("Duane Healing")
  Re: Socket Listener (arse)
  Re: Stupid question! (arse)
  Re: mandrake x font server.  please help! ("Duane Healing")
  linux setup...pain in the a.... ("Paul McCosker")
  Re: Distribution Decision ("Duane Healing")
  Re: Zip command ("michael.fengler")
  Re: Errors In Partition Table (Werner Fangmeier (ESN Bochum))
  Re: Unable to access or mount hard drive/floppy drive from Rescue mode (Anita Lewis)
  max length of append in lilo.conf ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: linux setup...pain in the a.... (Eric)
  RH7.0 / kernel 2.4.0 / RP3 dialler (Steve Martin)
  Kernel 2.4.1 and Adaptec 2100s (Clement)
  Pine (receving email) from Earthlink ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Installing linux on VERY old computer ("MpWeb")
  Re: unable to telnet from NT, linux OK (gvines)
  Re: Linux POP server & WinNT (gvines)
  How do you setup PPP to dial on demand? ("Newsgroups")
  Re: Is there a word for below novice - need help (John)
  Squid Proxy Server ? (Eric Chow)
  Re: Unable to access or mount hard drive/floppy drive from Rescue mode (Lee Allen)

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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howto backup the linux data to tape
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:06:52 -0800

I'd give "tar" a shot first.

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "wallace"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> 
> I have a HP surestore DAT24,   RH6.2. questions:
> 
> How to backup the data to DAT24?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Wallace

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From: arse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Socket Listener
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:05:04 GMT

thanx

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From: arse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid question!
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:09:39 GMT

it's OK, I am actually a programmer by profession.
i just wanted a little bit of clarification.
Thanx

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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake x font server.  please help!
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:25:29 -0800

Look at the "FontPath" Entries near the beginning of your XF86Config
file (usually in /etc/X11 or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11). There will be a line
that reads "FontPath        "unix/:7100" or something like that - the
port number may be different. Comment that line out and try starting
X again. Assuming you've got other hard coded font paths defined you
should be working at that point. If not, then there's either something
wrong with your font server (misconfigured or not starting on boot) or
your networking (unable to connect to font server), in which case fixing
it gets more complicated. I'm a big fan of font servers myself and
suggest going with one entirely and eliminating hard coded font paths. I
don't know if this is the approach that Mandrake takes though, never used
it.

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <95knlu$jfi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "dan k"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i just installed mandrake linux.  my x windows system worked fine
> yesterday but today it won't start, presumably due to this error:
> 
> _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server error: could not
> open default font 'fixed'
> 
> does anyone know how to resolve this problem?  it's driving me insane!
> 
> thank you very much,
> 
> dan

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From: "Paul McCosker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux setup...pain in the a....
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:24:39 +1100

well i've spent about 20 hours trying to setup this system....because uni
said it's good to have....but when i get to trying to set the modem up on
installation...nothing happens...the goddam modem dosen't even call the
number....but i have no problems with it in windows....then i get to the
printer....of course mine isn't listed so it dosen't work either (its a
panasonic KX-P4430....not as though it came out of the ark).....then i get a
break my NEC multisync monitor is listed ( I almost got excited) but then of
course my crappy old Trident 9540 video card isn't listed.....so i get to
the end of the in excess hour journey to find i have an incorrect
picture....like i see 1 penguin fully and 10 screens backed up at once.....

no wonder this o/s didn't have a chance against microsoft.......

anyway i still need the damn thing but i'm stuffed if i know where to go
from here....maybe i should take up cooking instead of computer science....

any help...advise or recipes gratefully accepted....



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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distribution Decision
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:40:44 -0800

Yep, eventually you'll get to where you know what you're doing - and
you'll run Debian, of course! :^)

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stanislaw Flatto"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cameron Kerr wrote:
> 
>> I think it would be better to say "Pick the one that doesn't get in
>> your way".
> 
> It takes time to find such, actually more than saying like in "Faulty
> Towers"
> "Me from Barcelona, me know nothing!" and picking up a good
> administrative
> book and doing your homework. After few month you feel confident and
> changing distros is not important anymore.
> 
>> --Cameron Kerr
> 
> Stanislaw. Slack user from Ulladulla.

