Linux-Setup Digest #707, Volume #20 Sun, 25 Feb 01 21:13:18 EST
Contents:
Re: About how to configure an ISA PNP network card - OK now ("Juan Riera")
Re: Linux partitioning question (H.Bruijn)
Distro's ("Warnick")
Dual Boot wiped out by Win98 ("Randy Park")
Re: rmmod (Paul Kimoto)
Re: gqview: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux partitioning question (Chris Morgan)
Re: Severe X problem ("Xavier")
Re: Distro's (Rod Smith)
FAILED error messages (PNEWS)
isp setup for linux rh 7 ("Andrew Diaczyk")
Re: help: ppp dialin problems (David. E. Goble)
Re: Linux partitioning question (Dances With Crows)
Re: Dual Boot wiped out by Win98 (Jianxin Wang)
What is a good PCI video card for redhat 7 ("Andrew Diaczyk")
Printer support for rh7 ("Andrew Diaczyk")
Re: Linux partitioning question (John Thompson)
Re: Printer support for rh7 (H.Bruijn)
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From: "Juan Riera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: About how to configure an ISA PNP network card - OK now
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:01:24 +0100
Thanks.
I took the io port and irq from Windows, reinstalled Linux and set card
using modprobe with those io and irq settings. Everything works now, no need
to tweak pnp config.
Regards,
Juan
"Stanislaw Flatto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en el mensaje
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Juan Riera wrote:
>
> > So I guess I need some more info about how to configure an ISA PNP card
on
> > Linux, apart the how-to.
> > Any link or advice?
>
> Hi Juan.
> Been in the same situation.
> After much swearing and rebooting and reading, went to Windows and looked
at
> what the card uses regarding io and irq.
> I am using Slackware so I edited /etc/rc.d/rc.modules adding a line which
> pointed to using the ne.o with those parameters.
> No more problems.
>
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Juan
>
> Have fun.
>
> Stanislaw.
> Slack user from Ulladulla.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: 26 Feb 2001 00:10:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:56:59 GMT, Doug Lutterloh allegedly wrote:
>I have never agreed with the suggested partitioning scheme in most
>install docs for Linux, at least not for the home user. I usually set up
>with 3 partitions on my machine. One for windoze because I dual
>boot, one for Linux swap, and one for Linux. Why confuse the issue?!!?
>Why do I want to guess how much I will need for /home and /usr when
>I can just lump them together in one big partition and use all my
>space as efficiently as possible.
>You might hear some nonsense about the system running faster with
>the ten-gillion partition setup because it checks over the file system at
>bootup and a few other reasons. My experience has been that having
>one big partition doesn't hurt anything. I've also heard that multiple
>partitions make updating easier. I don't know about that for sure. Usually
>when I update I format the whole drive and start over anyway, or get a new
>machine, or whatever. Even so, I'm guessing Linux is smart enough to
>do a proper update when you don't use the traditional partition setup.
>Well, that's my 2 cents. If I weren't dual booting with windoze (and I'm
>starting
>to wonder why I even bother) my machine would only have 2 partitions.
>One for Linux swap and one for Linux.
I agree that more partitions make things slightly more difficult. For me
the reason to have a separate /home is that for a beginning user there
may be times when you made such a mess that you want to do a fresh
install, or times when you would like to try a new or different
distribution. At that point in time a separate partition will allow you
to keep all personal files, which are on the /home partition and even
some usefull system files (fi the /etc/ directory) which are copied to
that partition, while you format the root / partition. I find it rather
tedious to restore my personal files (300 MB) from the back-ups, never
mind losing all my mp3's.
A
The benefit of more partitions is IMHO only relevant for systems in a
more professional setting, not really in a home situation.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
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Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Warnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Distro's
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:58:22 -0700
Hello, failry new to Linux with some Mandrake experiance. I just bought
Corel Linux have attempted to install it many times with no luck. I am about
ready to give up on it (Corel tech support is of NO help) and am wondering
of the other Distro's out there.
I like what I have read of SuSe, and Redhat. But then I also liked what I
read of Corel Linux. Just wondering of peoples various thoughts on the
various distro's. I'll be using it at home on a partitioned 12 gig hard
drive.
Any opinions?
Warnick
P.S.- If any out there have had experiance with Corel and have advice on the
installation of it feel free to advise. It seemed that it would be an easy,
straight forward install but has been nothing but a pain, and always
incomplete in stall no matter what install options I choose.
