Linux-Setup Digest #605, Volume #20 Sun, 11 Feb 01 03:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Help with LILO ("Display Name")
Re: Turning off dialtone check (How?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
A warning Paradise IDE/66 PCI (mlw)
LiLo Question - How Boot > 1024 Cyl? (Lewis)
Re: LiLo Question - How Boot > 1024 Cyl? (E J)
Sound stopped working (Victor S. Miller)
Re: Sound stopped working (Victor S. Miller)
Re: 'at' command check? ("Speck")
'Grub' won't leave me alone... (mroczekt)
How to install scsi module in autoboot? ("Ernest YIP")
help with configuring ssh server to support both ssh1 and ssh2 (Hung Ngoc Lai)
LILO / Windows 2000 - Help ("crash")
hostname ("Tom")
Re: PCMCIA Modem Question ("Matthew John Pope")
Re: Help with LILO ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: too biggggggg (resulotion) ("Eric en Jolanda")
Xwindows use with remote clients (B'ichela)
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From: "Display Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with LILO
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:16:41 +0800
"Mark Bratcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> It's a limitation of LILO. The latest version of lilo does not have this
> limitation.
>
> --
> Mark Bratcher
> Director of Software and Electrical Engineering
> Torrey Pines Research
Hi,
Which distribution comes with the latest LILO ? TIA.
Rgds.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Turning off dialtone check (How?)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:14:44 GMT
In <Fgmh6.6666$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/11/01
at 02:52 PM, "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
>For the benifit of other readers, if the odd dialtone lasts just
>for a short time (like answering services provided by telcos),
>then you just pad the dial string with commas at the start. This
>makes it pause for a while (1 sec?)
Right. Simpler than what I suggested and the first thing to try!
If it fails, then try altering the modem init string. (The place
I'm in requires it.)
F.
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A warning Paradise IDE/66 PCI
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:34:59 -0500
I have a dual pentium III system, kernel 2.4.1.
I had a lock up when I attached a CDROM and a CDR to one channel, and a hard
disk to another. I used a standard IDE cable for the CDS and a IDE/66 cable for
the hard disk.
Under heavy load on the hard disk, and burning a CD, the system hung. The mouse
moved a little, but then stopped. I was also playing with reiserfs at the time.
This happened only once.
I was able to reproduce a situation:
cat /dev/cdrom0 | com image.iso
Where I was able to get corrupt data on the CD while I was working on the disk.
The disk information, however, seemed never to be corrupt. It should be noted
that I am using SCSI emulation on the CDROMs
I believe that one or more of a few issues may be the problem:
The promise card may not play well with CDROM or CDR drives.
The promise card may require the added noise immunity of the IDE/66 cable.
There may be a bug in an interaction between a promise card and the SCSI layer,
and maybe reiserfs.
In my system, IDE 0 had 2 drives, IDE 1 had one drive, IDE 2 (Promise card) had
the two CD drives, and IDE 3 (also promise card) had a hard disk.
I moved the CD drives to IDE 1 (on the mother board), and the disk which was on
IDE 1 to IDE 2.
After this, I was no longer able to reproduce the data corruption, or the hang.
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis)
Subject: LiLo Question - How Boot > 1024 Cyl?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:54:48 GMT
Folks,
I just installed RedHat 6.2 on a P3- 450 that I have. It had only
just a 20GB HD(IDE) as master, with a primary C:\ and an extended and
logical D:\ with Windows98.
I recently bought and installed an additional 40GB drive(IDE),
configured as slave. I put on it a an extended DOS partition, making
the whole drive E:\.
I then used PartitionMagic, and freed up some space at the end of the
drive. I made a 8GB partition for the RedHat 6.2 and swap.
I'm using Bootmagic 6.0 to switch between Windows98 (my wife uses this
computer as well, and want to make it very easy for her to get into
both, mainly Win98). I had RedHat install LiLo to the Linux
partition, not the MBR. (I've used this configuration on a P166, i.e.
using BootMagic 4.0, but now that I think about it, I used a whole
hard drive (6GB) for Linux, not a part of it like I am talking about
now, and therefore I was under 1024).
RedHat seemed to install OK, but I can boot only from the diskette
(when I use BootMagic, I get as far as the 1st two letters LI in
LILO).
Now after reading this newsgroup, I see that I need to have my /boot
on a partition below the 1024th cylinder of this drive. Or do I???
I saw on one post that with kernels > 2.2 (RedHat 6.2 has 2.2.14),
that LiLo supports booting past the 1024th cylinder by using a
parameter LBA32, substituting default for lba32.
I took this to mean the line that says
default = linux
changed to
lba32 = linux
Is this correct? If not, what is?
