Linux-Setup Digest #815, Volume #20 Tue, 13 Mar 01 00:13:05 EST
Contents:
Linux and large (>32GB) hard disk (Alan Morgan)
X Windows Crashes After Random Period (Darren O'Connor)
Kernelproblem ("bindou")
Newbie Setup Question ("148.156.9.91")
newbie Telnet question ("148.156.9.91")
ADSL or Cable with Linux?? (Ray)
Re: Goin Shoppin (Dances With Crows)
Samba and Domain Name Change (Tony Thompson)
PC Cases (was: Goin Shoppin) (The Nose Who Knows)
Re: ADSL or Cable with Linux?? (E J)
How to fine tune RH Firewall Config after setup? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux and large (>32GB) hard disk (E J)
Re: Linux from Scratch (Laurent Cortier)
Re: PC Cases (was: Goin Shoppin) (Greg Yantz)
Re: multibooting... ("Moshe Samuel")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Morgan)
Subject: Linux and large (>32GB) hard disk
Date: 13 Mar 2001 03:09:32 GMT
I've read the HOWTO on this, but it don't really answer my
question. Actually, I think I have a solution, I just want to
make sure that I'm on the right track.
My IBM IDE hard disk is 45GB. My BIOS only handles up to 33.8GB.
IBM has a solution - you tell the hard disk to lie to the BIOS and
then install a disk overlay (OnTrack disk manager) that reports the
correct size after the system boots up. The only problem is that
you have to boot from that hard disk in order for the overlay to
take effect. If you boot from another disk, or from the CD-ROM, no
dice.
I'm trying to install a new Slackware and the installation boots off
of the CD-ROM - so I don't see the full size of the disk.
My solution is to say "to heck with it" and create my partitions anyway,
putting /home last, and then installing normally. Then when I boot
up I can use fdisk to extend (actually, destroy and recreate) the last
partition, format it, and I'm good to go.
At least, that's my hope. The IBM documentation describes how to use
their software for Linux but it appears to be written for a different
version of their software and since it is step-by-step instead of
big-picture instructions it isn't clear to me what they are trying to
do.
To those who have done this sort of thing before, does my approach make
sense or is there some incredibly easy approach that I've missed?
Everything appears to work so far.
Alan
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:08:25 -0800
From: Darren O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X Windows Crashes After Random Period
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Hello,
I have just installed Redhat version 7.0, and am having a problem with X
Windows. I configured everything for X Windows during the install, and
it tested fine. When I run, using the startx command, X windows, it
works for a random amount of time, then crashes--my computer locks up
and the only way to restart is the power switch (as in the power supply
switch). Assuming something might be wrong with the monitor settings,
I've edited XConfig86, limiting the possible configurations to a single
one that matches what's in the manual for the monitor, which is a
ViewSonic GT775. Once I've started X Windows, I can even check the
monitor's horizontal and vertical refresh rates, and they match the
allowed and chosen settings.
The settings I've chosen also work in Windows 95, so I'm confident that
I've got at least the monitor set up right. Also, since they work in
Windows, I assume the settings should work with my video card. Perhaps
I have something else going on...such as a memory problem. It seems
strange that everything should look and work fine for a little while,
then crash... One more piece of information, regarding my memory: I
have 96 MB of RAM on my AMD K6, and have set up a 256 (ended up being
258 after Disk Druid allocated it) MB swap space on my hard drive. When
I run "free" from the Bash shell, I see that about 92 MB of my 96 MB of
RAM are allocated, even though I have a minimal number of processes
running.
Does anyone have any ideas? Are there any log files I can look at to
determine what is going wrong?
Thanks in advance,
-D
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From: "bindou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Kernelproblem
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:23:25 -0800
Hi all,
I have tried to recompile my (new) kernel 2.2.17.However, there is error
message that prevend me from completing the recompile:
signal.c:623:parse error before 'EXPORT_SYMTAB_not_defined'
signal.c:623:warning type defaults to 'int' in declaration of
signal.c:623:warning data definition has no type or storage cl
signal.c:624:parse error before 'EXPORT_SYMTAB_not_defined'
.
.
