Linux-Setup Digest #636, Volume #20              Thu, 15 Feb 01 05:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: help with kernel make ... newer documentation ??? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: DSL modem and linux? (Alastair Preston)
  Re: Sympatico DSL modem and Best LInux 2000 (Jay & Michelle)
  Re: Searching small linux-distribution on diskettes (images) (Matt Haley)
  What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot in RedHat 7.0? (jtnews)
  Re: newbie:forgot the root password ("Philo")
  Re: What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot in RedHat 7.0? (Pete Zaitcev)
  Re: RH 7 hangs on boot (Eric)
  PS/2 mouse config under Debian 2.2 ("James Smagala")
  Re: Mandrake 7.2's KUDZU killed my mouse :( (Eric)
  Re: SCSI... how? ("Cameron Kerr")
  Terminal Problem ("Allan Van Zyl")
  Re: Lilo problems with Suse 7.0 ("Eric")
  Re: Multiboot Win2k and linux ("Eric")
  how to run cgi program under apache! ("low")
  Re: Can LILO boot windows MBR on /dev/hdb? ("Duane Healing")
  Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (Terry Porter)
  Making a 486 into a dumb Xterminal (B'ichela)
  Keyboard mapping and sterling symbol... (Jem)
  Re: What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot in RedHat 7.0? (Gerhard 
Fuernkranz)
  Re: PS/2 mouse config under Debian 2.2 ("Eric")

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with kernel make ... newer documentation ???
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:16:06 GMT

colossal crab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have compiled a new kernel on redhat 7 and received the same results I
> have in the past ... a kernel that wont boot.
> I compiled the 2.4.0 kernel source procured from kernel.org on a BP6 mobo
> (dual processor) 96 megs ram.

Using what compiler? You know that RHs default compiler doesn't work for
kernel compiles, right? That's why they supply a separate one, called
kgcc?

> Would someone be so kind as to point out mistakes or point me in the
> direction of some good documentation?

The documentation is just fine. Read the kernel README.

Peter

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From: Alastair Preston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DSL modem and linux?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:28:13 -0700

Check with your local service provider to see which modems fit *their*
requirements, before you buy. They may insist you stick to a short list
of specific models. Our local telephone company only allows two models.

Al Preston

Michael Johnston wrote:
> 
> Can someone give me some advice on what kind of DSL modem to buy?  What is a
> good modem to use with Linux?  Does using an external modem limit the speed
> of the network coming in to the speed of the serial port it is plugged into?
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike Johnston

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From: Jay & Michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sympatico DSL modem and Best LInux 2000
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:31:59 GMT

Goto www.roaringpenguin.com and d/l rpppoe, I believe there at version 8.



"C.Lohnes" wrote:

> I am trying to get my sympatico dsl to work with my linux(Best Linux 2000)
> can ne1 help me out please, feel free to email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  thanks


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Haley)
Subject: Re: Searching small linux-distribution on diskettes (images)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:32:56 -0000

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:44:53 +0100,
 Atmosfear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am searching for a small linux distribution which comes on diskettes (or
>diskette-images ;-), to install on a i386 Notebook with 8MB RAM and 128MB
>HDD. It should come with a nice shell and developing tools like vi (better
>vim), gcc and perl.
>I should be installable to disk (i.e. don't run from diskette into RAM-disk
>ans should run on native ext2fs not UMSDOS).
>
>Someone has an idea where to get such a distribution?
>(to download...)

I'd suggest Slackware.


-- 
Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mandrake 7.2 / RedHat 6.1 / Windows 98 SE / FreeBSD 4.2 / Windows NT 4

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:38:01 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot in RedHat 7.0?

What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot
in RedHat 7.0?

Currently I'm doing it by
putting insmod aic7xxx in
/etc/rc.modules:

   #!/bin/sh
   /sbin/insmod aic7xxx

But according to the comment in
/etc/rc.sysinit:

   # Load modules (for backward compatibility with VARs)
   if [ -f /etc/rc.modules ]; then
        /etc/rc.modules
   fi

it seems that this method is deprecated.

