Linux-Setup Digest #622, Volume #20 Tue, 13 Feb 01 06:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? ("Tom Wilson")
Re: [Help] XFree 4.0.2 freezes with Linux 2.4.1 (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: text app for serial terminal ("Cameron Kerr")
Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive (Nader)
Re: Mandrake 7.2's KUDZU killed my mouse :( (Eric)
Re: Kernel compile fails in RH7 -- weird error (Michael Heiming)
Re: mandrake install hangs on IDE disk detection ("Shaun Troedson")
Re: Asus A7V + Promise ATA100 + RH7 ("Fabio Garufi")
How do I setup dial-on-demand for ISDN (David)
Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive (Jerome DESMOULINS)
Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive (Jerome DESMOULINS)
Can't delete file (Eric Ho)
Re: Can't delete file ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: x windows screen size ("Rich Somerfield")
Re: Unable to log in ("Michel DOMINIQUE")
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:53:51 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.setup Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > A lot of RPM packages, that I could download from the net were packaged
> > with a newer version of RPM and the one included in Mandrake 7.1 could
not
>
> Then they were not mandrake packages surely?
>
> > handle them. Funny, that even the new version of 'rpm' was packed with
>
> This is a traditional RH trick. They've done it at least twice before
> that I can remember. One was round about RH 4.1 time, if I recall ...
> You need a "stepping stone" . in this case it is a special rpm
> version that can read the old DB format but unpack the new rpm.
> It's on mandrakes (rh's?) site.
>
> > that, so I've seen no way to get around this problem other than upgrade
>
> Well, you could have compiled the new rpm. But why bother? You can
> unpack rpms easily enough, and then repack them to your hearts content.
> I agree that they were incredibly stupid to pull this trick, but they
> were probably completely unaware. Same as RH's compiler trick, no?
>
> > to 7.2 which had a newer rpm in it. OK, I bought Mandrake "COMPLETE"
> > the 4CD version from Macmillan Software. Compared to my previous 2CD
> > version 7.1. it is rather incomplete!
>
> Yes. It is incomplete. It's a beta meted out to fulfil contractual
> deadlines with Walmart. The one on the net is the complete version.
>
> > In conclusion: Mandrake 7.2 provides a very flashy install and boot
system,
>
> No ... it's not the mandrake 7.2, it's the walmart package that you
> picked up. Hobsons choice.
Which you can find sitting on shelves at Staples and OfficeMax as well....
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: [Help] XFree 4.0.2 freezes with Linux 2.4.1
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 06:03:08 GMT
Alex Mezhirov wrote:
> I have problems running XFree 4.0.2 with 2.4.1 kernel.
> XFree 4.0.2 on 2.2.18 works fine (as does 3.3.6 on 2.4.1). When
> I compile 2.4.1 kernel and run startx (with no changes to the
> XF86Config-4), the screen goes black, and the only way out
> is to turn the power off (Ctrl-Alt-BS and Ctrl-Alt-Del have
> no effect).
>
> I have ATI Xpert 128 (16MB PCI), K6-200, generic US keyboard,
> generic 3-button mouse (MouseSystems mode) running Debian woody.
> The distribution should not be important as I set up a basic
> LinuxFromScratch system with the same result (same freeze on
> XFree 4.0.2 with kernel 2.4.0).
>
> Below is are my XF86Config-4 and kernel configuration script.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> # XF86Config-4
>
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Generic Monitor"
> HorizSync 30-95
> VertRefresh 50-180
> Modeline "1152x864x100" 137.65 1152 1176 1304 1528 864 866 885
>898 -HSync -VSync
XFree86 4.x does not normally need a modeline. Comment it out.
