Linux-Setup Digest #812, Volume #20 Mon, 12 Mar 01 17:13:13 EST
Contents:
processes between [] ("Ed Bras")
RE: X setup for Tatung 640x480 ("W. Stannus")
Re: processes between [] (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Linux/Win98/Win2k triple boot ("John Moore")
Re: Is it really worth it ? (John Thompson)
Re: win98 installation via dd (John Thompson)
Re: Linux and Windows on same hardisk? (John Thompson)
ttyS00 & ttyS0 (ken pile)
Re: help me with installing KDE 2.0 (WOOD DAVID M)
Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ? (Vilmos Soti)
koffice compilation error (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Sund)
Mandrake 7.2 on Intel VC820 ("Kevin Swanson")
Re: Looking for the program 'activate' (Rick Smith)
RedHat 6.2 can do IP forward as default ? ("Bill Zhao")
Re: Need help with LILO, I think. ("cedric")
Re: Is it really worth it ? ("CD & WL")
Re: mkinitrd - can't create image & locks up linux ("S. Umar")
Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ? (John Beardmore)
Help with dependencies (Darryl L. James)
LAN server + internet (Slackware 7.1, newbie) ("Pawel Grodzicki")
Linux from Scratch ("Scot Mc Pherson")
Re: Linux/Win98/Win2k triple boot ("Chris Divine")
Re: PDA with Linux?? (Jimbob)
Re: Squid cache size? (Michael Heiming)
Re: Is it really worth it ? ("Chris Divine")
Re: What is this RPM... in linux?? ("Chris Divine")
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From: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: processes between []
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:13:02 +0100
Reply-To: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hellu,
Can someone please tell what it means when a process is displayed between []
as output of "ps -ax" ?
Regards,
Ed Bras
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From: "W. Stannus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: X setup for Tatung 640x480
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:11:18 -0500
I posted a question a couple weeks ago on a monitor problem in X.
At a recent InstallFest at the University of Ottawa, a member of the
IEEE finally got it working by putting -HSync
-YSync at the end of the monitor properties line in
XF86Config. The solution was found by recreating the problem nder Win
98 using the video card software (ATI).
Thanks to him (unfortunately anonymous), and I hope this meght help out
some others to get Linux running on old hardware.
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: processes between []
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:25:04 +0100
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Ed Bras wrote:
> Can someone please tell what it means when a process is displayed between []
> as output of "ps -ax" ?
That means that the process commandline has been swapped out and is not
available for ps or top. They can oly find out, what the executable is
called; not the commandline.
Rasmus
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From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/Win98/Win2k triple boot
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:34:15 -0600
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98i14a$2162c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> John Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If I understand correctly you are using NT boot loader, then, you
> can use the same to boot linux (there is an How-To, but I don't
> remember the name). When you are installing, remember
> to *not* install LILO.
>
Yes, i'm using the NT os loader. I think for now i will just install LILO
on a Linux boot floppy and leave the os loader alone. Later, when i'm more
comfortable with Linux (i love to play around in the guts of an os and can't
wait to get it up & running) i may try to put LILO in the /boot partition
and put it in boot.ini - do you have to re-install Linux to do that, or can
you just reconfigure it?
By the way, does it make sense in Linux to install applications in a
different partition than the kernel - so you can do a clean install of Linux
without having to reinstall all the apps? I hate the way M$'s registry
makes this pointless in windows
TIA
John
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it really worth it ?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:50:50 -0600
CD & WL wrote:
> Well thanks Cedric.How many viruses does my Win box have? Zero.How many
> viruses has my Win box had? None. Windows is hackable-so what.I've seen more
> crashes/headaches in 3 days trying to get Linux set-up properly on my system
> than I have seen with Windoze in 6 months. I dont care if Linux is more
> difficult to hack-I need a functional system and what I am trying to
> determine is whether the time I will need to spend is worth the trouble.
> BTW-I finally got the sound drivers functioning- Now I compose this message
> from Windoze because I now lose my ethernet connection every 5 seconds after
> the sound drivers were installed. Don't get me wrong-I am NOT being
> sarcastic or nasty towards you with what I say in this comment.
> I am just really frustrated.I appreciate your reply but you didn't really
> answer my question.