(I looked on the man pages for Lilo, but they are dated 1995.) I also
took a quick glance at the Lilo mini-howto, but did not see anything
about lba32, or booting past 1024th cylinder. Matter of fact, it said
something to the effect that the kernel had to be under 1024.
However, I could not get this to work (upon running lilo, it
complained of a syntax error).
If lilo doesn't support booting above 1024th cylinder, will this work?
Make a /boot partition of about 100MB (is this big enough for a huge
kernel??? Or way too big??? What is the average size of a HUGE
kernel???) below the 1024th cylinder (probably at the start of the
HD). Then, have my E:\ drive, then a partition for the rest (/, /usr,
/home, etc.), and finally a swap partition.
If I wanted to install multiple distributions of Linux. could I simply
leave about 500MB free (5 100MB partitions, assuming that is what size
I need for a kernel) at the first of the drive (assuming I was going
to put 5 distributions on the HD, with 100MB for the kernel each), and
then leave room for each distribution at the end of the drive? I
would have to shrink my E:\ drive for that as I added a new Linux, but
I bought this drive primarily for backups and Linux.
Is this reasonable? Is there a better way?
Thanks in advance for the input.
RJ
p.s.
Here is some particulars:
Pentium III-450 on a ASUS P2B-F motherboard with 128MB ram
Hard drives connected to motherboard primary IDE channel
Western Digital 20MB(master) = (Windows 98 with C:\ = 8GB, D: = 12GB)
Western Digital 0GB(slave) = (Windows 98 E:\ = 32GB, RedHat = 8GB,
Linux Swap = 128MB)
Bootmagic 6.0
RedHat 6.2 (with kernel 2.2.14)
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The Lewis's
Remove "NoSpam_" from email address if replying by email.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LiLo Question - How Boot > 1024 Cyl?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 04:49:04 GMT
Try getting the latest lilo. It should be able to boot beyond the 1024
cylinder.
Lewis wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I just installed RedHat 6.2 on a P3- 450 that I have. It had only
> just a 20GB HD(IDE) as master, with a primary C:\ and an extended and
> logical D:\ with Windows98.
>
> I recently bought and installed an additional 40GB drive(IDE),
> configured as slave. I put on it a an extended DOS partition, making
> the whole drive E:\.
>
> I then used PartitionMagic, and freed up some space at the end of the
> drive. I made a 8GB partition for the RedHat 6.2 and swap.
>
> I'm using Bootmagic 6.0 to switch between Windows98 (my wife uses this
> computer as well, and want to make it very easy for her to get into
> both, mainly Win98). I had RedHat install LiLo to the Linux
> partition, not the MBR. (I've used this configuration on a P166, i.e.
> using BootMagic 4.0, but now that I think about it, I used a whole
> hard drive (6GB) for Linux, not a part of it like I am talking about
> now, and therefore I was under 1024).
>
> RedHat seemed to install OK, but I can boot only from the diskette
> (when I use BootMagic, I get as far as the 1st two letters LI in
> LILO).
>
> Now after reading this newsgroup, I see that I need to have my /boot
> on a partition below the 1024th cylinder of this drive. Or do I???
>
> I saw on one post that with kernels > 2.2 (RedHat 6.2 has 2.2.14),
> that LiLo supports booting past the 1024th cylinder by using a
> parameter LBA32, substituting default for lba32.
>
> I took this to mean the line that says
>
> default = linux
>
> changed to
>
> lba32 = linux
>
> Is this correct? If not, what is?
>
> (I looked on the man pages for Lilo, but they are dated 1995.) I also
> took a quick glance at the Lilo mini-howto, but did not see anything
> about lba32, or booting past 1024th cylinder. Matter of fact, it said
> something to the effect that the kernel had to be under 1024.
>
> However, I could not get this to work (upon running lilo, it
> complained of a syntax error).
>
> If lilo doesn't support booting above 1024th cylinder, will this work?
>
> Make a /boot partition of about 100MB (is this big enough for a huge
> kernel??? Or way too big??? What is the average size of a HUGE
> kernel???) below the 1024th cylinder (probably at the start of the
> HD). Then, have my E:\ drive, then a partition for the rest (/, /usr,
> /home, etc.), and finally a swap partition.
>
> If I wanted to install multiple distributions of Linux. could I simply
> leave about 500MB free (5 100MB partitions, assuming that is what size
> I need for a kernel) at the first of the drive (assuming I was going
> to put 5 distributions on the HD, with 100MB for the kernel each), and
> then leave room for each distribution at the end of the drive? I
> would have to shrink my E:\ drive for that as I added a new Linux, but
> I bought this drive primarily for backups and Linux.
>
> Is this reasonable? Is there a better way?
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
> RJ
>
> p.s.
