Linux-Setup Digest #712, Volume #20 Mon, 26 Feb 01 17:13:09 EST
Contents:
Info on getting Qwest DSL working ("Ben")
Re: red-carpet & Debian ("ne...")
Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2? (Ray Abbitt)
Re: gnome screensaver won't start (andi smart)
Re: Dual Boot wiped out by Win98 (Patrick F Harris)
Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2? (Patrick F Harris)
Re: Error when mounting SCSI ZIP Disk ("Jared R. Jones")
Re: ATA/100 and Linux (Marc Ulrich)
Re: 2.4 Kernal on RH6.1 (Marc Ulrich)
bulk changing of password ("Don Stewart")
Re: Trouble connecting SCSI AIT drive (Matt Clay)
3com NIC Card ("r")
Starting Services at Boot-Time ("Brian Glensky")
Re: bulk changing of password ("John C. Griggs")
Re: partition a 20G HD for Linux and Windows (Afonso Sam)
Re: Unix sys admin looking for advice on Lixus distro for home pc... ("Rich Blacker")
Re: 3com NIC Card (Manfred Bartz)
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From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Info on getting Qwest DSL working
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:36:43 -0700
Dear Group,
I have an Intel pro/dsl 2100 internal modem with my qwest dsl setup. Of
course, setup was a breeze on windoze, but I want this to work with my
RedHat 7.0 system.
I realize that Intel doesn't support Linux, and a winmodem is about
useless under Linux, but maybe someone has been able to get this to work.
If that is the case, please post information on where to go to find that
info. I've been unsuccessful in that endeavor.
If I am off-topic, please tell me what group to address this question
to.
Thanks in advance,
Ben R.
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: red-carpet & Debian
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:04:58 GMT
On Feb 26, 2001 at 19:49, Ahmad Al-rasheedan eloquently wrote:
>Every time I fire up red-carpet on my Progeny Debian, I get :
>
>/u1/red-carpet/bin/red-carpet
>
>libredcarpet-ERROR **: I can't figure out what distribution you're on!
>
>aborting...
>Aborted
>
>
>Any clue on how to fix the above?
Ask Ximian to support Progeny.....
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
This is the theory that Jack built.
This is the flaw that lay in the theory that Jack built.
This is the palpable verbal haze that hid the flaw that lay in...
2:02pm up 21 days, 16:36, 10 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2?
From: Ray Abbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:58:11 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, I got my linux books yesterday (Running Linux and RH 7.0
>Unleashed), and have been playing around. I've managed to
>upgrade the kernel from 2.2 to 2.4.2, and it seemed to go pretty
>well. I have two questions, one relatively minor and one that's
troubling me.
>
>First, the easy one. When I compiled the new kernel, the compiler
>gave a lot of warnings to the effect of "pasting would not generate
I haven't tried 2.4.x kernels yet, so have no answer oon this one.
>
>Now the buggaboo. When I initially installed RH 7.0, I used the
>"expert text" function, and provided a device driver disk for my
>Promise FasTrak IDE RAID controller card, which was successfully
>recognized as /dev/sda under 2.2. When I compiled 2.4.2, I didn't
>see any option for providing a driver disk, and when I boot up
That's because the driver disk is an option to RedHat's installer
program and not part of the kernal.
>under 2.4.2, it doesn't recognize the RAID card, so of course the
>MOUNT of /dev/sda fails. This is no big deal, since linux is
>installed on a different (non-RAIDed) hard drive, so all this means
>is that I can't mount my Windows partition after I've booted. What
>I suspect happened is that when I originally loaded 2.2, the
>functionality for the RAID card was loaded into the kernel via my
>driver disk. Since I didn't do anything like that when I compiled
>2.4.2, the support obviously isn't there.
When you loaded 2.2 support (loaded from the Promise driver disk)
for the RAID card was provided by a module. On my systems this is
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/scsi/ft.o and I have successfully used this
module to add Promise RAID support to other systems that used the
2.2.16-22 kernal.
>How do I add the device support for the RAID card into the 2.4.2
>kernel? I would prefer to add the support into the kernel directly,
>rather than as a loadable module, since I spend a LOT of time in the
>windows partition.