If you're presently happy with Windows then there is really no
compelling reason to use linux. Your original message made it
sound like you were getting frustrated with Windows and looking
for a change. That's a good reason to look at linux, but there
is a learning curve involved, particularly if you have not had
any prior experience with Unix-type systems. Whether the effort
is worth it is something only you can determine. I can say that
my first experience with linux was somewhat frustrating, but
having stuck with it and begun to absorb the Unix philosophy I
feel it was worthwhile. My present linux machine has never
crashed in over two years, so if you're looking to avoid such
incidents it certainly is possible with linux.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: win98 installation via dd
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:56:36 -0600
Fran�ois Patte wrote:
> I have made a copy of a windows 98 installation on hda1 with dd, in
> order to change a previous installation of windows 98 on the same device
> which had get a bad virus.
>
> The result is that I can't boot windows with grub now.
>
> I can mount /dev/hda1 with linux, as usual and I can see and operate in
> the disk C: if I use a dos floppy disk.
>
> I made a new installation of grub, but till now I am unable to boot
> windows.
>
> Is there a solution?
Did you perhaps miss the boot record when you created the dd
image? Try booting from your DOS floppy and run "SYS C:" to
write a new boot record (this is the partition boot record, not
the MBR where grub lives). This assumes that your bootdisk has
the appropriate version of MS-DOS to run Win98. If not, check
out http://www.bootdisk.com to see if they have the right
bootdisk for you.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows on same hardisk?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:43:33 -0600
Deen wrote:
> I'd like to install Linux on a different partition on my harddisk, so
> I can still run Windows 98 SE, but also be able to fool around with
> Linux. Is this possible without messing up my system, and how do I get
> about 'seperating' the harddisk for this setup? Anyone with experience
> who can give me some advice? Thanks so much!
Most linux distributions come with the DOS utility FIPS.EXE which
can non-destructively resize your existing FAT16 or FAT32
partition to create free space for linux partitions
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: ken pile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ttyS00 & ttyS0
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:26:25 +0000
I can not get my system to recognise my modem. It has worked fine before
but
recently it refuses to detect. I am running SuSE 7.0 (2.2.16-SMP). I
suspect the problem
is since I flash upgraded my bios on the Mobo (Gigabyte GA6-BXD). The
reason
I suspect this is because I have noticed that when booting up I get the
message that
the kernel has detected ports ttyS00 & ttyS0 instead of just ttyS0. I am
running an
ADSL modem plugged into COM1 with COM2 disabled.
If I enable COM2 also in CMOS then the kernel detects ttyS00, ttyS0,
ttyS01 and
ttyS1. I have never seen this before, and so I suspect that this is why
my modem wont
detect ( modem works fine in windoze, all flavours ). I have done a
clean install of SuSE
so I can be sure I have not set anything wrong.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ken
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From: WOOD DAVID M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help me with installing KDE 2.0
Date: 12 Mar 2001 19:19:32 GMT
chan kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having a problem with installing KDE2.0 on redhat linux 7.0
Don't do that....KDE 2.1 is out and is quite straightforward to install,
although you should follow the instructions carefully. If you compile
from source, keep an eye on the KDE bugs website for a small number of easy-to-
fix bugs.
--
David M. Wood
Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; NeXTMail welcome
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Subject: Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:34:16 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Actually I was just thinking about it: Is it hard to implement something
>> like a /proc/sys/config which would have the relevant lines from .config?
>
> NO. It's been done many times, by many people. Alan Cox has always
> refused to let it near the released kernel on grounds of code bloat.
>
> You can find my version on freshmeat.net under "proconfig", as I
> recall.
Thanks Peter, this is exactly what I was thinking about. About the
code bloat. I think this should be much more part of the kernel then
a http server. It is also really useful if you take over a server with
custom kernel but the /usr/src/linux is missing.
Vilmos
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Sund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: koffice compilation error
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:40:55 +0100
checking for KDE... configure: error:
in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
So, check this please and use another prefix!
I have tried exclude KDEDIR=/opt/kde2, where /opt/kde2 is the kde2
installation dir and I have tried to use --prefix=/opt/kde2
Can anyone help me?
Mvh
�ystein Sund
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From: "Kevin Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 7.2 on Intel VC820
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:09:41 GMT
I recently switched back to the Intel Processor and Motherboard from Asus
and Amd. Completely Zeroed both hard drives and installed Win 98 on 40GB.
