Linux-Setup Digest #801, Volume #20              Sun, 11 Mar 01 01:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Jim Gorman)
  kernel 2.4.* and pppd-2.4.0* (Richard Ng)
  Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Jim Gorman)
  Re: RealPlayer 8 refuses to install (Jim Gorman)
  Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! ("Robert L. Cochran Jr.")
  Re: mounting a FreeBSD Partition? (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ? (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Linux and Windoze GDI printers?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Jim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:17:06 GMT

I found the best solution was to upgrade memory from 64M to 128M.  This =

helped eliminate about half of the failures.  Opera doesn't do Java so=20
its out.  I've tried Star Office 5.2 and although the browser is nice, i=
t=20
doesn't support some stuff either, i.e., a bunch of plugins.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 3/10/01, 3:06:21 PM, Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=20
regarding A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!:


> If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape=
. 

> I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel=

> 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.

> I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....Netscape cra=
ps
> out usually within 10-15 minutes of active use. What happens MOST ofte=
n
> with Netscape 6.0 is that links cease to be active. Nothing reacts to =
a
> mouse click. It may aswell have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I se=
e
> about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh?

> I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera? Konqueror?
> Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera like 3 years ago.....

> MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(

> --
>  Regards,

>  Steve Withers
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Registered Linux user #24688
>  http://counter.li.org

>  "First, they ignore you. Then they
>  laugh at you. Then they fight you.
>  Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi

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From: Richard Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.ppp,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: kernel 2.4.* and pppd-2.4.0*
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:23:52 GMT

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Hi, I have problems to use pppd-2.4.0x in the kernel 2.4.x. I was using
the kernel 2.2.16 which came with RH7. Since it doesn't support usb zip
drive, I try to upgrade it to kernel 2.4.x. I had upgraded my original
rh7 (such as gcc-2.96.x, glibc-2.2.12, util-linux-2.10s, ...etc except
the kernel) before I started the installation of the kernel 2.4.x. I had
read the Documentation/Changes. I basically had a greater than or equal
to the versions of the software described in the document. I have tried
different versions of pppd-2.4.0x and kernel 2.4.x but they all give me
the same message:

pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP.  This could be because
the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not
included in the kernel configuration.  If PPP was included as a
module, try `/sbin/modprobe -v ppp'.  If that fails, check t

However, the drivers had been installed in the kernel and it was shown
to be loaded when linux was booted up! I attached the boot up message at
the end and I hope it will help!

I try to look into the pppd-2.4.0x source code. In the file sys-linux.c,
there is a subroutine ppp_available. The subroutine will return a 1 if
the ppp interface is available and 0 otherwise. It generates the above
error message if it return 0. However, there are two lines of codes in
that subroutine:

if (kernel_version >= KVERSION(2,3,13)){
        return 0;
     }

That means if the kernel version >= 2.3.13, I will get the error message
and the program exit. I was wondering why there are people who can run
pppd-2.4.0x under kernel-2.4.x! Is is impossible according to the source
code?

I tried to commented these two line, the program did run further. But I
face another problem. The following code in the same subroutine iis -1.
(Here s=4 was obtained before)

          ioctl(s, SIOCGIFFLAGS, (caddr_t) &ifr)

Hence, the socket can't be opened for interface. Is there anybody know
what the problem is?

I ended up commented the codes in main.c which call the subroutine
ppp_available. Of course I don't get the same error message again. In
fact, I found the modules ppp_generic and ppp_async were used by one
process, perhaps, pppd. BUT nothing is actually working when I installed
these drivers as loadable modules..

Is there any linux programmers who could answer my questions? I would
appreciate for any contructive inputs or comments. Thank you in advance.

