Linux-Setup Digest #599, Volume #20               Fri, 9 Feb 01 20:13:06 EST

Contents:
  how to learn? (Vegard)
  Re: Booting Linux with Win2K's boot Manager? (Frederik Himpe)
  Re: What does Lilo write to boot= ? (Brian Goodyear)
  Newbie question: sound driver ("RESPAWN")
  Acer 10x4x32 re-writer on 2.4.1? (Blake Freeburg)
  CAPI, HiSax, Diva, RH6.2, kernel 2.2.14 - help ! (John Beardmore)
  RH7 and DPT PM3754U2 (Alex Moen)
  Sound Blaster 16 PCI, setup, etc. (Lyndon Bartels)
  Re: Staroffice 5.1 and Linux on slow machine (TheMartian)
  Re: RedHat 6.2 and Kernel 6.2 on an SMP machine (TheMartian)
  win2k + linux ("Kumaran")
  Re: Is swap really needed? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Change primary disk - fix LILO? (Yves Bellefeuille)
  Boot Magic problem ("Grant Holman")
  Re: Is swap really needed? (Paul Kimoto)

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Crossposted-To: 
alt.2600.hackerz,alt.hackers.groups,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: how to learn?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vegard)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:10:02 GMT

how do I learn how to hack and understand my computer better?

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From: Frederik Himpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting Linux with Win2K's boot Manager?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:14:28 GMT

On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 21:09:32 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I installed Red Had 7.0 on a Dell 866 Mhz PC in the 3rd partition. The
> first partition has Win2000 Professional, the second Partition had
> Win2000 Advanced Server. The hard drive is a 20gig drive. When my PC
> boots, the Win2000 boot menu comes up with only the Server and
> Professional options. Can I change this to boot into Linux?

You can find a complete guide for this in the Linux + NT Loader mini-howto. 
You can find it on www.linuxdoc.org

Greetings,
Frederik

-- 
Frederik's Linux-Mandrake Experience Story
http://www.mandrakestory.cjb.net - http://how.to/mandrakestory
Latest article: Playing AVI movies in Mandrake


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From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does Lilo write to boot= ?
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:20:27 -0500

Eric wrote:


> That means you either have the lilo.conf wrong (check the 0x8* numbers
> again)

> Eric

That was it Eric....YES!

disk = /dev/sda
        bios = 0x80
disk = /dev/hda
        bios = 0x81
#disk = /dev/hdb
#       bios = 0x82
disk = /dev/hdc
        bios = 0x82

My bios skips the cd drive so dhc is 82 not 83.
That's a pretty esoteric bit of info.  I must have read about a zillion 
references to lilo over these last three weeks and you are the first person 
to suggest where the problem could lie.  Thank you.
I am collapsing in a heap.

-- 
Thanks,

Brian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "RESPAWN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie question: sound driver
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:48 -0600

Does anybody know where I can get a Linux driver for a CMI 8338 onboard
sound card?  The 8330 is natively supported in most versions of Linux these
days, but unfortunately those drivers don't seem to work.  Any help is
appreciated.

Justin

--

=============================================================
"If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will."
AIM: respawn76w



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blake Freeburg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Acer 10x4x32 re-writer on 2.4.1?
Date: 9 Feb 2001 16:36:43 -0600

Help,

A friend gave me a 10x4x32 Acer ReWriter, and I can only seem to get it to 
dummy burn.  I am running 2.4.1 kernel on a RH7.0 install.  Here's what I 
get when I 'attempt' to write:

$ cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jvrg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.17
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
0,0,0     0) 'Lite-On ' 'LTN483S 48x Max ' 'PD02' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0     1) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW 10X4X32 ' '7.EZ' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0     2) *
0,3,0     3) *
0,4,0     4) *
0,5,0     5) *
0,6,0     6) *
0,7,0     7) *
scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'SanDisk ' 'ImageMate II    ' '1.30' Removable Disk
1,1,0   101) *
1,2,0   102) *
1,3,0   103) *
1,4,0   104) *
1,5,0   105) *
1,6,0   106) *
1,7,0   107) *