> Option "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Default Screen"
> Device "Generic Video Card"
> Monitor "Generic Monitor"
> DefaultDepth 24
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 1
> Modes "1152x864x100"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 4
> Modes "1152x864x100" <-----{the screen only has
>two dimensions
> replace with "1152x864}
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 8
> Modes "1152x864x100" <-----{the screen only has
>two dimensions
> replace with "1152x864}
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 15
> Modes "1152x864x100" <-----{the screen only has
>two dimensions
> replace with "1152x864}
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 16
> Modes "1152x864x100" <-----{the screen only has
>two dimensions
> replace with "1152x864}
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 24
> Modes "1152x864x100" <-----{the screen only has
>two dimensions
> replace with "1152x864}
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
If it still doesn't work, try "1024x768" just to see if it matters.
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From: "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: text app for serial terminal
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:02:21 +1300
You don't mention what kind of database you are using, so I'll assume you
are using mySQL, though it's generally the same for any database.
Most database systems let you use tools on the command line (and
therefore in a shell script). So you have two options
1) Make a shell script to access the database
2) Make program to access the databse through library calls
1 is easier, but 2 is better option for "Live Production" systems, I
guess.
Look in the manual for the database (You may need to go to their site to
get it) to find out how to do this. (The MySQL manual is 100+ pages)
HIH -- Cameron Kerr
PS. When crossposting, please set the Followup field
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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:09:22 -0800
What kernel version are you using?
Jerome DESMOULINS wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have buy a new hard drive (IBM 30 Go, 7200 Turn/min).
>
> I have install a Redhat 6.1 on this disk, but I have a conflict with my
> parallel port.
> Apparently, the hard drive use the addresses normally used by my parallel
> port.
>
> How can I resolve it?
> I have try to change the IRQ of my disk on the bios, and I also try to
> change the address of the // port in the bios, but without results.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jerome DESMOULINS
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2's KUDZU killed my mouse :(
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:35:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guy Parry wrote:
> I've given up on gpm for the moment. I have an
> etc/sysconfig/mouse and a /dev/mouse, but ithas nothing in it and I
> definately can't see a symlink to ttyS0 - if I need one. Think I
> should just remove kudzu and do a re-install, installing nothing other
> than system files - eg, XF86Config and so on?
XF86Config is only important for the mouse in X.
But you are looking for the console mouse , right?
/home/user>ll /dev/mouse
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Sep 28 15:56 /dev/mouse -> psaux
/home/user>cat /etc/sysconfig/mouse
FULLNAME="Microsoft - IntelliMouse (PS/2)"
MOUSETYPE="imps2"
XEMU3="no"
XMOUSETYPE="IMPS/2"
(If you have a serial mouse settings are somewhat different, but the idea is
similar)
Eric
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:51:13 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails in RH7 -- weird error
Hello,
as I read someone else metioned what you're missing...:-)
Seems to be a starnge problem with RH, I use SuSE and never had any
problems compiling a kernel after I had read the Changes file and
updated my system accordingly.
I never had to fidle around with makefiles for a fresh kernel compile,
but I remember reading that Linus Torvalds said something like:
"RH 7.0 is not useable as development system"
Now I know what he meant...
Michael Heiming
David Cecere wrote:
> Michael,
>
> If compiling my kernel was the worst thing I'd ever "mucked up" in my
> life I'd be in great shape. As it happens, the Changes file for the
> 2.2.16-22 kernel source says that gcc 2.7.2.3 will compile the kernel.
> In a perfect world that statement would be true, but it's not. Without
> kgcc and egcs, the compile fails, and without either symlinking the
> gcc dir to kgcc ir hacking the Makefile the compile fails. And so it
> goes.
>
> David
>
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:13:44 +0100, Michael Heiming
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >David Cecere wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> The 2.2.16-22 kernel appears to compile normally all the way up to the
> >> point where it attemps to create the compressed file (vmlinuz). The
> >> make program craps out as follows:
> >>
> >> make[1]: as86: Command not found
> >> make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] error 127
> >> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/boot'
> >> make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
> >>
> >> I've found reference to the as86 compiler in the
> >> /usr/src/arch/i386/boot/Makefile. It calls as86 as a cross compiler.
