Linux-Setup Digest #855, Volume #20              Sun, 18 Mar 01 17:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Problem of 2.4.2 kernel? (Henrik Farre)
  Re: Mailshot software ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: ALSA utils compile help... ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Mailshot software ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Lilo Floppy Question (Carl Wick)
  Re: Tulip.o and Linksys NetworkEverywhere NIC. (John Zbesko)
  isapnp conflicts w/motherboard sound device (John Zbesko)
  Re: Linux upgraden ... Tips f�r Anf�nger? (Peter Petersen)
  Re: Lilo Floppy Question (Carl Wick)
  Re: Lilo Floppy Question (Carl Wick)
  Installing Linux on a old 486 ("Ulf Bengtner")
  Boot magic probs ("kskelton")
  Linux router ("ellen migdal")
  Re: Linux router (Michael Heiming)
  Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA (David Efflandt)
  Re: LILO - just L's (J)
  Re: Installing Linux on a old 486 (Nils Holland)

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From: Henrik Farre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem of 2.4.2 kernel?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:28:05 +0100

Yello

OrangeDino wrote:

> And also how to solve the problem of long file name of cdr?

Have you remembert to enable "Joliet surport" in kernel config?

-- 
Mvh. / Kind regards 
Henrik Farre

Webpage: http://Welcome.to/Webbench

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mailshot software
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:28:38 +0100

Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm chair of a voluntary group with a mailing list of 280 people.

>> At the moment we spend a lot of our members money posting paper to them, 
>> and we'd like to move towards 'paperless' operation by sending 
>> electronic messages to those of members that have email addresses.

>> Is there any Linux software out there that can take an ASCII message to 
>> send in one file, and a list of email addresses in another, and send out 
>> the mailshot as a single message which has the recipient addresses in 
>> the bcc field ?

>> All suggestions welcome !

> mail -s"todays mailshot" `tr '\n' ',' < addr_list` < newsletter

errk. I forgot about the fact that you want a bcc: list. I'd pass the
result through a little formail command before mailing it off.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ALSA utils compile help...
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:33:46 +0100

In comp.os.linux.setup Kaushik Raghavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While running "./configure" before compiling ALSA utils package, I get an
> error saying that "lex" was not found. How do I fix this?

By installing lex. (usually comes as the flex - fast lex - package)

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mailshot software
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:31:22 +0100

John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>mail -s"todays mailshot" `tr '\n' ',' < addr_list` < newsletter

> Looks perfect.  Does it require sendmail to be running locally or can it 

But it isn't because I forgot that you wanted a bcc list. OTOH, it
really shouldn't matter.

> deal with my ISPs mail servers directly ?  Will it send individual 
> messages or a single message that's split 'in flight' according to the 
> bcc list ?

There wasn't a bcc list, but yes, sendmail should send individual
messages. It has to in any case because it has to connect to each
destination computer individually. You can optimize this by using a
cleverer mail sender than sendmail.

No sendmail does not need to be running locally.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick)
Subject: Re: Lilo Floppy Question
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:30:45 GMT

WELL DONE...

It worked...I didn't have a initrd.img file on my hard disk...even
tried a find / -name initrd.img -print, the only one it found was the
one on my floppy..so I copied it to /boot and did the rest of your
changes..

it workie...





On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:40:42 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

