Linux-Setup Digest #807, Volume #20 Sun, 11 Mar 01 22:13:08 EST
Contents:
2.4.2 missing mod; mkinitrd error (Darren and Marla Welson)
Re: Was That a virus? (Colin Watson)
cannot mount new SCSI cd-burner scd0 (Darren and Marla Welson)
Installing Apps? (Andrew McGillis)
Re: cannot mount new SCSI cd-burner scd0 (Bora Ugurlu)
Re: Installing Apps? (Bora Ugurlu)
Linux and Windows on same hardisk? (Deen)
Re: Help, USB HD in 2.4.2 (David Efflandt)
Re: 2.4.2 missing mod; mkinitrd error ("Gene Heskett")
Re: USB - External CD-Writer (David Efflandt)
Bootable backup CDs (Ed Ohsone)
Re: Autofs (ljb)
installing KDE2 on RedHat 7 based setup (Darin Johnson)
Re: Best Partitioning Practice ? ("Greg H.")
Re: Bootable backup CDs (Dances With Crows)
Re: Cisco and Syslog ("Freeland Chew")
Re: howto enlarge linux partition (John Thompson)
Re: DIsk Partition (John Thompson)
Re: Swap space (John Thompson)
Re: xinetd.d problem... (Alex)
TOUCH SCREEN COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE FOR SUSE 7.1 ("Robert L. Cochran Jr.")
Re: Linux and Windows on same hardisk? (Igor Barjaktarevic)
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From: Darren and Marla Welson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel
Subject: 2.4.2 missing mod; mkinitrd error
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:38:18 GMT
I have compiled 2.2.18 and 2.4.2 kernels with no problem, but when I
went to mkinitrd, I was told I was missing the module for my SCSI device
aic7xxx.o . I added this into the kernel, so I did not forget it. I
ended up copying the module from my 2.2.14 /lib/modules directory and
all is ok for 2.2.18. I did the same for 2.4.2, but when I mkinitrd I
now get the error of 'all loopback devices are in use' and it stops
there.
Does anyonw know what may be happening? Any fix?
Darren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Was That a virus?
Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:45:05 GMT
Bindou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am new to Linux . I just installed the redhat 7.0. installation ok. Login
>as root ok. When i tried to open pdf file by double clicking on in ..ALL
>files in my /root directory disappeared! this cancelled all cutomizations i
>made /re-made for root!It behaved a though it was the first time i logged in
>as root! Is this a kind of virus or should i have to update the rpm patches
>??
I guess you've found out now not to run unnecessary things as root.
Create an ordinary user account and work there, where you can't trash
your system by mistake.
Cheers,
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"This is the only networking technology
that earns frequent flyer miles." - RFC 2549
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From: Darren and Marla Welson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: cannot mount new SCSI cd-burner scd0
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:42:41 GMT
I have added a SCSI CD-R to my system, but I cannot mount it because the
device, /dev/scd0, has no module (?) and cannot be mounted. I am not
sure what else to do, since the OS is installed on a HD on the same SCSI
card--so I know it works. I do not know what else to try.
Darren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew McGillis)
Subject: Installing Apps?
Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:32:15 GMT
Okay, so I feel pretty stupid asking this... but How the heck do I install an
application?
I'm trying to install Licq on Corel Linux. I'm *trying* to follow the
instructions on the licq website...
This is not the first program I've had troubles installing,
I also had troubles with a cd-writing program.
I have no problem downloading the file (filename.tar.gz or whatever), and I
usually have no problem unzipping that file. What do I do from there? Which
file do I run? I keep trying 'em all, and nothing is really happening.
Sorry for so many questions, but help would be appreciated,
Andrew
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From: Bora Ugurlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: cannot mount new SCSI cd-burner scd0
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:49:34 +0100
Darren and Marla Welson wrote:
> I have added a SCSI CD-R to my system, but I cannot mount it because the
> device, /dev/scd0, has no module (?) and cannot be mounted. I am not
> sure what else to do, since the OS is installed on a HD on the same SCSI
> card--so I know it works. I do not know what else to try.
>
> Darren
>
>
You need the SCSI CDROM support in the kernel to use /dev/scdx devices.
Whereas, you can use sg0 instead od scd0 (or was it sr0?)
Check SCSI-howto's, it's the best..
Bora
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From: Bora Ugurlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Apps?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:21:05 +0100
Andrew McGillis wrote:
> Okay, so I feel pretty stupid asking this... but How the heck do I install
> an application?
>
> I'm trying to install Licq on Corel Linux. I'm *trying* to follow the
> instructions on the licq website...
>
> This is not the first program I've had troubles installing,
> I also had troubles with a cd-writing program.
>
> I have no problem downloading the file (filename.tar.gz or whatever), and
> I
> usually have no problem unzipping that file. What do I do from there?
