Linux-Setup Digest #778, Volume #20               Wed, 7 Mar 01 12:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: RAM Requirements for VMWare (Joris Roefs)
  Re: Creating bootable disk 1.44 under win2k for slackware 
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: Lost my Linux partition - now what? ("George Adams")
  Re: RAM Requirements for VMWare (Michael Perry)
  Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles (Angry Bob)
  Re: Should I install rh6.2 or 7.0??? (John Beardmore)
  How to find what's in my Kernel ? (John Beardmore)
  Netconf question (Andrew Krieg)
  Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ? (Julian Midgley)
  linux supports 6discs CD ROM drive? ("david")
  RAM not seen (Ninja X)
  xinetd.d problem... (Peter Gregson)
  Re: Creating bootable disk 1.44 under win2k for slackware ("Marcin")
  Re: linux supports 6discs CD ROM drive? (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: /mnt/CDROM is busy. cannot umount (Afonso Sam)
  Re: 1280x1024 resolution with Geforce2 MX card (Hun)
  Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7 (Steve Weiss)
  major ext2 goof (Alexander Eagle)
  Re: rhost and trusted user (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Should I install rh6.2 or 7.0??? (Mark Taylor)

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From: Joris Roefs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAM Requirements for VMWare
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:37:14 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] uttered:

> I've been looking at a new system with 256Mb of RAM and a 1200MHz
> Athlon.  The vendor recommended VMWare over dual booting.
> 
> Since some of the programs that I run like WPOffice are memory intensive
> or like TheSky (an astronomical planetarium program) are computation
> intensive, I was wondering what kind of resources I would need to run
> them comfortably under VMWare.  Or is dual boot still the better way to
> go for now?

That depends.
VMWare isn't yet fully compatible with all hardware (SCSI for example isn't 
fully functional with VMWare) so that could become a problem for you.
But what are you trying to do? Windows with Linux in VMWare or the other 
way around?

VMWare does consume much of your systemresources but this doesn't always 
have to be a problem. I'm running VMWare(Win2K) under Linux (Redhat 7.0, 
kernel 2.4.2) on my 1.1 GhZ Athlon, 256 Mb RAM and it works fine for me. 
Except that I had to buy an IDE CDROM-drive because VMWare messed up with 
the SCSI-drives. But since I already planned to buy that drive, it was no 
extra problem for me.
Also you should watch it with ACPI-support. VMWare blows this as well.

So, it's up to you.
Dualboot solves the resourceproblem, but VMWare is MUCH cooler than a 
dualboot, don't you think!

- Joris




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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating bootable disk 1.44 under win2k for slackware
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:40:24 +0100

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Marcin wrote:

> > You would need to download the images you want to boot from and then
> > use rawrite.exe to copy the images.  More detailed instructions are
> > available at the Slackware site at
> > http://www.slackware.com/install/bootdisk.php
>
> rawrite doesn't work propoerly under win2k

Are you running rawrite as administrator (why did M$ choose such a
long word instead of plain and simple 'root'?)?

Rasmus


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From: "George Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Lost my Linux partition - now what?
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:47:06 -0500

> Get explore2fs.exe (zip) from net. It can access your linux partition.
> You can import your vmlinuz to your win98 partition. Get loadlin form
> your CD.
> Now start PC in dos mode using F8 key when starting windows. issue the
> command
> loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hdax
> where x is the partition number of / of your linux which also can be
> seen using explore2fs if you don't remember.
> This should get you in linux. Now do /sbin/lilo -v as root.
> This should rewrite lilo in boot sector.