Trying to install Masndrake 7.2 on 20 GB. Install goes fine until reboot,
then system hangs at "stage 1_stage 2.
Current IDE configuration:
ide1 40GB
ide2 DVD
ide3 CDR\W
ide4 20GB
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin
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From: Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for the program 'activate'
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:50:33 -0600
Hi.
I need a way to boot to a selected partition from the command line. The Lilo menuing
works ok, but I need to select the partition to boot and to boot it from within a
program. Partitions to boot include DOS, WIN 9x, NT, 2k and linux.
Rick
Eric wrote:
> Rick Smith wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your response.
> >
> > I'm looking for a simple way to change the active partion and hide/unhide them
> > so that I can easily switch between Linux and DOS and Windoze on the same
> > machine. pqboot will do the job for DOS and Windoze and its real easy to operate
> > (customer requirement); just specify the partition number on the command line. I
>
> What is easier than plain choosing on boot?
> Setup lilo.conf correctly, and all the customer needs to do is choose the OS to
> boot.
>
> >
> > was hoping the 'activate' program was similar.
>
> LILO can do this for you, activate is just a tool to make a partition active, that
> other programs may refuse to activate (extended partitions eg.)
>
> >
> > My reference to the hidden bit is the low bit in the high nibble of the
> > partition type byte. I'll look into using fdisk.
>
> I expected this, but it's for windows only, linux really doesn't care
> about the partition ID it is installed on.
>
> Eric
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From: "Bill Zhao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.2 can do IP forward as default ?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:52:08 +0800
Some good guy can tell me if RH6.2 can IP forward on ethernet as default.
I have seen the content of /etc/sysconfig/network. it has the line say
" FORWARD_IPV4=YES " but I not sure this is the switsch to control the IP
foward function. Please clear me.
Thank in advance
Bill Zhao
2001.3.12
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From: "cedric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with LILO, I think.
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:59:28 +0800
Found out about 'linear' and 'compact' in 'man lilo.conf.'
Removed both from current /etc/lilo.conf.
/sbin/lilo -v gives me the following:
Reading boot sector from /dev/hda1
merging with /boot/boot.b
geo-comp-addr: cylinder number is too big (6251 > 1023)
Also, learned I had to log on as 'root' to get fdisk to
work. I was trying to get it to work from a terminal window
inside KDE.
fdisk says that large HD's may cause problems with LILO
because of the 1024 thing. When I installed, I used
whatever RH provides in its installation program which did
not say anything about large HD's and the LILO problem.
The question now is:
How do I solve the problem?
I read something about creating a /boot partition of a few
megabytes at the very beginning of /dev/hda. Is this possible
now that /dev/hda1 starts at 1?
cedric
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From: "CD & WL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it really worth it ?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:03:09 -0600
Thanks to all who responded to this post.All posts were very helpful and
were exactly the type of input I was looking for. I have decided that I will
continue the battle with Linux even though some of my hardware isn't fully
supported yet. I guess you don't learn anything if you don't experience any
problems. I am the "grease under my fingernails" type of person and have the
desire to learn as much as possible and ,at this point,have pretty much gone
as far learning-wise as I can go with Windoze.I like to know why things work
the way they do and how to find work-arounds for difficult situations.
I sat down with a book to learn html and learned how to write it instead of
the usual WYSIWYG because,again,I wasn't learning anything and wanted to
know how and why it worked. I appreciate the literature recommendations and
the opinions. I am unfamiliar with unix/linux except for what I have been
messing with the last couple of days and there is indeed a learning curve
for me having started with Win. Off to the bookstore to dig up some helpful
literature. Again, I appreciate your responses and also appreciate any
help/advice that you may offer in the future. Thanks. CD
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98i37n$204a2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> CD & WL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <ZAP>
> > Maybe I am just impatient but after dicking around with the sound
drivers,to
> > no avail,and looking forward to the same headaches with my other
> > components,I am about ready to stick with Windows.My question is simply:
> > Is it really worth the trouble ?
>
> Well, that's depend. If I understand correctly, you have some "strange"
> hardware that can be not completely supported by linux yet. If your
> needs are currently satisfied by Windows, stick with it.
> Maybe is better if you wait until your hardware is completely supported
> or you discover what the problem can be (sometimes is not so
> easy). If all you get from your effort of using linux is a big headache,
> then is not worth...
