Linux-Setup Digest #578, Volume #20 Tue, 6 Feb 01 15:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Segmentation fault ("Cameron Kerr")
Re: setup issue: boot partition size too big ("Jeremy Paiz")
Re: INIT: Id "x" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. ("Cameron Kerr")
Re: HPT370 RAID and Linux (IceDragon)
Re: LILO 1023 cyl prob solved - guess how ! (Villy Kruse)
Re: Linux-SMP on FastTrack 100? (Roel)
Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem (Erik Leunissen)
Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem (Erik Leunissen)
Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem (Erik Leunissen)
Re: setup issue: boot partition size too big (Mark Bratcher)
Avatar job scheduler. ("Emanuel Marciniak")
Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner (Richard Snow)
Re: newbie uninstall linux (Prof. Abimbola Olowofoyeku)
Re: newbie uninstall linux (David)
Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem (Alex Yung)
Re: NFS interruptions under 2.4 ("Peter T. Breuer")
linux not booting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: gcc <math.h> ("Jonathan G. Campbell")
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From: "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Segmentation fault
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 05:35:45 +1300
In article <95oh2o$ig4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nicolas DUTEIL"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Does anybody know where the "segmentation fault" comme from ? On my
> suse 7.0, it just happens randomly...I just keep reinstalling Linux. All
> works ok for a few hours and then the "segmentation fault" appears (not
> always after launching the same prog) and I have to lauche manually
> e2fsck after rebooting. When I try to launch e2fsck, I get another
> "segmentation fault" and I can't do anything but reinstalling.
Nico, there is little use reinstalling, as you're just treating the
symptom, not the real problem.
Generally, when you get segmentation faults (which means something tried
to access a piece of memory it wasn't allowed to) in a random fashion, it
can point to one (or more) of several things.
1) Your system had overheated, causing RAM to flip bits. Check that all
fans are operative, and that you have sufficient cooling.
2) You RAM is bad, in which case, just boot with one stick at a time, to
figure out what stick(s) is bad.
3) You have some incompatibility in you're kernel/hardware/driver.
4) You're disk is bad (swap partition). e2fsck -c /dev/<swap_DRIVE>, from
a boot disk (must be unmounted)
Not neccessarily in that order, but pick the easiest one's first. If this
doesn't help, post us the output of the "dmesg" command.
> Nico
HIH -- Cameron Kerr
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From: "Jeremy Paiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: setup issue: boot partition size too big
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:33:52 -0500
okay, so here's my plan: i'm going to configure lilo to boot either windows
or linux. in redhat linux 6.2 installation, lilo installation immediately
follows the partitioning part. i tried partitioning as normal "/",
"<swap>", "/usr", "/home" and "/var", along with "/boot" (which appeared in
red indicating it failed). when i clicked to move ahead to the lilo
installation, the partitioning dialog froze and i was forced to restart.
this happened twice more. my question now is: do i skip partitioning
altogether and proceed with lilo installation? do i leave out the "/boot"
partition? is there something else i should do?
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JEREMY M PAIZ
Software Engineer
Research & Development Division
Welding Technology Corporation
24775 Crestview Court
Farmington Hills MI 48335-1507
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.weldtechcorp.com
Phone: (248) 477-3900 x3362
Fax: (248) 477-8897
Mobile: (248) 568-1592
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From: "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: INIT: Id "x" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 05:42:44 +1300
This happens because it is trying to boot X (as in the X Window System),
but since it is not installed, it fails. Because init had been told to
"respawn" it, it will start it again.. and again.. and again. Eventually,
init will get tired of this, and give that "INIT: Id "x" respawning too
fast: disabled for 5 minutes.". After that if will happen all over again.
You often see this message when you have a serial terminal, and the cable
is disconnected, causing the getty to fail.
HIH -- Cameron Kerr
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From: IceDragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: HPT370 RAID and Linux
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:50:26 +0100
I have the same problem and have try any I have found and nothing will work ...
at this time Linux does not supporting the Raid of the hpt370 (or hpt368). And
Gentus-Linux is SHITT !! Abit tell us gentus will work, but this is wrong ...
