Linux-Setup Digest #798, Volume #20 Sat, 10 Mar 01 20:13:16 EST
Contents:
Re: Multibooting... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Help, USB HD in 2.4.2 (dangerouse)
RealPlayer 8 refuses to install (shaughn b)
Re: DIsk Partition (Darin Johnson)
Re: Hotlanta ("Andrew Cartine")
mkinitrd - can't create image & locks up linux (Glenn)
Re: 2 usb devices - same type (David Efflandt)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (enkidu)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Grant Edwards)
Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Re: DIsk Partition (John Sage)
Re: A couple of questions on rlogin/rsh and date (David Efflandt)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Thomas)
Re: Adding WIN98R2 After Linux Install (David Efflandt)
Re: RealPlayer 8 refuses to install (John Sage)
Re: Need help with LILO, I think. ("cedric")
help: - clicks & pauses in sound (Matthew Ducie)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Multibooting...
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:52:03 +0100
In comp.os.linux.setup Wayne Howarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Due to the fact that I have a Linux boot partition installed on a cylinder >
> 1024 I am unable to boot into Linux with Lilo. I have since installed
That makes no difference. Add lba32 to lilo.conf (and remove linear).
If that doesn't work, complain about your bios or use loadlin or
maybe grub.
Peter
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From: dangerouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help, USB HD in 2.4.2
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:51:13 -0700
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How do I access my USB HD in 2.4.2? The mount -t usbdevfs none
/proc/bus/usb command works, but there are no scsi devices attached and
nothing like usbhd? in /dev. So, how do I get to it (using fdisk for
example)?
Thanks, Roger
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<tt>How do I access my USB HD in 2.4.2? The mount
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From: shaughn b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: RealPlayer 8 refuses to install
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:28:59 -0600
Hi... I'm trying to install/upgrade to Realplayer 8 from 5.0 which came
with the SuSe 7.0 distro. I am using a Toshiba 500CDT laptop with
120MHz P1, 48M RAM. I have downloaded the rpm from the Real site, but
no matter what install options I use, --install --upgrade --nodeps
--force, etc, I get the message as follows...
prompt > rpm -i rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm
package RealPlayer-8.0-1 is for a different architecture
prompt >
I don't get it. The website says it's for Linux.
Anybody know what's up?
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Subject: Re: DIsk Partition
From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:47:56 GMT
"Sri Panyam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> HI
>
> But isnt partition magic a windows tool? I dont have windows. I have
> ONLY linux.
If you have own another computer that has Windows on it, you can
install Partition Magic there and during installation create a "rescue
floppy" which boots and runs via DOS. Then the floppy can be used on
any system. The drawback is that you pay full price for Partition Magic,
yet use just a small bit of it.
(you could use a friend's Windows computer to make the disk, but
whether that is strictly legal or not...)
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Reply-To: "Andrew Cartine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Andrew Cartine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotlanta
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:57:28 GMT
Why doesn't he just by a Linksys router for a 100 bucks? It's easier.
"Harold A. Mackey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9888jt$h8k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Folks
> I need a linux man to set up a cable router for a friend in Atlanta GA.
> Anyone in the Atlanta area that wants to make a little cash. They will pay
> for a couple of hours of your time. It's legit.
>
> Thanks
> Harold Mackey
>
>
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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mkinitrd - can't create image & locks up linux
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:07:36 GMT
Hi,
I've had trouble with creating an image file for the lat couple of
kernel builds after say 2.4.0-test9. When I attempt to create one,
/sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.2.img 2.4.2., it is not completed, I
can't kill the process and can't shutdown. I do have a loop device and
have done nothing new in my kernel to cause this that I'm aware of.
>From my .config:
#
# Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
/sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.2.xx.img 2.2.xx
Any guidence?
Thanks,
Glenn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: 2 usb devices - same type
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:13:03 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 02:01:20 GMT, Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can I run 2 identical usb devices at the same time, independent of
>each other? Would I just rename the device drivers?
I am just getting into USB, but it assigns each device to the next
available device of that type, so it should work as long as suitable /dev
entries exist on your system.
/var/log/messages should give a clue which /dev to use to access the usb
device. For example if it identifies a cdrom or cd-rw as scsi0 or sr0,
then /dev/scd0 could be mounted as a cdrom or you could write to it as
/dev/sg0 (assuming proper kernel options or modules loaded). Don't
confuse the effective /dev with the usb device number which it uses to
address each usb device.