Thanks.
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From: "Randy Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual Boot wiped out by Win98
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:21:54 -0800
I'm new to Linux, so please be patient.
A month ago I install Mandrake Linux 7.1 on my PC that
also had Win-98SE. The system would load grub and then
boot to either Linux or Win98 depending upon what I
chose. This worked fine until I was forced to reinstall
Win98 due to Win98 problems. (I chose Mandrake because
it looked most likely to support my Sanyo CD drive.)
The system no longer loads grub, and boots directly to
Win98. Thanks Microsoft :-( I can boot to Linux only
if I insert my lilo floppy before booting. I tried
using the drakeboot (or is that bootdrake?) utility
but it fails with a message something like 'cylinder
is too large'.
My goal is to eventually elminate Win98. Could someone
help advise me on how to restore my dual boot capability.
Thanks in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: rmmod
Date: 25 Feb 2001 19:23:11 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
ksandre wrote:
> On 22 Feb 2001, Paul Kimoto wrote:
>> Roughly, in 2.2.* kmod replaced kerneld, but did not include the
>> auto-unload functionality.
> In the "/usr/src/linux-2*/Doc*/kmod.txt" it says to issue the following:
>
> echo "/sbin/modprobe" > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe
>
> in the appropriate "rc" file prior to running the "rc.modules" file.
>
> Is this a myth?
As I recall, this tells kmod where to find the program that loads
modules (since it's conceivable that it could be installed elsewhere).
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gqview: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:35:20 -0800
Michael Heiming wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have Debian Potato installed and I get this error message when I try to run
> > gqview. I try to run it from bash. Does it require X11?
>
> IMHO, yes.
>
> > How do I determine why
> > it cannot open the display and how to fix it?
>
> startx
>
> Michael Heiming
For the moment, I can't run X11. Besides, X11 limits to 256 colors because
I cannot configure the linear and membase options. Is there an image viewer
that will run without X11?
Thank you.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
From: Chris Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:30:54 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn) writes:
> The benefit of more partitions is IMHO only relevant for systems in a
> more professional setting, not really in a home situation.
It's true there is tradeoff and the home user may want something
simple above all, but I find I need a minimum of 4 partitions.
/home is its own partition because it remains stable over many many OS
upgraded.
I use a swap partition because that is more efficient than swapfiles.
Then in the simplest case I will still want two / partitions. The one
that I currently rely on, and the one where I will install the next OS
(or if I just installed, the new one plus the old one as a safety net
in case the new install hits problems). Sometimes I have three /
partitions if I'm doing a lot of experimenting. I feel much freer to
try stuff out in an install if I know for a fact that the old system
is just a reboot away. Of course this means keeping either a bit of
wasted disk space at all times, and/or keeping / down to a reasonable
size. These days I put big stuff that's not terribly vital (MP3s from
my CDs, games I buy, raw scans from my scanners) on separate
partitions too. In an emergency I have spare disk space just a few
simple commands away.
Cheers,
Chris
--
Chris Morgan <cm at mihalis.net> http://www.mihalis.net
Temp sig. - Enquire within
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From: "Xavier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Severe X problem
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:41:28 -0800
well, it's hard to determine your problem, because error no.
111 could mean so many things. Usually, the real error
is displayed before that error is.
You need to give us more info about the X server output.
You can log the output by redirecting stdout and stderr to a
log file like so:
startx > startx.out 2>&1 (bash)
startx >& startx.out (csh)
Then email or post the contents of startx.out.
-- X
"H.A.J. van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is worked fine. When I run Xconfigurator it ends OK, but when I run
> startx or xinit it says errno 111; fails to initialize.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Distro's
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:40:29 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <Ffhm6.2992$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Warnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I like what I have read of SuSe, and Redhat. But then I also liked what I
> read of Corel Linux. Just wondering of peoples various thoughts on the
> various distro's. I'll be using it at home on a partitioned 12 gig hard
> drive.
For my thoughts on several distributions, check my Web page:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
> P.S.- If any out there have had experiance with Corel and have advice on the
> installation of it feel free to advise. It seemed that it would be an easy,
> straight forward install but has been nothing but a pain, and always
> incomplete in stall no matter what install options I choose.