What's the right way to do it?

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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie:forgot the root password
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:14:28 -0600

just log on as single user
viz:
linux single
or linux 1


then reassign your password
with the passwd command

--

Philo

website: www.plazaearth.com/philo



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot in RedHat 7.0?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:11:03 GMT

How about an alias in /etc/modules.conf?
Just grep for request_module in SCSI code,
that should give you an idea.

-- Pete

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:38:01 -0500, jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot
> in RedHat 7.0?
> 
> Currently I'm doing it by
> putting insmod aic7xxx in
> /etc/rc.modules:
> 
>    #!/bin/sh
>    /sbin/insmod aic7xxx
> 
> But according to the comment in
> /etc/rc.sysinit:
> 
>    # Load modules (for backward compatibility with VARs)
>    if [ -f /etc/rc.modules ]; then
>         /etc/rc.modules
>    fi
> 
> it seems that this method is deprecated.
> 
> What's the right way to do it?

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: RH 7 hangs on boot
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:28:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Geoff Prosser wrote:

> thanks for your help guys!!
>
> i tried with the boot floppy and this is what i got
> boot: linux
> Loading linux....................
> Uncompressing Linux...
>
> crc error
> --System halted
>
> so i tried typing linux root=/dev/hda3 at the regular LILO prompt not from
> the boot floppy
> and i got this:
> Loading linux....................
> No Setup signature found...
>
> i tried this a couple more times and i got different error messages:
>
> Loading linux.....................
> Uncompressing Linux...
> invalid compressed format (err=2) //the other time i tried i got (err=1)
> --system halted
>
> here is some more hard disk info:
>
> here is my partition layout on my 12.9GB HD
> | 5.8 GB win C drive | 2GB linux native | 128MB linux swap | 4.4GB win D
> drive |
>
> this is what is reported by linux fdisk
>
> device      boot  start       end       id      system
> /tmp/hda1   *     1           739       b       win95 fat32
> /tmp/hda2        1011      1575      c       win95 fat32 (LBA)
> /tmp/hda3        740         994       83     linux
> /tmp/hda4        995         1010     82     linux swap
>
> i really want to get linux going so any help will be greatly appreciated!!

Different error messages almost always imply the same: bad hardware.
Run memtest86 (or something like this) to check your RAM . Search
freshmeat.net for it.

Eric


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From: "James Smagala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PS/2 mouse config under Debian 2.2
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:27:12 -0700

Hey

I am trying to get a PS/2 mouse to work under X on a Debian 2.2 system.  The
config program for the X server has an option to support PS/2 mouses.  I do
have some movement of the mouse, though it is sporadic and only left/right.

The only other obvious variable is what device I specify as the mouse input.
Currently its just /dev/mouse.  What other devices might be a mouse
interface?  Any other suggestions as to ways to get it working?

Thanks - J



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2's KUDZU killed my mouse :(
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:35:38 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Guy Parry wrote:

>      Well, it didn't.  Making symlionks in /dev, such as
>
>      mouse  -> psaux or mouse -> ttyS0 doesn't do a THING...
>

Well I am really not surprised.
You want to try a mouse in X, you change /etc/XF86Config
I tried to help you get gpm running again.
Have you made the link to ttyS0 and then tried to start gpm?

You wrote you gave up on gpm. You cannot. None of these things will have any
effect,
if gpm is not running.

Look at `/usr/sbin/gpm -h` And try to run it with the -V  and -T switch

Eric


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From: "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI... how?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:38:49 +1300

In article <3a8b44e3$0$35007$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Spawn"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who helped me with the slow boot problems.  I got it
> all straightened out and that part is fine...  now my next headache...
> 
> I have two machines at home, both with Zip drives.  One runs off the
> parallel port and one runs off of a SCSI card.  I got the parallel port
> one working with no problems, but for the life of me I can't get the one
> on the SCSI card to work.

Are you running a SCSI only, or IDE with SCSI addon?