The 2.4.2 kernel has support for the Promise ATA100 cards. (You
probably didn't see it when you configured your kernel--you have
to have some other options on before you are presented with the
option.) Look in the Documentation subdirectory of your kernel
source tree for the file Configure.help and search for the first
occurence of the string "promise"
<snip>
>The README.TXT file only gives the instructions for using the driver
>disk in conjunction with the "Expert text" function as part of an
>initial RH install, nothing about using it when you compile a new kernel.
Actually at one time there was a note either on Promise's website or
in some of the documentation with the driver that said it could only
be used with RH6.2 or RH7.0 (They don't supply the source, just the
pre-compiled object module).
>Any help would be greatly appreciated. I think I may need to find a
>"dumber book" than "Running Linux" until I really get a grasp on things.
>On the other hand, since I just installed linux a few days ago, and
>just got the books yesterday, I'm happy with the progress I'm making
>(compiled and booted from a new kernel, learned how to edit LILO, mount
>devices, configure a printer under KDE, etc..) Learning this is almost
>as much fun as when I got my first computer!
>
Sounds like you are doing very well for a beginner. You've done most of
the things that beginners seem to have trouble with. Dealing with new/
or experimental drivers is beyond a lot of Linux users.
(And your last line brings a real grin to my face. If you have enjoyed
it that much so far, it just gets better.
-ray
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andi smart)
Subject: Re: gnome screensaver won't start
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:31:30 GMT
I had a very similar situation with the BSOD screensaver. But then all
of a sudden it started into life and has run fine ever since.
Try running as 'yourself' rather than as root, I think that was what
pre-empted it running for me.....
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:15:48 -0700, "Corey Wirun"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I came across the screensaver 'sonar' that I can't seem to get to work. I'm
>able to see the preview, but when I press the 'Try' button nothing happens.
>Also when I set the timeout to 1 minute it doesn't work either.
>
>GNOME itself works fine on my RH6.2. Is there something else that I can
>check?
>
>Thanks in Advance!
>Corey.
>
>
"A single open mind, can open any door" Sonia Rutstein
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From: Patrick F Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Boot wiped out by Win98
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:54:04 -0600
All
I always put LILO on the same partition as the Linux boot partition. This
is 'usually /dev/hda2' then after fixing a your Win9x installation the
usually way (reinstall): Go to the DOS prompt and do fsdisk, then set the
second partition as active. Presto LILO is back works for me every time
every time.
PS man LILO to find out the syntax.
Patrick
Rod Smith wrote:
> In article <cSmm6.3913$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "ERix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Randy Park wrote:
> >>
> >> > This worked fine until I was forced to reinstall
> >> > Win98 due to Win98 problems.
> ...
> > install W98 first, then linux--always this order
>
> Apparently you missed this point -- the original poster *DID* install
> Windows first, but (as is far too common with Windows) had to RE-install
> it. In point of fact, there are ways to recover from this situation. In
> fact, it's something of a FAQ. It's basically just necessary to boot
> with an emergency floppy and re-run LILO or GRUB (whichever you use).
> The real problem is this:
>
> >> > I tried
> >> > using the drakeboot (or is that bootdrake?) utility
> >> > but it fails with a message something like 'cylinder
> >> > is too large'.
>
> Personally, I'm not familiar with the Mandrake GUI front-end for LILO or
> GRUB; I always manually edit /etc/lilo.conf and run the lilo program
> manually. It sounds like the kernel is above the 1024-cylinder mark.
> This SHOULDN'T be a problem for GRUB or for recent versions of LILO, but
> with LILO, I believe an "lba32" line should be present in the
> /etc/lilo.conf file. Somebody else who's more familiar with the GUI
> front-ends might be able to provide more help, though; or you could try
> doing it with command lines and report the errors those tools produce.
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Patrick F Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:58:01 -0600
Ray Abbitt wrote:
>
> >First, the easy one. When I compiled the new kernel, the compiler
> >gave a lot of warnings to the effect of "pasting would not generate
I get the same messages when compiling for K7, but not K6. What processor you
are targeting.
>
>
>
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From: "Jared R. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Error when mounting SCSI ZIP Disk
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:21:19 -0500
Steve Martin wrote:
> "Jared R. Jones" wrote:
>
> > I have several ZIP disks that I use with Win98. I have an IOMEGA
> > ZIP-100 SCSI drive on
> > RedHat 6.2, Kernel 2.4.1. I have a symbolic link /dev/zip which points
> > to /dev/sdc4.
