Linux-Setup Digest #614, Volume #20              Mon, 12 Feb 01 09:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: /usr/src/linux??? ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: Entry-level newbie question--which distribution? (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: No compiler found in my RH7 install? (James Rose)
  Can LILO boot windows MBR on /dev/hdb? (gman1)
  Re: RH7.0: "Unavailable Package" Message When Trying to Install Telnet Server (John 
Gotts)
  Re: USB and SuSe 7.0 (Alan Claunch)
  Oh B*m (Steve Trow)
  Re: Linux as a gateway ("Mike Greenwood")
  lpr from console ("Paulo")
  Re: mtrr's or lack of them ??? (os.linux) (Steve Trow)
  Re: Is there TrueType fonts or "vector fonts" for linux? (Steve Martin)
  Unable to log in ("Michel DOMINIQUE")
  Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused (Jay & Michelle)
  Re: Can LILO boot windows MBR on /dev/hdb? (Steve Martin)
  Re: /usr/src/linux??? (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: /usr/src/linux??? (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: RH7 Kernel Compiling Problem - Need KGCC ("Jens Ansorg")
  Re: /usr/src/linux??? (Eggert Ehmke)
  Re: Is there TrueType fonts or "vector fonts" for linux? (Eric)
  kickstart question for premium gurus / 2 identical NIC choice ("Sebastien MARAUX")
  Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused ("benh")

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Date: 12 Feb 2001 6:31:35 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr/src/linux???

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Eggert Ehmke;

 EE> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:18:48 +0100, "Nils O. Sel�sdal"
 EE> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>get the latest(2.4.1) kernel from www.kernel.org save it under
>>/usr/src and unpack it your linux dir. should appear now..

 EE> According to the README in the 2.4.x kernel tree, the
 EE> /usr/src/linux directory shall not be used anymore for upgrading
 EE> kernels. There the library headers shall live that came with the
 EE> distribution, if i understand this right. I installed a
 EE> /usr/src/kernel/2.4.1 directory for this purpose. Seems to work
 EE> fine, but perhaps some guru can shed some more light on this
 EE> issue
 EE> ?!

While I'll have to plead to not reading that readme recently, the fact
is that when the kernel archive is unpacked, it does unpack to
/usr/src/linux.

However as several have pointed out, this 'linux' directory should be
immediately subjected to an 'mv linux linux-2.4.1' or 2.4.2 in my case,
and a softlink then made to linux from there.

It goes without saying that if there is an existing link to 'linux' it
should be removed BEFORE unpacking the new archive, else you'll have an
unclean directory structure, and make will die a horrible death from
that at some point.

Its a good scheme IMO, allowing you to leave previous kernel sources
intact on your drive, they are protected from change the instant you
'rm -f linux' in preparation of unpacking the archive to apply the next
patch, so I'd have trouble justifying that it be changed.

I've even written a dumb script that does 99% of this for me, fewer
typos to deal with that way, and these creaky old fingers can do the
darndest things on a keyboard when I'm not looking...  :)

Cheers, Gene
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Entry-level newbie question--which distribution?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:23:46 +1100



Scott Gardner wrote:

> I'm contemplating installing Linux on my computer,

Welcome to Linux-land!

>
> Here's my system

Not relevant, Linux can be installed on 386 and up, it is fast evolving OS
and new hardware is incorporated daily.

>  Do any of the distributions come with a dual/multi-boot
> program, or do I have to buy/download that separately?

All distribution come with LILO (LInux LOader) which can boot multiple
OS's.

>
> Thanks so much for any help.  My bachelor's degree is in computer
> science & engineering, so I have a fair grasp of the *concept* of
> Linux, but my only experience with Unix has been as a user, not as a
> superuser.  If there are two distributions that would suit my needs,
> and one of them is a little more user-friendly, but possible not as
> pwerful/secure, please suggest the more user-friendly one.  Once I get
> into the swing of things, I'll re-evaluate my situation and consider
> switching.  I'm wanting to install Linux mostly to play around with it
> and see what software is out there.