Without knowing PRECISELY what isn't working, it'll be hard for anybody
to offer you advice. (Personally, I don't use Corel much, so I probably
couldn't help even if I knew precisely what symptoms you were
experiencing.) Sometimes you'll just run into problems with a particular
distribution, say because it's got some feature that's incompatible with
some of your hardware or because it uses some programs or features that
don't get along well with the way you like to use the computer. In such
cases, it's often easiest to simply move on to another distribution.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: PNEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FAILED error messages
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:29:26 -0500
Beginning several days ago I started to get two "FAILED" error messages on
boot. Everything appears to be working right, but I'm not sure what this
failure means or how to fix it --- short of reinstalling Linux.
Beginning on February 19th, I started getting:
Feb 19 Localhost Remote: Fatal: Extra argument start
Feb 19 Localhost RC: Starting Remote FAILED
Feb 19 Localhost RC: Starting Service FAILED
Any ideas how to address this and what it means?
I'm using Redhat 6.2.
I have NOT done any upgrades or revisions or modifications or rebuilding.
What it was, was also my question. I have no idea what "remote" is used
for and what it means in the boot up sequence, and I probably don't need
it. It is a glitch, I'm sure. I have an extra character somewhere which
occurred perhaps on a power down condition or power hit, because it came
out of the blue and does not affect using the system.
I can't find anything in my RC files to indicate a problem. The logs only
show when the errors started to happen. I don't know why this error
started when it did -------- or what REMOTE means, and everything appears
to work......... Sill, I would like to fix it.
Personal reply also welcome with answer posted here in case I miss
any replies. Thanks.
Hank
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From: "Andrew Diaczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: isp setup for linux rh 7
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:35:03 GMT
I have a cable modem setup through roadrunner how do I set it up.
In windows I just goto where you setup your nic under tcp/ip and check the
button for obtain an ip address automaticaly. How can I do this for red hat
7 thanks mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: goble@gtech (David. E. Goble)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: Re: help: ppp dialin problems
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:25:02 GMT
Reply-To: goble@gtech
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:37:37 +0000 (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David
Efflandt) wrote:
>
############ hosts #########
127.0.0.1 gtech localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.0.25 rgtech
>
>Where is the name of the dialin client? You need names for both ends of
>the connection, but the server can use its LAN IP with pppd proxyarp
>option for its local IP.
>
Hi David;
Thanks for your help and prompt reply.
Ok, I have changed the hosts to the above.
>
############ options.srv #######
auth
>
>+pap asks the peer (other machine) to authenticate itself and Windows
>doesn't do that. The auth and login options handle the pap authentication
>for the user.
>
Ok, I have removed -chap and +pap.
>
login
asyncmap 0
192.168.0.1:192.168.0.25
debug
modem
crtscts
proxyarp
############### pap-secrets ############
user1 * "" *
user2 * "" *
>
>pap-secrets needs a 4th field (allowed IP) for dialin (can be *).
>
Ok, add an extra *. I got the mac to try connecting again, no luck. It
still says ;
Could not determine local IP address
I would really like to get this working :> so if anyone can shed some
light on any solutions please help, thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: 26 Feb 2001 01:24:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Feb 2001 00:10:02 GMT, H.Bruijn staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:56:59 GMT, Doug Lutterloh allegedly wrote:
>>I have never agreed with the suggested partitioning scheme in most
[snip]
>>I can just lump them together in one big partition and use all my
>>space as efficiently as possible.
>>You might hear some nonsense about the system running faster with
>>the ten-gillion partition setup because it checks over the file system at
>>bootup and a few other reasons. My experience has been that having
>>one big partition doesn't hurt anything.
Never had a sudden power failure that caused one of your filesystems to
get completely scribbled? (NOTE: The first time I typed this sentence,
about an hour ago, the power went out 15 seconds later and stayed out
for 45 minutes. No data loss; I was lucky.) The main benefit to having
multiple partitions here is that filesystem damage will most likely
affect only one. Let's say you have /usr, /, and /home. If your /usr
is mangled, your data and basic utilities are still there. If /home is
mangled, you still have a working system you can use to restore your
data from backups. If / is mangled, at least you don't have to spend
time recovering your apps and data, just the stuff in /bin /etc /dev
/sbin /var.
Now if you just have /, and it gets toasted, everything's gone. Eggs.
Basket. You know.
>distribution. At that point in time a separate partition will allow you
>to keep all personal files, which are on the /home partition and even
>some usefull system files (fi the /etc/ directory) which are copied to
>that partition, while you format the root / partition. I find it rather
>tedious to restore my personal files (300 MB) from the back-ups, never
>mind losing all my mp3's.