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From: "michael.fengler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Zip command
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:12:56 +0100
Reply-To: Michael Fengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Anna Gori wrote:

>coult you tell me what packet I have to install on my linux 6.4 to get
>the command zip?
>
>Or where can I find information about the find of the right packet for
>the zip command?

Point your browser to http://freshmeat.net and search for "zip"
(you'll probably also want "unzip").

- mike


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From: Werner Fangmeier (ESN Bochum) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Errors In Partition Table
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:54:31 GMT



John,

That's certainly true, but in this case the "overlap" is
somehow "virtual", since the "end sector" settings in the partition
table for the three Linux partitions seem to be incorrect. Looking at
the "findpart" output earlier in this thread, it's "3392*" for all
three, and then they of course seem to overlap (in fact, they are
even "nested"). My current target is to verify if this might work. Of
course, I'll back up all data before, and if something goes wrong, I'm
ready to partition the drive from scratch...

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Werner Fangmeier wrote:
>
> With the overlap condition, Partition Magic is taking the
> cautious way out because it can't be certain where one partition
> ends and the other begins.  Resizing/moving the partions in this
> condition could result in data loss.  The best way to fix this
> (unless you're ready to edit the partition table by hand) is to
> back up all your data, delete the partitions, recreate them and
> restore the data.  Probably not what you wanted to hear,
> though...
>
> --
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Unable to access or mount hard drive/floppy drive from Rescue mode
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:36:03 GMT

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:01:00 GMT, David J. wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am trying to boot my Red Hat 6.2 system (PIII 450 Mhz, linux kernel
>version 2.2.16) into Rescue mode by booting from the floppy drive, without
>accessing the hard drive.  (This is because when I boot into Rescue mode for
>real, I will have just formatted the linux filesystems on the hard drive,
>and the root partition will not contain a /etc/fstab file. Hence
>all the filesystems, including the root filesystem, will not be able to be
>mounted.)  FYI, I'm using LILO to dual boot the machine between Win 98 and
>Linux; hda1 is FAT32, while hda2 is linux swap and hda3 is linux native
>(type 83),
>
>With the Red Hat 6.2 Install CD in the local CD drive and the Red Hat
>Install floppy in the floppy drive, I am able to boot into Rescue mode (by
>entering "linux rescue" at the "boot:" prompt from the floppy).  (Due to
>lack of BIOS support, the system cannot be booted directly from the CD.)
>
>My problem is that after I get the bash shell prompt, I am unable to
>mount or otherwise access any of the filesystems on  my hard drive
>(/dev/hda1, /dev/hda3) or the floppy drive  (/dev/fd0).  In fact, in the
>/dev
>directory, the /dev/hda1, /dev/hda3 and /dev/fd0 devices don't even exist.
>
>Does anybody know how I can boot into Rescue mode subject to the following
>constraints:
>- Booting cleanly from the floppy,
>- Without accessing  the hard drive during the boot process,
>- But being able to manually access/mount the hard drive filesystems and the
>floppy drive after booting.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave J.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I had a different problem with the RH rescue disk.  I found that I could not
use /mnt for the mount point, but had to do 'mkdir /mnt/rh' and use that for
the mount point.  The rescue disk was using /mnt.  But that doesn't look
like the problem here.  I'm curious about it. 

First I'd say you could save a lot of time and energy by getting Tom's like
the one poster suggested.  I also wonder what happens when you do:

fdisk -l /dev/hda

Does that show your partition?  I don't recall having this problem with
missing things in /dev when I used the RH cd for rescue, but I was able to
boot from cdrom.  If you try making those nodes, please report back what
happened.  But, if I were you, I would just get Tom's and be done with it. 
Then you have it all on one floppy and it is really handy to have in
emergencies.  It works better than the cdrom. Only drawback is that you have
to use vi or emacs to edit. RH cdrom has pico which is easier to learn.

Anita

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: max length of append in lilo.conf
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:38:47 GMT

Hi,

What is the max length of append in lilo.conf ?

