Linux-Setup Digest #724, Volume #20              Wed, 28 Feb 01 11:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: Slow to accept connections. ("ThndrDuk")
  newsgroup server on the Intranet - linux 5.2 (niketan sharma)
  Re: COMPAQ PRESARIO 1200-XL400 and X Windows ("Sean")
  Re: Fork a compile into the background ? (Steve Martin)
  Re: setting up a PNP modem (Steve Martin)
  Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7 (Steve Martin)
  Partition sizes ("K. Jeya")
  Re: crc errors at boot (Luigi Cavallo)
  help with load-balancing on 2 DSL connections (Hung Ngoc Lai)
  Re: Partition sizes (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Color setting problem!!! (tertr)
  Re: RH 7.0: is it stable and easy to install? (H Dziardziel)
  Re: cannot update from 7 to 7.1 scsi devices??????????? (Mike Perry)
  Re: help with bandwidth management (Eric Buddington)
  Can I install Linux only using iso image? (Try more)
  Re: Can I install Linux only using iso image? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: Linux partitioning question ("Cjv")
  Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7 (Anthony PIRON)
  Re: Linux partitioning question (Jean-David Beyer)
  Cannot log in directly as root (John Dubchak)
  Replacing Mandrake by Debian (Anthony PIRON)
  Re: Kernel 2.4.2 and 'all blowed up' on e2fsck check of /dev/hda1 ("Rake@Q3")

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From: "ThndrDuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow to accept connections.
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:06:33 -0400

Thanks
 Seems to be working like a charm!!!

:)

Jeff



H.Bruijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:36:00 GMT, jeff allegedly wrote:
> > I am running redhat 6.1 and it seems slow to accept connections for
> >telnet and the pop3 server from the internal network. External on the
> >other had it rocks.
> >Any ideas?
>
> It tries to do a reverse lookup for the ip-numbers. When that times out
> (there are no in-adrr.arpa records for the reserved ip ranges) then the
> connection is made. That is the wait.
>
> 2 possible solutions:
> * add the internal hosts to /etc/hosts
> * When you run your own DNS create the in-adrr.arpa for the ip range the
>   local network uses.
>
>
> --
> If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Herman Bruijn                            mail:          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The Netherlands                       website:   http://hermanbruijn.com



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From: niketan sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newsgroup server on the Intranet - linux 5.2
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:30:04 -0000

hello
leafnode require newsfeeder as well as INN requires newsfeeder then what 
to do how to hold internal newsgroup server how to creat internal 
newsgroup server
please help
niketan 

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Reply-To: "Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COMPAQ PRESARIO 1200-XL400 and X Windows
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:27:25 +0100

I had the same problem in a compaq 12-xl302.
Finally I decide to use FrameBuffer and all works fine (but without 3d
accelleration).
If you get news on configuring the presario with redhat 7.0 and trident
driver, let me know please.
Bye

    Sam

"Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm having problems configuring X Windows on my COMPAQ PRESARIO
> 1200-XL400 laptop system with RH7.
>
> The display driver is Trident CyberBlade i1 AGP(77)
>
> I read ALOT post for similar systems with no results; all I keep
> getting is 1 inch of the right hand side of the display.
>
> Any help would be great.
>
> Thanks
>



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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fork a compile into the background ?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:00:31 -0500

Paul Kimoto wrote:

> > nohup make bzlilo modules modules_install >& /dev/null &
>                                             ^^
> 
> (Warning: the ">&" is csh syntax.)

Works under bash, too, at least it does here. (?)

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting up a PNP modem
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:09:24 -0500

J Phillips wrote:

> PS I would be weary of com3 (ttyS2) becuse it traditionaly shares an IRQ
> with com1 (ttyS0). It works until you try to move the mouse.
> 
> > I would certainly appreciate anyone's comments.

I've had some success with a modem on ttyS2. The modem is jumpered
for the normal 3E8 I/O address, but for IRQ 9. In /etc/rc.d/rc.serial,
I put the command

    /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 9

and on bootup it changes the IRQ that ttyS2 uses. This has worked
like a charm for me for about a year. (Note that, if you go
back and enter the setserial command to verify the change,
it will show that the IRQ was set to IRQ 2; this is normal,
it actually changes to 9 but displays 2 for historical <?>
reasons...)

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:11:47 -0500

Paul Folbrecht wrote:
> 
> Anyone else have this problem?  Maybe it's due to those buggy unpatched
> glibc libs.  That's what I'm hoping anyway.

Dump Netscape 6 and drop back to the 4.7 series. Netscape 6 is pukeware.
Another wonderful service brought to you by the folks at AOL.