If so, are you loading the SCSI controller as a module? (You should if
not essential for booting)

Have you loaded the module (what kind of controller is it? What module
are you using?)

After you attempt to load the module, what output do you get, if any?
(None is good). Use modprobe instead of insmod. Then look at the output
of the dmesg command, and see (at the end) if any controllers have been
loaded.

Then I guess you would install the ppa module.

Then tell us how you went.

> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Chris

HIH -- Cameron Kerr

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From: "Allan Van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Terminal Problem
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:51:36 +0200

After Adding append="mem=256M" to my lilo.conf
I am getting errors if I run

Joe
Error: Sorry, your terminal can't do absolute cursor positioning.

Pine
Error: Your terminal, of type "dumb", is lacking functions needed to run
pine.

Allan.



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo problems with Suse 7.0
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:49:02 +0100


> Don't know the size of your harddisk. SuSE is not able to boot from beyond
> the 1024th cylinder. Instaling a newer lilo helps. Have a look at this
> page:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/lilo/
>

SuSE is very well able to boot from beyond cyl. 1024.
(As well as any other linux distro)
You BIOS on the other hand is not.
Your BIOS can boot from there if it supports extended int13 calls (It
probably does) Use a new LILO to make use of these calls.

Eric



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Multiboot Win2k and linux
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:52:52 +0100

>You haven't mentioned which kernel version you're on, but lx-2.2.17 or
newer >supports WIN2K (NTFS).
>So, you should upgrade or recompile your kernel and install LILO in a
standard

What do you mean by "supports"?
(And a kernel never supports a FS, unless you compile it in, and you could
just as well compile it in 2.2.16)

Eric



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From: "low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,de.comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: how to run cgi program under apache!
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:20:15 +0800

Hi,

Can anyone give me a idea how to configure apache server to run cgi program
under linux?

I had install web apache server in my linux server and others pc able to
login to my web server and view html page.I try to run a web page with cgi
program but it failed with internal server error. my cgi program (test.sh)
store inside cgi-bin directory. I can run the cgi program under cgi-bin
directory by typing "../test.sh". But when i use browser the run the
program, it return internal server error. i check the error log file found
following two lines:

Exec format error: exec of /home/httpd/cgi-bin/test.sh failed
[client 192.0.0.123] Premature end of script headers:
/home/httpd/cgi-bin/test.sh

Can anyone know how to solve it?

Thanks
Low









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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can LILO boot windows MBR on /dev/hdb?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:38:44 -0800

Wouldn't surprise me. RH always does seem compelled to do things their
own way (not usually the right way IMO). You could always download the
lilo source, compile, and install it yourself.

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Martin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Duane Healing wrote:
> 
>> Lilo's boot screen is determined by the file written to the boot sector
>> pointed to in /etc/lilo.conf under the  "install=" line. Usually this
>> reads simply "install=boot.b", but I've seen other configurations as
>> well. Look in that file and see what it's pointing too, then look in
>> /boot and see if a standard boot.b is there. Change the lilo.conf to
>> point to it, rerun lilo and you should be set.
> 
> Unforunately, my lilo.conf file already points to /boot/boot.b with the
> "install=" line. Looks like maybe Red Hat might have come up with a
> custom boot loader??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 15 Feb 2001 08:45:42 GMT

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:28:10 GMT, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:45:38 GMT, Zsolt Zsoldos
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I was an enthusiastic linux user for the past 5 years, but now Mandrake 7.2
>>got me really frustrated, so that I have to tell you about it...
>>
>>First a bit of historical background about me and Linux:
>>I started using Linux in 1996 with Slackware (prior to that I was a Unix
>
>This is what some of us have been complaining about for weeks with
>respect to Mandrake 7.2.
really ?

>The install process has a mind of it's own and subsequent installs on
>fresh hard disks produce different results.
I reinstalled a few times for fun and had no such 'alleged' behaviour.
Neverless we have come to expect nothing but FUD from this Wintroll.

>
>You are fortunate in that you have the experience to know how to
>repair the install.
Mandrake 7.2 is childs play to install, Flathead has no clue as usual.