Here I would like to dissagree. No matter how user friendly is the initial
installation, sooner than later you will go into administering your setup
as root. If you are not prepared for it, it will be frustrating, and you
will have to invest the time and nerves to learn.
So do yourself a favor, like in "Fawlty Towers" say "Me from Barcelona, me
know nothing."
Obtain a VERY good administrative book on Unix/Linux (some "unfriendly"
distribution, Slackware, Debian, S.u.S.E) and start from zero.
In short time you will feel comfortably and start enjoying this OS.
Modem sharing in Linux is called ip-masquerading, beats the MS-Glassware
version hands down.

>
> Scott Gardner
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Have fun.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Rose)
Subject: Re: No compiler found in my RH7 install?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:10:58 GMT


>Each time I try to install and compile a new downloaded program the .
>configure routine crashes with the following text:
>configure:677: checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld
>configure:700: checking for ranlib...:
>configure:730: checking for gcc...no
>configure:760: checking for cc...no

Try:   rpm -qa | grep gcc

Hopefully you will see if you have the gcc package installed.  If you
don't see anything then you need to install the RPM's from the CD or
d/l them from a redhat mirror.

But if you set up this box and didn't install a compiler then you need
to do some more reading of the RedHat manuals to know what packages to
install for which functionality.

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From: gman1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can LILO boot windows MBR on /dev/hdb?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:23:37 GMT

(1)I switched my windows drive(which still has master boot record on
sector 0) to my slave drive B
(2)Then I installed Linux on my master drive A
- Lilo is unable to load windows MBR on drive B?

Can anyone tell me what the deal is?

Thanks In Advance....


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Gotts)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,cern.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc,thenet.support.linux
Subject: Re: RH7.0: "Unavailable Package" Message When Trying to Install Telnet Server
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:33:34 GMT

On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:03:58 +0200, Meron Lavie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yet another comment: Using the rpm line command (instead of doing it through
>KDE or the pseudo-graphic linuxconf utility) succeeds. What's the story?

File a bug report with bugzilla.

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From: Alan Claunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB and SuSe 7.0
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:55:32 -0500

Richard Whittington wrote:

> I am new to the linux world and need help.  I am operating a AMD 750 on a
> Gigabyte mother board with 320 meg of ram.  So far I have tried Red Hat
> 7.0,
> had net work and Modem problems,  Mandrake 7.2, net work and modem
> problems, and now SuSe 7.0 that took my network and Modem on first set up
> and they
> work great.  Now the problem is that on both Red Hat and Mandrake my USB
> worked fine but on SuSe it doesn't.  It says it is loading everything and
> then says that it may be turned off in the Bios and to try to turn it on
> their.  I contacted SuSe and they said that it was strange but they had no
> clue.
> 
> 
If you have the standard kernel 2.2.16 there is minimal USB support- the 
USB mouse may work but that's all. Either patch your kernel or just rebuild 
version 2.4.0 and enable USB support. You can get all your other devices 
working.
                                                                Good Luck
                                             Alan


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From: Steve Trow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oh B*m
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:52:46 GMT

Oh well it was worth a try - thanks for clearing this up.

steve Trow


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From: "Mike Greenwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as a gateway
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:52:35 -0000

To get this setup quickly with minimal reading, see pmfirewall on
www.pointman.org
It's a set of scripts that configures ipchains to do routing (i.e. gateway),
ipmasquerading and firewalling.
Once you've got that working, read the ipchains and ipmasquerading howtos
anyway to understand what you've just configured.

Mike

"George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95nfkn$c2c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Please help me with specific directions to set my linux box running Redhat
7
> ( configured as eth0, lo, & ppp0 ) to act as the gateway for may windoz98
> network (1 box as my main networking computer, 1 box as my weather server
&
> 1 laptop ) to access the internet without using a proxy server setup.
I'll
> worry about firewalling after I get the gateway up and working well.
>
> I know my ppp0 is working.  I know that my windoz boxes see my gateway box
> via telnet and ping'ng.
>
> Ya ya ya ya - No I don't want to search my readme's and how to's.  Don't
> waste your time with flames.
>
> thanks
>
> george
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>



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From: "Paulo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lpr from console
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:06:19 -0000

Hi !