I don't have multiple usb devices, the best I can test is using scsi
emulation for my ide atapi drive (scsi0). When I attach my usb cd-wr,
usb-storage assigns it the next available scsi number.
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: TOSHIBA Model: DVD-ROM SD-C2202 Rev: 1021
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: Model: CD-R/RW RW8040A Rev: 1.13
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:07:17 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Withers wrote:
>
> If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is
> *&%^$ Netscape.
>
> I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0
> system (kernel 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.
>
> I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....
> Netscape craps out usually within 10-15 minutes of active
> use. What happens MOST often with Netscape 6.0 is that links
> cease to be active. Nothing reacts to a mouse click. It may
> as well have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I see
> about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh?
>
Funny. I have 4.7.5 on RH 7.0 and have had no problems.
However I've not tried NS6.0 under Linux since it doesn't
work for me under Win NT or Win 98. I'm waiting for 6.1
or whatever.
> I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera?
> Konqueror? Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera
> like 3 years ago.....
>
Opera is now free, I believe.
Cheers,
Cliff
[Wotcha up to these days, Steve?]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:29:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Withers wrote:
>If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape.
[...]
I gave up on Netscape and tried Opera 5 a couple months ago. I liked it so
much I bought two copies (though the free versions with the ads was
perfectly usable).
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I will SHAVE and
at buy JELL-O and bring my
visi.com MARRIAGE MANUAL!!
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:30:03 -0000
HateLinux wrote:
>
> Thirteen months ago I tried to set up a linux box, just
> something really simple, one of the most -sold monitors, one of the
> most-sold video cards, one of the most-sold sound cards, idem for
> modem, mouse, and cdrom, a keyboard that supports deadkeys. Hundreds
> of hours of reading through cryptic man pages, recompiling my kernel,
> downloading updates and patches, and I STILL HAVE NOT GOT A WORKING
> SYSTEM!!
> Someone even offered help, I sent him my system files, and (I
> suppose it was him) hacked into my computer, destroying a load of
> files in my microsoft partitions. I have never been hacked in 5 years
> under windows, it was quite a traumatic experience. But I have a
> simple backup program under windows, so nothing was lost.
> I have installed slackware 7.0, 3.2, 4.0
> redhat 4.1, 5.2, 6.2, 7.0
> mandrake 7.00, 7.02
> suse 6.3
> peanut linux
> corel 1 and 1.1
> Every one worked with some of my hardware, but none with all.
> I have now installed redhat 7.00
>
> What works:
> mouse(microsoft serial)
> hard disk(quantum 10Gb)
> soundblaster 64
> printer(Epson dot matrix)
>
> does NOT work
> video card (voodoo3dfx w/16Mb mem)
> modem (USR 2977 PCI NOT winmodem (dials, negotiates, sets up ppp but
> no internet connection)
>
> Frankly , although I have a reasonably inquisitive mind, I'm
> tired of reading man pages, HOWTOS, and trying things that do not
> work.
> So is anyone here willing to help me set up my box ? I'm just
> asking for something that win98 did in 20 minutes flat ... set up my
> OS and recognize my hardware. If anyone here thinks an OS that cannot
> do this is going to be anything more than a passing trend needs his
> head examined
>
> Obs ... maybe I'll even post under linux and change my name if it
> works ;)
>
> ...And still the battle rages on. Until recently it was a pretty much
Mac vs. Microsoft thing. Here comes the new guy Linux. I too have loaded
Linux. At first it was just my currious nature. I wanted to see what all
the hype was about. Now, however... I understand why people are happy to
make the switch. I am fortunate to work in a place where computer advice
is very easy to come by... in fact darn hard not to receive. One of the
guys in particular speaks Linux (very fluently). He has watched me with
some interest, as I have discovered (the hard way) the pit-falls and pay-
offs of converting to Linux. I am also fortunate enough to have several
computers in my home. I must admit that one of them is still running on
Microsoft. the others are guinnea pigs for various releases of Linux...
including the latest Red Hat stuff.
One of the first lessons that I have learned is that Microsoft DOES NOT
like to share a hard drive with anything other than another microsoft
product. Upon setup of the Linux software... there is even a prompt that
tells you this. Something to the effect of "there is a speed penalty for
using a non Linux native hard drive format" ie. FAT 16 from Microsoft. I
ignored the warning and installed anyway. The results were not
encouraging. Linux started and ran VERY SLOWLY... but the eyepoping
graphics and the appearance of the Gnome workstation were enough to
convince me to format the hard drive and make the whole thing Linux
friendly. The results... a powerful workstation that except for a power
outage 2 months ago... has not needed re-booting for over 18 months. I
have had to re-boot the Microsoft box 2 times today alone, for nothing
more than adjusting display properties and trying to play Half-Life.