># vi /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf
>
>boot=/dev/fd0
>timeout=100
>message=/boot/message
>prompt
>image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22  #change this to where your kernel is on the hard
>disk. Mine is on /boot
>        label=linux
>        root=/dev/hda4
>        initrd=/boot/initrd.img # change this to where your initrd image is on
>the hard disk.  Mine is on /boot
>
># lilo -C /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf # VERY IMPORTANT!!!  This update lilo on
>the boot floppy
>
>
>Carl Wick wrote:
>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> That is basically what my lilo.conf looks like on the floppy.  But it
>> does not load the kernel off of the hard disk...it loads the kernel,
>> vmlinuz-2.2.16-22 off of the floppy....
>>
>
>But you did not run lilo on floppy.  If you did, you would find it would
>complain it could not find kernel and initrd image because it was looking on
>the harddisk.  That is what I found out playing with it many years ago.
>
>>
>> I am trying to have lilo running on the floppy but load the kernel off
>> of the hard disk.../dev/hda2
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:26:34 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >$ man lilo.conf  # RTFM on lilo.conf also :)
>> >$ # this is what my lilo.conf for my floppy looks like.  Yours would be
>> >different from mine.  Adjust your lilo.conf
>> >$ # accordingly
>> >$ cat /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf
>> >
>> >boot=/dev/fd0
>> >timeout=100
>> >message=/boot/message
>> >prompt
>> >image=/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
>> >        label=linux
>> >        root=/dev/hda4
>> >        initrd=/initrd.img
>> >
>> >Carl Wick wrote:
>> >
>> >> The issue is..I'm not sure what the lilo.conf should look like...
>> >>
>> >> thanks for the help....welll.....thanks for the feedback.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:18:15 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >$ man lilo # RTFM on lilo :)
>> >> >
>> >> >This is the option you want
>> >> >       -C config-file
>> >> >              lilo  reads  its instructions about what files to map from
>> >> >its config
>> >> >              file, by default /etc/lilo.conf.  This option can be used
>> >> >to  specify
>> >> >              a non-default config file.
>> >> >
>> >> ># mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy # mount that linux boot floppy
>> >> ># lilo -C /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf # update lilo on the boot floppy
>> >> ># umount /mnt/floppy # unmount that linux boot floppy
>> >> >
>> >> >Carl Wick wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Signature didn't work on this post...please remove the numbers to
>> >> >> email me directly...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:18:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick)
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I run mkbootdisk and it creates a floopy boot disk using Lilo and it
>> >> >> >works fine.  I would like to be able boot Lilo off the floppy, but
>> >> >> >have the kernel load off of the hard disk instead of the floppy.  I
>> >> >> >had done it that way several years ago with a Slackware
>> >> >> >distribution...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Can someone help?  I am pretty sure it is doable, but am struggling
>> >> >> >with Lilo.  I read the mini HOWTO on Lilo but still struggling.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Thanks in advance...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Remove the numbers in the email address...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Carl
>> >> >
>> >
>

Remove the numbers to email

Carl

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From: John Zbesko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tulip.o and Linksys NetworkEverywhere NIC.
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:02:21 -0600

David wrote:
> 
> Need help on this bad. Works great in Windows. Cannot seem to get either the
> tulip.o driver inserted or,..... Using Mandrake 7.2, comes with the tulip
> driver that Linksys says works with this card.
> 

Forget the tulip driver on the Mandrake 7.2- it doesn't work. I had to
download the latest version from http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.html
and replace the tulip source from Mandrake. (Then recompile module and
then modprobe tulip)
Incidently, the 2.4.2 kernel contains a working tulip which is an
alternative.

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From: John Zbesko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: isapnp conflicts w/motherboard sound device
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:08:59 -0600

I'm going nuts! My daughter has a clone Cyrix PC with an onboard
soundcard, CMI8330/C3D (identified w/sndconfig.) I can't seem to
straighten out some resource conflict - the best I've accomplished is
the sound sample in sndconfig starts but cuts out. I'm working with
kernel 2.4.2. This PC has a serial mouse.

How do I determine what's conflicting? Can anyone suggest a procedure
for debugging? I seem to be thrashing around trying one thing after
another hoping that something works. I've messed with different modules,
different settings in sndconfig, HardDrake (Mandrake 7.2), etc. I've
waded through the HOWTO's and newsgroups.

Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated!

John Zbesko

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From: Peter Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux upgraden ... Tips f�r Anf�nger?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:13:17 +0100

"Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Just ignore the posts.
>
>I do when I can't read them.
>I wasn't talking to anyone else but the OP when I first wrote this.
>He should simply be made aware, that his chances in this NG to get help
>are minimal if he doesn't conform to the language most people speak.
>
>How I tell him that, is up to me, if you don't like the way I tell him that,
>too bad. If you disagree, and wish to clarify things more for the OP,
>please be my guest.

It was the tone of your original article that I found provocative
(between the lines).


>
>> > I know. Postings in international groups should better
>> > be in english though.
>>
>> Well either ignore the international languages, or stick to US/UK only
>> groups!
>
>I will do neither of these options.
>I will try to read those, try to help, and tell them that they
>should post in english, if they like to get some help.

Of course, as I already mentioned, posting in German reduces your
potentially helping audience, but this doesn't mean that it should be
frowned upon, if someone does (I am German, but I don't post in German
here for a good reason).
I don't agree at all with the idea of flaming people who use a national
language. Moreover, German is a big language in the sense of having
about 100 millions of native speakers in Europe (not to mention all the
many who understand it more or less, like many Dutch people for
instance). So while this is not as many people as English speakers, it
is still one of the bigger languages in the world, and you can be sure
that many, many German speaking people follow this group (this has
nothing to do with german arrogance, after all, and I don't like the
all-English arrogance either).
But anyway, even if someone posted in Icelandic, I wouldn't mind!