Thanks to all who helped.  Some of the solutions I tried didn't seem to work
(perhaps because my linux partition was on hdb instead of hda?) but this one
did the trick just fine.  I appreciate your assistance!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: RAM Requirements for VMWare
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:49:29 -0000

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:37:14 +0100, Joris Roefs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] uttered:
>
>> I've been looking at a new system with 256Mb of RAM and a 1200MHz
>> Athlon.  The vendor recommended VMWare over dual booting.
>> 
>> Since some of the programs that I run like WPOffice are memory intensive
>> or like TheSky (an astronomical planetarium program) are computation
>> intensive, I was wondering what kind of resources I would need to run
>> them comfortably under VMWare.  Or is dual boot still the better way to
>> go for now?
>
>That depends.
>VMWare isn't yet fully compatible with all hardware (SCSI for example isn't 
>fully functional with VMWare) so that could become a problem for you.
>But what are you trying to do? Windows with Linux in VMWare or the other 
>way around?
>
>VMWare does consume much of your systemresources but this doesn't always 
>have to be a problem. I'm running VMWare(Win2K) under Linux (Redhat 7.0, 
>kernel 2.4.2) on my 1.1 GhZ Athlon, 256 Mb RAM and it works fine for me. 
>Except that I had to buy an IDE CDROM-drive because VMWare messed up with 
>the SCSI-drives. But since I already planned to buy that drive, it was no 
>extra problem for me.
>Also you should watch it with ACPI-support. VMWare blows this as well.
>
>So, it's up to you.
>Dualboot solves the resourceproblem, but VMWare is MUCH cooler than a 
>dualboot, don't you think!
>
>- Joris
>
>
>
Have you considered using win4lin?  It will run 98 or 95. Do you need
NT/W2k?  You can run the office apps in win4lin.  Im unsure about the
astronomical program; but you could stop by or drop their support folks an
email.  Win4lin is much easier on resources as a rule.  I have a win4lin
session with office 2000, visio, project on it.  My system has 128mb of
memory on a small dell laptop (Latitude Ls) running debian.

I also run VMware on a Dell Precision Workstation 610 with dual processors
and 1g of system memory.  This system is running redhat 6.2 now.  In full
screen, its kinda hard to tell its VMware.  


-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Please HELP: Netgear FA311 troubles
Date: 7 Mar 2001 14:59:00 GMT

What would you like to read?  [comp.os.linux.setup or *?]
This is a fenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scroll!  it says:
> the netgear fa311 does *not* use the tulip chipset. Check the docs. That is
> why it is such a pain to install correctly.

ahhhh, so it is.... my bad.... 

try this:

        http://sourceforge.net/projects/natsemi/

-- 
AngryBob                        Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
        I ust Mandrake Linux for the same reason I turn the light switch
        on and off 17 times before leaving the room.... If I don't my
        family will die.        -- I wish I remembered.

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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should I install rh6.2 or 7.0???
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:06 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark 
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>I wonder if it is really necessary to upgrade the distro as long as you
>keep the packages updated? Personally, I buy the Red Hat Updates CD once
>every 8 week and everything I have installed gets updated in a matter of
>minutes. It's the easiest upgrade I have ever done.

I got one of those CDs but I'm too stupid / too much of a newbie to know 
how to use it.

Once the CDs in the drive, is there a single magic command I can issue 
to update everything, or do I need to work through it rpm by rpm ?

More confusing still to a newbie such as myself is that not all the 
files on the disk seem to be of type .rpm !


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to find what's in my Kernel ?
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:02:21 +0000

I'm trying to get an ISDN card working on an alpha box.  I'm not having 
a whole lot of joy so I guess my first need is to check that the driver 
is compiled into the kernel.

Is there any way to interrogate the running kernel to find out what's 
been compiled into it ?  Or any log kept of what was compiled into it ?


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Krieg)
Subject: Netconf question
Date: 7 Mar 2001 09:11:41 -0600

When you run the tool netconf on Linux Redhat 6.2, what is the complete list
of files that are modified?
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Subject: Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Midgley)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:11:47 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Beardmore  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to get an ISDN card working on an alpha box.  I'm not having 
>a whole lot of joy so I guess my first need is to check that the driver 
>is compiled into the kernel.
>
>Is there any way to interrogate the running kernel to find out what's 
>been compiled into it ?  Or any log kept of what was compiled into it ?

If you compiled it yourself, have a look at the ".config" file in the
kernel source tree that you used to compile it (conventionally, this
will be in /usr/src/linux).

I'm not aware of any tools for extracting the config options from a
compiled kernel.