>
> What is the SCSI ID of the drive? The device node used will depend on
> that.
>
My ZIP drive is SCSI ID 05. It is the third SCSI disk drive (I have two
hard drives and two cd-rom drives). Is the partition supposed to be 4 for
the ZIP drives?
>
> > mount -t auto /dev/zip /mnt/zip
> > mount: /dev/zip is not a valid block device
>
> One other possibility is that you don't have SCSI disk support
> in the kernel. Is this a true SCSI drive, or an emulated IDE
> drive?
>
I only have SCSI drives (two hard drives, one zip, two cd-roms), so yes
I have SCSI disk support. It is a true SCSI ZIP drive.
>
> I'm a big believer in getting the stupid questions out of the
> way early, so here's a stupid question: you *did* have a disk
> in the drive when you tried to mount it, right?
I did have a disk in the ZIP drive when I tried mounting, it was a disk
formatted under Windows 98.
I hope this narrows the problem down!
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From: Marc Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATA/100 and Linux
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:19:21 -0500
Welcome to the club -- I don't know much about compiling either, but it
is what you have to do to get your system working & I've got the same
issue. There are two possible solutions. Both require compiling. You can
either patch your current kernel by determining what version you have
and downloading the matching ATA/100 kernel patch from
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/
or you can download the new 2.4.1 kernel from approximately the same
place (www.kernel.org) and install it. The 2.4.1 kernel has ATA/100
support.
Both require kernel compiling, but there is help. A good spot for that
is
http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-kernel.html
I've installed 2.4.1 on top of RedHat 7.0, but have not been able to get
everything just right b/c you have to configure the kernel to match your
system. I still don't have parts of it working.
One of the things I had to do to get linux installed in the first place
was to put the HD on a ATA/66 controller (maybe you can do this in the
bios? -- I had an offboard PCI controller so all I had to switch
connectors). Once you've installed Linux that way, you can apply the
patch or recompile a new kernel and switch back to the other controller.
I hope this helps,
Marc
Phil Budgell wrote:
>
> I am trying to install Linux on my computer...I have a 30 gig ATA/100 hd and
> can't get linux to pickup my drive....anyone know of a way around this or of
> a version that supports it?? I am trying to larn Linux so I don't know much
> about compiling.
>
> thx
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From: Marc Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4 Kernal on RH6.1
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:22:19 -0500
Why not? Actually, if you look at the help files that you may find, they
give you a list of the necessary versions of various programs that you
need and how to check before you start compiling the 2.4.x kernel for
your system. I've used the following site as a guide and it does a good
job. Although, it doesn't ensure that you'll be able to figure out the
details of your system. I still don't have my 2.4.1 working on all
accounts, though I can use it fine (ie: no sound and no NFS).
http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-kernel.html
Marc
cour wrote:
>
> Is it possible to install the 2.4 Kernel into the 6.1 architecture?
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From: "Don Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bulk changing of password
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:44:48 -0500
Am adding a couple hundred users to a linux network, I can copy the passwd
file from another network - but is there a way to batch the setting of the
passwords?
I can have an ascii file with login & password, but I don't know how to
interface with the passwd program. is there another way?
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From: Matt Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Trouble connecting SCSI AIT drive
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:42:57 -0600
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In comp.os.linux.hardware Matt Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I'm having trouble connecting an externally mounted Seagate
> >> Sidewinder-50 AIT drive to a RH 7.0 box. The machine is using an Adaptec
> >> 29160N SCSI controller card and has all the latest RH updates.
>
> >> I've heard that there may be some incompatibilities between the 29160
> >> card and the Sidewinder-50 and was wondering if anyone had found
> >> anything similar?
>
> Following up to myself here, because I was wrong. The AIT-1 drive is
> likely Single Ended (SE). You *can* put an SE device on an LVD chain --
> it just forces the whole chain (including any other LVD devices) into
> the much slower (and more highly restricted cable length) SE mode.
Thanks for the help. I was just trying to track down exactly what type of drive it
was when I found out it was SE and that it is compatible with LVD. Unfortunately,
that means that we can't fix the incompatibility by getting an adapter...
Anyone else have any ideas on what might be the problem?