> Here is some particulars:
>
> Pentium III-450 on a ASUS P2B-F motherboard with 128MB ram
> Hard drives connected to motherboard primary IDE channel
> Western Digital 20MB(master) = (Windows 98 with C:\ = 8GB, D: = 12GB)
> Western Digital 0GB(slave) = (Windows 98 E:\ = 32GB, RedHat = 8GB,
> Linux Swap = 128MB)
> Bootmagic 6.0
> RedHat 6.2 (with kernel 2.2.14)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> The Lewis's
>
> Remove "NoSpam_" from email address if replying by email.
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Subject: Sound stopped working
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor S. Miller)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:12:49 GMT
I'm running RH 7.0 dual boot with Win' 98 on a Pentium MMX 166Mhz,
with a soundblaster 16. Sound had been working pretty much ok, until
today when I noticed that I don't get any sound at all from the
speakers. The hardware is just fine, since when I go into Win' 98,
sound is ok -- I can play mp3 files, and they sound as expected.
Somehow, I suspect that some setting somewhere has changed, but I
really don't know where to look. Any suggestions?
Victor
Here is the relevant part of dmesg:
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
SB 4.13 detected OK (240)
YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-1996
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Subject: Re: Sound stopped working
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor S. Miller)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:33:52 GMT
More information:
First, The CD-ROM drive works fine with audio CD's -- they play
through the speakers (presumabley though the SB card -- because that's
what the audio out is connected to), but still no sound throuh
applications which used to work like plaympeg and xmms. Here's the
output of cat /dev/sndstat
OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux algebraic.algebraic.org 2.2.16-22 #1 Tue Aug 22 16:16:55 EDT 2000 i586
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Card config:
Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.13) (DUPLEX)
Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL3
Midi devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster
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From: "Speck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'at' command check?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:13:19 -0800
You may have a program called "anacron" already installed
on your machine. It will allow you to run the programs
in serial so they won't overlap. There are also some
programs at www.freshmeat.net that allow execution only
when the system is below a specified load level.
Speck
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrey Shipsha"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We have a Linux machine which we use for calculations. Usually we use
> 'at' command to schedule a stack of jobs to be run over night. However,
> if there are two or more people schedule their jobs for the same night, the
> computer will eventually crash since it slows down running more jobs but the
> following jobs are executed on time. So, they step on each other toes...
>
> I am wondering if there is anything which would warn users trying to use
> 'at' command or at login prompt that there are already scheduled tasks
> by another user. If someone executes 'atq' command it could only see his own
> jobs...
>
> Any advice is welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrey.
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From: mroczekt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 'Grub' won't leave me alone...
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:30:04 -0000
I installed Mandrake 7.1 and played with it for awhile. The fun is over.
Did an fdisk and format on the drive to make everything go away. Lo and
behold - there's a 'grub' still on my drive.
How the hell do I get rid of this guy?
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: "Ernest YIP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to install scsi module in autoboot?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:39:19 +0800
Hi,
I'm newbie of linux & using Mandrake 7.2. I have try to install the
scsi-CDRW to the machine. First installation, the system detected the scsi
module is initio.o but conflict resources reported. I have changed the
module to a100u2w.o from "modules.conf" (harddrake is still held the module
initio) but it can't load in autoboot.
I'm sure that the module can be see by modprobe, the state after lsmod as
follow:
By modprobe a100u2w.o
a100u2w unused
after probe this module I can see the directory /proc/scsi/INIA100
By cdrecord -scanbus
a100u2w (autoclean)
sg
Please help!
cmip
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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with configuring ssh server to support both ssh1 and ssh2
Date: 11 Feb 2001 07:01:09 GMT
Hi everyone,
I am currently running Secure Shell (SSH) version 2.0.13 server
on RedHat Linux version 6.1 with kernel 2.2.18. At the moment,
I have to support ssh clients running on Microsoft Windows using
SecureCRT 3.2 and F-Secure SSH version 1.0. SecureCRT 3.12
supports ssh version 2.0.13 so I am OK there. However,
F-secure SSH for windows only supports SSH version 1. I've
configured the SSH server on the linux box to support both
version 1 and 2 of ssh (ie. by modifying the configuration file
sshd2_config to support Ssh1Compatibility); I could NOT logon
to the linux box using F-Secure SSH. I have the same
problem with SecureCRT if I choose SSH1 connection. This the
message I got back from the SSH server:
Unsupported protocol version received from remote SSH server
(SSH-2.0-2.0.13). Please not that SSH2 servers can be configured
to accept SSH1 connections.
Can anyone show me how to to make my SSH2 server to accept SSH1
connection? Many thanks.......
david
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "crash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO / Windows 2000 - Help
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:36:38 +1100
If someone could shed some light on this problem it will be very much
appreciated
What I had:
I had Windows 2000 installed on my primary drive 'c:'
I had another 20gig drive on the secondary IDE channel with a 4gig NTFS
partition (E:) and a 500MB FAT32 partition for transferring between linux
and windows.