They support onle the Chip (hpt366/368/370) not the Raid and at this time the
software-raid is incompatible ... try it in some months ...
Dalon wrote:
> linux does not support the hpt370 raid feature at this time.
>
> http://www.icrontic.com/faqs/kt7faq/kt7faq.htm
>
> Jason Kircher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:Xzqf6.20150$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The short is, can I use my existing RAID-0 setup that was configured by
> the
> > HPT370 BIOS under Linux? I've been doing some reading here and there, and
> I
> > read about Software RAID under Linux, but I don't know if this will work
> > since it's already been setup and works fine under Win98. (I've played
> with
> > Linux before, and I like Slackware. Don't ask why, but it works fine for
> > me, and I've been using Slack for some time, and I'm comfortable with it.
> > Those who go to war over different distributions should consider the final
> > point there...)
> >
> > Here's the internal setup: (All have 1 partition at this time)
> >
> > IDE1: WD75 7.5G HD (Master) hda C: WIN98C
> > NECR 7500 CDRW (Slave) hdb F: CD-ROM (Historical reasons)
> > IDE2: Empty
> >
> > IDE3: WD26400 6.4G HD (Master) hde RAID-0 D: RAID D
> > WD36400 6.4G HD (Slave) hdf RAID-0 D:
> > IDE4: Empty
> >
> > (I know, I know, I should put the drives in the RAID on their own IDE
> > channel, but what's done is done, I may change it to get a speed boost.
> > It's still logically a 12G drive!)
> > My plan is to resize hda1 and make some Linux partitions in the resulting
> > space. My question is, is it possible for me to access the RAID already
> > present in Linux? Do I need any special drivers for it, or would the
> > Software RAID in Linux do the job? I'm just a touch leery about playing
> > around w/o knowing the facts.
> >
> > Any/all information/advice would be appreciated.
> >
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: LILO 1023 cyl prob solved - guess how !
Date: 6 Feb 2001 17:05:27 GMT
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:54:45 +1000, ON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks all !!!
>
>1) Yes I need the new LILO - I will get it from the RH FTP WHEN it is free
>
>2) The prob was that the kernel itself as a file went beyond cyl 1023.
>
>HOW I FIXED IT with my old ver of LILO :
>
We normaly fix this by having a /boot partition if exactly one cylinder
in size somewhere below the magic limit.
Villy
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From: Roel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux-SMP on FastTrack 100?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:24:41 +0100
Hello
My SuSE 7.0 with kernel 2.4 test12 works yust fine, what messages do you
get when boot failes.
Roel
Jong-chih Chien wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Anybody has experience setting up SMP linux for Redhat 7.0
>
> with PromiseTechnology's FastTrack 100 driver?
>
> My system failed to boot to SMP mode, UP was OK. Any fix around
>
> this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> JC
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From: Erik Leunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:54:29 +0100
Micha Gabrisch wrote:
>
> 1 you need a kernel with 'math' emulation > 386 is without a fpu
> 2 for the current distributions, you need at least 16 mb memory
>
> if you just want to see if linux is running on your hardware:
> try 'rtbt' from http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html
> it is a mini -linux with some tools on one floppy.
> bye, michael
Thank you Michael,
I didn't mention it, but an additional FPU is present as a matter of
fact.
Thanks for pointing me to rtbt,
Erik Leunissen
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From: Erik Leunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:51:28 +0100
Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
>
>...
>
> SuSE 6.x requires 16 Mb of RAM to install. Linux itself will run with
> less memory, but SuSE's installation programme requires 8 Mb.
>
> Try using a distribution that requires less memory. I believe that
> Debian's installation may work with 8 Mb of RAM.
>
> You can also try adding more memory, if your system supports it. Used
> 30-pin SIMMs are pretty cheap, and you'll definitely see the difference
> in performance.
>...
Thanks for pointing this out, Yves. I certainly am going to match the
memory requirements.
Erik Leunissen.