.
signal.c:636:......
anyone have any idea?
rgds
bindou
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From: "148.156.9.91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie Setup Question
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:33:33 GMT
I've been fruitlessly trying to get my Win 98 Celeron 366 w/ 128 MB RAM to
load a Red Hat
6.0 distribution of Linux (repackaged by a company called NetPC). The HD is
16 GB with a 2.0
GB C: partitition formatted with FAT16 for multibooting. I have 1 GB of free
space on an extended
partition available for Linux. I successfully boot to the Linux CD-rom, and
the installation wizard asks me to specify "new install", "update existing",
or "dual-boot". I've been choosing the Dual Boot option, and then the wizard
switches to a screen entitled "Find Current Installation". It then goes to
a screen informing my that I don't have any Linux partitions to update. It's
as if I've selected
the "update existing" option, but I swear that I've successfully chosen
"dual boot". I've used Partition
Magic to prepare a couple of ext2 partitions and a Linux swap partition, and
when I attempt
installation, the wizard asks me "which partition holds the root partition
of my installation". It is able to see the Linux partitions made thru
Partition Magic, but obviously can't find the root partition of my
non-existent previous Linux install. Again, I think that it's behaving as
though I chose the "update existing" option.
If it wasn't for the fact that I used this CD-rom to successfully
configure Linux on a laptop two
days ago, I would swear that it was a defective installation wizard. I chose
the same option (dual
boot), and it worked like a champ -- even found a lot of my hardware and
autoconfigured my
PCMCIA cards!
The only thing that I can offer that may be unstandard with the Win98 PC
is the fact that I used
Partition Magic to convert from FAT32 to FAT16 on the C: partition.
Are there any tricks out there that I might be able to use to get this
thing loaded? I'd sure like
to hear from anyone who might have an idea or two.
Thanks in advance
Jeff Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "148.156.9.91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie Telnet question
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:40:55 GMT
Installed first Linux system two days ago. The telnet daemon functions and
responds
to port 23 traffic from another host on the network and offers a
username/password
query.
Here's the stupid question: Where do I configure users and permissions for
the remote
telnet clients so that I can administer remotely? I've been unsuccessful in
locating any
information on this. Any help?
Thanks,
Jeff Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ADSL or Cable with Linux??
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:51:02 -0700
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I don't know how to set my shaw@home cable server to my Redhat 7.0.
also, compare to the ADSL, which one is easier to setup on Linux
(between Cable and ADSL)
Thanks
--
Regards,
Ray
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I don't know how to set my shaw@home cable server to my Redhat 7.0.
<br>also, compare to the ADSL, which one is easier to setup on Linux (between
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Regards,
Ray
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Goin Shoppin
Date: 13 Mar 2001 03:58:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:03:02 GMT, David staggered into the Black Sun and
said:
>olliecat wrote:
>> I would like to get a motherboard/processor that will allow me some
>> growing room. I don't want something that will become technically
>> obsolete in two years.
How 'bout a time machine? :-]
>> I heard that AMD might be a good choice here, processor wise anyway.
>> Not so sure about the motherboard. I have IDE drives now and haven't
>> had a problem but have been informed that for drives and other
>> peripherals SCSI is the way to go, which seems reasonable. I want a
>> nice video card (that plays nice with XFree86) and a nice sound card.
>> I like to play games. I really like the space savings of the newer
>> flat screen monitors but understand they might not have as good
>> resolution as the standard CRT. I want a nice cd burner, external
>> would be preferable, an internal DVD/CD player, as well as a floppy
>> drive. Oodles of (cheap but good) memory is important, and nice fast
>> hard drive(s) with as much room as possible. I would also like an
>> external tape drive to perform backups on. I want to try and do all
>> of this for under $2000.
Don't want much, do ya? Let's see what we can come up with. Remember
that you get what you pay for, and all these prices are from the
middle/low end, meaning the quality is that way too...
Abit KT-7 + Athlon T-Bird 850 $310
(will accept up to/beyond 1GHz)
Good Mid-tower case $ 80
Trinitron 17" display $300
Matrox G400 video card $ 80
Internal IDE DVD/CD $ 60
IBM IDE 7200RPM 75G hard drive $270
8x4x32 IDE CD-RW $100
(I do *NOT* recommend USB CD-RWs, based on the experiences of several
co-workers. Coaster factories, and too bloody expensive.)