Thanks for the help and replies,
Matt
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From: "r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,corelsupport.linux.corellinux,corelsupport.linux.networking
Subject: 3com NIC Card
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:19:25 GMT
Just wondering if someone can tell me how to install a network card using
the corel linux os. The card is a 3com 3c509b-tpo. Just directions to
installing any card would be great.
Thanks
Rob
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From: "Brian Glensky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Starting Services at Boot-Time
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:35:34 GMT
I just downloaded and setup a dynamic domain name with DNS2GO.com and it is
working great. My question is, how do I add it so it starts up and shuts
down with the system??
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:36:43 +0000
From: "John C. Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bulk changing of password
Don Stewart wrote:
>
> Am adding a couple hundred users to a linux network, I can copy the passwd
> file from another network - but is there a way to batch the setting of the
> passwords?
> I can have an ascii file with login & password, but I don't know how to
> interface with the passwd program. is there another way?
Don,
Have a look at chpasswd. It does what you want and accepts passwords in
either encrypted or plaintext form.
HTH,
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Afonso Sam)
Subject: Re: partition a 20G HD for Linux and Windows
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:06:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 05:51:33 +1100, Stanislaw Flatto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In this way you keep each OS on its own primary and extended partitions
>and both happy.
>Try to use FDISK.EXE to create the DOS partitions and fdisk for Linux
>parts. (It can be done with fdisk but some times it hickups, so few more
>floppy bootings save a lot later).
no, unhappy.
I made a Primary DOS partiton of 2G, then
By using the RH6.2 install CD(fdisk), I made two linux
partions, 64M for /boot, and 8G for linux extended
parition(for linux paritions ), then, I went back to windows'
FDISK.EXE, made the DOS extended partition(10G).
so, insequence, I have a DOS partition (2G),a linux partition(64M),
a linux exteneded parition(8G), and finally a DOS exteneded
partition(10G),
It seems ok to Windows98 to access the logical drive in the DOS
exteneded partition(10G). But problem occurs when installing RH6.2,
The fdisk promtp the error of two extended partitions found on the ard
drive. DOS ext.(10G-type f) and Linux ext. (8G-type 85).
so, what is the problem?
Afonso Sam
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From: "Rich Blacker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Unix sys admin looking for advice on Lixus distro for home pc...
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:58:14 GMT
I agree with Mark. Although there are many good linux distributions,
Slackware helped me learn the innner-workings of Linux in a relatively quick
time. Red Hat and Caldera (not to mention Mandrake and TurboLinux) all do
too much for you, limiting the initial control over the environment, whereas
Slackware sets up some deafults, but makes it painless to change anything
you do not like, provided you know a little about what is happening.
If you don't like the command line, Slackware (just as its other Linux
distro cousins) has the GUI tools required to administer the system from X,
but the command line is much more powerful, and should never be replaced
with a GUI (in my opinion).
Good luck, brotha'!
Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:44:52 GMT, "SFShadow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> >Good afternoon. I'm a unix solaris sys admin and i'm looking to install
> >linux on my home i386 pc along with win98 so I can start to get a feel
for
> >the linux os. I would like to get some advice on which distro to go
with.
> >I'm currently contemplating freebsd, netbsd, or debian. I want to learn
> >linux config, setup, etc.. so that's why i'm looking at these versions
> >although i haven't made a decision yet.
>
> Distribution selection, like many things with Unix/Linux, is typically a
> religious debate. From my perspective, it really depends on what you want
> to get out of the experience. If you want to really _learn_ Linux, I
would
> recommend Slackware. If you want to learn how to set up what's most
> 'popular,' but not necessarily understand what's going on behind the GUI
> tools, then RedHat, SuSE, etc. I stumbled onto Slackware by accident.
I've
> never regretted it and have learned a lot in the relatively short time
I've
> been using Linux.
>
> Mark Post
>
> Postmodern Consulting
> Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
> To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,corelsupport.linux.corellinux,corelsupport.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com NIC Card
From: Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:03:21 GMT
"r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just wondering if someone can tell me how to install a network card
> using the corel linux os. The card is a 3com 3c509b-tpo. Just
> directions to installing any card would be great.
The 3c509 is well supported, there is even a Linux based config
utility. You can of course also use the DOS based utility
available from 3Com.
<http://www.scyld.com/page/support/network/>
More general info:
<http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html>
look for ``ether''
--
Manfred
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ipchainsLogAnalyzer, NetCalc, whois at: <http://logi.cc/linux/>
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