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From: Erik Leunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:00:43 +0100
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
Thank you very much Peter. I've supplied additional info below where you
indicated. If you think that this additional information would have
triggered a more specific or even different answer I'd appreciate your
response.
Erik Leunissen.
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>
> In comp.os.linux.setup Erik Leunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > locks up at a certain stage in linuxrc. The stage where the system locks
> > up is after the selection of the keybord settings, and the main linuxrc
>
> How far after? If it's just the setting the kbd, don't do it!
>
This is the very last thing that I did.
> > menu never appears. A manual reset is needed to unlock the machine
> > (<Ctrl> <Alt> <Del> does not work anymore).
>
> > I believe that the very stage at which this happens, could be a clue to
> > the nature of the problem (that is to more experienced Linux users than
> > me).
>
> Only if you show us the command that locks the machine. Sorry .. that's
> up to you.
Selecting an English (either UK or US) keybord is what I did.
>
> > Below, I've described the hardware (in case that this information is
>
> > has also run under Win95 previously). The Linux distribution I've been
> > using is SuSE 6.4.
>
> Try something older .. slackware 3.0 or redhat 4.2.
>
> > Can the nature of the problem (more or less) be deduced from this
> > information ?
>
> No .. I'm surprised it's an ide disk and not an rll.
I built in the disk a few years after the purchase of the original
system.
>
> > ==== Hardware (very old stuff) =========
> > Intel 386 DX 40 Mhz
> > 8 MB RAM
> > 1 IDE hard disk 1,2 MB
> > 1 IDE/ATAPI CDROM (cannot boot from here, alas!)
>
> Try dispensing with the cdrom and see if it helps.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: setup issue: boot partition size too big
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:14:49 GMT
In article <95p91j$a7k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Paiz wrote:
>okay, so here's my plan: i'm going to configure lilo to boot either windows
>or linux. in redhat linux 6.2 installation, lilo installation immediately
>follows the partitioning part. i tried partitioning as normal "/",
>"<swap>", "/usr", "/home" and "/var", along with "/boot" (which appeared in
>red indicating it failed). when i clicked to move ahead to the lilo
>installation, the partitioning dialog froze and i was forced to restart.
>this happened twice more. my question now is: do i skip partitioning
>altogether and proceed with lilo installation? do i leave out the "/boot"
>partition? is there something else i should do?
>
>
Linux cannot run without /boot. You're going to have to get /boot in
there somewhere.
You must be choosing the "custom" or "expert" installation. Why don't
you pick one of the automatic ones ("Workstation" for example)?
--
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From: "Emanuel Marciniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Avatar job scheduler.
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:49:18 GMT
Hi,
Is anyone using Avatar job scheduler..?. I downloaded it from www.vexus.ca
and it looks great. I just wanted to hear any opinion from users of this
scheduler. Also have a setup question (when trying to start window's
interface it gives an followin error:
..error while loadind shared libraries: LibXm.so.1: cannot open shared
object file. No such file or directory
I looked for the file on Linux distribution CD (RH v7.0) and also
http://www.rpmfind.net but could not find it...
Thank you
Emanuel Marciniak
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From: Richard Snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:01:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I try to download and install Linux on my computer, but I haven't got a CD
> burner.
> The only download methods I can find on the net is iso-images or all the
> individual files from FTP, which would take me days to download.
> So I'm wondering if there's any way to unpack or convert the ISO-images to
> individual files without having to burn a CD.
> Or if anyone know of a site to download SuSE Linux 7 as a ZIP or similar
> archive file.
> All help appreciated, and please no answers like "buy a CD burner".
>
> Audun
try www.cheapbytes.com and order a cd shipped to you. ONly a few
dollars plus shipping.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prof. Abimbola Olowofoyeku)
Subject: Re: newbie uninstall linux
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:15:46 +0000 (UTC)
In article <95p4if$h5d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Cat Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> boot with floppy disk, and run 'fdisk /mbr' then.
Just curious - why is 'fdisk /mbr' better than "sys c:" ?