256M PC133 DIMM $ 90
Creative SB Live $ 55
Floppy $ 20
Keyboard $ 30 (get a good one!)
Mouse $ 20 (or whatever)
Tape Drive $lots for a good one!
For a total of $1415 plus shipping plus tape drive. Prices only go up
from there. You will pay a premium for SCSI hardware, naturally. If
you get a tape drive, SCSI is the only way to go, so consider that. You
will not be able to back up your entire hard drive onto one tape; you
may wish to look into getting 2 hard drives and running in RAID-1.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Tony Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Samba and Domain Name Change
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:15:23 -0700
Hello -
I changed Unix root domain for a computer and Samba has quick working.
When I look in the log file, it is trying to do gethostbyname on the old
domain name. I've greped every file in /etc and can not find any
instance of the old domain name.
Does anyone have any idea what would cause this and what the cure is?
Please reply to my email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks in advance -
Tony Thompson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Nose Who Knows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: PC Cases (was: Goin Shoppin)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:28:36 GMT
On 13 Mar 2001 03:58:18 GMT, Dances With Crows wrote:
> Good Mid-tower case $ 80
The bane of my life in assembling computers seems to be a dearth of
decent PC cases. Who makes good ones? Who sells them? Where the heck
do people get them from?
Especially interested in information on where to get them from in
Melbourne, Australia.
--
\
`\
_o__) BIGNOSE
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL or Cable with Linux??
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:44:10 GMT
Is your network card set up properly?
# kernelcfg # set up your network card
# netcfg # set up your network configuration
Cable and ADSL are the same for setting up.
Ray wrote:
> I don't know how to set my shaw@home cable server to my Redhat 7.0.
> also, compare to the ADSL, which one is easier to setup on Linux
> (between Cable and ADSL)
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ray
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: How to fine tune RH Firewall Config after setup?
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:51:44 GMT
I recently installed RedHat fisher (7.0.90) During the install
there's an all purpose "firewall configuration" which gives you a
choice of settings: High (blocks all incoming) Medium (some) and None.
What exactly are these settings? (Where can I get some more detail
of what's being blocked?) But most importantly, what is the name of
the tool to undo/change these settings later on? Thanks.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and large (>32GB) hard disk
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:47:16 GMT
Forget about it!!!
Make sure you have the latest linux kernel or the lastest linux
distribution.
Alan Morgan wrote:
> I've read the HOWTO on this, but it don't really answer my
> question. Actually, I think I have a solution, I just want to
> make sure that I'm on the right track.
>
> My IBM IDE hard disk is 45GB. My BIOS only handles up to 33.8GB.
> IBM has a solution - you tell the hard disk to lie to the BIOS and
> then install a disk overlay (OnTrack disk manager) that reports the
> correct size after the system boots up. The only problem is that
> you have to boot from that hard disk in order for the overlay to
> take effect. If you boot from another disk, or from the CD-ROM, no
> dice.
>
> I'm trying to install a new Slackware and the installation boots off
> of the CD-ROM - so I don't see the full size of the disk.
>
> My solution is to say "to heck with it" and create my partitions anyway,
> putting /home last, and then installing normally. Then when I boot
> up I can use fdisk to extend (actually, destroy and recreate) the last
> partition, format it, and I'm good to go.
>
> At least, that's my hope. The IBM documentation describes how to use
> their software for Linux but it appears to be written for a different
> version of their software and since it is step-by-step instead of
> big-picture instructions it isn't clear to me what they are trying to
> do.
>
> To those who have done this sort of thing before, does my approach make
> sense or is there some incredibly easy approach that I've missed?
> Everything appears to work so far.
>
> Alan
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From: Laurent Cortier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux from Scratch
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:04:59 GMT
> I am considering taking this avenue for some critical Linux systems I am
> putting together. I have been to linuxfromscratch.org and it looks rather
> interesting, but from a brief skimming it seems to lack some material. It
> this website the best source of information regarding building your own
> Linux system or is there a better reference, including books if necessary.
>
> I am looking to build a few different systems, such as specialized server
> environments, router/firewall environments, and workstation environments
> that are lean, but COMPLETE.