My line is like this
append="smart2=0x4000 sim710=addr:0x8000,irq:15 mem=40M"

But I am getting only 16MB.

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux setup...pain in the a....
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:26:29 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Paul McCosker wrote:
> 
> well i've spent about 20 hours trying to setup this system....because uni
> said it's good to have....but when i get to trying to set the modem up on
> installation...nothing happens...the goddam modem dosen't even call the
> number....but i have no problems with it in windows....

A winmodem perhaps?

> then i get to the
> printer....of course mine isn't listed so it dosen't work either (its a
> panasonic KX-P4430....not as though it came out of the ark)

search for drivers. do a websearch for it. Ask panasonic for the driver.
Don't complain, do something about it.

> .....then i get a
> break my NEC multisync monitor is listed ( I almost got excited)

hurray.
 (Every monitor is supported, you just need sync ranges)

> but then of
> course my crappy old Trident 9540 video card isn't listed.....so i get to
> the end of the in excess hour journey to find i have an incorrect
> picture....like i see 1 penguin fully and 10 screens backed up at once.....

Use the SVGA server

> no wonder this o/s didn't have a chance against microsoft.......

8-p
 
> anyway i still need the damn thing but i'm stuffed if i know where to go
> from here....maybe i should take up cooking instead of computer science....
> 
Perhaps you're best idea so far.

Have you ever heard of drivers?
Whether or not hardware is supported with an OS depends greatly on the
OS's
the manufacturer supports. This support means: provide drivers.
If you buy a modem that says, supported OS win98/NT, don't be surprised
if
it doesn't work with linux. Buy better equipment if you want support.

Luckily there are a lot of people that want to use the OS of their
choice,
and write drivers for the hardware themselves.

Search the web for them.

Stop complaining and start to take action.

starting points:

modem:         www.linmodem.org
monitor/card:  www.XFree86.org
printer:       I don't know (www.panasonic.com?) try www.google.com

Eric

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH7.0 / kernel 2.4.0 / RP3 dialler
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:02:31 GMT

Just put RH 7.0 (with updates via a LSL CD) on, and
installed kernel 2.4.0 (the "real" one, not the
pre-kernel that comes with 7.0). Under RH6.2, I used
the Red Hat dialler applet under Gnome to dial my
Internet connection. However, when I try to do this
under 7.0, I see a bunch of Gtk+ assertions firing
relating to the GtkProgressBar. Anyone else see
this happening? Any clues how to get this working?

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From: Clement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.4.1 and Adaptec 2100s
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:43:55 GMT

Does anyone use kernel 2.4.1 with that Apdatec raid card?  After
compiling the new kernel with I2O support, I got an error:

# /sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.1.img 2.4.1
No module dpt_i2o found for kernel 2.4.1

Can anyone give me a hand?  Thank you very much.

Regards,

Clement

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pine (receving email) from Earthlink
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:46:29 GMT

Hi

  I am running redhat 7.0, and I want to run pine as my default mail
,this is my first time seting up, I can send emails via my earthlink
account, but I cannot receive them. What do I need to add in order to
receive email?


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From: "MpWeb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing linux on VERY old computer
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:46:59 GMT

Hi James!
I think your only chance is to install a single-floppy Linux...

Bye
Maurizio

James ha scritto nel messaggio ...
>Hi,
>   I was recently given an old 386 from a friend of mine and was wondering
>if and how I can install Linux on it.
>
>Specifications;
>386 cpu
>4 MB RAM
>250MB hard disk
>
>I don't know the clock rate of the cpu, or the graphics card.
>
>Also the computer has no CDrom drive, just a floppy. I think it has a
>network port on the keyboard!! (Thats what it looks like, a little wider
>that a modem port, what else could it be ?)
>
>any ideas on how I could install linux on this?
>It runs windows at the moment so do you think X will run at all?
>I also have a normal windows 98 computer that I'm using now, could I
>install linux remotely using my win98 box?
>
>Thanks.
>       James Lambert
>
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From: gvines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: unable to telnet from NT, linux OK
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:44:10 GMT

Yes, all our machines are in the hosts table.