I've 3 printers on network (print servers) and using 'printtool' it prints
directly to printer with no delays (perfect)... but when i try to print
using lpr :
'lpr -P lp1 test' or it takes an eternity or it doesn't print ... ? ...
whats the command that printool is doing ? ...
lp1 is proprinterII,

i've also a laserjet5 Postscript as lp3 ... how can i print to it ... as it
doesnt accept ascii files .... printool also  prints to it perfectly ....
how can i print it .

I'm using lpr in a Mandrake 7.1

Thanks in advance

Paulo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Steve Trow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mtrr's or lack of them ??? (os.linux)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:56:58 GMT

In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10102081341450.13146-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Bernie Whalen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > processor      : 0
> > vendor_id      : GenuineIntel
> > cpu family     : 5
>                    ^
> For a Pentium II this should be 6.
>
> > model          : 8
> > model name     : Mobile Pentium MMX
>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> For a Pentium II this should say Mobile Pentium II. You do not have a
> Pentium II, hence no mtrr's.
>
> > stepping       : 1
> > cpu MHz        : 233.867
> > fdiv_bug       : no
> > hlt_bug        : no
> > sep_bug        : no
> > f00f_bug       : yes
> > coma_bug       : no
> > fpu            : yes
> > fpu_exception  : yes
> > cpuid level    : 1
> > wp             : yes
> > flags          : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 mmx
> > bogomips       : 466.94
> >
> > <snip>
>
> --
> Bernie Whalen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

Oh well - it was worth a try - thanks for clearing up the mystery.

Steve Trow


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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there TrueType fonts or "vector fonts" for linux?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:14:36 GMT

Ian wrote:

> Hi, I have read about that linux use bitmap fonts.
> thats why when i enlarge them they look SO UGLY !
> iam using Linux mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0
> Is there a way to install truetype fonts or similar "vector fonts"

Linux comes with two such font sets, "Type 1" (aka Adobe)
and "Speedo". These font sets should be in the directories
"Type1" and "Speedo" under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts.

To use them, you need to do two things:

  (1) Make sure the directories to these fonts are listed
      in the "Files" section of your XF86Config file. They're
      shown with the keyword "FontPath" beside each; pay
      attention that you don't put a trailing slash after the
      path for each. Put entries for these two directories
      at or near the top of the "FontPath" section.

  (2) The X server needs to know how to handle the fonts in
      these directories. To accomplish this, you must tell
      the server to load the proper modules (*X Server* modules,
      not to be confused with *kernel* modules) to be able
      to read these fonts. Once again in your XF86Config file,
      in the "Modules" section, you need to include entries
      that say (note capitalization):

          Load "speedo"
      
      and

          Load "type1"

Hope this helps.

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From: "Michel DOMINIQUE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to log in
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:14:18 GMT

Hi !

I am facing to a strange (for me) problem. Since I've done anything I don't
remember, I am unable to log on my system. I enter the username, the
password (or return if no password) and I always get
    crypt : operation not allowed
then the system retruns to the username prompt for login.

So, I've linux booted but I cannot enter into the system to work.
So, 2 questions
    1) what is the problem and its solution ?
    2) how to login anyway to solve the problem ? (ie bypass the login
procedure)

Thanks for help.
Michel



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From: Jay & Michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:14:39 GMT

I just went to www.phoenix.com for you. Being up early and it's a nice day
today.
In your andvanced menu it asks : Installed Operating system. select OTHER.



benh wrote:

> I want to install Mandrake on an old Dell Optiplex GL5133. According to the
> instructions, I'm supposed to
> disable plug n play (PnP) OS support so that the BIOS is forced to
> handle PnP. However, there's no option to do this in the BIOS SETUP program
> (it's
> Phoenix 1.10 if that's any help).
>
> Does this mean I don't have to worry about it, or that I need to disable PnP
> manually for each device before installing, or that I need to find a less
> ancient machine?
> In other words, if I just go ahead and install Linux, will it be able to
> detect any of the hardware?
>
>     Thanks in advance,
>
>     Ben


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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can LILO boot windows MBR on /dev/hdb?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:23:26 GMT

gman1 wrote:

> (1)I switched my windows drive(which still has master boot record on
> sector 0) to my slave drive B
> (2)Then I installed Linux on my master drive A
> - Lilo is unable to load windows MBR on drive B?