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From: "K. Jeya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition sizes
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:07:14 -0500

Hi,
What is a good partion size to install Mandrake7.2 on 3G hadrdrive of
Pentium233 PC with 96MB mem
/ root
/ swap
/usr
/var
/home

Thanks,
Jey.

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From: Luigi Cavallo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: crc errors at boot
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:43:54 +0100

I have the same problem with my Dell i8k. The original kernel from install
(RH 7.0) still works. I have this problem with the kernels I am trying to
compile.
I compiled a few 2.4 and I booted them successfully. Then, to have the pcmcia
card working I downgraded to 2.2, and after 2-3 booting kernels it doesn't
boot anymore freshly compiled kernels. An old 2.4 kernel I made, still works.

I also wiped off completely /usr/src/linux, and re-compiled from scratch. No
luck.

Does it helps to track down the bug ?

luigi

Greg Walrath wrote:

> Small error in my listing below. The screen actually looks like this:
>
> Loading RedHat............
> Uncompressing Linux...
>
> crc error
>
>  -- System halted
>
> I've also found that it will always boot consistently off of the RedHat
> boot disk that I created when I installed RedHat to the hard drive.
>
> Is there something I need to recover off of this disk that is keeping it
> from booting off of the hard drive?
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Greg Walrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm having problems getting Linux to run on my Dell XPS T600r. It loads
> > and initially runs fine the first time, but I can't get it to do that
> > consistently afterwards.
> >
> > When I boot in to the system on subsequent loads, I get the following:
> >
> > Running linux............
> > Unpacking Linux...
> >
> > crc error
> >
> > -----System Halted
> >
> > This happens with Red Hat 7.0; about 1 time out of 10 it will load
> > properly; the other times I get that error. I also tried this with
> > TurboLinux 6.0.20SE, and got the same result, though I was _never_ able
> > to boot in to that OS at all - I always got this CRC error.
> >
> > I have a dual-boot system with Win98 and (my attempts at) Linux. When I
> > boot in to Windows and run various disk-checking software, it turns up
> > no errors.
> >
> > Anyone else seen this, and been able to resolve it?
>
> --
> Greg Walrath
> Dont' include the no.spam. in replies!


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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with load-balancing on 2 DSL connections
Date: 28 Feb 2001 14:31:59 GMT

Hi Everyone,

I have this problem and in need of help ASAP.
I have a linux box running RedHat 7.0 with kernel
2.4.2.  I am using this box as the firewall/NAT
for my internal network. This box is currently has
2 NICs, one NIC is connected to the internal 
network which uses private network network
space (172.16.1.0/24).  The other NIC is connected
to the DSL modem with a valid IP address
(199.0.216.222/30).  The internal network can access
the Internet via ipmasquerading (i.e. iptable) with
no problem   In a week or so, I need to put 
another NIC into this linux box to connect to 
another DSL provider with a valid IP address
(129.174.1.8/30).  Why, you might ask?
Because my company would like to have 
redundancy in case one DSL connection
fails so no workflow can be disrupted.  Basically, 
this linux will have 2 connections out to the
Internet.  I would like to be able to load-balance
the traffic on both DSL connection.  How can
I make this to work?  I am a new linux newbie so
please  be gentle with me.  I need a quick solution
for this.  Many thanks.

David
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition sizes
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:53:28 +0100

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, K. Jeya wrote:

> Hi,
> What is a good partion size to install Mandrake7.2 on 3G hadrdrive of
> Pentium233 PC with 96MB mem

That depends quite a lot on the use of the box. I assume a normal
workstation.

> / root

100Mb

> / swap

200Mb

> /usr

1.5Gb

> /var

No special partition for /var

> /home

The rest.

Rasmus


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From: tertr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Color setting problem!!!
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:53:18 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am using Redhat6.2 and under tcsh shell,  when I am in text
mode(level3), the directory and file names can have color highlight.
However, when I enter xterm inside graphical mode(level5), the color
highlight disapper and make me a bit inconventient in distinguishing
between directory and files in browsing. When I change the shell to
bash, everythings is all right.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Dziardziel)
Subject: Re: RH 7.0: is it stable and easy to install?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:12:54 GMT

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:18:49 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Perry)
wrote:


>
>I think even with "plenty of ram" its always a good choice to have a swap
>partition.  Some programs from what I have read look for such allocations
>and make use of them.  I don't use gnome or kde these days, but do both of
>these or their apps make use of swap partitions?
>
>-- 
>Michael Perry
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>------------------
Swap space can be a file.  A partition may be useful as a safety valve
in a multi user/server case but on a basic single user or workstation
it is wasting space I believe.  With only 32mb's of ram I rarely saw
swap used significantly despite 3 or 4 X applications like gnome,kde,
netscape plus terminals.  With a 128mb, not so uncommon, who needs it?
If there is a crash what good is a swap space?  Only a programmer can
decipher the remains.  And if the data was that important why have so
casually in potential memory limbo?  Etc etc.