$cdrecord -v speed=10 dev=0,1,0 -data image.img
Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jvrg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,1,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.17
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
atapi: 1
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info    : 'ATAPI   '
Identifikation : 'CD-R/RW 10X4X32 '
Revision       : '7.EZ'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
Drive buf size : 3311616 = 3234 KB
FIFO size      : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data   81 MB
Total size:      93 MB (09:14.62) = 41597 sectors
Lout start:      93 MB (09:16/47) = 41597 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 5
    Is not unrestricted
      Is not erasable
Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3)
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11634 (97:26/66)
    ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
    Disk type:    Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
    Manuf. index: 3
    Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
    Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 318252
    Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 10 in write mode for single session.
    Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds.
    Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
    Performing OPC...
    Starting new track at sector: 0
    Track 01:  81 of  81 MB written (fifo 100%).
    Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 85186560/85186560 (41595 sectors).
    Writing  time:   64.579s
    Fixating...
    Fixating time:   39.462s
    cdrecord: fifo had 1342 puts and 1342 gets.
    cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 973 times full, min fill was 85%.

    The 'writing' light blinks about 1/sec on my box while it's written 
(same as if I turn the dummy flag on to cdrecord), but never does write.  I 
can repeat the process again and again and again... Any hints as to what 
may be going on?

Blake (respond to blake at convio dot com)

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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CAPI, HiSax, Diva, RH6.2, kernel 2.2.14 - help !
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:38:02 +0000

I've put a Eicon Diva PCI card into an Alpha RH6.2 Linux box with 'out
of the box' kernel 2.2.14.


There is evidence of HiSax sources in

  /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/drivers/isdn/hisax

which include a diva.c file.


In /dev I have

  capi20, capi20.00 etc

and

  isdn0, isdn1 etc...


Now, I didn't see any messages about ISDN as the system booted and I
don't see an interface for ISDN in ifconfig, the ppp dialer or the
network monitor.

Might an ISDN need to be plugged in for the interface to initialise or
something ?

None the less for all I know, the kernel may contain the code required
to operate the card, and the card may be know to the kernel and
functioning perfectly.

So, how can I test the card, and how do I get an interface that I can
give an ISDN number, user name and password ?

For afters, how do I configure compression and 128k bonding ?


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

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From: Alex Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH7 and DPT PM3754U2
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:55:57 -0600

Has anyone gotten the DPT PM3754U2 RAID Controller to install with RH7?
I can't seem to get the darn installation to recognize the card.  I've
looked on RedHat's site, they have no reference to this controller, at
least in the Hardware list (it's on the older [6.2,6.1] releases).  I've
also looked thru DPT's site, and found info on installing from 6.0 to
6.2, but nothing newer...

Any help or advice would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Alex Moen
alexm@@@ndtel.com


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From: Lyndon Bartels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Sound Blaster 16 PCI, setup, etc.
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:04:48 GMT

I'm having problems with getting my sound card working....

I'm running RH7.0. I installed a SoundBlaster 16 PCI.

First I scanned these newsgroups, and didn't find any problems *just
like mine*. But i did find some clues....

First I tried sndconfig... It said I had an Ensoniq sound card that's
not supported.

Next I tried sndconfig with "--noprobe --noautoconfig" options. I told
it I had a SoundBlaster 16. It modifies /etc/modules.conf. But when it
tries to install the modules it give me some errors.

I believe I'm at the point where I don't have IRQs and IOs configured
correctly. And I'm not sure what they're supposed to be....


I have attached:

 /etc/modules.conf (as it is currently.) 
 The proper part of /var/log/boot.log file.
 and a capture of /proc/pci

How do I configure my sound card? Where do I get the appropriate info
and how do I interpret it? So I get then put what information into
modules.conf?

