Linux-Setup Digest #618, Volume #20 Mon, 12 Feb 01 18:13:15 EST
Contents:
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? ("Vann")
ssh client source ("Sanjay Agrawal")
Kernel compile fails in RH7 -- weird error (David Cecere)
Re: ssh client source ("Sanjay Agrawal")
Read man pages (redhat 6.2) (Zhihui Zhang)
Re: ssh client source ("Duane Healing")
Re: Kernel compile fails in RH7 -- weird error (Michael Heiming)
Re: Mail & News Clients ("Duane Healing")
Re: Alsa Driver Question (Gary Daniels)
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? ("Duane Healing")
ALSA and USB ("Robin Kauffman")
Re: Increase INODES? ("Martin Cooper")
x windows screen size ("stuart hinson")
Do I use i686 or i386 RPMs? (Tom Combs)
Re: authentication problems... (Michael Heiming)
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (David Steinberg)
Driver for Lexmark 1020? (root)
Lexmark 1020 Driver? (root)
Re: Read man pages (redhat 6.2) (H.Bruijn)
Re: Do I use i686 or i386 RPMs?
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? ("Peter T.
Breuer")
Re: Increase INODES? ("Michael Faurot")
Re: A7V onboard ata100 install (Rogue2000)
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From: "Vann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:49:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Zsolt Zsoldos"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> 5. Some of the missing packages are not even on the CDs, e.g. cvs does
> not come
> with Mandrake 7.2 Complete. It was in 7.1...
When I got Mandrake 7.2 I noticed that as well. It rather upset me. But
I no longer use it, so I'm fine.
<snip>
> On the other hand, old timer developers like me should stay away from
> it!
>
> Is this a new trend or I just picked the wrong distribution ? Anybody
> care to comment on RedHat 7.x or other distribution's newest versions
> from the developer's pont of view ? Are they also stripped down ?
If you're a developer, RedHat 7.0 will be worse! Argh! They include, by
default, a devel glibc and gcc. Since they are 'in between' official
specs, and not intended for any sort of popular use, many programs
developed for RedHat 7.0 won't work with any other version of linux.
It's insane. There are also 200MB worth of patches, or so, for RedHat
7.0. I tend to shy away from RedHat as it, more than any other distro,
tends to be riddled with bugs and security holes, too.
> Have a good day,
>
>
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From: "Sanjay Agrawal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ssh client source
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:36:46 -0500
- I am looking for ssh client source code. Can somebody point the location
to me.
Thanks
Sanjay
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From: David Cecere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel compile fails in RH7 -- weird error
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:07:32 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings,
The 2.2.16-22 kernel appears to compile normally all the way up to the
point where it attemps to create the compressed file (vmlinuz). The
make program craps out as follows:
make[1]: as86: Command not found
make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
I've found reference to the as86 compiler in the
/usr/src/arch/i386/boot/Makefile. It calls as86 as a cross compiler.
It also lists ld86 on the line below. I can't find either file
anywhere on my system.
I currently have kgcc-1.1.2-40 installed and I have hacked my top
Makefile to use kgcc as the cross-compiler.
I have egcs-1.1.2-30, and cpp-2.96-69. All my packages verify.
Anybody?
David
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From: "Sanjay Agrawal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh client source
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:43:48 -0500
- Testing.
"Sanjay Agrawal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:969l2c$km4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> - I am looking for ssh client source code. Can somebody point the location
> to me.
>
> Thanks
> Sanjay
>
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:00:25 -0500
From: Zhihui Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Read man pages (redhat 6.2)
I have a text file that is obviously used to prepare man pages:
.TH mkfs.jfs 8 "November 6, 2000" " " "JFS file system creation"
.SH NAME
.B mkfs.jfs
\- create a JFS formatted partition
.SH SYNOPSIS
.B mkfs.jfs
[options]
.I device
.SH DESCRIPTION
.PP
.B mkfs.jfs
is used to create (format) a JFS partition.
.B mkfs.jfs
must be run as root.
Which command (and options) should I use to convert it into a man page
that can be used by man command. How is this text file created in the
first place?
Thanks,
-Zhihui
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh client source
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:06:07 -0800
Try http://www.openssh.com/
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In article <969l2c$km4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sanjay Agrawal"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - I am looking for ssh client source code. Can somebody point the
> location
> to me.