> >> It also lists ld86 on the line below. I can't find either file
> >> anywhere on my system.
> >>
> >> I currently have kgcc-1.1.2-40 installed and I have hacked my top
> >> Makefile to use kgcc as the cross-compiler.
> >>
> >> I have egcs-1.1.2-30, and cpp-2.96-69. All my packages verify.
> >>
> >> Anybody?
> >>
> >> David
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >sounds as you have mucked it up, there is a file
> >/usr/src/linux/Documentaton/Changes which comes with every kernel and
> >says which version of what you need to compile a kernel.
> >
> >Unless you are absolutly sure what you are doing, you shouldn't touch any
> >Makefiles
> >needed to build your kernel.
> >
> >Good luck
> >
> >Michael Heiming
> >
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From: "Shaun Troedson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake install hangs on IDE disk detection
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:23:46 +1030
Well this hasn't helped my problem but follow this from the mandrake support
page:
Error Scenario: Freeze-up after IDE detection
When: During Installation
Why: Some Hard disk drives advertise to the software that they are capable
of higher data rates than they actually can do.
Solution: When the splash screen comes up, press F1, then type "linux
ide0=noautotune ide1=noautotune ide2=noautotune ide3=noautotune" (without
the quotes and leaving out any ide channels that have no hard disks
attached. ) You will also need to add "ide0=noautotune ide1=noautotune..."
to the append line of each system identified in the bootloader (click on the
boot label and edit the system). Once you have a booting system you may
advance the drives to higher performance with the hdparm command.
"Dudly" <rakem31*spam*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> System:
> 200 MHz Pentium
> Primary IDE Drive: 6GB Win98 on Drive C: with a logical partition for
Drive
> D:
> Slave IDE Drive: 2 GB formatted for linuxext2 using Partition Magic prior
> to Mandrake install
> Also present in the system is an internal ZIP drive and an IDE CD-ROM
> 48 MB of RAM
>
> Boot from CD for the Mandrake install and get hung at the IDE disk
detection
> (3rd step of the install).
>
> Anyone had this problem or can someone throw me a bone where to go from
> here? I'm kind of stumped....
>
> -Dudly
>
>
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From: "Fabio Garufi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Asus A7V + Promise ATA100 + RH7
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:36:20 +0100
If you cannot even boot, boot with an installation disk, and, when in the
installation shell look into the /proc/pci file. You should see something
as:
Bus 0, device 17, function 0:
Unknown mass storage controller:Prom,ise Technology Unknown Device
Vendor id=105a. Device id=d30.
Medium devsel. IRQ10. Master capable. Latency=32
I/O at 0xa000 (a)
I/O at 0x9800 (b)
I/O at 0x9400 (c)
I/O at 0x9000 (d)
I/O at 0x8800
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x55000000...
Note the (a), (b), (c), (d) numbers and reboot.
At the boot prompt, type linux ide2=(a),(b)+2 ide3=(c),(d)+2 (if not linux,
vmlinuz or whatever your kernel is called)
This should tell the kernel where to look for the proper device.
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"Jan Kov��" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:9662rm$4a8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello.
> I have downloaded the Hendick's patches for ATA100. There were not msg
about
> how to use it there. So I have read the manual for patch and tried to use
it
> as written in manual. It has said:
> patch: **** strip count num is not a number
> I do not know if it is good or bad or what does it mean. I can see some
hde,
> hde1, hde4, hde5 ... hdf, hdf1 ..etc in /dev
>
> I have connected the new disk and after starting the linux I have tried to
> mount the hard drive. It said:
> mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/hde4 as a block device
> (maybe `insmod driver'?)