Thanks:

Lyndon Bartels


/etc/modules.conf:

alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
alias eth0 3c59x
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias sound-slot-0 sb
options sound dmabuf=1
alias midi opl3
options opl3 io=0x388
options sb io=0x220 irq=10 dma=0 mpu_io=0x330


part of /var/log/boot.log:

Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/sb.o:
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by
incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias rc.sysinit: Loading sound module (sb):  failed
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: init_module: Device or resource busy
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/sb.o:
insmod /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/sb.o failed
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/sb.o:
insmod sb failed
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/opl3.o:
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by
incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias rc.sysinit: Loading midi module (opl3):  failed
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: init_module: Device or resource busy
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/opl3.o:
insmod /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/opl3.o failed
Feb  9 16:40:17 tyresias modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/opl3.o:
insmod opl3 failed

capture of /proc/pci

PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
    Host bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C597 Apollo VP3 (rev 4).
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable. 
Latency=16.
      Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0000000 [0xe0000008].
  Bus  0, device   1, function  0:
    PCI bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C598 Apollo MVP3 AGP (rev 0).
      Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=4.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
    ISA bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo ISA (rev 65).
      Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  No bursts.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  1    IDE interface: VIA Technologies VT
82C586 Apollo IDE (rev 6).
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable. 
Latency=64.
      I/O at 0xb400 [0xb401].
  Bus  0, device   8, function  0:
    VGA compatible controller: ATI Unknown device (rev 0).
      Vendor id=1002. Device id=5245.
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 15.  Master
Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=8.
      Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe4000000 [0xe4000008].
      I/O at 0xb800 [0xb801].
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xeb000000 [0xeb000000].
  Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
    SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7881U (rev 0).
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 5.  Master
Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
      I/O at 0xbc00 [0xbc01].
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xeb005000 [0xeb005000].
  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
    Ethernet controller: 3Com 3C905B 100bTX (rev 48).
      Medium devsel.  IRQ 11.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min
Gnt=10.Max Lat=10.
      I/O at 0xc000 [0xc001].
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xeb004000 [0xeb004000].
  Bus  0, device  11, function  0:
    Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 2).
      Vendor id=1274. Device id=5880.
      Slow devsel.  IRQ 10.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min
Gnt=12.Max Lat=128.
      I/O at 0xc400 [0xc401].

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From: TheMartian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Staroffice 5.1 and Linux on slow machine
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:14:38 GMT

I was thinking of using StarOffice as the windowmanager ( am told you can do
this , will try it and see what happens), its also better at reading word
files than anything else I have found.

As for why change at all, they came to me with problems, bugs in word 95 that
they cannot live with, stablity was another issue. To stay with windoze they
would have to spend a tonne of cash to repalce all the hardware (you cannot
buy office 97, its also so slow as to be unsuable on there hardware). As
price is a real problem with these guys (they are a NPO) the linux idea was
appealing to them.

I tested wordperfect a while back and found it to be unstable, and have
problems with reading some complex word files. Applix words, not seen that
for quite a while.

David
--
Sydney, Australia


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen) wrote:
>
> I use 5.2 on a similar machine from time to time, and while Star Office
> takes forever to load, its response time once loaded is tolerable. You
> need to conserve CPU cycles and memory by using a very minimal window
> manager (nothing bulkier than, say, fvwm) and you should be more-or-less all
> right.
>
> But if these folk only word process, why not just load a word processor
> instead of a bloated office suite? WordPerfect 8 is actually very zippy
> in the environment described above, and so is Applix Words.
>
> And, really, if all they do is word process with word 95, why change their
> environment at all? The hardware as described certainly remains adequate
> for that --they have the licenses for the software, they are all trained and
> productive, why uproot all of that and invest the time and money retooling
> when their current desktop tools meet their needs at least as well as
> what will be substituted?
>
> --Kevin
>
> In article <960k04$lga$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, TheMartian wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >I have several small clients of mine that are running old hardware, all P120
> >or worse with 64MB, 2GB disks. Currently with win95 and word 95, thay want to
> >extend the life of these things, and as they only ever do WP, no lan, no
> >internet etc. I am thinking of installing a cut down linux with Star Office
> >as the only app. Doing this is not the issue, I just have never seen Linux
> >and Star office on a machine this small.
> >
> >I have done this already for severl people, all with P166 or better, the
> >results are better than windoze (no supprise there) on the same hardware,
> >several happy users saving $$$
> >
> >Any thoughts on this?
> >Will it be fast enough for them?
> >
> >David
> >--
> >Sydney, Australia
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com
> >http://www.deja.com/
>



Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: TheMartian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 and Kernel 6.2 on an SMP machine
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:22:54 GMT

I have one of those machines with Redhat 6.2 running 2.4ac7 Kernel.