> Which file do I run? I keep trying 'em all, and nothing is really
> happening.
>
> Sorry for so many questions, but help would be appreciated,
> Andrew
>
>
Licq is a tough program to compile for beginner.
But though, no fear..
Read the README and then INSTALL (less README and less INSTALL) files
carefully. They lead the way you to success.
The installation of a Linux app follows more or less the same procedure (as
every year)
as normal user:
1. run the 'configure' script in the installation directory. (Hint: if
'./configure' doesn't do anything, then try 'sh ./configure')
This script collects information about your system, and prepares for
compilation. When you have missing libraries or files that the software
needs, your journey will most probably end here. (It usually tells you what
is missing.)
'configure --help' gives you the possible options you can use with the
script.
2. type 'make'. This compiles the necessary files, and builds binaries.
If you can get through this step, too, you're more or less done..
now become root (because most probably, the install paths are write
protected for users):
3. make install
This installs (copies) the files you just compiled to the predefined
locations, sets file rights, registers libraries, if it applies..
After that, you should be able to run the aplication as a normal user.
If you still have questions, (you will have, believe me) write back in this
Newsgroup, someone will certainly help, or lead you to some documentation
that will help.
Good luck.
Bora Ugurlu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deen)
Subject: Linux and Windows on same hardisk?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:24:05 GMT
I'd like to install Linux on a different partition on my harddisk, so
I can still run Windows 98 SE, but also be able to fool around with
Linux. Is this possible without messing up my system, and how do I get
about 'seperating' the harddisk for this setup? Anyone with experience
who can give me some advice? Thanks so much!
Volkert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Help, USB HD in 2.4.2
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:29:47 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, dangerouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please post in plain/text, not html.
>How do I access my USB HD in 2.4.2? The mount -t usbdevfs none
>/proc/bus/usb command works, but there are no scsi devices attached and
>nothing like usbhd? in /dev. So, how do I get to it (using fdisk for
>example)?
You need SCSI support, probably at least scsi_mod and sd_mod modules
loaded if you don't have SCSI and SCSI disk support compiled into the
kernel.
Put the following in your /etc/fstab:
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0
Load the usb-storage module and then check dmesg or /var/log/messages. If
you have no other scsi devices, it will likely end up /dev/sda, so the
first partition would be /dev/sda1 and you would mount that somewhere
useful (likely -t vfat if formatted in Windows). Or 'fdisk /dev/sda' to
check or create partitions on it.
For more info see http://www.linux-usb.org/
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Date: 11 Mar 2001 18:55:56 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4.2 missing mod; mkinitrd error
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Darren and;
DaM> I have compiled 2.2.18 and 2.4.2 kernels with no problem, but
DaM> when I went to mkinitrd, I was told I was missing the module for
DaM> my SCSI device aic7xxx.o . I added this into the kernel, so I
DaM> did not forget it. I ended up copying the module from my 2.2.14
DaM> /lib/modules directory and all is ok for 2.2.18. I did the same
DaM> for 2.4.2, but when I mkinitrd I now get the error of 'all
DaM> loopback devices are in use' and it stops there.
DaM> Does anyonw know what may be happening? Any fix?
Probably th wrong modutils, you *did* read and heed the changes
required as documented in linux/Documentation/Changes didn't you?
Cheers, Gene
--
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email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: USB - External CD-Writer
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:54:24 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11 Mar 2001 19:55:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>installed Mandrake 7.2 , got nearly everything running but my
>USB external CD-Writer.
>Could somebody probably help me ?
Check http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ to see if anyone has experience with
your device and also http://www.linux-usb.org/ for other general
info. Don't be discouraged if others have had trouble, usb is constantly
evolving.
For example others with similar drive to mine (same ID, different brand)
had not gotten it to work, but I at least got mine to work as cdrom.
Even if you do not have the same type of device, you may find
http://www.de-srv.com/linux/vst-cd.html helpful for getting it up and
running. Still working on figuring out how to write, but it is a start.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
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From: Ed Ohsone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Bootable backup CDs
Date: 12 Mar 2001 00:56:48 GMT
I would like to make backups of my hard drives on multiple CDs.
It seems there are some tools for linux, like cdrecord, but
I do not know if there exist tools which can create bootable CDs.
MS Windows world has some tools capable of this task.
Are there any in linux world?
Since my system is mutiboot with win95, linux6.1, freeBSD, Solarisx86, etc,
each of them taking about 2GB, ideal tool should be able to create bootable
CDs for all of the OSs.
I am not familiar with booting mechanism. So there may be some
special way of creating bootable CDs with cnventional tools like cdrecord.
I would appreciate any pointer/comment.
Thanks in advance.
