Linux-Setup Digest #593, Volume #20 Fri, 9 Feb 01 02:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Etherlink 3c509 on RedHat 6.2 ("ss")
Re: XScreenSaver and NVidia OpenGL ("Robert M. Taylor")
Re: need cheap modem ("Julio")
tape or tape drive bad? ("Darren and Marla Welson")
Newbie : Suggestions to partition a 12Gb HDD (Win2000 + Mandrake) ("Display Name")
Re: XScreenSaver and NVidia OpenGL ("jujubeesRULE")
Re: kernel compile probs. (brien)
Setting up user account on TurboLinux ("News Reader")
Re: Linux on Intel 386 problem ("Matt Rickard")
Can't mount cdrom or floppy. (subuno)
LILO - just L's ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
GCONF (SC Patton)
"pppd call ISP" hogs up my terminal? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
information (Craig Van Tassle)
Re: Is swap really needed? ("g.montgomery")
Re: recompiling debian (newbie question) (Mike Perry)
Re: Newbie : Suggestions to partition a 12Gb HDD (Win2000 + Mandrake) (Stanislaw
Flatto)
Re: Is swap really needed? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Is swap really needed? (Paul Kimoto)
mandrake 7.2, linux 2.4.1 and microsoft intelli usb (Topp Dogg)
Xclock with NO title (Spidy)
Re: please help with kernel build!! ("Robert Fleming")
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "ss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Etherlink 3c509 on RedHat 6.2
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:05:44 +0800
Howdie Wade,
U had the same problem as me but I was running RH 7.0. Due to our ignorant
is that we don't read enought to understand the OS and also be familiar with
the widgets. I went to Redhat website to get the info and they also direct
me to www.scyld.com/network/3c509.html eventually after much tinkering in X
window I found the problem. U need to get the OS to recognise your Nic card.
All the steps are in the X window.
a. Run your Kernel Configuration.
i. Click Add
1. Module Type - eth
2. Define Module
Which Module type - eth0
Which Module - 3c509
b. Run Network Configuration
i. Interfaces Tab
1. eth0 - active is yes
c. Run Linuxconf
i. Basic Host
1. Net device - eth0
2. Kernel module - 3c509
ii. The box beside the enable and manual must must be enable.
Pls refer to the above website for disabling the 3c509 pnp else u will have
a problem.
Tell me how it goes so that I can do a write up for all newbies.
ss
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
p.s. Lastly I also refer to www.linuxdoc.org for answer too.
"Wade Lindsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95ukp8$9pj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey there,
>
> I'm having a problem getting linux to recognize my ethernet card I think.
I
> have everything setup correctly (or so I think) but when linux is booting
> up, when it gets to "Bringing up eth0" it always fails. It says its
> looking for something like " /modules/psmcia/3c509_c.o " , but I checked
> that directory and while it has similar files, it doesn't have that object
> file. Is that my problem? And, if so, can anyone tell me how to fix it.
> Also, someone mentioned to me to check my /proc/pci file. That's empty.
> What should be in there???? Thanks
>
> Wade
>
>
------------------------------
From: "Robert M. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: XScreenSaver and NVidia OpenGL
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 03:10:54 GMT
"Brian C. Kiefer" wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone been able to get the OpenGL screensavers that come with
> Xscreensaver to work with an Nvidia graphics card which has verion .96
> of the kernel and glx driver installed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
Yea. NOT that it works with xlock, though. Upgrading to 4.0.1 broke
xlock somehow such that it won't recognize GL screensavers. I have Heavy
Gear II working so who cares...
--
Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
===================================================
Welcome to SuSE Linux 7.0 (i686) - Kernel 2.2.16 (tty1)
Osprey login:
------------------------------
From: "Julio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need cheap modem
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:19:48 -0500
I don't know what cheap is to you but after going
to CompUSA where all the hardware controlled
modems are > $90 (did you know they now have
external winmodems?) I just went to the closest
hole in the wall clone shop (my brother calls them
chop shops) and got a perfectly good internal ISA
no-name generic for $45 that works just fine. And
I didn't shop around. Probly coulda done better
bet didn't wanna waste my time.
"EzraTay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
..
> Hello all:
> I need a cheap modem to work with
RedHat 6.2.
>
> Thanks .