I installed the new kernel from the source tarball, do you have any
experience with compiling the kernel?

if not RPM's would likely be easier for you, if not as flexable. I do not
know where to find these, but am sure that someone will post the URL.

If you want to have a go at compiling from source the kernel howto is at :-

http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Kernel-HOWTO.html

stuck? email me, and I will try and help you.

David
--
Sydney, Australia

In article <9615kh$4vk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a Linux newbie, so please bear with me.
> I have a DELL 610 with 2 Intel Processors.
> I have RedHat 6.2 installed and want to upgrade
> to the latest kernel. How can I do this? Anyone
> have pointers to resources for accomplishing this?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Sagar
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
>



Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: "Kumaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: win2k + linux
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:41:54 GMT

Hi

I need to install win2k on my comp soon (work reasons).  I was thinking of
doing a full format and installing both win2k pro and linux from scratch.

but anyway... i was wondering does win2k boot fine using lilo(on the mbr) as
the boot manager or should i use ntloader?

thanks

    Kumaran



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is swap really needed?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:08:00 +0100

g.montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Current:  After terminating Netscape all the way, the Mem
> went down to 104 Meg.  I would have expected it to
> go down to 84 Meg again, since the program was not
> in execution. So, I think I lost 20 Meg of dead wood right

No, you didn't. You GAINED it. Please get this before you drive us all
mad. There is nothing wrong. Using memory like that is fine! When
you relaunch netscape again it will start up just like that, because
the executable code has been cached in memory?

OK? Got it?

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yves Bellefeuille)
Subject: Re: Change primary disk - fix LILO?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 19:29:00 -0500
Reply-To: Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, Cris D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What I want to do is rip out that master, switch the slave to master, 
> and simply boot from that disk.

Have a look at the Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To, and if you find it
useful, feel free to tell the authors. ;-)

-- 
Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ottawa, Canada
Francais / English / Esperanto
Fight Spam! Join CAUCE cost-free: http://www.cauce.org/

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From: "Grant Holman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot Magic problem
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:33:30 -0000

I use PowerQuests Boot Magic for a dual Win98 / NT 4 boot.  I've just
created a third primary partition on my HD for Linux and made sure that LILO
went onto that partition (i.e. not over the MBR).  I add Linux to Boot Magic
but it will not boot that partition.....





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Is swap really needed?
Date: 9 Feb 2001 19:34:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, g.montgomery wrote:
>   I won't worry in the future
> that "top" has indicated that I have 400 MB of "stuff" being
> squirelled away in RAM "just in case" the application that
> needed it in the first place ever gets into execution again.
> I'm buying it, because it's probably just the way it is.  But,
> it's does not appeal to my sensibilities to have a rather
> distorted view of the available memory.  Let me call the
> stuff that is squirreled away "trash" for the moment, and
> then let me say that unless I invoke the application which
> converts a portion of that "trash" into a more rapid
> invocation cycle, it is indeed trash.  Top is misleading,
> in that I don't know what of the memory allocated belongs
> to actual processes currently in execution.  There ought
> to be a way to have it both ways - 1.  All the woulda-coulda-
> shoulda stuff saved for a rainy day;  and 2.  Only the stuff
> currently allocated for processes in execution at this time.

Don't you like the output of free(1)?

> Of course, I can conjure up situations where this latter would
> bounce up and down like a yoyo, and have in fact created
> such situations (e.g., scripts on a Sun Enterprise server
> which did literally thousands of separate invocations of
> a small set of processes, one after the other, in which the
> the shared objects used by the processes probably stayed
> in memory even though the requiring process recurred
> and terminated repeatedly)  

Consider a shell script that calls other shell scripts (or likewise for
perl, python, ...).  The interpreter is on the order of a megabyte in
size.  It is useful to keep it in memory between invocations instead of
reading it off the disk each time.

You can also see the effect of buffering by timing repeated invocations of
"find /path/to/somewhere -type f -print > /dev/null".

> Maybe what I am thinking of is a tool to "clean out" all
> the memory allocated to defunct processes.

Why do you care?

Maybe you should read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt, though.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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