Best regards, The Chief
=======================
Prof. Abimbola Olowofoyeku (The African Chief)
(Author of Chief's Installer Pro for Win32)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.bigfoot.com/~african_chief/
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie uninstall linux
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:31:58 GMT
"Prof. Abimbola Olowofoyeku" wrote:
>
> In article <95p4if$h5d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Cat Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > boot with floppy disk, and run 'fdisk /mbr' then.
>
> Just curious - why is 'fdisk /mbr' better than "sys c:" ?
fdisk /MBR removes lilo.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: Linux on Intel 386 problem
Date: 6 Feb 2001 19:49:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You might want to switch to other virtual console by using [Alt+Fn].
I would recommend checking out [Alt+F3], [Alt+F4] and [Alt+F5]. Those
consoles may provide more meaningful answer. I never used SuSE. But
RedHat, Mandrake and Debian use those consoles for stdout and stderr.
You might find your answer there.
Erik Leunissen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: L.S.
: When booting my old intel 386 machine from a Linux boot diskette, it
: locks up at a certain stage in linuxrc. The stage where the system locks
: up is after the selection of the keybord settings, and the main linuxrc
: menu never appears. A manual reset is needed to unlock the machine
: (<Ctrl> <Alt> <Del> does not work anymore).
: I believe that the very stage at which this happens, could be a clue to
: the nature of the problem (that is to more experienced Linux users than
: me).
: Below, I've described the hardware (in case that this information is
: relevant to the problem), which runs under exactly the same
: circumstances under an old MSDOS 6.2 without problems (the same hardware
: has also run under Win95 previously). The Linux distribution I've been
: using is SuSE 6.4.
: Can the nature of the problem (more or less) be deduced from this
: information ?
: I'd appreciate very much some advice on how to proceed,
: Thank in advance,
: Erik Leunissen
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: NFS interruptions under 2.4
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:48:25 +0100
In comp.os.linux.setup Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ....etc. (bach is the name of my NFS server)
> It also means 'stream' in German. Funny coincidence (server stream ok).
Isn't it "brook" rather than "stream"? Well, yes, I suppose it is the
"brook" meaning of the word "stream". Good translation.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux not booting
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:46:08 GMT
hi
i have a little problem (or a big one). i get the following message from
my linux box: Uncompressing linux...... and noting more. after that, my
computer just freez.
my old kernel (i still have it and it is just running like it should)
was compiled on my old pentium 200 mmx. now i have a new motherbord with
an amd k6-2/500. the old kernel is running on the amd too. when i
compile a new kernel (i think with the same configuration settings) and
run lilo and than reboot the computer i get the message Uncompressing
linux...... but nothing more.
Can somebody help? what could be a reason for that?
tanks for help
oli
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From: "Jonathan G. Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc <math.h>
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 20:57:46 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have installed Linux7 and gcc-2.95.2-3mdk and associated packages.
> gcc seems to compile simple c programs nicely, but when I use
> include<math.h> and the square root function, it gave me the following
> error messages:
>
> /tmp/ccmwjmAJ.o: In function main;
> /tmp/ccmwjmAJ.o (.text +0x2e): undefined reference to 'sqrt'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status.
>
> gcc gave similar error messages to all trigonometric functions. Oddly
> enough it didn't complain about the absolute function abs() !
>
> Can anyone offer helpful advice ?
> Can anyone comment whether gcc is a robust, industrial strength compiler
> ?
Maybe have a look at sections 1.12.1 and 1.12.2 of
http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/~J.Campbell/myweb/cu/notes/c1.a
to clarify the difference between an (object) library (could be math.o)
and inclusion of 'math.h', which merely replaces the 'include <math.h>'
with the contents of a file 'math.h'; essentially, 'math.h' contains the
declarations of all the math. functions (their prototypes), e.g. for
'sqrt()', probably sth. like: double sqrt(double); but no body included.
Also, note the difference between compiler errors, and linker errors
(like the one under discussion).
I have no idea why 'math' is treated specially; it causes no end of
troubles for beginners.
Best regards,
Jon C.
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