>
> Davide
>
>
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From: "S. Umar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mkinitrd - can't create image & locks up linux
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:01:57 -0600
The loop code is broken....same thing happened to me. At some point they
put
in the Jensen Axboe (?) fixes...... try 2.4.2 that may include the fixes
or add Alan Cox pathes to 2.4.2 (ac20) is the latest.
--
Prof. S. Umar
Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Vanderbilt University
Nashville, TN 37235
Tel : (615) 322-2459
Fax : (615) 343-7263
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://compsci.cas.vanderbilt.edu/~umar/resu.htm
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to find what's in my Kernel ?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:15:30 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vilmos Soti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> Actually I was just thinking about it: Is it hard to implement something
>>> like a /proc/sys/config which would have the relevant lines from .config?
>>
>> NO. It's been done many times, by many people. Alan Cox has always
>> refused to let it near the released kernel on grounds of code bloat.
>>
>> You can find my version on freshmeat.net under "proconfig", as I
>> recall.
>
>Thanks Peter, this is exactly what I was thinking about. About the
>code bloat. I think this should be much more part of the kernel then
>a http server. It is also really useful if you take over a server with
>custom kernel but the /usr/src/linux is missing.
And having some sort of API for applications to know what hardware there
is driver support for would seem like a very tidy development !
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darryl L. James)
Subject: Help with dependencies
Date: 12 Mar 2001 21:39:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am new to Linux and have been trying to install various pieces of
sotware (Redhat 6.2), but am running into many problems tracking down
dependencies. When installing apps using RPM, it lists the the files
that it needs but the catch is I don't know where to find those files.
I have looked in the distro cd, but cannot find the specific files
that it requires. How do you go about locating the files
(dependencies), if you don't know what or where the files are?
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
--
DJ
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From: "Pawel Grodzicki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: LAN server + internet (Slackware 7.1, newbie)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:10:57 +0100
Here is my problem:
I want to put up a lan server and connect it to the internet.
I have:
- router: DSLPipe DSL-HST-E , Lucent Techn. (www.lucent.com),
- IP: 62.148.92.226-230,
- netmask: 255.255.255.248,
- DNS: 195.114.161.2 (and three more),
- One PC with two network adapters.
- of course I have the network (hub + some computers) :-)
I just want to create a lan connected to the net.
What should I do? What services should I run? What about security?
How do I connect all that?
Router to the server and server to the hub? What next?
Any reply would be welcome :-)
Thanx, Paul
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From: "Scot Mc Pherson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux from Scratch
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:46:03 GMT
I am considering taking this avenue for some critical Linux systems I am
putting together. I have been to linuxfromscratch.org and it looks rather
interesting, but from a brief skimming it seems to lack some material. It
this website the best source of information regarding building your own
Linux system or is there a better reference, including books if necessary.
I am looking to build a few different systems, such as specialized server
environments, router/firewall environments, and workstation environments
that are lean, but COMPLETE.
Thanx for any direction,
--
Scot Mc Pherson
N27� 19' 56"
W82� 30' 39"
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From: "Chris Divine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/Win98/Win2k triple boot
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:34:49 -0800
"John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98hvva$1v477$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am *seriously* considering Linux, but havn't found any howto's that
answer
> my specific mulit-boot config.
>
> I currently have Win 98 SE in a primary partition (boot.ini, ntldr, etc
are
> there) and Win 2k in a logical partition in a dual boot configuration. I
> would like to install Linux (preferably Redhat, but whichever distribution
> involves the least hassle) so that one boot menu will access all systems.
>
> Is this possible without a major headache, or having to reinstall either
> windows system?
I have WIN98 on the first partition (10 GB) of a 40GB IDE drive and WIN2K on
the second partiton (30GB) of that drive. I installed a second IDE drive (10
GB) and installed RedHat 7 there. Now the first thing that pops up is LILO.
It has selections for kernel 2.2.16 and kernel 2.4.2, and a selection for
Windows. If I select Windows, it jumps to NTLDR and boot.ini on my C: drive
where I can select between WIN98 and WIN2K. No problems.
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From: Jimbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDA with Linux??
