Linux-Setup Digest #721, Volume #20 Tue, 27 Feb 01 22:13:13 EST
Contents:
cannot update from 7 to 7.1 scsi devices??????????? (yup!)
Slow to accept connections. (jeff)
Re: Embarrassingly simple newbie question.... (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Which ethernet speed is up? (Andrew Morton)
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Greg H.")
Help with Corel Linux Install
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Greg H.")
Re: Embarrassingly simple newbie question.... (DTi4565459)
Re: Slow to accept connections. (H.Bruijn)
Re: Booting Raid 1 or 5 ("Ron Reaugh")
Re: Partition Scheme for Storm/Debian Linux ("Greg H.")
Mandrake 7.0 "cannot find screen" help!!! (DOKool)
COMPAQ PRESARIO 1200-XL400 and X Windows (Larry)
Re: Embarrassingly simple newbie question.... (Scott Gardner)
Re: replacing freebsd with linux (E J)
Re: replacing freebsd with linux (E J)
Re: upgrade from rh 6.1 to 6.2 (E J)
glibc-2.2-9.i686.rpm ("Paul Folbrecht")
Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7 ("Paul Folbrecht")
Re: network card configuration (GroundZero)
Re: Newbie needs help with Qmail (GroundZero)
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From: yup! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cannot update from 7 to 7.1 scsi devices???????????
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:32:45 +0000
I am trying to update from mandrake 7 to mandrake 7.1.
The setup keeps asking if I have any scsi devices and the answer is
NO. Mandrake 7 says that my cd r/w is a scsci but it is ide???
I cannot get past this blasted item.
HELP!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slow to accept connections.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:36:00 GMT
I am running redhat 6.1 and it seems slow to accept connections for
telnet and the pop3 server from the internal network. External on the
other had it rocks.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Embarrassingly simple newbie question....
Date: 27 Feb 2001 18:47:21 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott Gardner wrote:
> Also, why is that if I type "ls" in a directory, it just
> returns the file and subdirectory names in that directory, but If I
> type "ls a*", and there is a subdirectory under the current directory
> that starts with "a", it lists all of the files inside that
> subdirectory? It seems that sometimes, "ls" recurses by itself, but I
> can't figure out how to make it search recursively when I want it
> to...
First, remember that the shell expands "a*" into a list of files (if
appropriate) before starting the "ls" command.
Then, "ls argument[s]" works (something) like this:
If an argument is a directory, then print its name and list its contents.
Otherwise, if the argument is there in the filesystem, print the name.
Otherwise, print an error message.
You can prevent "ls" from listing the contents of any directory arguments
by giving the "-d" (or "--directory") flag. (Yeah, you can also run "ls
-d" alone, but what use is that? All right, maybe you want "ls -ld", which
is somewhat informative.)
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Which ethernet speed is up?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:50:05 +0000
Eric Aversa wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how you can tell at which speed your ethernet link is
> connected? (10, 100, 1000?)
Run `mii-diag' or the appropriate diagnostic program for
your NIC and sift through the output.
http://www.scyld.com/diag/
yes, it does suck.
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From: "Greg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:04:17 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, some will agree. And there is plenty wrong with what he said. For
I should have said "some, " I agree.
> one thing, it's only relevant to relatively lazy people who don't care
> about the condition of their disk, its recoverability, or a mound of
> other considerations that are discussed in the HOWTO ...
Casual use does not equal laziness. These issues are only relevant when
the situation calls for it. When you can do a clean install in less than
a half hour these days, and that's all that matters to you, then these
things usual aren't issues.
>> that HOWTO is intended for servers and multi-user systems, not casual
> Nonsense. It tells you about the issues.
Yes, it tells you about the issues. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing
the relevance to home users who like to keep up on the latest software
and hardware drivers and only have to worry about themselves, not a mess
of other users.
> Nonsense nonsense nonsense. I suppose I don't have the time and effort
> to partition my debian slackware suse and redhat machines, eh? I mean,
> I only have about a couple of hundred of them ...
But the argument is for home users who usually have one box.
> EExcept that /var will be on your /root and/or /home partition, which
> is an error of truly monumental proportions in either case.