I'm using LFS for 3 weeks now, and it's just the best solution ever :)
If you have a little time on your own, install a standard LFS, back it up,
and install it on your different machines/root partitions. Then customize
them... It takes some time, but if you need mainly server machines,
installing just a few servers on each machine will be fast. It only takes
much time to build a complete X / KDE / Gnome desktop with sound, video,
etc. After the initial LFS install (which took about 24 full hours on my
system, but I could have gone much faster with a little more experience at
compiling apps and a few custom scripts), it would only take a few hours to
get a specialized system... Those hours would also be taken if you started
from a distro to customize the software packages, and in LFS it only takes
a small overhead to install the software.
(It's always the same procedure :
./configure --help
./configure your usual options + some specific ones
./make
./make install
If you had a problem, read the doc, install eventual dependencies with the
same procedure (linux loves recursivity ;), and try again from start :)
Then read some docs about configuration of the software, and update your
config files...
)
And indeed, LFS is *VERY* neat...
But there are some very small distros specialized in firewalling available
out there... Don't have any real links though, sorry...
The problem with desktop environments is that in distributions they're not
always as clean as they should be, you've got *LOADS* of packages to chose
from, as where in LFS you only install THE package that interests you, when
you encounter the need for that function.
That's the problem with distros : you get lost in what you get...
And most importantly : in LFS you know where all the configuration files
are, because YOU installed them :)
After having build a LFS system, it's very easy to back it up and reuse it
if you make a rather generalistic kernel configuration for your site aside
your customized one or even already compile all the kernels for your
different machines on the first LFS...
My .2 euros.
"I don't suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
--
Laurent Cortier
Consultant in a free world
http://www.dsimprove.be
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PC Cases (was: Goin Shoppin)
From: Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Mar 2001 00:07:14 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Nose Who Knows) writes:
> On 13 Mar 2001 03:58:18 GMT, Dances With Crows wrote:
> > Good Mid-tower case $ 80
> The bane of my life in assembling computers seems to be a dearth of
> decent PC cases.
So true.
> Who makes good ones?
Some companies make decent cases, like InWin. Some companies make
*good* cases, like Addtronics or Chenbro (sp?). There are certainly
other companies in both categories.
There's also a HUGE amount of utter crap out there, and that's
generally what you see.
> Who sells them? Where the heck do people get them from?
That's a tougher question. If you're lucky enough to have a reseller
in your area that makes an effort to stock something other than crap,
then that's where you go.
Otherwise you order online. There's a reason why places like
coolcases.com exist, and why they're so *cool*. (yes, gratutitious plug)
> Especially interested in information on where to get them from in
> Melbourne, Australia.
Oh. Try Google? (Or word-of-mouth from other Australians, which means
do a Google Usenet search. :))
-Greg
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From: "Moshe Samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: multibooting...
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:19:05 -0500
If the former boot partition was /dev/hda2, and it was after the Windos
partition, and you moved the Windos partition and removed the boot
partition, and made a new Linux partition at the beginning of the drive,,, I
would have thought that the Windos partition would now be /dev/hda2 and the
new boot partition would be /dev/hda1. Why don't you use Linux fdisk from
the command line to read the partition table and find out what your
partitions are called (exit fdisk WITHOUT saving changes!!!). I'm sure you
don't want to change your existing Windos partition to Ext2??!!
MoSam
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <98iciu$82c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Wayne Howarth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I've deleted the existing boot partition and moved the Windows partition
> > using a partition utility.
>
> Did you back up that /boot partition? If not, you'll find it tedious to
> recover, particularly if you're not experienced with Linux emergency
> systems, which you appear not to be. I'd suggest that the quickest
> recovery for you is to re-install Linux. (Be sure to back up any user
> files first, though.)
>
> > What do I do now? I guess I need to put a filesystem on the disk
together
> > with the kernel files. I've tried using 'mke2fs -t ext2 /dev/hda2' but
this
> > complains of 'bad blocks count'.
>
> You said that your *FORMER* /boot partition was /dev/hda2. If so, you
> may not *HAVE* a /dev/hda2 any more, or it may be some other partition
> type. If your new /boot partition is on /dev/hda2, though, that error
> message sounds like an indication that the hard disk is going bad. (I've
> never encountered that error message before, though, so I could be
> wrong, particularly if you're paraphrasing from memory.) If the disk is
> going bad, you should replace it IMMEDIATELY. Post the exact message on
> comp.os.linux.hardware for more advice on this matter.
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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