If my wife would only allow it... the Microsoft machine would be history.
I think the only reason she keeps it around is because for some awful
(probably childish) reason she is more comfortable with it. Still she
uses the Linux machine too.
My advice to you is this...
Forget the VooDoo video card and the high end keyboard and all the frilly
stuff for now. Go to Ebay and buy an old Pentium machine... like a P133
with a 2 gig hard drive. Format it. Pull an old keyboard and 3 button
mouse out of the closet. Set up Linux on that machine first and see if
you like it. I agree that Linux is not for everybody. It can seem
frustrating at first. Remember that Linux was developed in the early 90's
and is only 10 years old. Remember how confusing the Microsoft stuff was
at first.. Or even DOS for that matter. Linux is in it's infancy, it's
still growing and with every release it gets better. The best part about
it is that so many more people have access to the code and are working the
bugs out collectively... in a few more years Microsoft will have a major
competitor that it won't be able to buy out (unless they wanna send every
man woman and child on the planet a check). Linux is truely the peoples
system. Compaq has seen this and is offering it as an option on their new
computers now too.
Just as AMD payed its dues to Intel in their first few years in the
Processor market. So too will Linux suffer under the hand of Microsoft.
Eventually it will lead to more reasonable pricing and better competition
among software developers.
Anyhoo... it's just my opinion. One guy using Linux a thousand or more
miles away from you. There are so many reasons why you may be having
problems and I am certainly not qualified to offer expert advice on how to
fix them. What I can tell you is this. I feel your pain. Hang in there
and hopefully someone will be able to chant the right spell to heal your
machine and make Linux work for you. It's worth the wait.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: John Sage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DIsk Partition
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:30:55 GMT
Sri:
Actually Partition Magic (at least 5.0, which I have..) comes with disks
that have DR-DOS on them, and you can boot from them and run Partition
Magic from within its own little world.
So you don't even need (MS)-DOS or window$
- John
--
John Sage
FinchHaven, Vashon Island, WA, USA
http://www.finchhaven.com/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And remember: it's spelled l-i-n-u-x, but it's pronounced "Linux"
Sri Panyam wrote:
> HI
>
> But isnt partition magic a windows tool? I dont have windows. I have
> ONLY linux.
>
> Sri
>
> John Sage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> Sri:
>>
>> I haven't had to do this on a e2fs filesystem, but I have used Partition
>> Magic on Window$/DOS partitions and it works great, allowing you to do
>> almost anything imaginable to your partitions withour losing any data.
>>
>> Supposedly Partition Magic now handle e2fs filesystems in the recent
>> versions.
>>
>> I don't believe fdisk or DiskDruid or such will get you where you want
>> to be.
>>
>> HTH..
>>
>> - John
>>
>> Sri Panyam wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have a 6 gig disk which has ONLY linux on it. Of couse its has2
>>> partitions. One for the actual linux and other for the swap space.
>>
> What I
>
>>> would like to do is to partition the non-swap partition into 2
>>
> partitions.
>
>>> Can I do this without loosing the information on the disk.
>>>
>>> Sri
>>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: A couple of questions on rlogin/rsh and date
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:31:32 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:19:39 +0000, M.C.Byng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We have several Linux machines (node1 to 5) networked together, with one
>(node1) also having access to an external network. When trying to remote
>login from node1 to any of node2 to node5, using either rlogin or rsh,
>there is often a considerable delay, of up to a couple of minutes.
>However when using telnet, the connection is instantaneous.
>
>Could anyone suggest what might be causing this ?
Either it might be attempting to use ident (ie, identd) or the box you are
connecting to cannot find a hostname for the connecting box. Although, I
would think that would slow up telnet and ftp also. But you might make
sure that there are no typos (like comma in place of dot) for IP and names
of your local boxes in /etc/hosts or local DNS.
>Secondly, how can I synchronise the clocks of several linux machines ?
The xntp package. The clients probably just need ntpdate from that
package (that is all I use since my clocks are accurate). To sync them
all together you could run xntpd on the internet connected box.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:33:25 +0100
Grant Edwards wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Withers wrote:
>
>>If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape.
> [...]