 
Swap has become a holy grail from what I see.  People are setting up
swap sizes that are nearly as large as the installation?  When RAM was

dear swap had a good reason to be used but not the preferred method of
course.  Again, in a server or industrial base with applications that
dump data to a swap space one has no choice of course.  But that is a
poorly written application in my opinion.  A swap file of hundreds of
megabytes should mean massive cpu engines in turn meaning ample ram
or what's the use of the cpu horsepower?  And so what's the use of
slow swap space with or without paging?  My thoughts.  Regards  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Perry)
Subject: Re: cannot update from 7 to 7.1 scsi devices???????????
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:18:34 -0000

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:32:45 +0000, yup! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to update from mandrake 7 to mandrake 7.1.
>The setup keeps asking if I have any scsi devices and the answer is
>NO. Mandrake 7 says that my cd r/w is a scsci but it is ide???
>
>I cannot get past this blasted item.
>
>HELP!
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would remove the ide-scsi emulation before trying to update.  Take the
device back to its regular ide cd state.  When you do scsi emulation, you
load a module called ide-scsi which fakes out the scsi bus a bit.  I bet the
update sees some phantom scsi loaded and thinks its a real scsi device.

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Buddington)
Subject: Re: help with bandwidth management
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:19:46 GMT

In article <979ovi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hung Ngoc Lai wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Is there any freeware or shareware in Linux that allows me to
>control the bandwidth utilization of specific services.  Right

The kernel has priority schedulers that ought to be of use to
you. I've never played with them, though. If you do,
write the HOWTO for the rest of us!

-Eric


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Try more)
Subject: Can I install Linux only using iso image?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:38:14 GMT

Hello there,

Many distribution suppy iso image on their ftp server. 
I'm not have a CD Writer. Well, is there a way to install some distribution 
using iso image? 

I just tried mounting the iso image. It worked fine. 

Thanks,


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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I install Linux only using iso image?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:44:14 +0100

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Try more wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> Many distribution suppy iso image on their ftp server.
> I'm not have a CD Writer. Well, is there a way to install some distribution
> using iso image?

Not directly from the iso-image. You could copy everything out of the
iso and do harddisk install though.

Rasmus


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From: "Cjv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:34:06 -0800


"Floyd Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith) wrote:

> For instance, in most of the multi-partition examples shown in
> this thread there have been both a /tmp and a /var partition.
> That is an unnecessary waste of disk space.  The /var partition
> is going to suffer high fragmentation, which is one reason it
> should be a separate partition, but that also makes it a great
> place for /tmp to physically be located.  Both /tmp and /usr/tmp
> should be symlinks to /var/tmp.
>
    How would I symlink /tmp and /usr/tmp to /var/tmp when they seem to be
created automatically when I do the install?? (Im a newbie)

> Other obvious candidates for locating on other partitions with a
> symlink are /usr/local, /usr/X11, /opt, and where ever it is
> that emacs/xemacs or tex are located.
>
> Likewise the /home directory can actually be on one or more
> other partitions.  /home itself can be a symlink, but so can
> each user's directory if that is useful (as might be for the
> /home/ftp directory, as an example).
>
> Hence, while it is possible to get / or /usr partitions too
> small, they will be too small to even install the first time if
> that is true.  If those partitions are large enough to actually
> manage a functional install to begin with, they *never* require
> resizing.
>
> --


Floyd, If I were to do a fresh install then, how many original partitions do
you suggest I create? Then how would I use symlinks (as you describe)?
Would this approach be harder to restore if one of the partitions became
unstable?







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From: Anthony PIRON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:46:47 +0100

Download Mozilla from www.mozilla.org. The new release seems more stable
and quicker than netscape6.


Paul Folbrecht wrote:

> Anyone else have this problem?  Maybe it's due to those buggy unpatched
> glibc libs.  That's what I'm hoping anyway.