>
> Thanks Sanjay
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:13:44 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails in RH7 -- weird error
David Cecere wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> The 2.2.16-22 kernel appears to compile normally all the way up to the
> point where it attemps to create the compressed file (vmlinuz). The
> make program craps out as follows:
>
> make[1]: as86: Command not found
> make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] error 127
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/boot'
> make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
>
> I've found reference to the as86 compiler in the
> /usr/src/arch/i386/boot/Makefile. It calls as86 as a cross compiler.
> It also lists ld86 on the line below. I can't find either file
> anywhere on my system.
>
> I currently have kgcc-1.1.2-40 installed and I have hacked my top
> Makefile to use kgcc as the cross-compiler.
>
> I have egcs-1.1.2-30, and cpp-2.96-69. All my packages verify.
>
> Anybody?
>
> David
Hello,
sounds as you have mucked it up, there is a file
/usr/src/linux/Documentaton/Changes which comes with every kernel and
says which version of what you need to compile a kernel.
Unless you are absolutly sure what you are doing, you shouldn't touch any
Makefiles
needed to build your kernel.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail & News Clients
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:11:37 -0800
Mutt is the way to go for email, IMNSHO. I used to like trn, but have
been using pan lately for Usenet. It's a gnome app that is very full
featured. It's still in development and kind of flaky, but it's very nice
nonetheless. If I had to stick to a terminal window, I'd still use trn.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Keith O'Connell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am recently moved from Windows to Linux. As a result of this i am
> finding my dependence on Newsgroups going way up. I am also finding the
> the News/Mail clients under Gnome are not really working out for me.
>
> I have taken to using Emacs as an editor and like it or hate it, people
> will have to agree it is solid, full-featured and unlikly to flake on
> you.
>
> In light of that, can I get some advice on what the "Emacs" of maile
> clients and newsreaders is. I am seeing pine, elm, tin, rn and a host of
> others, but what is generally held to be the market leader in these
> fields. I am looking for stable cli programs that can be happy in an X
> window, and will let me define my editor of choice
>
> What do the panel think?
>
> Keith
>
>
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From: Gary Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Alsa Driver Question
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:19:25 -0500
If I type in gcc the message is No input files
using: rpm -qa | grep gcc ( the return messages is )
gcc-cpp-2.95.2-3mdk
gcc-2.95.2-3mdk
Does this mean I have the utility?
I have searched the Mandrake & How To's sites for info on this but was unable
to find anything
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:21:49 -0800
One word will instantly releive all your pain... Debian.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SofLabs
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Zsolt Zsoldos"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was an enthusiastic linux user for the past 5 years, but now Mandrake
> 7.2 got me really frustrated, so that I have to tell you about it...
>
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From: "Robin Kauffman" <robink@@vortex.bainbridge.wednet.edu>
Subject: ALSA and USB
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:29:16 GMT
Hello-
Is there an ALSA driver that supports the usb-audio interface?
Specifically, I was hoping for an ALSA driver because ALSA supports 24 and
32 bit input and output. Thanks!
-Robin K.
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From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Increase INODES?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:57:09 -0000
Hi,
I don't know a way to change an existing filesystem, but you can set the
number of inodes reserved for filesystem usage using the -N option to
mke2fs. So you would have to backup the contents of the filesystem, unmount
it, create a new filesystem on the appropriate device with the command :-
mke2fs -N 120000 /dev/hda2
replacing the /dev/hda2 with the device name for your filesystem, and the
120000 with the number of inodes you require. However, be aware that if you
make this figure too big, you will have no space left on the filesystem for
files. Having done that, remount the filesystem and restore your files.
Martin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:969061$5qi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just configured an INND server on Red Hat Linux 6.2. I have a problem
> of running out of INODES on the filesystem where the articles are
> stored.
>
> Is there a way to increase the number of INODES without recreating the
> filesystem? If not, what command would I use to recreate the filesystem
> and increase the INODES?
>
> Marco Bayarena, MCSE
> Harris County CTC
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: "stuart hinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: x windows screen size
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:28:59 -0800
I was just wondering what is the easiest way to configure the screen size in
x windows (Gnome desktop). I've been having some trouble with xconfigurator
thanks
stuart
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Combs)
Subject: Do I use i686 or i386 RPMs?