I have no problem with seeing headers in languages I don't understand
(or not well), I just don't see a need to feel offended by that.


Regards
Peter(sen)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick)
Subject: Re: Lilo Floppy Question
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:09:53 GMT

Cool.....worked on one system, but having a problem on another.  When
I run the lilo command to update lilo on the floppy I am getting an
error:

Warning: device 0x0302 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
Fatal: geo_comp_addr:  Cylinder number is too big (2237 > 1023)




On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:02:06 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:29:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick) wrote:
>
>>Can I direct it to read the kernel off of my root instead of off the
>>floppy? 
>
>The answer is "Yes".  That's how I do it.
>
># /etc/lilo.conf
>boot=/dev/fd0
>prompt
>timeout=100
>image=/boot/vmlinuz    #kernel file on HD
>         label = linux
>         root = /dev/hd??      #root device
>         read-only
>other=                         #whatever else you want to boot
>
>Chris Ward.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick)
Subject: Re: Lilo Floppy Question
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:10:45 GMT

Cool.....worked on one system, but having a problem on another.  When
I run the lilo command to update lilo on the floppy I am getting an
error:

Warning: device 0x0302 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
Fatal: geo_comp_addr:  Cylinder number is too big (2237 > 1023)



On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:40:42 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

># vi /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf
>
>boot=/dev/fd0
>timeout=100
>message=/boot/message
>prompt
>image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22  #change this to where your kernel is on the hard
>disk. Mine is on /boot
>        label=linux
>        root=/dev/hda4
>        initrd=/boot/initrd.img # change this to where your initrd image is on
>the hard disk.  Mine is on /boot
>
># lilo -C /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf # VERY IMPORTANT!!!  This update lilo on
>the boot floppy
>
>
>Carl Wick wrote:
>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> That is basically what my lilo.conf looks like on the floppy.  But it
>> does not load the kernel off of the hard disk...it loads the kernel,
>> vmlinuz-2.2.16-22 off of the floppy....
>>
>
>But you did not run lilo on floppy.  If you did, you would find it would
>complain it could not find kernel and initrd image because it was looking on
>the harddisk.  That is what I found out playing with it many years ago.
>
>>
>> I am trying to have lilo running on the floppy but load the kernel off
>> of the hard disk.../dev/hda2
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:26:34 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >$ man lilo.conf  # RTFM on lilo.conf also :)
>> >$ # this is what my lilo.conf for my floppy looks like.  Yours would be
>> >different from mine.  Adjust your lilo.conf
>> >$ # accordingly
>> >$ cat /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf
>> >
>> >boot=/dev/fd0
>> >timeout=100
>> >message=/boot/message
>> >prompt
>> >image=/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
>> >        label=linux
>> >        root=/dev/hda4
>> >        initrd=/initrd.img
>> >
>> >Carl Wick wrote:
>> >
>> >> The issue is..I'm not sure what the lilo.conf should look like...
>> >>
>> >> thanks for the help....welll.....thanks for the feedback.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:18:15 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >$ man lilo # RTFM on lilo :)
>> >> >
>> >> >This is the option you want
>> >> >       -C config-file
>> >> >              lilo  reads  its instructions about what files to map from
>> >> >its config
>> >> >              file, by default /etc/lilo.conf.  This option can be used
>> >> >to  specify
>> >> >              a non-default config file.
>> >> >
>> >> ># mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy # mount that linux boot floppy
>> >> ># lilo -C /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf # update lilo on the boot floppy
>> >> ># umount /mnt/floppy # unmount that linux boot floppy
>> >> >
>> >> >Carl Wick wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Signature didn't work on this post...please remove the numbers to
>> >> >> email me directly...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:18:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick)
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I run mkbootdisk and it creates a floopy boot disk using Lilo and it
>> >> >> >works fine.  I would like to be able boot Lilo off the floppy, but
>> >> >> >have the kernel load off of the hard disk instead of the floppy.  I
>> >> >> >had done it that way several years ago with a Slackware
>> >> >> >distribution...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Can someone help?  I am pretty sure it is doable, but am struggling
>> >> >> >with Lilo.  I read the mini HOWTO on Lilo but still struggling.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Thanks in advance...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Remove the numbers in the email address...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Carl
>> >> >
>> >
>


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From: "Ulf Bengtner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Linux on a old 486
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:50:50 GMT

I've tried to install Linux on a couple of old 486:s but have not succeded.
The installation bombs with signal 11.
I have tried with Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.1 with almost the same result,
and I have tried two different 486:s without success.