Richard
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Linux version 2.4.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red 
Hat Linux 7.0)) #3 Sat Mar 10 22:55:57 EST 2001
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 @ 0000000000000000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000400 @ 000000000009fc00 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000010000 @ 00000000000f0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000007ee0000 @ 0000000000100000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000010000 @ 0000000007fe0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000008000 @ 0000000007ff0000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000008000 @ 0000000007ff8000 (ACPI NVS)
On node 0 totalpages: 32736
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 28640 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: 
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 449.240 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 894.56 BogoMIPS
Memory: 126200k/130944k available (1208k kernel code, 4356k reserved, 453k data, 204k 
init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0387f9ff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0387f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU serial number disabled.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.37 (20001109) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
DMI 2.1 present.
25 structures occupying 827 bytes.
DMI table at 0x000F8880.
BIOS Vendor: ACER
BIOS Version: V3.2 R02-C0    02 EN                    
BIOS Release: 02/10/1999
System Vendor: Acer            .
Product Name: ASPIRE8         .
Version 0000000000000000.
Serial Number 0000000000000000.
Board Vendor: Acer            .
Board Name: V66M            .
Board Version: -1M             .
Asset Tag: 0000000000000000.
IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.08 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Starting kswapd v1.8
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
block: queued sectors max/low 83821kB/27940kB, 256 slots per queue
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0x84c0-0x84c7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0x84c8-0x84cf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM15, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 90845D4, ATA DISK drive
hdd: HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-2500, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 29336832 sectors (15020 MB) w/1900KiB Cache, CHS=1826/255/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: 16514064 sectors (8455 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63, UDMA(33)
hdd: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 >
 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 hdb8 >
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
Loading I2O Core - (c) Copyright 1999 Red Hat Software
I2O configuration manager v 0.04.
  (C) Copyright 1999 Red Hat Software
Serial driver version 5.02 (2000-08-09) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ 
SERIAL_PCI enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
PPP generic driver version 2.4.1
PPP Deflate Compression module registered
PPP BSD Compression module registered
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 94M
agpgart: Detected Intel 440BX chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe0000000
[drm] AGP 0.99 on Intel 440BX @ 0xe0000000 64MB
[drm] Initialized r128 2.1.2 20001215 on minor 63
[drm] AGP 0.99 on Intel 440BX @ 0xe0000000 64MB
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.0.0 20010105 on minor 62
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
request_module[scsi_hostadapter]: Root fs not mounted
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:07.2
uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x8480, IRQ 10
uhci.c: detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb.c: registered new driver hid
usb.c: registered new driver audio
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 204k freed
uhci.c: root-hub INT complete: port1: 93 port2: 80 data: 2
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 4 ports detected
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1/2, assigned device number 3
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
  Vendor: IOMEGA    Model: ZIP 100           Rev: 44.W
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sda: 196608 512-byte hdwr sectors (101 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
 sda: sda4
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 3
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1/3, assigned device number 4
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 3 ports detected
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1/3/1, assigned device number 5
event0: Event device for input0
keybdev.c: Adding keyboard: input0
input0: USB HID v1.00 Keyboard [API API USB KB HUB] on usb1:5.0
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1/3/2, assigned device number 6
event1: Event device for input1
keybdev.c: Adding keyboard: input1
input1: USB HID v1.00 Device [049c:0002] on usb1:6.0
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1/3/3, assigned device number 7
event2: Event device for input2
mouse0: PS/2 mouse device for input2
input2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB Mouse] on usb1:7.0
Adding Swap: 72252k swap-space (priority -1)
solo1: version v0.16 time 23:08:45 Mar 10 2001
PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 00:0b.0
solo1: joystick port at 0x8441
solo1: ddma base address: 0x80c0
keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,64)

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From: Jim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:31:03 GMT

I found the best solution was to upgrade memory from 64M to 128M.  This =

helped eliminate about half of the failures.  Opera doesn't do Java so=20
its out.  I've tried Star Office 5.2 and although the browser is nice, i=
t=20
doesn't support some stuff either, i.e., a bunch of plugins.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 3/10/01, 3:06:21 PM, Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=20
regarding A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!:


> If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape=
. 

> I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel=

> 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.

> I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....Netscape cra=
ps
> out usually within 10-15 minutes of active use. What happens MOST ofte=
n
> with Netscape 6.0 is that links cease to be active. Nothing reacts to =
a
> mouse click. It may aswell have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I se=
e
> about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh?

> I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera? Konqueror?
> Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera like 3 years ago.....

> MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(

> --
>  Regards,

>  Steve Withers
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Registered Linux user #24688
>  http://counter.li.org

>  "First, they ignore you. Then they
>  laugh at you. Then they fight you.
>  Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi

------------------------------

From: Jim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer 8 refuses to install
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:31:08 GMT

I found this on the 'realplayer' site somewhere and it does work.

You must use a "--ignorearch" option.  I assume this means ignore the=20
architecture of the system. The two dashes are required.

Jim

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 3/10/01, 5:28:59 PM, shaughn b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=20
regarding RealPlayer 8 refuses to install:


> Hi...  I'm trying to install/upgrade to Realplayer 8 from 5.0 which ca=
me
> with the SuSe 7.0 distro.  I am using a Toshiba 500CDT laptop with
> 120MHz P1, 48M RAM.  I have downloaded the rpm from the Real site, but=

> no matter what install options I use, --install --upgrade --nodeps
> --force, etc, I get the message as follows...

> prompt > rpm -i rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm
> package RealPlayer-8.0-1 is for a different architecture
> prompt >

> I don't get it.  The website says it's for Linux.

> Anybody know what's up?