>
>The benefit of more partitions is IMHO only relevant for systems in a
>more professional setting, not really in a home situation.
One partition is more flexible, but less safe. One partition also
limits you in some ways--my system used to run two distros, and each
shared /home and /usr/local, cutting down drastically on disk space
requirements. I would say that if you want maximum flex, the best way
to go is this: One 20M ext2 /boot, one 128M swap, one (large) ReiserFS
/ , regular backups. (You don't want one huge ReiserFS / as you'd have
to mount it with --notail or the bootloader would get confused. Having
tails is one of ReiserFS's advantages...)
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Jianxin Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Boot wiped out by Win98
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:20:58 -0500
Randy Park wrote:
> I have mandrake 7.0 on my machine and it has a 'KLILO' program under
> 'start->system/utility?' that can be used to restore you MBR. You can
> try that proram under KDE if mandrake 7.1 has the same program.
jw
> I'm new to Linux, so please be patient.
>
> A month ago I install Mandrake Linux 7.1 on my PC that
> also had Win-98SE. The system would load grub and then
> boot to either Linux or Win98 depending upon what I
> chose. This worked fine until I was forced to reinstall
> Win98 due to Win98 problems. (I chose Mandrake because
> it looked most likely to support my Sanyo CD drive.)
>
> The system no longer loads grub, and boots directly to
> Win98. Thanks Microsoft :-( I can boot to Linux only
> if I insert my lilo floppy before booting. I tried
> using the drakeboot (or is that bootdrake?) utility
> but it fails with a message something like 'cylinder
> is too large'.
>
> My goal is to eventually elminate Win98. Could someone
> help advise me on how to restore my dual boot capability.
> Thanks in advance.
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From: "Andrew Diaczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is a good PCI video card for redhat 7
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:30:36 GMT
I tried an Expert color (s3 trio virge chipset) it was not listed in the hcl
for linux. It didnt work and I think the card had problems to begin with.
I just want a PCI video for linux that is known to work and is not too
expensive. Suggestions would be apreciated. Thanks Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Andrew Diaczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printer support for rh7
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:31:47 GMT
I have a okidata microline 320 will that work with linux.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:15:25 -0600
Doug Lutterloh wrote:
> I have never agreed with the suggested partitioning scheme in most
> install docs for Linux, at least not for the home user. I usually set up
> with 3 partitions on my machine. One for windoze because I dual
> boot, one for Linux swap, and one for Linux. Why confuse the issue?!!?
> Why do I want to guess how much I will need for /home and /usr when
> I can just lump them together in one big partition and use all my
> space as efficiently as possible.
> You might hear some nonsense about the system running faster with
> the ten-gillion partition setup because it checks over the file system at
> bootup and a few other reasons. My experience has been that having
> one big partition doesn't hurt anything. I've also heard that multiple
> partitions make updating easier. I don't know about that for sure. Usually
> when I update I format the whole drive and start over anyway, or get a new
> machine, or whatever. Even so, I'm guessing Linux is smart enough to
> do a proper update when you don't use the traditional partition setup.
Having /home on a separate partition is handy when you screw
something up in the system and want to restore from a backup
without blowing away any of your user's home directories. If
you're the only person who uses the machine I suppose it isn't
such a big deal, but when several people have to use it and
expect to find things the way they left them they don't
appreciate finding that all their work since the last backup got
blown away because you were screwing around trying to update
glibc or something. If you spool mail for users you may also
want /var on a separate partition for the same reason (Huh?! How
come I don't have any email? I know I emailed myself that Really
Important Document so I could keep working on it here! If it's
that $%#$@-ing [insert name here] farting around with "improving"
things again I'll tear his/her [strike out pronoun that does not
apply] head off and stuff it in the floppy drive...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Printer support for rh7
Date: 26 Feb 2001 02:01:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:31:47 GMT, Andrew Diaczyk allegedly wrote:
>I have a okidata microline 320 will that work with linux.
>From the documentation I infer that it is an old style 9 pin dot matrix
printer. I would assume that you can treat it either as one of the
older okidata printers (okidata 182 or 192 are apperently supported. The
linux printing howto (use any search engine to find one near you)
suggest for such printers to try the epson drivers, as most printers
were compatible with them. Simply generic 9 dot matrix printer.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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