>
> please email me as soon as possible
------------------------------
From: "Darren and Marla Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: tape or tape drive bad?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 03:30:34 GMT
I have a Tandberg 4220 SLR tape drive and it is supposed to work with
SLR2,3,4 tapes. It also works with MAGNUS 1.0 and 2.5 tapes. I found a
MAGNUS 1.35 tape, same format and size, but different capacity/length. Is
it possible that this tape will not work in my drive? I have not seen this
model of tape on ANY compatibility charts anywhere and suspect it is just an
old tape. I hope I am not doing something wrong, but when I do a:
# mt -f /dev/st0 tell
st0: Error with sense data: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current st09:00: sense
key Illegal request
Additional sense indicates Incompatible medium installed
/dev/st0: Input/output error
Is it possible I need to setpartition the tape or something?
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Anybody wanna trade a tape?
------------------------------
From: "Display Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie : Suggestions to partition a 12Gb HDD (Win2000 + Mandrake)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:30:54 +0800
Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance.
------------------------------
From: "jujubeesRULE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XScreenSaver and NVidia OpenGL
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 03:48:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brian C. Kiefer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone been able to get the OpenGL screensavers that come with
> Xscreensaver to work with an Nvidia graphics card which has verion .96
> of the kernel and glx driver installed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
I suggest that you follow the Nvidia-OpenGL-Configuration HOWTO
(http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Nvidia-OpenGL-Configuration/index.html).
I did back when I had 0.9-5, and they worked. Later on, I upgraded to
0.9-6 and haven't had any problems. So, I would assume that following the
HOWTO using 0.9-6 to begin with should work as well.
HTH...
------------------------------
From: brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel compile probs.
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 22:05:25 -0600
Werner Fangmeier wrote:
>
> Are there no more messages before "make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1"?
> Any hints, why ksyms.c failed to compile?
>
> "reebosak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/kernel'
ok, this is where the errors start happening... then it craps out at the
end.
-brien.
make -C kernel
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce
-m486
-malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586
-DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c ksyms.c
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h:50,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h:19,
from ksyms.c:14:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:6: warning:
`cpu_data'
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/processor.h:96: warning: this is the location
of the
previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:28: warning:
`smp_num_cpus'
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:77: warning: this is the location of
the previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:118: warning:
`smp_call_function' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:83: warning: this is the location of
the previous definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:51,
from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/hardirq.h:23: warning: `synchronize_irq'
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:138: warning: this
is
the location of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:52,
from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/softirq.h:75: warning: `synchronize_bh'
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:142: warning: this
is
the location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h: In function `kstat_irqs':
In file included from ksyms.c:17:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared
(first
use in this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: (Each undeclared
identifier
is reported only once
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: for each function it
appears in.)make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- eschew obfuscation -
------------------------------
From: "News Reader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting up user account on TurboLinux
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:12:25 -0500
I got a copy of Turbolinux server V6.0 when I bought a Linksys router. I
installed it on a Pentium computer and selected default for the most part. I
picked "all-in-one" option which supposedly would install "everything".
Now I am able to boot it up and log on as root. I also found a utility
called turbousercfg to create a new user account. However, when I try to log
on as this user, it keeps saying invalid password (but I know the password
was right). I also try to use rlogin localhost and it says connection
refused.
Any ideas as where I should look into?
Thanks.
--
------------------------------
From: "Matt Rickard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux on Intel 386 problem
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 04:13:02 GMT
Looks like you don't have enough memory for the install. I'd try Slackware,
which should only require 8 megs for the install.
"Erik Leunissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> L.S.
>
> When booting my old intel 386 machine from a Linux boot diskette, it
> locks up at a certain stage in linuxrc. The stage where the system locks
> up is after the selection of the keybord settings, and the main linuxrc
> menu never appears. A manual reset is needed to unlock the machine
> (<Ctrl> <Alt> <Del> does not work anymore).
>
> I believe that the very stage at which this happens, could be a clue to
> the nature of the problem (that is to more experienced Linux users than
> me).
>
> Below, I've described the hardware (in case that this information is
> relevant to the problem), which runs under exactly the same
> circumstances under an old MSDOS 6.2 without problems (the same hardware
> has also run under Win95 previously). The Linux distribution I've been
> using is SuSE 6.4.
>
> Can the nature of the problem (more or less) be deduced from this
> information ?
>
> I'd appreciate very much some advice on how to proceed,
>
> Thank in advance,
>
> Erik Leunissen
>
> ==== Hardware (very old stuff) =========
> Intel 386 DX 40 Mhz
> 8 MB RAM
> 1 IDE hard disk 1,2 MB
> 1 IDE/ATAPI CDROM (cannot boot from here, alas!)