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From: "Robert L. Cochran Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:46:10 -0500

I have to agree, Netscape 4.x (on any platform) is a badly broken
product. In Linux, you can't really get the beautiful page renderings
that Internet Explorer does. There is no browser anywhere near as good
as Internet Explorer. My nonprogrammer wife comments that Netscape just
doesn't render pages nicely and she prefers Microsoft Windows 9x simply
because she gets Internet Explorer. 

Soon, people will talk about a "Netscape job" to mean "poor quality
work". 

-- 

Bob Cochran
I am a student of Linux, Java, database and web development.

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Steve Withers wrote:
> 
> If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape.
> 
> I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel
> 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.
> 
> I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....Netscape craps
> out usually within 10-15 minutes of active use. What happens MOST often
> with Netscape 6.0 is that links cease to be active. Nothing reacts to a
> mouse click. It may aswell have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I see
> about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh?
> 
> I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera? Konqueror?
> Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera like 3 years ago.....
> 
> MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(
> 
> --
>  Regards,
> 
>  Steve Withers
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Registered Linux user #24688
>  http://counter.li.org
> 
>  "First, they ignore you. Then they
>  laugh at you. Then they fight you.
>  Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi

------------------------------

Subject: Re: mounting a FreeBSD Partition?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:50:19 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith) writes:

> FreeBSD uses a primary partition that it then carves into smaller
> virtual partitions (FreeBSD uses the term "slices"), similar to logical
> partitions in the standard PC partitioning scheme. As a result, to use

Err, isn't it the opposite? ;-) What in the Linux and Windows world we
call partition, they call it a slice, and inside a slice, they have
numerous partitions?

> any of these partitions, you need FreeBSD partition support in your
> kernel, and you must then mount the partition using a partition number
> of 5 or above. WARNING: If you don't currently have FreeBSD partition
> support, and if the FreeBSD partition has a lower number than your
> current extended partition (assuming you've got one), then adding
> FreeBSD partition support will change all your extended partition
> numbers. Depending upon how Linux is installed, this could render Linux
> unbootable unless/until you change the entries in /etc/fstab.

Or you can mkfs on a wrong partition as I have experienced...

Vilmos

------------------------------

Subject: Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:52:59 GMT

"*harmonix*" <# rm -fr / *@ death is defeat.org> writes:

>> I'm trying to get an ISDN card working on an alpha box.  I'm not having
>> a whole lot of joy so I guess my first need is to check that the driver
>> is compiled into the kernel.
>>
>> Is there any way to interrogate the running kernel to find out what's
>> been compiled into it ?  Or any log kept of what was compiled into it ?
> 
> would grepping the /proc pseudo filesystem help ?

Actually I was just thinking about it: Is it hard to implement something
like a /proc/sys/config which would have the relevant lines from .config?

Vilmos

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux and Windoze GDI printers??
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:03:11 GMT

andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,

> Linux newbie alert with a printing problem :-(

> I have a Canon LBP-800 laser printer that is listed as non-compatible
> with Linux because Canon in their wisdom will not release drivers for
> it, or release the protocol used so others can write drivers.

If I remember correctly about this situation, the problem is that the 
printer (this and others) do not have the processing power to actually
render the page, so that is offloaded to the (Windows) PC, and a byte-
stream sent to the printer.  A cheap way to make a printer....

> So, I've been thinking about how to make this work and I'm wondering if
> the idea I have come up with is even feasible.  Basically, the idea is
> to connect the printer to a second computer (a Windoze based laptop) and
> print over the network to it.  I'm guessing to do that I will still need
> a Linux driver, but is it possible to somehow send the print job to the
> Windoze print spool (maybe in PCL format, though I'm assuming the
> printer can deal with PCL) and utilize the Windoze driver for printing
> from the Windoze machine?  Is this even possible to do?  The laptop is
> running Win98SE and the desktop has Mandrake 7.2 with the 2.4 kernel
> installed and, I think, CUPS 1.1.4.

It *should* work.  What you will have to do is check to see what 
emulations that printer supports - ie. if it is PCL or what, and then
set up the printer as a shared windows printer.  On the linux side,
set the printer up to work as a networked connected printer via
SMB (you may need to have smbclient packages, or maybe the whole 
samba package set - I don't know) defined such that the printer is a
[insert_capable_emulation_here].  Ie. if the printer can emulate
a HP LJ4, tell your linux machine that you have a LJ4 connected via 
the network.

I may be way off mark on this one, but I imagine that it should still
work.  If you have two windows machines, this would be easy to 
test, in case you are wondering if there is an issue with sending
from the linux box to the windows one.  Again, tell the machine
where the printer is a remote printer that you have one of the 
printers that is supported as an emulated one...

Good luck!

Kris

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