Maybe I should have put more emphasis on the "newbie" although I hate the
associated stigma(s). How many will know what to do when partitions are
truly fscked? And even then, how many will pass up a super-easy clean
install?
> Which is not the situation EVER in a multitasking o/s. Don't try and
> apply dos/windows logic. You are NOT the only user on your disk, even
> if you are the only user in your house.
I can see this if your arguments included things like search time and disk
spanning, but the argument assumes one, maybe two, harddisks where speed
is dictated by your hardware -- IDE/SCSI, RPM, etc -- and are increasingly
less of a problem.
>> Unless you actually take the time to perform backups and carry out true
> Like everyone.
You mean to tell me you think everyone (read "home users") routinely backs
up everything and not just what's most precious (e.g. love letters and MP3s)?
You've got to be kidding. If that were true, I'd think these newsgroups
would have far fewer posts. This is not a slam on my fellow users, but I'm
trying to be realistic.
> Why would they back up anything else except that and /etc and parts of /var?
> I don't! The rest just comes from a distro, which is replacable. This
> is not the problem. The problem is when your machine breaks, which it
> will do at frequencies of about once every three months to once every
> two years, depending on luck or circumstance.
But you're just proving my point. Why back up anything other than that?
Hence, why partition anything beyond that? I admit I didn't originally
include /var as a seperate partition, but OK, sure (/etc notwithstanding
for reasons we both know -- /etc partition bad, bad!).
If any other sorts of partitions such as /usr get hosed and you're going
to replace via the distro., then why have many partitions in this setting?
Please point out what I'm overlooking (<excuse>my eyes are glazed over from a
long day</excuse>). Where is the problem given this specific user setting?
> Backup questions are orthogonal. Look .. the issue is whether you think
> that having rooms in your house is a good thing or not. Sure, it saves
> all kinds of thinking and planning if you don't have internal walls,
> and it avoids the problem of not being able to fit the sofa in the
> small room. But do you really want to cook in the living room? If not,
> why not? What's wrong with washing your clothes in the bedroom?
OK, granted, but IMO, we're not talking about the stable, functional, high
usage home that we want to take good care of. We're talking about the vacation
home that gets used when you have free time. Unless you've got money to burn,
that one room shack does just fine. Little maintenance, no worries, gets the
job done, and is functional for it's primary purpose given the time spent there.
> So what? Has the person read them? Has he read the howto? If not, he is
> ignorant of the issues involved.
In that case, yes. But beyond that, the need is arguable.
To me, backups serve two purposes: (1) save unreplaceable data, and (2) cut
way down on restoration time in the event of data corruption or loss. We
take care of #1 by backing up /home, /etc and maybe /var. #2 is taken care
of via the multitudes of slick, fast and easy installations care of our vast
selection of distros. Now, couple on the partition argument at hand. Your
precious data in /home, /etc, and /var are isolated from the corruption of
other partitions (or partition in my view). You said yourself the rest is
taken care of by the distro. Hence, why break up what's left? Remember, I'm
not talking about servers and multi-user (as in humans, not daemons and other
processes) systems; I'm concentrating on Joe Linux.
Phew! Have I gone completely OT on this thread or what? I hope I didn't make
the poster who started this thread regret it :-)
Greg
-Aside from our differing opinions, I appreciate your civility. After I posted
yesterday, I realized I could have been nicer. Thanks.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Corel Linux Install
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:30:08 -0000
Hello,
When I boot up from the Corel Linux cd and load up the setup, the install
GUI is infalted huge!
All I can see is a half a screen of text and I can't figure out how to
adjust this somehow... It might be my video card, I'm using a Leadtek
GeForce 2 GTS.
When I try to blindly install by pressing enter and selecting default
install, I get to a screen where it says click the icon at the bottom to
begin install in which I can't because I can't see the icon since my res
is inflated!
If anyone can help me on this, it will be much appreciated!
Thanks!
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Greg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:26:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you do not have time to perform backups, you will have to make much
> more time to recover lost files without the backups. While hardware
> and (some) software is more reliable than in the past, my experience
> in the computing business since about 1954 has made me very conscious
> of the problems of data (including program) loss, and I do backups
> every day. If you do not care how your storage is partitioned, and
> cannot find the time to do backups (how much time could it take if
> cron does it while you are asleep), why do you care about anything?