Julian


-- 
Julian Midgley
Principal Consultant                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zeus Technology Ltd                     http://www.zeus.com

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From: "david" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux supports 6discs CD ROM drive?
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:43:00 +0800

I have a Teac CD ROM drive which can load max 6 CDROMs.
Under Windows, it will create 6 virtual drives. However, in Linux, it just
recognize the first slot. Is Linux support this type of CDROM drive ?



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From: Ninja X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RAM not seen
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:50:07 GMT

Hi

My 128 Mo RAM are not seen by Mandrake 7.2, only 64

What can I do ?

Thx


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From: Peter Gregson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xinetd.d problem...
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:01:21 -0400


I'm running RedHat 7.0 and have a pronblem that either the xinetd.conf
file is not being accessed or the files in xinetd.d are not being read
or used properly.  The symptom is that neither telnetd nor wu-ftpd is
being run.  The processes are not running and I cannot telnet or ftp
into the box from another.  I can access via ssh, however.  My
hosts.deny is empty.

Any help would be appreciated.

Peter Gregson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
Peter H. Gregson, Ph.D., P.Eng.
Chair, Design Innovation
Director, iDLab
Professor, Electrical & Computer Engineering
Faculty of Engineering, Dalhousie University
tel: 902-494-6050                e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FAX: 902-422-7535                web:    www.cviplab.dal.ca

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From: "Marcin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating bootable disk 1.44 under win2k for slackware
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:09:57 -0000

> > rawrite doesn't work propoerly under win2k
>
> Are you running rawrite as administrator (why did M$ choose such a
> long word instead of plain and simple 'root'?)?

yes, as administrator

i changed my admin. login to ^&* :))



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: linux supports 6discs CD ROM drive?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:22:27 GMT

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:43:00 +0800, "david" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I have a Teac CD ROM drive which can load max 6 CDROMs.
>Under Windows, it will create 6 virtual drives. However, in Linux, it just
>recognize the first slot. Is Linux support this type of CDROM drive ?

Yes, but full support isn't enabled in most distros. You'll have to
enable the SCSI MULTI LUN support in your kernel; this will likely
take a recompile of your kernel after you enable the
CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN option using config/menuconfig/xconfig

The MULTI LUN option assigns SCSI LUN values to each of the six
platters in your cdrom changer, making each platter a different SCSI
device. From that point, you'd access each platter through a different
/dev/scd* device.


Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Afonso Sam)
Subject: Re: /mnt/CDROM is busy. cannot umount
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:16:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:36:10 +0100, Rasmus B�g Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Find out what processes are using the CD (/sbin/fuser -v /mnt/cdrom) and
>end/terminate/kill them.
>
>Rasmus
>
/sbin/fuser... Yes! 
thank you very much.

Afonso Sam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hun)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: 1280x1024 resolution with Geforce2 MX card
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:38:35 GMT


I run 1600x12000 @70Hz. 
Monitor is LG Flatron 795FT Plus
Horizontal Freq. 30-96
Vertical Freq: 50-160

Graphic board: ASUS V7100 GeForce2 MX - 32

XFree86 4.0.2
NVIDIA_Kerel-0.96
NVIDIA_GLX-0.96

In my experienc, the resolution is depend on Monitor's Frequency range and the 
graphich board.
Before I use this graphic card, 1024x768 isn't good by the old graphic board. 



On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:10:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>   Has anybody been able to set 1280x1024 @ >70Hz vertical
>refresh rate with their Geforce2 MX graphics card on Linux? If
>so, I would be grateful for some help.
>
>I have managed 1024x768 @85Hz and also 1280x1024 but at a
>refresh rate of only 60Hz (which is quite hard on the eyes).
>
>I am running Redhat 7.0 with Xfree86 V4.0.2 with the Nvidia
>drivers
>
>   NVIDIA_Kernel-0.95
>   NVIDIA_GLX-0.95
>
>Graphics Card: NVIDIA Geforce2 MX - 32MB
>
>Monitor: Mitsubishi Diamondplus 73 (Diamondtron NF)
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>krishan
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
>
>
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From: Steve Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape6 crashes like crazy under RH7
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:51:59 -0500

John Thompson wrote:

