Linux-Setup Digest #627, Volume #20              Tue, 13 Feb 01 19:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: Update: Install hangs computer (Eric P. McCoy)
  Re: different /dev's for tape? (H.Bruijn)
  Re: Mounting Windoze partitions from Linux problem. ("Duane Healing")
  Re: linux from scratch (DOS, modem & floppies) ("Duane Healing")
  Compiling kernel (rob)
  Re: different /dev's for tape? (Karl-Heinz Herrmann)
  Re: How do I install a simple dot matrix printer? (Omar)
  Re: different /dev's for tape? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: New to Linux, Slow Boot ("Peter T. Breuer")
  ISDN TA  problem ("Acom_tek")
  Re: Install hangs computer (Marc Ulrich)
  How can i convert my icq2000b database to be use on LICQ? ("Ian")
  Mandrake&rpm&trouble (lefu)
  removed /etc/rc.d ("Andrew Cox")
  Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (Zsolt Zsoldos)
  enhancing linux useably ("Coleman, William E E")

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Update: Install hangs computer
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 13 Feb 2001 16:25:14 -0500

"Rex Dieter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Do you have a conventional floppy?  If not, that could be it.
[...]

Just so that you know, I got six identical copies of this article.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: different /dev's for tape?
Date: 13 Feb 2001 21:35:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:03:08 -0700, Corey Wirun allegedly wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I've got a QIC tape drive which has on-board compression.  When I MAKEDEV'd
>the /dev directory for the device, it created st0 and nst0 (rewinding and
>non-rewinding) devices.  This works fine.
>
>But, my tape drive (a Tandberg TDC4100 or SLR3) has other modes, including
>compression, etc.  How do I get /dev entries for those?
>
>How does anyone create different /dev entries for different modes for a tape
>drive?  Do you have to create an stinit.def entry for the device?
>
>Thanks in Advance

Use the major and minor device numbers found in the file devices.txt in
the linux source code (../linux/Documentation/devices.txt) or at the
website http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/device-list/

There appear to even be special devices for QIC tapes, to enable
compression. Make the devices with 
        /sbin/mknod NAME c MAJOR MINOR 

For instance to create the deive associated with the QIC 117 tape drive
one uses the name qft0 for the first drive, and rewind on close, c,
since it is a character device, major 27 and minor 0
        /sbin/mknod qft0 c 27 0 
to make the device entry for the same device, Unit 0, rewind-on-close,
but now with compression, 
        /sbin/mknod zqft0 c 27 16 


-- 
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn                            mail:          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands                       website:   http://hermanbruijn.com

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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting Windoze partitions from Linux problem.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:41:24 -0800

Not having msdos fs support might be an issue, I'd make sure you have
that installed too along with vfat.

I'd also be suspicious of the partition warnings that fdisk gives you.
How were the partitions created?

Posting the results of an "fdisk -l" will still help so get those up when
you can.

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <CFai6.1282$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rich
Somerfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The listing is the same as yours.  with the first value being 3 and the
> second relating to the value of the device (hence /dev/hda7 -> 7).
> 
> I tried mounting as msdos type (no longfilenames I know!), but it said
> that was not supported by my kernel, could this be the problem?
> 
> I also did a fdisk /dev/hda1 and printed out the the partitions, (sorry
> not got the output available yet), it said that the partitions didnt lie
> on boundaries, is this a problem?
>

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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux from scratch (DOS, modem & floppies)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:49:08 -0800

I'd try the Debian floppy install myself. 6 floppies will get you up with
networking. The base system and everything else you could want can be
dl'd from there. You'll need rescue.bin (boot floppy), root.bin, and
driver-[1-4].bin. You can find them at
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "DTi4565459"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have looked at the Linux from Scratch virtual book, and find it a
> little confusing for this newbie.  Also, have trouble finding some of
> the rpm's that are required.  Is there another way?  For my own
> education, I would like to start with a minimal linux like CClinux. 
> Then add a terminal (like the old Win3.1 terminal) so I can dial to ISP.
>  Then lynx to an ftp site, like Debian.  And then start to build a
> system that would include X, KDE, a dial-up networking connection, and
> finally Netscape.   I know, your first thought is why doesn't the newbie
> get an easy install CDROM.
>  Well, I've done that on some desktops; but I want to do it now on a
>  laptop
> where the ext PCMCIA CDROM keeps crashing the kernel.  Thanks in advance
> for clues.
>            dave
> 
> http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/
> 
> (1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:05:43 +0200
From: rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling kernel

At present I am running Mandrake 7.0 (Air) 2.2.14-15mdk.
I recently downloaded the 2.4.1 source code (Linux-2.4.1.tar.gz) and
unzipped this
into /usr/src.

I then did a make config and worked through all of the steps.