Date: 12 Feb 2001 22:24:07 GMT
Hello,
I'm running RH 7.0 on a PIII and I'd like to add the errata patches.
However, some of the patches come in i386 and i686 flavors and I'm
not sure which is the correct choice. The i686 seems to be the logical
choice but I'd like to make sure. Does anyone know which of these
patches should be used on a Dell OptiPlex Gx110 running RH 7.0?
Thanks, Tom Combs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:41:34 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: authentication problems...
Keith Rhodes wrote:
> This problem has recently cropped up... maybe it's been there all the
> time, but I only just noticed it.
> I noticed it because I've unwittingly created some files with stupid
> names...
> Stupid errors like hitting the wrong keys, putting a space in the wrong
> place... I've got files with names like --help that I can't delete! If I
> try rm --help, of course I just get the usage for rm. But I can't find
> the right quotes to protect it...
> rm '--help'
> rm "--help"
> Nothing works! So I tried gmc, but I get:
Hello,
try
man rm
or
info rm
Good luck
Michael Heiming
>
>
> # gmc
> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols
> specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
>
> I remember seeing authentication messages like this from CUPS, too...
> Is this a PAM (pluggable authetication modules) problem?
>
> # rpm -qa | grep pam
> pam-devel-0.72-13.1mdk
> pam-doc-0.72-13.1mdk
> pam-0.72-13.1mdk
>
> KR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Steinberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: 12 Feb 2001 22:48:15 GMT
Zsolt Zsoldos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Is this a new trend or I just picked the wrong distribution ?
: Anybody care to comment on RedHat 7.x or other distribution's newest
: versions from the developer's pont of view ? Are they also stripped
: down?
Have you taken a look at Debian yet? I would have guessed that a Linux
old-timer such as yourself <grin> would have. It so, did you not like
it? I recently switched from Mandrake, and I am most impressed.
Like you said Mandrake is flashy, but it's not really all that well put
together. Everything doesn't always work correctly, and like you said, it
seems like it's geared towards non-developers. I was also frustrated
that, in 7.1 (the last version I used) the C++ standard libraries weren't
even on the first CD! There are some decidedly unuseful packages
included on the first CD, but no C++ standard libraries?!
Anyways, Debian is built by the community for the community...and that
means that developers and more advanced users matter. There's no push to
have pointy-clicky configuration tools, but configuration is usually
easier, anyway, consisting of a few questions asked in a package's
post-install script. And package management is, of course, superb. To
keep up to date, you just need to run "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade",
and any package updates are applied. To install a new package foo,
"apt-get install foo" takes care of the package and all of its
dependencies. I almost cried the first time I saw it work, it was so
beautiful. :)
People have complained that the installation is difficult, but for someone
with the experience you've had, it should be a breeze. Just remember to
start small with package selection, and then "apt-get" whatever you need,
as you need it.
Enough of my gushing: check out www.debian.org for more information.
--
David Steinberg -o)
Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:36:53 +0200
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,linux.act.newbie,linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.devel
Subject: Driver for Lexmark 1020?
Greeting linux comunities...
I am trying to install a lexmark 1020 inket print on redhat 7.
If anyone knows where I can get a compatable driver or if anyone has
some source code it would help.
Kind regards,
Greg.
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:39:44 +0200
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,linux.act.newbie,linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.devel
Subject: Lexmark 1020 Driver?
Hi all,
I'm looking for a driver for a Lexamrk 1020 injet printer. I am trying
to install it in Redhat 7.
If anyone knows where I can find a compatalbe driver I would help.
Thanks in advance,
Greg.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Read man pages (redhat 6.2)
Date: 12 Feb 2001 22:58:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:00:25 -0500, Zhihui Zhang allegedly wrote:
>
>I have a text file that is obviously used to prepare man pages:
>
>.TH mkfs.jfs 8 "November 6, 2000" " " "JFS file system creation"
>
>.SH NAME
>.B mkfs.jfs
>\- create a JFS formatted partition
>
>.SH SYNOPSIS
>.B mkfs.jfs
>[options]
>.I device
>
>.SH DESCRIPTION
>.PP
>.B mkfs.jfs
>is used to create (format) a JFS partition.