LILO doesn't need to boot your B drive's MBR; it can happily
boot Win95 from the Win95 loader located in the Windows
partition. I've been doing that here for years; I have
Win95 in /dev/hdb, Linux on /dev/hda, and use LILO to booth
both.

Here's an example of the entry from my lilo.conf file;

other=/dev/hdb1
        label=Win95
        map-drive=0x80
          to=0x81
        map-drive=0x81
          to=0x80
        table=/dev/hdb

When I select "Win95" as the system to boot, the bootstrap loader
(which lives on the MBR of drive A where LILO put it) goes to the
boot code in partition /dev/hdb1 and loads it, which is exactly
what the native Windows MBR code does anyway, so Windows never
knows the difference. Put an entry similar to this one in your
/etc/lilo.conf file and re-run lilo. If lilo seems to have
run successfully, try rebooting and selecting your Win95 OS.

Oh... the "map-drive" entries convince Windows that it's booting
from drive A. Without this, the Windows boot chokes.

Hope this helps.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: /usr/src/linux???
Date: 12 Feb 2001 08:42:28 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gene Heskett wrote:
> the fact
> is that when the kernel archive is unpacked, it does unpack to
> /usr/src/linux.

... if you started in /usr/src.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: /usr/src/linux???
Date: 12 Feb 2001 08:45:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eggert Ehmke wrote:
> According to the README in the 2.4.x kernel tree, the /usr/src/linux
> directory shall not be used anymore for upgrading kernels. There the library
> headers shall live that came with the distribution, if i understand this
> right.

The C "header" files, which are #include'd into source code when compiling
programs, have needed certain bits of information that are specified in
kernel header files, namely, those in include/linux/ and include/asm/.
Traditionally there has been a symbolic link from /usr/include/linux and
/usr/include/asm to directories in /usr/src so that they can be referred to
as <linux/*.h> and <asm/*.h>.

These bits of information also may become encoded into libc (when it is
compiled).  Therefore, when using these header files--i.e., when compiling
programs--it is safest if the <linux/*.h> and <asm/*.h> files are the same
as the ones used when libc was built.  (Header files aren't used when
merely _running_ programs.)
   
>From time to time, the kernel developers may make changes in these files
for their own purposes.  (The kernel does not incorporate libc.)  Thus, it
may be unsafe to change the files in /usr/src/linux without replacing libc.
On systems using the symbolic-link method, the easiest way to do this is to
unpack and build new kernels somewhere besides /usr/src.

Some (mostly Debian-flavored) systems don't use these symbolic links, but
make /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm regular directories, populated
by the appropriate *.h files.  Then /usr/src/linux can include anything you
like.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: "Jens Ansorg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.kernel,linux.redhat,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: RH7 Kernel Compiling Problem - Need KGCC
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:49:05 +0100

"SS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95rfn5$f6f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I want to learn more about this problem and the implication of *not fixing
> it...  Also like to know how someone discover this error and what are the
> most common issue people will see when trying to use the default GCC...

here is one:

USB dies not work when I compile with RH7 gcc but works with kgcc:

when I loda the usb, printer and scanner modules I get a very strange error
message about "something bad happened" in usb ...


does work when compiled using kgcc.

But on the other hand, kgcc doesn't know the target "athlon" ... <sigh>


Jens



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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr/src/linux???
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:58:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 12 Feb 2001 6:31:35 -0500, "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>While I'll have to plead to not reading that readme recently,

Please do it now. The information is new since 2.4.0, it was not mentioned
in 2.2.18.

> the fact
>is that when the kernel archive is unpacked, it does unpack to
>/usr/src/linux.

It unpacks in the current directory. I untar the kernel in /usr/src/kernel
and get the tree in /usr/src/kernel/linux.

>However as several have pointed out, this 'linux' directory should be
>immediately subjected to an 'mv linux linux-2.4.1' or 2.4.2 in my case,
>and a softlink then made to linux from there.

This was the *old* strategy that was valid until 2.2.18. I used it myself on
a regular basis.