I then did a cd /usr/src/linux and then tried to compile the whole thing
with:

make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install

I received the following error messages: -

gcc - Wall -Wstrict -prototypes -02 fomit-frame-pointer -0 scripts/mkdep
scripts/mkdep.c

scripts/mkdep.c:27 ctype.h:no such file or directory
            "                28 fcntl.h                "
            "                29 stdio.h                "
            "                30 stdlib.h               "
            "                31 string.h               "
            "                32 unistd.h              "
            "                34 sys/fcntl.h          "
            "                35 sys/mman.h       "
            "                36 sys/stat.h            "
            "                37 sys/types.h         "

Please explain what I did wrong and how to correct this problem.

Thank you

Rob









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From: Karl-Heinz Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: different /dev's for tape?
Date: 13 Feb 2001 23:10:57 +0100

"Corey Wirun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've got a QIC tape drive which has on-board compression.  When I MAKEDEV'd
> the /dev directory for the device, it created st0 and nst0 (rewinding and
> non-rewinding) devices.  This works fine.
> 
> But, my tape drive (a Tandberg TDC4100 or SLR3) has other modes, including
> compression, etc.  How do I get /dev entries for those?
> 
> How does anyone create different /dev entries for different modes for a tape
> drive?  Do you have to create an stinit.def entry for the device?
> 

If you access the tape via [n]st0 it may understand scsi command. Have
a look at 'mt'.
That tool allows you to set compression, format, blocksize,...

K.-H.


-- 
=============================
Karl-Heinz Herrmann
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=============================

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From: Omar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I install a simple dot matrix printer?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:16:05 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've Looked for a week for help on this so here it is.  I am running
> RedHat 6.1 and have connected a Star nx1000 printer.  It's a dual boot
> setup and the printer works fine in win98.  I added the parport alias
> into conf.modules, and did a modprobe parport_pc.  After that  I tried
> a cat from a terminal prompt and it came out on the printer complete
> with a form feed.  However from the Gnome printer tool when I say
> print an ascii test page, it says it did it but nothing on the
> printer.  I've set printtool to Epson 9 pin, and text print.  I
> thought this would be easy!  What am I missing?  Thanx.

Is lpd running?

What is the output from lpq?

Restart lpd (/etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd restart).

If that doesn't work, post the section of /etc/printcap for the Star
printer and I'll try and help.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: different /dev's for tape?
Date: 13 Feb 2001 22:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:03:08 -0700, Corey Wirun staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I've got a QIC tape drive which has on-board compression.  When I
>MAKEDEV'd the /dev directory for the device, it created st0 and nst0
>(rewinding and non-rewinding) devices.  This works fine.
>
>But, my tape drive (a Tandberg TDC4100 or SLR3) has other modes,
>including compression, etc.  How do I get /dev entries for those?
>
>How does anyone create different /dev entries for different modes for a
>tape drive?  Do you have to create an stinit.def entry for the device?

If /dev/st0 and /dev/nst0 do what they're supposed to do, then you do
not need any other devices at all.  Check the man page for the "mt"
command for the datcompression option, as well as many other things that
might be useful.  HTH,

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux, Slow Boot
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:22:08 +0100

Chris Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I made a mistake...  :(

> I changed the computer name in the host file (and then changed it back when
> my problem cropped up) and now the boot process takes forever... apparently
> hanging for a while at sendmail, httpd and inntp stuff...

> I changed it back to what it was previously and it still takes well over 5
> minutes to boot.  Can someone point me in the direction of fixing this
> problem?

DNS. /etc/hosts.


> Additionally, how would I go about changing it properly?  (I figure the

You changed the hostname properly. You just forgot to change the
hostname/IP bindings too. Locking up your IP number doesn't give your
host now.

Man grep.

> answer to the first question will probably answer the second, but just in
> case...)

Peter

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From: "Acom_tek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISDN TA  problem
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:05:21 -0000

I'm new to Linux and have just installed Corel Linux 2nd Edition but
although Linux has found every other piece of hardware my US Robotics TA is
no where to be seen. Does Corel Linux have a problem with ISDN or can
someone tell me what I need to do to set it up,

                          thanks in advance,

                                                   deputy



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From: Marc Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Install hangs computer
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:59:46 -0500

The problem is more basic than this. I downloaded the disk and read the
instructions. Apparently you have to get past the point where my
computer hangs before you can deal with this controller. Anyways, I've
removed the promise controller from the computer and have tried
installing while the harddrive is using the onboard controller. Still I
get the same problem. 

Is there a way to let RedHat.com know of this problem -- it may have
something to do with an incompatible motherboard or something. I
downloaded the OS from their FTP site so I don't have a product ID and
cannot get any support from them because of that.