>.B mkfs.jfs
>must be run as root.
>
>Which command (and options) should I use to convert it into a man page
>that can be used by man command. How is this text file created in the
>first place?
As you may have noticed a man page isn't strictly text only, it also
contains bold characters and a certain amount of alignment and text
wrapping. What you see on the display is what is generated dynamically
from the "source" file above.
Placing that file in one of the directories in the man path should
render it properly. see "man manpath" and /etc/manpath.config
The programme used to generate the text file from that source is
groff/nroff/troff which can also be used to generated dvi, postscript
and html output. That's why the manual page is stored in the source
form, often compressed with gzip. The man programme the first uncompresses
the file and then uses the appropiate output filter. That will mostly be
text-output, but when you want to print a larger manual page for future
reference you may want to send it in postsript format to the printer.
nroff -mandoc -Tascii < file
will do the trick nicely. On the console, "nroff -mandoc -Tps < file |lpr"
will print the file to a postscript printer.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Do I use i686 or i386 RPMs?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:58:55 GMT
On 12 Feb 2001 22:24:07 GMT, Tom Combs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>
> I'm running RH 7.0 on a PIII and I'd like to add the errata patches.
> However, some of the patches come in i386 and i686 flavors and I'm
> not sure which is the correct choice. The i686 seems to be the logical
> choice but I'd like to make sure. Does anyone know which of these
> patches should be used on a Dell OptiPlex Gx110 running RH 7.0?
i686 = pentium pro and later
--
Remove 'wakawaka' and 'invalid' to e-mail me. You can thank spammers for this
inconvenience.
I didn't do it! Nobody saw anything! You can't prove anything! -- bart
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:41:41 +0100
In comp.os.linux.setup Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A lot of RPM packages, that I could download from the net were packaged
> with a newer version of RPM and the one included in Mandrake 7.1 could not
Then they were not mandrake packages surely?
> handle them. Funny, that even the new version of 'rpm' was packed with
This is a traditional RH trick. They've done it at least twice before
that I can remember. One was round about RH 4.1 time, if I recall ...
You need a "stepping stone" . in this case it is a special rpm
version that can read the old DB format but unpack the new rpm.
It's on mandrakes (rh's?) site.
> that, so I've seen no way to get around this problem other than upgrade
Well, you could have compiled the new rpm. But why bother? You can
unpack rpms easily enough, and then repack them to your hearts content.
I agree that they were incredibly stupid to pull this trick, but they
were probably completely unaware. Same as RH's compiler trick, no?
> to 7.2 which had a newer rpm in it. OK, I bought Mandrake "COMPLETE"
> the 4CD version from Macmillan Software. Compared to my previous 2CD
> version 7.1. it is rather incomplete!
Yes. It is incomplete. It's a beta meted out to fulfil contractual
deadlines with Walmart. The one on the net is the complete version.
> In conclusion: Mandrake 7.2 provides a very flashy install and boot system,
No ... it's not the mandrake 7.2, it's the walmart package that you
picked up. Hobsons choice.
Peter
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Increase INODES?
Date: 12 Feb 2001 22:51:32 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Is there a way to increase the number of INODES without recreating the
: filesystem?
Not that I know of.
: If not, what command would I use to recreate the filesystem
: and increase the INODES?
Take a look at the -i and -N options in the man page for mke2fs.
Another choice would be to replace ext2fs, with something like ReiserFS
and then you wouldn't have to worry about inode allocation at all.
--
==============================================================================
Michael | mfaurot | I have accepted Provolone into my life!
Faurot | atww.net |
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From: Rogue2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A7V onboard ata100 install
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:15:09 GMT
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 7:54:02 +1100, Frederik Himpe wrote
(in message <K3Yh6.1576$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>):
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:14:22 GMT Rogue2000 wrote:
>
>> I had a link (disk drive died) that showed me how to install Redhat7 or
>> mandrake7.2 with the hard drive connected to the onboard ata100
>> controller. Could some one please post that link again or tell me how to
>> do it. Thanks
> http://www.mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hbits5.html
>
>
>
Thanks
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