One is a Dell 486 66MHz, 16Mb RAM and 380Mbyte disk. The other is a noname
computer with 486/66, 20Mbyte RAM and 380Mbyte disk.

I use "text expert" mode and try do a miminal installation. I have
configured a 40Mbyte swap partition. Everything seems to be OK until the
install program starts to format the partitions. I don't know if I'm through
the formatting or not when the install program crashes with signal 11. The
same happens with Redhat as well as with Mandrake.
Any ideas?

Regards
Ulf Bengtner
(I'm a newbie on Linux but worked with software development for 20 years).



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From: "kskelton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot magic probs
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:29:29 -0000

Apologies if this is a really stupid question, I'm a total newbie when it
comes to Linux. I have recently installed Mandrake 7.2, I installed it on a
separate Hard drive to my main Win98 partition. It is on a 7Gb partition on
a 20GB hard drive, the other 12 odd gig is a dos partition I use for back up
stuff from Windoze. I tried to install Boot magic to boot either Win98 or
Linux, but it doesn't work, I can boot into Win98 ok, but if I choose Linux,
it says starting Linux, and nothing happens ? Linux will load OK with a boot
floppy I created using the mkbootdisk command, but I'd like to run Linux
straight of my hard drive.  I also cant get my soundcard to work in Linux
:((
Any ideas or tips would be much appreciated . TIA
my set-up is -:
Abit KT7a-raid
2X41.1gb IBM HDD in raid 0
Tbird 1gig
256mb crucial sdram
20gb IBM ( 7 GB Linux part. and 12 gig dos part.)
Pioneer A103s DVD rom
Creative CDRW 2444
Turtle beach Sonic Fury
Realtek 10mbit NIC



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From: "ellen migdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Linux router
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:20:10 GMT

To Group:

I am about to set up an old PC as a router - using either linux or freseco.
My problem is prior to this - I need 2 NIC cards - one coming in from ISP,
one going out to hub.  I put in 2 Linksys cards fine - but - how do tell
which card is which as far as the IRQ addresses are concerned.  The router
software needs to know, and I need to know,the IRQ of the "top" NIC card and
the IRQ of the "bottom" card.

Also, the Linsys people strongly suggested that I NOT put 2 NIC cards, of
their ,or other makes, into the same chassis.  Is there anything to this??

Thanks,

Keith



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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:43:32 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux router

ellen misdeal wrote:
> 
> To Group:
> 
> I am about to set up an old PC as a router - using either linux or freseco.
> My problem is prior to this - I need 2 NIC cards - one coming in from ISP,
> one going out to hub.  I put in 2 Linksys cards fine - but - how do tell
> which card is which as far as the IRQ addresses are concerned.  The router
> software needs to know, and I need to know,the IRQ of the "top" NIC card and
> the IRQ of the "bottom" card.

There should be some small LED on your NICs showing you, using ping
which one is eth0 and eth1, you may have to setup some test
environment,
using another machine or just a cross-over cable. Or put one in your
machine set it up and put then the second one in...

> 
> Also, the Linsys people strongly suggested that I NOT put 2 NIC cards, of
> their ,or other makes, into the same chassis.  Is there anything to this??

Why? I did run some machines with dual NIC, from the same type and
never encountered
any problems due to this fact.

Good luck

Michael Heiming

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:44:27 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>(if this is not the right place to ask, please redirect)
>
>I've got a slight problem here:
>
>When both my CD-ROM and my harddisk are using DMA, I sometimes get
>errors over my console:
>
>hda: timeout waiting for DMA
>ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 14
>hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }

Doctor it hurts when I do that.  So don't do that.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you are supposed to use dma for cdrom
(since it is much slower than a hard drive).  If you can, it would be
better to have it as master on the second ide channel (ide1) by itself
instead of slave on the first (ide0).  In other words wire the cdrom as
hdc instead of hdb.

>My hardware: I've got a AMI BIOS (on a Pentium 166, I suppose it's
>quite old), a 40 GB "Maxtor" harddisk, and a 32x "Lite-On" CD-ROM
>player.
>
>If you need more information, feel free to ask.
>
>-- 
>wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium
>
>Real men don't take backups.
>They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
>                                       -- Linus Torvalds

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J)
Subject: Re: LILO - just L's
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:52:03 GMT

did you change your boot block I had a similar problem and the advice
below worked for me..