>
> I gave up on Netscape and tried Opera 5 a couple months ago. I liked it
> so much I bought two copies (though the free versions with the ads was
> perfectly usable).
>
opera should be open source
i tried it as well, but got probs with java/javascript and ssl
switched back to ns
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Adding WIN98R2 After Linux Install
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:40:11 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I thought someone recently said in passing that it was possible to add
>WIN98 after installing Linux. Did I get that right?
>
>How do you do it without WIN trashing the MBR and Linux?
>
>Do you then have to use something like System Commander to get a dual
>boot capability?
>
>Thanks.
If you don't want to worrry about Windows stepping on the MBR, it is best
to have a primary /boot partition to put LILO on. Then just set the /boot
partition as active boot partition (Windows or Linux fdisk).
But if you cannot do that, just make sure that you have a working boot
floppy for Linux. If your distro did not make one for your, I believe
there is a HOWTO for that.
A simple way is to 'cp /boot/vmlinuz /dev/fd0' to a perfectly DOS
formatted floppy (no bad sectors). But if you did not compile that kernel
on that system, you would need to use 'rdev' program to tell the floppy
which partition is /
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: John Sage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer 8 refuses to install
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:00:42 GMT
Shaughn:
Linux is linux is..
..but what compiler do you have on?
shaughn b wrote:
> Hi... I'm trying to install/upgrade to Realplayer 8 from 5.0 which came
> with the SuSe 7.0 distro. I am using a Toshiba 500CDT laptop with
> 120MHz P1, 48M RAM. I have downloaded the rpm from the Real site, but
> no matter what install options I use, --install --upgrade --nodeps
> --force, etc, I get the message as follows...
>
> prompt > rpm -i rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm
Do you have ^^^^^ glibc2 (a.k.a. libc6)
> package RealPlayer-8.0-1 is for a different architecture
> prompt >
>
> I don't get it. The website says it's for Linux.
>
> Anybody know what's up?
- John
--
John Sage
FinchHaven, Vashon Island, WA, USA
http://www.finchhaven.com/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And remember: it's spelled l-i-n-u-x, but it's pronounced "Linux"
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From: "cedric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with LILO, I think.
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:02:09 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Sage"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for replying John.
I live in Amboy, WA, south of you I think.
>
> What were you doing when all this started?
I added a 40g HD and wanted it as /dev/hda.
Moved other HD's to do this while keeping their data
intact.
Installed RH6.2 on /dev/hda and it all started at first boot up.
> Are you able to get it booted at all, then? In single-user
> mode, or what?
>
I can boot off a boot floppy as single user.
>> Does this 'x and o' have anything to with this '1024'
>> thing? I have no idea what this '1024' thing is.
>
> I doubt it.
>
> The "1024 thing" is often when you get "LI " and a blank
> stare because you're trying to boot from a harddisk
> cylinder > 1024...
I do not get 'LI..." All I get is a continuous scrolling
of x and o.
>
> It kinda sounds like you (or something..) caused a
> typographic error in /etc/lilo.conf
Here is my /etc/lilo.conf:
boot = /dev/hda
compact
delay = 5
vga = normal
root = current
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = linux
>
> - John
> --
> John Sage FinchHaven, Vashon Island, WA, USA
> http://www.finchhaven.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> And remember: it's spelled l-i-n-u-x, but it's pronounced
> "Linux"
>
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From: Matthew Ducie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help: - clicks & pauses in sound
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:14:47 +0000
any help on this problem would be greatly appreciated.. -
I have just installed Mandrake 7.2 and I am having trouble playing back
MP3 files.. I get clicks and pauses in the sound..
I have oss soundon installed and if you read their documentation they
actually mention the problem but point the finger back at the mp3
players as being at fault..
I have seen overrun messages such as - "OSS warning: Application caused
too much recording overrun errors on audio device "
here is the output of cat /dev/sndstat
Options: SBLIVE
Build: 2.2.18
Card config:
Sound Blaster Live at 0xd800 irq 5
Audio devices:
0: SB Live port 1 (DUPLEX)
1: SB Live port 2 (output only)
2: SB Live port 3 (output only)
3: SB Live port 4 (output only)
4: SB Live port 5 (output only)
5: SB Live port 6 (output only)
6: SB Live port 7 (output only)
7: SB Live port 8 (output only)
Synth devices:
Midi devices:
0: SB Live external MIDI
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
0: SB Live (STAC9721)
Thanks
Matt Ducie
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