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Remove fake from the e-mail address to reply.
>
------------------------------
From: subuno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't mount cdrom or floppy.
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 03:40:13 GMT
Thanks for the response Eric. For some reason my messages keep
diapearing before I can answer them. I no longer have a /dev directory
becuase I deleted the Linux partition and am going to start over again
with RedHat 7 I think.
Thanks again,
subuno
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LILO - just L's
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 04:45:40 GMT
Lilo spits out "L" repeatedly line after line and
nothing else. I took the same drive to my
machine at work and it booted with no
problem at all. I can boot from a floppy and
access the drive so I don't think its the ribbon
or anything like that. Possible that it's a BIOS
thing? I actually had it running before and
decided to do a reinstall (well, about 4 or 5
really) using the custom setting as I only want
web services running and my drive is short on
space. Somewhere along the line, it started to
wig out. I'm stumped. Any help would be much
appreciated...
grassyass.
James
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: SC Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GCONF
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 05:07:15 GMT
Hi all,
I am trying to upgrade from gnumeric v0.38 to gnumeric 0.61 on my
system.
I'm downloading the sources, and compiling them locally on my machine.
One of the many, many other software packages that I have needed to
install/upgrade during this process is gnome-vfs-0.5.
When I run "./configure", I get this error:
checking for gconf-config... no
checking for GCONF - version >= 0.9.0... no
*** The gconf-config script installed by GCONF could not be found
*** If GCONF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the GCONF_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to gconf-config.
I don't even have the file gconf-config anywhere on my filesystem (I
looked with the "find" command), and I can't find any tarball out there
called gconf-*
Is GCONF part of some other software package/library upgrade?
Where can I find GCONF?
Thanks in advance!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS: I am running slakware 7.0 (and obviously, whatever version of GNOME
that it came with).
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "pppd call ISP" hogs up my terminal?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 05:11:32 GMT
When I 'pppd call my-isp' I get:
Perms of /dev/modem are ok, no 'mesg n' neccesary...
and a long series of "sent [LCP Conf..." and "rcvd [LCP Conf..." lines
which makes my xterm unusable until the session is over.
In a prior linux distribution I got no output on the terminal with
that same command line. Is there a way to issue that pppd command and
have the prompt given right back to me with no verbose output?
If not, is there another way to get a ppp connection on the command
line and have my shell back?
Thanks,
-Tony
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: Craig Van Tassle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: information
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:34:14 -0600
I was wondering if any one could tell me where I can find information on
Z-shell. I am trying to learn the internals of it as well as scripting
and shell commands.
------------------------------
From: "g.montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is swap really needed?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 05:55:09 GMT
Excellent question, and I don't have an answer, but maybe some
observations.
1. I was running my RH7.0 box with 128M Ram and the dutiful
256 Meg of swap (the recommended 2x). As I was getting a
little cramped for RAM, I substituted 512M Ram, and didn't do
anything about changing from the existing 256 M swapper.
2. Now, my box sits here and (if I can believe the Mem: numbers
on "top"), linux 2.2 soaks up almost all the available memory
in sight, even with only a web browser running on the screen.
I know, there are a lot of processes using up Ram, but I bet
if top were to have a total for the %MEM column, I would only
be using maybe 10 % in reality.
3. While a small number of processes are managing to
fool me into saying they are using 505596K out of 508976K
available, the Swap: says that only 5980K is used out of
the 273088K available.
What is going on here? Is this the way it is supposed to work?
Is top really misleading us, and fibbing about the memory
used? I ask out of idle curiosity mostly, since I haven't had
a problem since upgrading my memory. But it is curious that
the memory seems to be claimed for applicaitons, and then
not released, perhaps awaiting a demand or something.
Can anyone explain this behavior?
Gene.
Tad wrote:
> I have one machine with 1 GB of RAM and another with 512 MB...... is it
> really necessary to have swap space? With all the services I run, I feel
> that the actual RAM should be enough to cover everything, without going to
> swap.
>
> -Tad
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Perry)
Subject: Re: recompiling debian (newbie question)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 06:05:14 -0000
On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:26:41 GMT, Wayne Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently downloaded and installed the base Debian Linux system from a few
>floppys. The install went well but I cannot seem to recompile my kernel.
>Some reading has led me to understand that I need a C++ compiler and kernel
>files to actually recompile. (I thought that these would automatically be a
>part of the install).