============
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: Autofs
Date: 12 Mar 2001 01:50:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Greetings All
>I have a Mandrake 7.2 system and it uses Autofs to automatically mount
>and unmount drives. I have it working brilliantly but on shutdown I get
>the error message:
>
>hdc: The drive reports both 100663296 and 0 bytes as its capacity
>
>This message relates to the internal ZIP drive which is set up on hdc. A
>friend of mine has the same sort of problem with his parallel port ZIP
>drive, which reports an error of:
>
>scsi: disk i/o error dev 08:00 sector 0 unable to read part/table
>
>The drives work OK during operation but only seem to give this error on
>shutdown. Have we got something horribly wrong? Does anyone know how to
>set the ZIP drives up so that no error messages come up on shutdown?
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
Are you sure it's happening at shutdown? My internal ATAPI ZIP drive
reports that exact error ("drive reports both ...") when Linux starts;
more specifically when the ide-floppy module is loaded. It is harmless
and you can just ignore it.
The second error (scsi: ...) is different and looks like something is
trying to read the disk when the drive is empty. I assume the friend
didn't remove the disk without dismounting it (my Zip drive doesn't
allow that, as it locks the drive eject while mounted). But I don't
have any idea what else could cause that.
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Subject: installing KDE2 on RedHat 7 based setup
From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:45:44 GMT
How can I install KDE2 easily on a RedHat 7 based setup? There are a
lot of dependencies that are tricky to work out. Ie, prerequisite
libraries; a few existing KDE packages required cause conflicts with
newer packages, but removing them breaks dependencies, etc. Gnorpm
isn't working well (behind a firewall, and I can't even set it's
preferences to look at local disk).
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From: "Greg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Partitioning Practice ?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:59:08 GMT
Steve Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could someone tell me the best way to format a new PC with a 30 GIG HD to be
> able to run Win 98 and Linux in a dual boot system ?
> I tried to install Linux into an Extended partition and it didn't like it.
Read the Partition HOWTO. www.linuxdoc.org is one place that has it.
In brief, I suggest using the first primary partition for Windows. You
can use either DOS fdisk or Linux fdisk, whichever is easier. Use the
rest for Linux. At minimum, you should have a swap partition and a root
("/") partition. You may need a /boot partition residing below the first
1024 cylinders if your system has this limitation in order to boot Linux.
I would suggest making /home a seperate partition, as well. This way, you
can upgrade your Linux distribution or change distributions while still
having the same user directories in /home. This can be very convenient,
though it's not a substitute for backing up.
Futher partitioning is a neverending argument, so read the HOWTO and
look through the postings in the various "setup" newsgroups and make
your own decision. Personally, if it's a general or casual use home
system, what I mentioned above will suit your needs just fine with
little to gain performance-wise from an elaborate partitioning scheme.
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Bootable backup CDs
Date: 12 Mar 2001 02:15:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12 Mar 2001 00:56:48 GMT, Ed Ohsone staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>I would like to make backups of my hard drives on multiple CDs.
>It seems there are some tools for linux, like cdrecord, but
>I do not know if there exist tools which can create bootable CDs.
>
>MS Windows world has some tools capable of this task.
>Are there any in linux world?
>Since my system is mutiboot with win95, linux6.1, freeBSD, Solarisx86, etc,
>each of them taking about 2GB, ideal tool should be able to create bootable
>CDs for all of the OSs.
>
>I am not familiar with booting mechanism. So there may be some
>special way of creating bootable CDs with cnventional tools like cdrecord.
>
>I would appreciate any pointer/comment.
cdrecord does not create a bootable CD; it just takes an ISO9660 image
and writes it to a CD. Check the man page for mkisofs, paying attention
to the -b and -c options. The basic idea is that you create a 1.4 or
2.8M floppy image, then specify the name of that image to mkisofs in the
-b option. I don't think you can specify more than one boot image
though. However, if you get the 2.8M image of Tom's RootBoot, you can
make a bootable CD that will boot into a Linux rescue system that has
enough stuff to recover any Linux installation. If you choose an
appropriate format for your backups, you can probably use Tom's to
restore Win9x, *BSD, and Solarisx86 installations as well.
Check freshmeat.net for CD-R backup tools. The 2.8M Tom's image is
available at http://www.toms.net/rb/ .
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: "Freeland Chew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Cisco and Syslog
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:26:59 -0500
Hello Thomas
To enable remote logging, syslogd must started with the -r option.
On a Redhat 6.0 box this is launched from the shell script
/etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog
There is a line in there that reads daemon syslog -m 0,
Change it to daemon syslog -r -m 0
The -m and 0 refer to time marks not being placed in /var/log/messages
Details are at man syslogd
Freeland Chew
Thomas Paine wrote in message <988317$jaq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I added the following lines to the syslog.conf, but nothing ends up in
>the cisco.log
>
># Syslogging for switches
>user.* /var/log/cisco.log
>
>I then pointed a switches logging host to this same box, but nothing ever
>shows up in the log file. I'm I doing something wrong?