--
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Universite Libre de Bruxelles, Department of Computer Science
CP 212 - Boulevard du Triomphe, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium
Tel. +32 2 650 50 55, Fax +32 2 650 56 09, GSM +32 478 530 022
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/ssd/apiron




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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:54:58 -0500

"Greg H." wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.setup Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > If you do not have time to perform backups, you will have to make much
> > more time to recover lost files without the backups. While hardware
> > and (some) software is more reliable than in the past, my experience
> > in the computing business since about 1954 has made me very conscious
> > of the problems of data (including program) loss, and I do backups
> > every day. If you do not care how your storage is partitioned, and
> > cannot find the time to do backups (how much time could it take if
> > cron does it while you are asleep), why do you care about anything?
> > Why have a computer at all?
> 
> Read my subsequent post.
> 
> Besides, I never said I didn't care.  I said I didn't see the need to
> go beyond having a seperate partition for /home, swap, /, and maybe
> /boot.  And I never said I didn't have time or would not do backups.
> I back up what's unreplaceable.  The distros these days take care of
> the rest.  And my argument pertains to personal use.  Servers and multi-
> user systems are a totally different story, which I feel were not the
> focus of this thread.
> 
1.) Linux and UNIX are multi-user systems, so it is not a totally
different story in this newsgroup.

2.) I have a CD-ROM with, roughly, my current distro on it. I have a
boxfull of CD-ROMs for IBM DB2 UDB V6.1; it takes a very long time to
install that correctly.
I have a floppy for my BRU backup utility. I have a CD-ROM for
Applixware 5.00, etc. But all that stuff has upgrades I have
downloaded and applied. Some of that stuff can no longer be found at
the URLs from which I originally got them. It would take weeks to
recover all that stuff and do all the reconfiguration all over again.
I can do a fresh install on my machine in a little less than an hour,
but it takes about a week to get all the configurations right again,
not counting getting all the updates that must be applied on top of
all the physical media I have on hand.

That is why I backup everything onto tape everyday. I restore my OS
from its CD-ROM, install the BRU utility, and then read in the whole
tape and I am back to where I left off. In principle, I need not even
do that, since I have an OBDR tape drive and I have made OBDR backup
tapes. Presumably I can just boot the machine with an OBDR tape in the
drive, holding the eject button for over 5 seconds, and the whole
system will be restored, including all the settings and all the
contents of /dev (for example). 

I cannot imagine trying to do a full restore from the physical media
lying around here.

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From: John Dubchak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot log in directly as root
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:58:11 GMT

Hi,

I have a Red Hat 6.2 System (stand alone) and when I try to attempt to
login to X, for instance from a fresh reboot, I'm prevented from doing
so.  The screen goes blank for a second and then returns with the log in
dialog.

I am able to "su" to root after logging in as another user, but from an
X-term session I cannot run linuxconf.  This makes me think that my
setup is messed up.

Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions or assistance,
John


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From: Anthony PIRON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Replacing Mandrake by Debian
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:00:07 +0100

Hi all,

 I would like to replace my current mandrake distribution by a debian.
The users home must be preserved. I have got separated partitions for /
and /home.

 My questions are :
1) Mandrake created many others users fax, ftp, httpd, samba, ... How
must I handle these for best compatibility with Debian ?
2) The default configuration files (.csh,...) in the users home will
certainly be different from Mandrake. Must I remove them for maximum
compatibility ? (and how will the debian installation process react with
the allready created home directory ?)


Thx

--
Anthony




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From: "Rake@Q3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.2 and 'all blowed up' on e2fsck check of /dev/hda1
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:52:56 GMT

Thanks All,
  I'm using RPM's.  So I'm going to remove the gcc 2.96 package tonight, and
install the 2.95, recompile the kernel and see what happens.
I don't know what to do about the e2fsprogs, for right now, I'll leave it
alone and save it for the next step.  Thanks, and standby for further
adventures.
Dylan sends

"Rasmus B�g Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
dk...
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Pavan wrote:
>
> > > > I found it was the broken version of gcc on
> > RedHat 7.0 - run a decent
> > > > stable one (gcc 2.95.2) - it solved the
> > problem for me.
> > >
> > > Eh, forgot to mention, that you should recompile
> > e2fsprogs - and the
> > > kernel too, I recommend.
> > >
> >
> > I managed to compile the 2.4.2 kernel without
> > problems & its running smoothly ( on a RH7 with
> > all the updates ). I did not have to recompile
> > e2fsprogs.
>
> I had gcc 2.96-69 (the latest update I think) installed and compiled
> e2fsprogs 1.19. It gave the described error.
>
> Then I compiled 1.18 - same error.
>
> Then I installed gcc 2.95.2 and recompiled e2fsprogs 1.19 - no
> problems...
>
> gcc 2.96 is in beta and does not work with every program.
>
> My kernel did actually compile and run with gcc 2.96 - I just don't feel
> safe with that crappy compiler.
>
> Rasmus
>



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