>
>I am not and I doubt a newbie would spend that much time trying to
>make it work properly.
A linux newbie would spend the time, thats the difference Flathinker.

>FWIW I had the Official Deluxe/Complete boxed version of Mandrake 7.2.
>Flatfish
>Why do they call it a flatfish?
Because it got stomped on by a 4 ton Penguin ?

>Remove the ++++ to reply.

Terry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Making a 486 into a dumb Xterminal
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 02:02:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        I have a 486dx2/66mhz machine here that only has 8mb of ram.
It works GREAT under x but I want to shave off some baggage. Right now
its a NFS/NIS client connected to a 486dx2/66 mhz 20mb SERVER! Now
since the server has the horsepower (ram) to actually run the X11
applications I want the client only to act as the screen. This client
will NOT be configured to do anything else!
        I did some expirements on my own that shows it works (kinda)
on the big box modifying the Xservers file to include the remote
machines name and then firing up xdm on the server and just typing X
on the little machine while logged into root works ok but... when I
try to put that in /etc/rc.d/rc.4 results in no XDM screen although
firing up by hand does! I don't want to fire it up as root! I want it
to be very simple. Like my VT102 terminal is for ASCII ie: a dumb box!
        Barring that... How do I get that machines XDM program to use
the files/memory of the bigger machine? I want to keep NETSCAPE out of
the little boxes ram. In other words... when a user logs in then put
the user in their window manager running on the BIG box while showing
the display on the little box.
        I am not expirenced at Xfree86 enough to figure this out on my
own. The man pages might as well be in Arabic! as they don't explain
what I need to do.
        OTOH, since I can get XDM to treat the little box as a
Xterminal if I start /usr/X11/bin/X from root and it works. how do I
get this brat to fire up from init! INIT starts /usr/X11/bin/X just
fine only no XDM login screen!



-- 

                        B'ichela


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From: Jem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Keyboard mapping and sterling symbol...
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:36:04 -0000

Argh! Major hair loss time ;-)

I am trying desperately hard to link up a UK keyboard to my Embedix 
based system. Embedix defaults to a US keyboard (not surprising) and 
doesn't seem to provide any tools (e.g. loadkeys) for configuring as a 
UK keyboard.

Me being a smart-arse took the consoleutils rpm from RedHat 6.2, 
stripped out the documentation and merged the rest into my Embedix 
system and then typed "loadkeys uk"... Yippeee! It all seems to work... 
all of it that is, except the "�" (uk sterling symbol) key. It produces 
nothing. Not a thing.

Why? How do I fix it? what's the matter? I've copied all the files that 
I use on my full RedHat 6.2 system, double checked loads of settings and 
yet nothing, no quid symbol. 

Anyone any hints?

Jeremy

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From: Gerhard Fuernkranz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot in RedHat 7.0?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:42:52 +0100

jtnews wrote:
> 
> What's the proper way to insmod aic7xxx on boot
> in RedHat 7.0?

There are of course many ways to do that ...

Personally I'd add "alias scsi_hostadapterX aic7xxx" to
/etc/conf.modules (where "X" is just a number {1,2,...} which
counts multiple scsi_hostadapter entries in the file) and then
I'd put the driver on my initrd (see command mkinitrd(8)) and
run lilo again.
I don't know if the aic7xxx driver drives your root-disk,
but if it does, then the above method is the only way to do it.

Gerhard

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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse config under Debian 2.2
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:42:56 +0100

> I am trying to get a PS/2 mouse to work under X on a Debian 2.2 system.
The
> config program for the X server has an option to support PS/2 mouses.  I
do
> have some movement of the mouse, though it is sporadic and only
left/right.
>
> The only other obvious variable is what device I specify as the mouse
input.
> Currently its just /dev/mouse.  What other devices might be a mouse
> interface?  Any other suggestions as to ways to get it working?
>

I suppose you have an intelli-mouse?
In /etc/XF86Config change the protocol from PS/2 to IMPS/2

Eric



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