Did you change your booting method..?

At your own risk..
try booting off of a   DOS disc and running

 fdisk /mbr

then reboot
*******************************
Remember that there are two possible locations for LILO to be
installed to: 
1) MBR (Master Boot Record - at the very front of the drive)
2) Boot sector of the active partition on your hard drive (usually
/boot)

Basically what usually happens is that several installs are done on a
machine.  At some point during those tries, LILO sometimes winds up on
the
MBR.  If you intend for LILO to be on the boot partition, then that
copy on
the MBR will be getting in your way (because it has to go "through"
the MBR
to get to the active partition) until you clear it.  Read below to see
how
to get that out of your way.

When the system boots it will hit the MBR first.  Then if you have an
active
partition, it will try to boot the boot sector on that active
partition.

Find out where you are trying to place your copy of LILO.  You can
determine
this by looking at your /etc/lilo.conf.  

If you are installing LILO to the MBR (boot= line shows /dev/sda or
/dev/ida/c0d0) then you shouldn't have to worry with much other than
making
sure that your /etc/lilo.conf is configured correctly.  (Try Charles'
idea
of trying it with linear and also without if needed).

If you are installing LILO to the boot sector of your active
partition,
here's a short checklist:
1) Boot to DOS or Win95 and run "fdisk /mbr".  This will clean up the
MBR so
that if there is old LILO code there, it will be removed.  Please
don't get
any ideas of cleaning up the MBR using any other tool that
Dos/Win95/Win98
"fdisk /mbr".
2) Wherever you put your boot sector (usually /boot), make sure that
it is
the only partition marked active.  (You should have only 1 partition
marked
active at any given time - having multiple partitions marked active
will
cause booting problems).
3) Try the linear/non-linear method
4) If boot is in the extended partition, then you can't boot directly
to it
without help from either the MBR or some boot manager such as System
Commander, etc.
5) /boot should be completely below the 1024 cylinder limit.




>Lilo spits out "L" repeatedly line after line and
>nothing else. I took the same drive to my
>machine at work and it booted with no
>problem at all. I can boot from a floppy and
>access the drive so I don't think its the ribbon
>or anything like that. Possible that it's a BIOS
>thing? I actually had it running before and
>decided to do a reinstall (well, about 4 or 5
>really) using the custom setting as I only want
>web services running and my drive is short on
>space. Somewhere along the line, it started to
>wig out. I'm stumped. Any help would be much
>appreciated...
>
>grassyass.
>James
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com
>http://www.deja.com/


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From: Nils Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a old 486
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:51:30 +0100

Ulf Bengtner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use "text expert" mode and try do a miminal installation. I have
> configured a 40Mbyte swap partition. Everything seems to be OK until the
> install program starts to format the partitions. I don't know if I'm through
> the formatting or not when the install program crashes with signal 11. The
> same happens with Redhat as well as with Mandrake.
> Any ideas?

I've only ever had one similar incident here with SuSE Linux 7.1. I 
successfully created partitions and when the automatic install program 
tried to format them, it crashed. As it turned out and as I read in the 
SuSE Support Database, there is a problem with some versions of fdisk and 
HDs that at one time or another contained BSD-partitions (for example from 
FreeBSD). In fact, the guy from which I cheaply got the hard disk that 
caused trouble confirmed that FreeBSD was installed there some time ago.

This problem is actually really evil: When executing fdisk on such a disk, 
one sees some garbage BSD-partition entries that in fact are not really 
there (only some versions of fdisk, like the one supplied with SuSE 7.1 
display them, while the fdisk in SuSE 6.2 shows a blank partition table). 
Any try with SuSE 7.1's fdisk to remove these partitions caused fdisk to 
crash, and the only solution I found was to use Western Digital's "dldiag" 
software to write zeros to the whole drive. I know that simply overwriting 
the MBR of that disk doesn't solve the problem, but it should be possible 
to use the dd command to overwrite the partition table with zeros - I 
don't think that one really has to zero-out the whole drive as I did.

Anyway, I guess that it's rather unlikely that you have this very problem, 
since I don't expect that some BSD-OS was installed on both of your 
computer's HDs. However, it's the only thing I have ever encountered 
myself that shows the symptoms mentioned by you, so it's all I can tell 
you about it ;-)

Greetings,
Nils

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