> Paul Folbrecht wrote:
> 
> 
>> Mozilla is just a browser, correct?  I'm mainly looking for an email
>> reader.  
> 
> 
> Mozilla (at least the v0.8 2001021503 build) has the newsreader
> and mail components.  The browser seems a bit more stable than NS
> v6, the email is usable but I don't like the news reader.  There
> doesn't seem to be any straigtforward way of going to the next
> message.  The is no "Next" button or keypress in the article
> window, and while the main Newsgroups window has a "Next" button
> and keypress, these merely move the highlight bar to the next
> message without opening it in the article window. Maybe there's
> an easier way, but it does seem intuitive to me. 

Pressing the "n" key works for me...

-- 
"If you watch TV news, you know less about the world than if
you just drank gin straight from the bottle."  - Garrison Keillor


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From: Alexander Eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: major ext2 goof
Date: 7 Mar 2001 16:34:51 GMT

The problem:
After a KDE2 networking crash, I couldn't login and had to cold reboot. 
I was then greeted with a kernel panic - init not found. So I mounted 
the drive with a rescue disk and found that /dev/hda6 (/home) was empty 
and /dev/hda1 (root) was missing /etc among other directories. My other 
filesystem, /usr, was fine. (All of the filesystems were ext2.)
I fsck'ed (perhaps not wise), which made
lots of repairs to the damaged filesystems. After some more research, I
tried debugfs and found that there are no inodes allocated for the 
missing data. So now I am left with tactics like 
grep "[missing data]" /dev/hda6
for recovery.

Three questions:
1) Is there anything else I can do to recover the filesystems? At least 
having some metadata like filenames would help me get important stuff
off the partitions.

2) How can this sort of destruction happen after a simple crash? I know
ext2 is not journalling, so there's no guarantee of fixing a problem.
Maybe some high-level inodes were lost in the crash and the rest were
deleted when I fsck'ed? But it's pretty bad to lose two filesystems in
an unexceptional crash.

3) Are there 'better' filesystems in this respect? When I re-install
this machine, I'll think twice about using ext2. I mean, Windows crashes
every other hour, and you don't lose the whole filesystem...

Thanks!


-- 
_________________________________________
Alex Eagle

PGP public key: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~eagle/public.key

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:05:33 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rhost and trusted user

Matthias Studer wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I'm working with SuSE Linux 7.0 and would like to set some users as
> trusted users so they can 'su root' without root password. Under IRIX
> 6.5 (SGI) one can create a 'rhost' file and put the usernames in it.
> That's all.
>
> Under SuSE I did the same, but withour success. I still need the root
> password for 'su root'.
>
> TIA
>
> Matthew

Hello,

I would suggest using sudo for something like this.

apropos sudo

Shows all man pages on this topic on your machine, SuSE has normaly sudo
installed per default.

Michael Heiming



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Subject: Re: Should I install rh6.2 or 7.0???
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Taylor)
Date: 7 Mar 2001 10:58:58 -0600

John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.setup
>Subject: Re: Should I install rh6.2 or 7.0???
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:06 +0000
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>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark 
>Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>>I wonder if it is really necessary to upgrade the distro as long as you
>>keep the packages updated? Personally, I buy the Red Hat Updates CD
>>once every 8 week and everything I have installed gets updated in a
>>matter of minutes. It's the easiest upgrade I have ever done.
>
>I got one of those CDs but I'm too stupid / too much of a newbie to know
>how to use it.
>
>Once the CDs in the drive, is there a single magic command I can issue 
>to update everything, or do I need to work through it rpm by rpm ?
>
>More confusing still to a newbie such as myself is that not all the 
>files on the disk seem to be of type .rpm !
>
>
>Cheers, J/.

I put the CD in the drive, mounted the CD as user ROOT, and ran the 
install-update script.  It updated everthing. Even installed the updated 
RPM package prior to completing the upgrade. If I remember correctly, it..

Checked and updated RPM if necessary
Checked for installed packages
Allowed you to see the list
Wanted a confirmation to do the update
Checked dependencies
Updated 100+ packages in a matter of minutes

Simple, even for a newbie of 1 year like me.

Mark


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