>
>I need to be able to recompile so I can get my DSL connection working in
>Linux (via pppoe) and finish installing the other modules.
>
>Can anyone please tell me what the actual filenames are and/or the
>directories are that they reside on? I've spent over a week digging and
>nothing yet. Frustration is beginning to set in.
>
>Thanks
>
>Wayne
>
>
>
>
Some things you will need to compile a kernel from sources will be
libncurses5 and bin86. I don't use the debianized kernel sources ever. If
you have a network connection, you can just apt-get the libraries I mention
and then ftp to ftp.kernel.org or something and get 2.2.18. There is a
debian package for pppoe though. Perhaps no kernel compile is necessary?
Try using apt-get to satisfy your thirst :)
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==================
------------------------------
From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie : Suggestions to partition a 12Gb HDD (Win2000 + Mandrake)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:22:36 +1100
Display Name wrote:
> Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance.
Not "any" but such that allow for mistakes later.
a) On pristine drive create Linux primary partition starting AND ending
on cylinder 1. It will be /boot.
b) Install Windows alotting as much as your heart desires.
c) Now create Linux extended partition, type 85, and divide it to /
(root), swap, /usr, /home, /opt - to your liking.
Note: On my box I have Windows installed in primary partition C: and
data in DOS extended (drives D: and E:).
It allows for reinstalling the OS without too much loss.
Kernel/s into /boot.
You have to do the math.
Have fun.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Is swap really needed?
Date: 9 Feb 2001 01:14:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, g.montgomery wrote:
> 2. Now, my box sits here and (if I can believe the Mem: numbers
> on "top"), linux 2.2 soaks up almost all the available memory
> in sight, even with only a web browser running on the screen.
> I know, there are a lot of processes using up Ram, but I bet
> if top were to have a total for the %MEM column, I would only
> be using maybe 10 % in reality.
>
> 3. While a small number of processes are managing to
> fool me into saying they are using 505596K out of 508976K
> available, the Swap: says that only 5980K is used out of
> the 273088K available.
>
> What is going on here? Is this the way it is supposed to work?
Yes. Look at the figures for "buff" and "cached". The system uses "spare"
memory to improve performance. The memory is there; why shouldn't it use
it? Most of it can be made available for processes when needed.
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Is swap really needed?
Date: 9 Feb 2001 01:18:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tad wrote:
> I have one machine with 1 GB of RAM and another with 512 MB...... is it
> really necessary to have swap space? With all the services I run, I feel
> that the actual RAM should be enough to cover everything, without going to
> swap.
(1) You will probably have some processes (mostly daemons) that do
virtually nothing. Why not let them be swapped out to make room for
more buffering and caching?
(2) Reportedly, the memory-management system periodically goes around
and looks for pages to swap out anyway. So there is no harm to having
a little bit of swap space available so this effort is not wasted.
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
------------------------------
From: Topp Dogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mandrake 7.2, linux 2.4.1 and microsoft intelli usb
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 22:24:51 -0800
Is there anyway to get the USB Microsoft Optical mouse to work on a
Mandrake 7.2 install full, Kernel 2.4.1 SMP and Kde 2.0.1 system?
If I select USB wheel mouse the systems will not give me a mouse. On
boot you can see it mounting the USB and the light is on with the
mouse. I am new to linux and stuck on this one. I appreciate any
help.
Thanks,
Leigh...
To E-Mail remove the .NOT to .net
------------------------------
From: Spidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xclock with NO title
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:41:42 +1100
==============D9380D4AF58107A362FEAE05
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is it possible to have an xclock running with borders only and no
title?????
Man doesn't help.
==============D9380D4AF58107A362FEAE05
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
<tt>Is it possible to have an xclock running with borders only and no
title?????</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>Man doesn't help.</tt></html>
==============D9380D4AF58107A362FEAE05==
------------------------------
From: "Robert Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help with kernel build!!
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:11:41 -0700
in the src directory for linux do a find for zImage or bzImage or read the
README file and find the info on the build and where it gets stored. Then
just move the file and change the boot option in the lilo.conf in /etc.
Robert Fleming
"Jorgibilis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I think you forgot to copy the new map file over to the boot directory...
>
> Jorge.
>
> Adam Weeks wrote:
>
> > "Michael V. Ferranti" wrote:
> > Won't boot, please help!
>
>
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.setup.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Setup Digest
******************************