> Why have a computer at all?
Read my subsequent post.
Besides, I never said I didn't care. I said I didn't see the need to
go beyond having a seperate partition for /home, swap, /, and maybe
/boot. And I never said I didn't have time or would not do backups.
I back up what's unreplaceable. The distros these days take care of
the rest. And my argument pertains to personal use. Servers and multi-
user systems are a totally different story, which I feel were not the
focus of this thread.
I'm sorry if what I wrote was not clear.
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
Date: 28 Feb 2001 00:28:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Embarrassingly simple newbie question....
>What is the best way from the command line to find out where a
>particular file resides on my hard drive? I've noticed that "ls"
>seems to have some fundamental differences from the DOS "dir" command.
try locate filename*
dave
http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/
(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Slow to accept connections.
Date: 28 Feb 2001 00:38:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:36:00 GMT, jeff allegedly wrote:
> I am running redhat 6.1 and it seems slow to accept connections for
>telnet and the pop3 server from the internal network. External on the
>other had it rocks.
>Any ideas?
It tries to do a reverse lookup for the ip-numbers. When that times out
(there are no in-adrr.arpa records for the reserved ip ranges) then the
connection is made. That is the wait.
2 possible solutions:
* add the internal hosts to /etc/hosts
* When you run your own DNS create the in-adrr.arpa for the ip range the
local network uses.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting Raid 1 or 5
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:37:21 GMT
julius wrote in message ...
>
>Hi,
>
>On a system with hardware RAID level 5, booting Linux on RAID devices, if
>one drive fails, does the system boot, before replacing the drive? (not
>hotswap)
Normally, yes.
>And if instead of RAID level 5 we have a level 1 (mirroring)? Does the
>system boot if one drive fails, before replacing the drive?
Normally, yes.
>Does the rebuild, after replacing a drive, allows booting the system w/o
>problems? In both levels?
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From: "Greg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition Scheme for Storm/Debian Linux
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:50:31 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup Brian S Enyart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /usr and /etc could benefit from being placed on a read-only partition,
You don't want to make /etc it's own partition, because your fstab file
is there. Without it, the system won't know which partitions to mount,
where to mount them, and how to mount them at boot time. Making it read-only,
though, is a good idea. Just keep /etc with the / partition.
Greg
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From: DOKool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Mandrake 7.0 "cannot find screen" help!!!
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:21:14 GMT
DrakX installation always goes well up to this point... then i have to
pick out a monitor. Every combination of one of the generic monitor
types w/ the ATI All In Wonder card ends up w/ DrakX not finding the
damn screen. anyone else have this problem?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: COMPAQ PRESARIO 1200-XL400 and X Windows
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:31:38 GMT
Hello All,
I'm having problems configuring X Windows on my COMPAQ PRESARIO
1200-XL400 laptop system with RH7.
The display driver is Trident CyberBlade i1 AGP(77)
I read ALOT post for similar systems with no results; all I keep
getting is 1 inch of the right hand side of the display.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gardner)
Subject: Re: Embarrassingly simple newbie question....
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:51:46 GMT
On 28 Feb 2001 00:28:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
wrote:
>>What is the best way from the command line to find out where a
>>particular file resides on my hard drive? I've noticed that "ls"
>>seems to have some fundamental differences from the DOS "dir" command.
>
>try locate filename*
> dave
>
>http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/
>
>(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )
Thanks. Found "locate" a little after I posted my question. Thanks
for all the replies.
Scott
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacing freebsd with linux
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:17:23 GMT
Have you use linux fdisk to change the partition id of freebsd to linux then
reformat the partition using linux?
Chad Whitten wrote:
> I have two machines, both running freebsd that I want to change over to
> linux. Problem is, I cannot get rid of the freebsd partitions. linux fdisk
> seg-faults every time I try to remove them or change them. dos fdisk will
> tell me it gets rid of them but then I boot back up with a linux or *bsd
> boot disk and do fdisk and they are still there. I can even install windows
> on the machine, run it for a few days, reboot with the linux disk, do fdisk
> and it shows the four bsd partitions? any ideas on how to get by this.