Marc

roel wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Just go to promise.com download the bootdisk and of you go.
> The promise controller is not supported by rh 7.0. gues 7.1 with kernel
> 2.4 will be out soon, which does support promise 20265/20267.
> 
> Roel
> 
> Marc Ulrich wrote:
> >
> > I have a new computer that will not install linux RedHat 7.0. Here's the
> > deal:
> >
> > When the boot (from CDRom) reaches the spot: "PCI: probing PCI
> > hardware", the system freezes. Not even Crtl-Alt-Del to shutdown &
> > reboot will work. I tried using the expert mode because it said that
> > will bypass the PCI autoprobing. It does exactly the same thing.
> >
> > Here's what I think the problem is: The harddrive is using a Promise
> > Ultra100 harddrive controller (so that the HDD can use ATA100 instead of
> > ATA66 which is the max available via the motherboard). I would try just
> > attaching the harddrive to the motherboard controller, install linux &
> > then put it back on the Promise controller except that the PCI probing
> > is done everytime linux boots.
> >
> > Can anyone help me out?
> > Thanks,
> > Marc

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From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: How can i convert my icq2000b database to be use on LICQ?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:08:33 GMT

Hi, I just wonder if there is anyway i can convert my icq2000b database to
be use on LICQ.

I saw it on the LICQ homepage that they have the source code in PERL.
But i don't know how to compile perl program.
Is there somewhere i can just download it without compiling it?
or if you know how to compile in PERL. also please let me know how.

Thanks for reading this.



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From: lefu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake&rpm&trouble
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:15:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When I install rpm I got a mesaage then I don't have this modules (Mandrake 
7.2) what I must install?

libjscript.so.2
libkdecore.so.2
libkdeui.so.2
libkfile.so.2
libkfm.so.2
libkhtmlw.so.2
libkimgio.so.2
                                  
Lefu

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From: "Andrew Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: removed /etc/rc.d
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:20:22 -0600

I was careless using an experimental NT driver to access a Linux filesystem,
and it removed all the files from /etc/rc.d (on turbolinux)

I've since found a driver that seems to work better so I can write files,
and I'm pretty experienced with linux, so I know what goes there (scripts to
get the system booted into each runlevel.)  My question is should I make an
attempt to rebuild the /etc/rc.d, or would I be wasting my time?  I could
reinstall, but I would like to preserve things if possible.

Could I possibly find these files in a package somewhere?  What are some
opinions on this?



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From: Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:34:13 GMT

Karl Misselt wrote:
> 
[SNIP]
> me off of getting that package.  However, I was wondering if anyone
> knows what one loses by getting the free download package or odering
> the 'free' cd's from cheapbytes.com.  It appears as the compilers
> and libraries are included in the download version.  But what elements
> of the distro (ie. powerpack package) are missing? I'm leaning towards

Their web page says "The Download Edition is the equivalent to the first 
2 CDs of the PowerPack Deluxe". If this is true, then downloading or
ordering from cheapbytes seems a safe option. That's what I did for 7.1
and it worked fine with all compilers and server tools included (telnet,
ftp, nfs etc). What you get in extra in the deluxe powerpack is additional
contributed applications, source files, books in online format and a bunch
of commercial software, e.g. CodeForge (IDE). You can find the list of the
applications on their web site: 
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72/index.php3?cd=com&s=72pwp4

> c/c++/fortran compilers at the minimum.  My basic question with
> distros boils down to: Do all the free download versions contain
> compilers and working libraries and what would one gain by spending
> $70 on the powerpack 7.2 distro of mandrake?

What you gain are those listed commercial software packages and some books in 
electronic version (Linux Hardware Handbook, Practical Linux, Linux in 24 hours,
GIMP in 24 hours).

-- 
Zsolt Zsoldos, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.simbiosys.ca/

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From: "Coleman, William E E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: enhancing linux useably
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:34:10 -0000

One of the major advantages which Microsoft has in house with it's
software is the fact they own the only copy of the implementation and
few other comparable implementations exist. This is a reduction of
problem space issue, the fewer variants of a tool are in development the
more tools can be created as most production factors remain constant.
The fact there are different focuses on differing implementations of the
same tool in the un* world reduces the total number of tool which can be
successfully developed. net personnel management is for me an unknown
subject, I expect many people would agree. however with a single focal
point for development for individual tools which don't match other works
else where although we can make use of what should be the best resources
on applications and system tools which large corporate own the linux
community should make the best use of it's philosophy don't re write the
wheel, Joe public use the implementation which you can edit as you
please if you need it to do something which it can't already do. The
best plan is to make as many functions reside in libraries and write
majority of the executables very small anyone wishing to re use the code
exactly can link to the library and anyone wishing to use modified
behaviour can edit the source to produce. The fewer users of the power
of linux GPL and LGPL the fewer applications which function identically
except for Look and Feel. Also updates in the libraries which enhance
their function affect all uses.
the better the over all knowledge on working the linux machine the
better the ability to make it work for the user.

I do like and enjoy the Linux Free Software movement which has provided
me with many facilities you have to pay $$$$'s for in Micro$oft world I
am posting this to attempt to show encouragement for the linux movement
whilst also making my idealistic contributions.

The FSF movement is the greatest software idea to hit the industry. It's
just necessary to make sure that all the people how just download and go
still remember that someone moved a finger or two to make it all
possible and they usually need some compensation for their efforts. It
is best to ether supply ideas, source code, or finance but without any
many projects will fall by the way side.

Closed software development, Closed working, closed thinking, closed
markets, closed business.

OR

Open software development, Open working environment, open audience,
expanding markets, business.

corporate it's up to you!


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