>
> What does it mean? What should I do?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jan Kovar
>
>
>
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Subject: How do I setup dial-on-demand for ISDN
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Feb 2001 11:23:49 +0200
I am running RedHat 7, Kernel 2.2.16-22. I have a FritzCard ISDN card
that is able to dial to the internet fine. How do I set it up so that
it will autmatically dial whenever I reference a web site?
Thanks,
David Suna
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerome DESMOULINS)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:31:51 GMT
Hello,
The 3BC can be used by UDMA controller.
[posted and mailed]
On 12 Feb 2001, you wrote in comp.os.linux.setup:
>
>
>Jerome DESMOULINS wrote:
>
>> I have install a Redhat 6.1 on this disk, but I have a conflict with my
>> parallel port. Apparently, the hard drive use the addresses normally
>> used by my parallel port.
>
>The hard drive doesn't use a port, the IDE controller uses
>it, and they
>are 1F0, and 170. The Parallel port can be 3BC, 378, or
>another of which
>the I/O address escapes me at the moment.
>
>The IDE controller will not use any other resources like
>interrupts that can
>conflict with any parallel port.
>
>You didn't say what led you to believe that there was a
>conflict, but I doubt
>it is the two devices you mention. It's more likely that you
>have violated some
>other architectural quirk like sharing int5 which was
>historically dedicated
>to LPT2 with another device like a serial port or sound
>card.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary
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Subject: Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerome DESMOULINS)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:32:12 GMT
On 13 Feb 2001, you wrote in comp.os.linux.setup:
I use a 2.2 Kernel
>What kernel version are you using?
>
>Jerome DESMOULINS wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have buy a new hard drive (IBM 30 Go, 7200 Turn/min).
>>
>> I have install a Redhat 6.1 on this disk, but I have a conflict with
>> my parallel port.
>> Apparently, the hard drive use the addresses normally used by my
>> parallel port.
>>
>> How can I resolve it?
>> I have try to change the IRQ of my disk on the bios, and I also try to
>> change the address of the // port in the bios, but without results.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Jerome DESMOULINS
>
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From: Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't delete file
Date: 13 Feb 2001 09:42:41 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to delete a file, but got this error :
bash-2.03# rm plusnode.gif
rm: cannot remove `plusnode.gif': Value too large for defined data type
bash-2.03#
Can someone tell me how to delete it ?
Best Regards,
Eric Ho
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't delete file
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:00:32 +0100
Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to delete a file, but got this error :
> bash-2.03# rm plusnode.gif
> rm: cannot remove `plusnode.gif': Value too large for defined data type
> bash-2.03#
Works just fine here:
oboe:/tmp% rm plusnode.gif
oboe:/tmp%
> Can someone tell me how to delete it ?
Why don't you give us some details of this "file"?
Obviously its name is not the only relevant thing about it! I'm sure
you've noticed that you can delete other files just fine, and I'm sure
you've also noticed that we can't see into your computer, so you
should deduce that we need to know what is special about this file in
order to help you, and that you need to tell us what is special,
because we can't.
so
ls -l plusnode.gif
lsattr plusnode.gif
df .
mount
Peter
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From: "Rich Somerfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: x windows screen size
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:47:37 -0000
Have you tried using "sax" ?
regards,
Rich
stuart hinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:969o33$3qo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I was just wondering what is the easiest way to configure the screen size
in
> x windows (Gnome desktop). I've been having some trouble with
xconfigurator
> thanks
> stuart
>
>
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From: "Michel DOMINIQUE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to log in
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:56:20 GMT
Hi !
Thanks for your response. The problem was not using unknown password since I
tried with several (with the right character case use !) which were present
in the passwd file.
However I solved the problem by booting on the boot and root disks of my
slackware distribution. Then I was able to log in with the root username
without password and I could see that all user password in the /etc/passwd
file were set to the char 'x'.
So I cleared the root password and all was fine.
I suspect the fact I used the user manager application in KDE to change one
password user (not the root's one); It seems hat the application then has
changed ALL the password with something incompatible with the crypt
function.
Any other ideas ?
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