Date: 13 Mar 2001 08:45:31 +1100
Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12 Mar 2001 00:15:51 +1100, Jimbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <snippage>
>>
>>I am not that informed regarding ethernet cards and networks with linux. Is
>>it possible that some light could be shed on connecting the PDA? I dont really
>>understand why an ethernet card is necessary when windows doesnt require it. I
>>simply want to be able to transfer files to and from the device and my PC.
>>
>>I really dont want anything to do with windows so the less i use it the better.
>>
>>BTW. How is it that linux can be put onto the PDA? Is it a matter or rewriting the
>ROM? Or can you simply run it off a memory stick?
>>
>>Brett
>>--
>>****************************************************
>>* *
>>* "Sudden success in golf is like the sudden *
>>* acquisition of wealth. It is apt to unsettle *
>>* and deteriorate the character" *
>>* *
>>****************************************************
> See www.handhelds.org for a good discussion on how to put a variety of Linux
> distributions on a IPAQ. Try hooking up the device with a serial cradle to
> /dev/ttyS1 of your linux box and do a ppp session with the linux system.
> You may need a few odds and ends to do this. Like a ftp and telnet client
> on the pocketpc. I can hook up my ipaq to the serial port of my debian
> linux box, run a ppp script, and get a ppp session working. Then I get an
> assigned static IP address, etc.
> This information is also online.
> --
> Michael Perry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ------------------
Thanks heaps for your help. Much appreciated.
Brett
--
****************************************************
* *
* "Sudden success in golf is like the sudden *
* acquisition of wealth. It is apt to unsettle *
* and deteriorate the character" *
* *
****************************************************
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:14:15 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Squid cache size?
Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am going to setup a squid caching web proxy for around 200 users on a
> well used 2mbit line. How much caching area will be needed?
>
> Is 3Gb enough or should I go for a 45Gb disk?
>
> The server will be acting as a filtering firewall too.
>
> TIA
> Rasmus
Hello,
from my expirience, squid performance depends on the RAM settings in
squid.conf, the defaults are very low ~8 MB, if I remember right, just
be aware, that squid uses 3 x the memory you set in squid.conf (cache_mem).
But if you have enough, why not let squid use it.
If the 45 GB disc is not that slow, compared with the 3 GB, I would go for
the big one, just remember to check the cache size, from time to time, or
even better, write a small script that mails you the cache usage, periodicaly.
http://www.squid-cache.org/
Has a well written FAQ, if you didn't saw it.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "Chris Divine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it really worth it ?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:51:52 -0800
"CD & WL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:mpYq6.81$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey all. This is nothing more than asking for opinions.
<snip>
> Is it really worth the trouble ?
In a word, yes.
I have been working with Windows of all flavors for only about 10 years and
know it pretty well, but there was a time when I didn't. Now, I'm at that
same "newbie" point with Linux. I've just in the last 18 months or so
started playing with Linux (Red Hat). It can be extremely frustrating if you
want it to act just like Windows does "out of the box" until you get deeper
into how and why things behave the way they do. I look at it as a learning
opportunity. All talk of hacking and viruses as the primary reason for
switching is just an fringe benefit. The fact is, if you're like many
computer users, you're in it to learn. If all you want to do is send e-mail,
post to newsgroups, browse the web and play games, then yes, Windows will be
your best bet for as long as you want to continue to pay for new releases of
the OS and the applications.
I tend to subscribe to the notion that Linux will one day supplant Windows
as the primary desktop OS and I want to be ready. It won't happen tomorrow,
or next year, but five years from now, who can say?
I sometimes spend anywhere from a day to a week debugging why something
isn't behaving the way I think it should, and sometimes I just plain can't
make it work. But, I don't use my Linux system for anything "mission
critical" yet because it's not uncommon for me to blow it away and
reinstall. It's all just learning experiences for me. Looks good on the
resume when you can say you know Linux well and can use it for anything
Windows does (and often Linux does it better, faster and more stable).
Just don't take it so seriously. If you get frustrated too easily you'll
give up before you even begin to discover how incredible this free operating
system with free applications and a world of independent developers really
is.
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From: "Chris Divine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is this RPM... in linux??
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:00:39 -0800
""v.naga srinivas"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> HI,
> I am new to linux and using SuSE linux 6.3.
> I want to know about this RPM( redhat package manager)..
> 1. Is it similar thing like 'ar'?
> 2. How can get the files containing in a src rpm package( the
> synatax)..??
Look here:
http://www.rpm.org
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