>It goes without saying that if there is an existing link to 'linux' it
>should be removed BEFORE unpacking the new archive, else you'll have an
>unclean directory structure, and make will die a horrible death from
>that at some point.

That's clear.

>Its a good scheme IMO, allowing you to leave previous kernel sources
>intact on your drive, they are protected from change the instant you
>'rm -f linux' in preparation of unpacking the archive to apply the next
>patch, so I'd have trouble justifying that it be changed.

You can still do so, but not under /usr/src/. As I told before, I have
/usr/src/kernel for this purpose. /usr/src/linux contains the headers that
were delivered with SuSE 7.0, and I leave them untouched. 

I really would like to have this strategy verified by an expert, I just
*hope* it is alright. However, I upgraded from 2.4.0 to 2.4.1 without
problems working that way.

Regards
Eggert

--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there TrueType fonts or "vector fonts" for linux?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:58:52 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve Martin wrote:

> Ian wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have read about that linux use bitmap fonts.
> > thats why when i enlarge them they look SO UGLY !
> > iam using Linux mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0
> > Is there a way to install truetype fonts or similar "vector fonts"
>
> Linux comes with two such font sets, "Type 1" (aka Adobe)
> and "Speedo". These font sets should be in the directories
> "Type1" and "Speedo" under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts.
>
> To use them, you need to do two things:
>
>   (1) Make sure the directories to these fonts are listed
>       in the "Files" section of your XF86Config file. They're
>       shown with the keyword "FontPath" beside each; pay
>       attention that you don't put a trailing slash after the
>       path for each. Put entries for these two directories
>       at or near the top of the "FontPath" section.
>
>   (2) The X server needs to know how to handle the fonts in
>       these directories. To accomplish this, you must tell
>       the server to load the proper modules (*X Server* modules,
>       not to be confused with *kernel* modules) to be able
>       to read these fonts. Once again in your XF86Config file,
>       in the "Modules" section, you need to include entries
>       that say (note capitalization):
>
>           Load "speedo"
>
>       and
>
>           Load "type1"
>

And you can use the ttf fonts from your windows distribution too.

Eric


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From: "Sebastien MARAUX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kickstart question for premium gurus / 2 identical NIC choice
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:53:30 -0800

Hi!

I 'd like to setup a cluster of 32 stations with kickstart.
Up to there everything goes well.

I want to use my internal intel etherexpress 100 pro network card to boot
from network instead of using an ugly floppy disk for each station.

 Everything would go well if:
I hadn't already another intel eepro 100 NIC integrated on the chipset.

Why?
I'm booting from the added NIC, but when kickstart begins to work, it asks
for the NIc to use to install.
I would like to set this in the kickstart file, how can I do something like
"use device eth1" or something like this.

Don't even think of unabling the integrated one so that the problem is
solved:
I did it, but that means 32 BIOS manual interventions, needing to plus a
monitor
and a keyboard on each station! And it will be a big mess if we add more
stations.

Anyone can help ?

Thanks in advance.

Sebastien MARAUX



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From: "benh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:01:38 -0000

    There is no advanced menu and no option to do with the OS in my BIOS
Setup (Phoenix 1.10 A19). There are 2 pages of options accessed by using
"Alt-P" or something. Unless there's some obscure way to get to the advanced
options?
    Do I need to upgrade my BIOS?

"Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just went to www.phoenix.com for you. Being up early and it's a nice day
> today.
> In your andvanced menu it asks : Installed Operating system. select OTHER.
>
>
>
> benh wrote:
>
> > I want to install Mandrake on an old Dell Optiplex GL5133. According to
the
> > instructions, I'm supposed to
> > disable plug n play (PnP) OS support so that the BIOS is forced to
> > handle PnP. However, there's no option to do this in the BIOS SETUP
program
> > (it's
> > Phoenix 1.10 if that's any help).
> >
> > Does this mean I don't have to worry about it, or that I need to disable
PnP
> > manually for each device before installing, or that I need to find a
less
> > ancient machine?
> > In other words, if I just go ahead and install Linux, will it be able to
> > detect any of the hardware?
> >
> >     Thanks in advance,
> >
> >     Ben
>



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