>
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Thomas Paine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire
> Computing & Networking Services
>
>Famous Last Words
>"Did you hear thunder? Oh well hurry up and putt." (JD)
>
>
>
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: howto enlarge linux partition
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:39:57 -0600
Bora Ugurlu wrote:
> > H Dziardziel wrote:
> >> Hi, are you saying it was able to increase the ext2 partition
> >> without having to recreate the file system by moving the data out
> >> first? Thanks for any info on this.
> John Thompson wrote:
>
> > Yes. Partition Magic has been able to do this with ext2
> > filesystems since v4; it is now at v6. I've used it to resize and
> > move ext2 partitions without any serious problems, but YMMV of
> Partition magic for Linux?
>
> Or do you do it under windoze?
Neither. Partition Magic includes bootable DR-DOS diskette
images to allow non-MS users to use the DOS version of Partition
Magic. About the only thing missing in the DOS version are the
Windows "wizards" to hold your hand during operations. I don't
count that as much of a drawback, though.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DIsk Partition
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:23:31 -0600
Sri Panyam wrote:
> Acutally I dont have partition magik either. Which is why i am looking
> for some free non-destructive disk partitioning tools .
Take a look at GNU "parted." It seems to be becoming quite
capable. Otherwise, the FIPS.EXE program that comes with most
linux distributions runs from DOS and can resize FAT16 and FAT32
filesystems.
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-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swap space
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:29:17 -0600
Brian wrote:
> With RAM getting cheaper, I now have more RAM than I had in hard drive
> space two years ago. The old formula, as I recall is 2X RAM in Swap space,
> no swap partition larger than 128M.
>
> Does that still hold true? Have 512 M RAM now, do I need 4 x 128M swap
> files? Seems a bit much.
Indeed. The old "RAM*2=swap space" heuristic was never anything
more than that; just a rule-of-thumb in setting up virtual
memory. I have 256MB RAM here and have seldom seen my swap usage
go over 10MB. Just watch your swap usage and set your swap space
accordingly, leaving some extra to accommodate unusual
circumstances. But with HD space also being so cheap, a single
128MB swap partition ought to be more than enough for you.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xinetd.d problem...
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:30:09 -0000
I am having a similar problem,
I have created a domain in Samba and authenticated a win98 user on the
domain, I can ping the linux box as expected, but I cannot telnet to it
from the win98 box.
It tries and then says connection lost!
Any ideas, I got swat to run by taking out the dependancy on localhost only
which was weird
Cheers
Alex
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Michael Heiming wrote:
>
> > Asuming it does the same as the inetd I know, why is it called xinetd,
are
> > you suposed
> > to configure it from some nifty GUI tool....(grin)?
>
> Well, the config format is _quite_ different. Instead of just having a
> single line in /etc/inetd.conf, you now have to either put some lines in
> /etc/xinetd.conf or dump a file in /etc/xinetd.d/.
>
> In fact services actually can be configured from ntsysv...
>
> Rasmus
>
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From: "Robert L. Cochran Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: TOUCH SCREEN COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE FOR SUSE 7.1
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:47:28 -0500
Is there any commercial Linux-based touch screen restaurant software
that will do the following
1. Accept order entries from multiple workstations for up to guest
tables and large dining parties/banquets
2. Prints guest checks for each table or dining party
3. Accept employee clock-ins and clock-outs for 40-50 employees
4. Maintain cash register and sales totals
5. Provide a variety of other functions, mostly related to payroll. For
example: tracking tips by server.
6. Works on Linux, either SuSE 7.1 or Red Hat
7. Allows remote access to payroll data -- perhaps with the ability to
transmit payroll data directly to a payroll management company
contracted to print payroll checks. Remote access may be accomplished
through a VPN.
8. Can be remotely supported by a restaurant employee and a technical
consultant hired for the purpose
9. Can be evaluated on a trial basis for at least 60 days by at least
3-4 different people in different locations.
10. Can accept the sales and employee data maintained by a certain
Windows-based touch screen restaurant software system (R/Power) and
easily convert it to the new format as and if needed
11.Can be installed and running by the next morning, in time for
breakfast.
Is such an application out there? I'd appreciate being pointed in the
right direction. Please feel free to email me privately if you wish.
Thanks!
Bob Cochran
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Igor Barjaktarevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows on same hardisk?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:14:25 +0100
> I'd like to install Linux on a different partition on my harddisk, so
> I can still run Windows 98 SE, but also be able to fool around with
> Linux. Is this possible without messing up my system, and how do I get
> about 'seperating' the harddisk for this setup? Anyone with experience
> who can give me some advice? Thanks so much!
>
>From http://www.linuxdoc.org you can download some books that cover
this and many other topics in detail.
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