Michael Mueller wrote:
> 
> Check if your NT box's IP address is listed in /etc/hosts on the RH7 box
> along with a name. If not any trial to contact the RH7 box by services
> provided by (x)inetd may take 4 minutes for the reverse lookup
> (converting IP number into name via domain name services) timeout.
> 
> Malware

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From: gvines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux POP server & WinNT
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:48:17 GMT

Nothing - the connection fails.  In fact I can not telnet to the linux
box from the NT box.  I can ping it (with either IP or hostname).  

John Jasen wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gvines  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have RHL 7.0 set up with fetchmail to get our mail from an ISP, then I
> > set up a pop server in /etc/xinet.d.  This works great with other linux
> > boxes.  But on NT, I get an error that the connection failed.
> 
> What do you get when you telnet to the pop3 port from NT?
> 
> --
> -- John E. Jasen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> -- In theory, theory and practise are the same. In practise, they aren't.

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From: "Newsgroups" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do you setup PPP to dial on demand?
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 07:46:30 -0700

Running RH 7.0 on an Intel platform.  I have a local area network using
samba.  All is working well, except that I need to dial manually to get onto
the Internet.  I'd like to set it up so that if a client machine opens the
browser or email client the the linux box automatically dials out.  I'm
pretty sure it's possible, just don't know how.  Can you give me a shove in
the right direction.  Thanks.

John



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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a word for below novice - need help
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:50:01 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Sam Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Success - so far. Thanks to all for your suggestions.
>
> I opted to go for the 5.1 distro that I have, 7 is on the way. I'll
> reinstall when I get it but I figured I could play around, break a
few
> things, play around some more and then start over.
>

[snipped]

> I've got ftp/telnet across the network from multiple workstations
> (yea!)


Be aware that there are security risks related to ftp and telnet if it's
open across the 'Net. Make certain you lock everything down to
keep out the script kiddies.

You should have two files in your /etc directory that will help:
hosts.allow and hosts.deny. The easy way is to deny everyone
everything in hosts.deny, then allow only those networks you want
in hosts.allow.

Sound difficult? Nah. Here are some samples:

#
# hosts.deny    This file describes the names of the hosts which
are
#               *not* allowed to use the local INET services, as decided
#               by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server.
#
# The portmap line is redundant, but it is left to remind you that
# the new secure portmap uses hosts.deny and hosts.allow.  In
particular
# you should know that NFS uses portmap!
ALL: ALL

cat hosts.allow
#
# hosts.allow   This file describes the names of the hosts which
are
#               allowed to use the local INET services, as decided
#               by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server.
#
ALL: 192.168.
in.ftpd: 192.168.

Replace the 192.168 above with your IP subnets.

One caveat: I haven't run 5.2 in a while, so I can't remember
whether you can use these files or not. Point 2: RH 7 uses a
program called xinetd that's supposed to be better than the above
method. Still, I'm running these files in addition to xinetd on my RH
7 box (old habits, I guess :-) ).

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From: Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Squid Proxy Server ?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:50:24 GMT

Hello,

I use my Linux to dialup to ISP. And I setup a Squid proxy server in
Linux, it can allow all other macahines in the LAN connect to the
Internet(if set using the proxy in the browser).

But, is it possible to allow those machines in the LAN using Telnet,
FTP or other socket ?

Best regards,
Eric


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Unable to access or mount hard drive/floppy drive from Rescue mode
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:08:04 GMT

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:01:00 GMT, "David J."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

(SNIP)
>In fact, in the /dev
>directory, the /dev/hda1, /dev/hda3 and /dev/fd0 devices don't even exist.
(SNIP)

I also use the RedHat CD for Rescue operations.  The problem really IS
as simple as the previous responses suggested: You need to create the
missing /dev/* files using the 'mknod' command.  Get the syntax from
the mknod man page, and get the correct major & minor codes by doing
on a fully functional Linux system:
dir -l /dev/fd0 /dev/hda /dev/hda1 ...

-Lee Allen

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