>
> --
> DNS Administrator
> Nexband Communications
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacing freebsd with linux
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:17:41 GMT
Have you use linux fdisk to change the partition id of freebsd to linux then
reformat the partition using linux?
Chad Whitten wrote:
> I have two machines, both running freebsd that I want to change over to
> linux. Problem is, I cannot get rid of the freebsd partitions. linux fdisk
> seg-faults every time I try to remove them or change them. dos fdisk will
> tell me it gets rid of them but then I boot back up with a linux or *bsd
> boot disk and do fdisk and they are still there. I can even install windows
> on the machine, run it for a few days, reboot with the linux disk, do fdisk
> and it shows the four bsd partitions? any ideas on how to get by this.
>
> --
> DNS Administrator
> Nexband Communications
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upgrade from rh 6.1 to 6.2
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:35:20 GMT
2) But do an UPGRADE install of INSTALL and pick the packages you want to upgrade and
install.
Robert Davis wrote:
> Hi
>
> I want to upgrade my system from redhat 6.1 to 6.2.
> What is the easiest way?
> 1. Just update the components that I would like newer:
> sendmail, imap, kernel, ftpd, apache
> 2. Download the full cd and install from that. The way I initially did the install.
> 3. Use ftp install
>
> Or
>
> Someway to magically tell linux to update thyself.
> Sounds like the ftp install could be the easiest.
> Ideally the ibstall would not need a install floppy made.
> Wouldnt require a reboot until it had finished downloading the components I want.
>
> TIA
> bob
>
> --
> The phenomenon of UFO doesn't say anything about
> the presence of intelligence in space.
> It just shows how rare it is here on the earth.
> A.C.Clarke
>
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From: "Paul Folbrecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: glibc-2.2-9.i686.rpm
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:42:53 GMT
I want to patch my RH 7 install with the glibc fix, and the link to the file
is broken on Red Hat's site! I tried both Netscape under Linux and IE in
W2K.
Does anyone know another place I can get it? The file is
glibc-2.2-9.i686.rpm. Thanks.
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From: "Paul Folbrecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:45:43 GMT
Anyone else have this problem? Maybe it's due to those buggy unpatched
glibc libs. That's what I'm hoping anyway.
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: network card configuration
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GroundZero)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:52:38 GMT
"Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <977ck4$3nv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Well, I think I should repeat my question. For
>this particular machine, I know the card & also
>the module. But if I do not know what card it is,
>how do I find out the card(apart from opening the
>box) & also which module is for the card. Is there
>something like sndconfig(which auto-detects the
>sound-card & modifies the modules.conf
>appropriately)?
>
Hopefully you know what card you have.
Hopefully it is an PCI and not a too wierd one ( i.e. you have the driver
for it)
now insert into your /etc/modules.conf the previously mentioned line :
alias eth0 <module_name>
then save the file and at shell prompt type :
modprobe eth0
and pray it will work. This thing will try to probe your hardware for the
specified module and if it finds it it will load it into the kernel.
Also you might want to look at the EThernet-HOWTO over www.linuxdoc.org
PS : The fun part starts when you have two or more similar nics and you'll
end up wondering which is which. In that case, just install them one by
one.
Regards,
GZ
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Subject: Re: Newbie needs help with Qmail
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GroundZero)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:57:52 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Maybe I don't understand. But it seems to me there should be an easy
>installation process for qmal and a Gui based setup for the users
>etc...
there is not.
>
>Am I wrong. Half the time I can't tell if I actually have it
>installed right and if it is actually running.
well, if you can send/receive emails than it is installed correctly. If
not, then NO.
>I have read the "life with qmail" But I don't even see where you put
>in the usernames and passwords.
Read it again. Go to www.qmail.org and dig into the docs
Also search over internet for tutorials...might hit the jackpot.
About the password thing. Why do you need it? You do not authenticate users
via qmail. If you are trying to set up a IMAP4 or a POP3 server , that's
another thing, but qmail does not need usernames and passwords.
Regards,
GroundZero
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