What I did:
Installed linux intending not to install lilo, but create a bootdisk Instead
Red Hat went and installed lilo on the MBR of my C:. It did not ask me
anything about lilo installation as I was expecting it to, all I opted for
was to create a boot disk.
What happened:
I could not boot Windows through lilo. The initial boot options for lilo
were linux and 'dos'. Dos was set up to boot from the NTFS partition on the
second drive for some reason. In linuxconf I removed the dos OS option and
made a new one for windows to boot from c: (hda1). The /etc/lilo.conf file
is consistent witht the changes. However the boot prompt still has only
linux and dos, and not the Windows 2000 boot option I made. So I cannnot
boot windows from lilo, only linux.After alot of mucking around I created a
boot disk for windows, so currently I can boot either OS from floppys but
not from lilo.
Why doesnt the Windows 2000 (hda1) boot option show in lilo, only the 'dos'
option that I have since removed?
I know you can use the recovery console in win2k to fix the master boot
record, as I've done it before. But I cannot get to the recovery console
because 1, for some stupid reason the win2k cdrom suddenly decides it is non
bootable, and 2. I have installed the recovery console as a boot option in
the boot.ini file on the windows boot disk but when I try to run it there is
an error saying that 'ntoskrnl.exe' is missing or corrupted.
Has anyone had a similiar problem or any ideas? I hate having to boot win2k
from a floppy as I use it the most.
How do you completely remove lilo and revert back to the previous mbr?
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From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hostname
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:54:49 +0800
Reply-To: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi, all. I use RH7.0 and I want to change the hostname, but I encounter
problems. My default name is "localhost.localdoamin", I change it to
"soybean.apple" and send email use PINE. I find the email address has
changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, when I reboot it next time,
the hostname has changed to "localhost.locadoamin"! I try to change it to
"something.com", it's ok, the only problem is that it cannot be shut down or
reboot. I change it just do "#hostname soybean.apple". Is it because I
forget anything??
Thanks!
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From: "Matthew John Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Modem Question
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:00:00 -0500
I had serious problems with RH 7.0 recognizing my Ethernet card. I've been
told that RH jumped the gun when they released 7.0 and that it is full of
problems. I would recommend installing 6.2 and not upgrade until all the
bugs are ironed out of 7.0. Just a suggestion!
-M
Jason Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:964lgo$mcc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I recently installed RH 7.0 on my notebook, but I can't figure out how to
> configure my settings to recognize my Motorola Mobile Surfer 56K PCMCIA
> modem. I had the modem working on Mandrake 7 a few months ago, but I'm not
> sure how to set this up in Red Hat. Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -jf-
>
>
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with LILO
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:00:42 +0100
> >
> >I don't know if the following problem is limited to Red Hat or if it
> >applies to SuSe as well.
> >
> >Red Hat's Linux is not able to boot if the boot record is contained in
> >a partition that includes a cylinder count higher than 1024.
> [snip]
>
> It's a limitation of LILO. The latest version of lilo does not have this
> limitation.
>
No true.
It's a limitation of the BIOS.
The newer versions of LILO (v21.4.3 and above) use the extensions that
BIOS'es nowadays have to overcome this limitation.
Eric
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: too biggggggg (resulotion)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:05:01 +0100
> i have an Intel 82810e and when i start x-windows what ever you call
> it
> > every thing is huge i mean huge ive tried all the "suggestions" but
> none
> > work please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
>
> --
> Phillip: Try running "Xconfigurator" from the command line to get into
> the monitor setup. When you get to the "select video mode" page, try
> using the 8 or 16 bit 800x600, or one of the lower modes. You should
> probably reboot. Hope that helps.
>
There's hardly ever a reason to reboot in linux. Configuring X is not one of
those reasons.
To the OP.
What have you tried?
What do you mean with huge? Are you running a low resolution?
Are the characters huge? Is the workspace bigger then your monitor?
Just calling everyhing huge and ask us to help isn't going to work.
We do need more info.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Xwindows use with remote clients
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:10:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forgive my stupidity. I am not a headline editor for a
newspaper.
I did the following trick on a thin client. This trick works
on mary start xinit (just want a xterm for now)
xinit &
in the xterm type
xhost +pinkrose.local.net (the big fileserver)
rlogin pinkrose
at the pinkrose# prompt type
export DISPLAY=mary.local.net:0
fvwm95
works great! but.. How can I automate this process? Possibly using a
graphic login? I have no knowledge of the X11 system at all! nor do I
have any documentation on the xdm program or how to set it up to allow
Xwindows servers on thin clients to use the progrqams on the
fileserver!
Being I use Slackware Linux ver 3.9 Is there good books that
cover this?
--
B'ichela
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