Linux-Setup Digest #857, Volume #20              Sun, 18 Mar 01 23:13:07 EST

Contents:
  X Startup Problem (Kyle Christopher Smith)
  Exceed and xdmcp (Donald)
  linux, fortran and numerical methods (David Punsalan)
  KDE & mount cdrom (Robert Primicias)
  modem ("Bbitzer")
  3Com ("Bbitzer")
  Re: Installing Linux ? ("Hokus Pokus")
  Re: Should I install rh6.2 or 7.0??? (Steve Martin)
  Re: Installing Linux on a old 486 (Angry Bob)
  Re: Linux Virgin (Mark Cooperstein)
  Re: Installing RedHat 7.0 via FTP ("Chau Chee Yang")
  Re: linux, fortran and numerical methods ("Tim Prince")
  Mounting a VFAT logical partition ("David T. Wilson")
  Re: Mounting a VFAT logical partition (Gary Whitten)
  SB Live Value PCI - No CD Audio? (Keeper of the Key to Time)
  Re: SB Live Value PCI - No CD Audio? (Michael Perry)
  Re: Dual booting (Rod Smith)
  GUI Xconfigurator? ("David T. Wilson")
  Re: Boot magic probs (Rod Smith)

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From: Kyle Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: X Startup Problem
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:15:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I run Mandrake 7.2 and I am having problems with the X server.  The
system starts up fine, but I don't get the graphical login screen and I
cannot seem to start X from the console.  I've tried typing startx, but
i get the following message:  "Fatal server error:  Could not open
default font 'fixed'".

Anyone have any ideas as to how I can get the system up and running?

Thank you very much for your help,

Kyle Smith


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From: Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Exceed and xdmcp
Date: 18 Mar 2001 19:53:25 -0500

I have redhad 7.0 and exceed running on a win98 machine.
Exceed works fine.  I can run all the apps I want with 
no problems.

However what I wanted to do was set it up so that the Win98
machine could see a login screen as if sitting at the Linux
machine itself.

I understand that in order to do this I need to use xdmcp.
I have read the man page and searched the howtos and read
the help under Exceed but I *cannot* get this to work!!

At one point I even had my Linux machine showing up under
exceed as one of the hosts I could choose from however in
*all* cases no matter what I do whenever I fire off exceed
it will come up with the Xserver and just a blank screen.
No apps.  No login screen.  No nothing.  Like I said I can
still start apps on the exceed server but I *cannot* get
xdmcp to work correctly.

In exceed I set the communication type to xdmcp-request
and got nothing.  I also tried xdmcp-broadcast (this
is the point where once I was able to get my Linux
machine in the list but when I selected it... nothing
same as before!...) None of these work.

Could someone please give me a clue as to what I am doing
wrong!

Step by step what to do on Linux (though I have a pretty good
idea of this from reading the doc I still might be doing 
something wrong)

Step by step what to do on the Exceed side (I suspect this is
where I am going awry)

All help *greatly* appreciated!

thanks
-Donald

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From: David Punsalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: linux, fortran and numerical methods
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:47:25 -0600

Hi,

I have a simulation program that uses a Newton's method to solve a system
of nonlinear equations. For some reason, the program will converge on UNIX
and Windows98 OS, but not on Linux.  I use the same compiler on all
machines: GNU's g77.  

I think this may have something to do with the way the different OS's
handle the "doulble precision" data type, but I'm only speculating.

Has anyone else had this problem?  Anyone know how to fix it?  

Thanks,

David




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From: Robert Primicias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE & mount cdrom
Date: 19 Mar 2001 01:15:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just installed Linux Mandrake 6.5 yesterday as a server.

How do I find out the mount point of the CD rom or even the floppy
disk?  When I do a "df", I don't see anything?

Also, the gui starts up fine (X windows I guess) but I was hoping
to see KDE starting also.  Can anybody tell me how to start KDE or
how to find out if it's installed.  

Thanks in Advance.

Totally lost.

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From: "Bbitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:19:26 -0500

My laptop computer has a modem (actiontec 56K v.90 Modem) that is
unrecognized by MDK 7.1. I know that winmodems do not work under Linux but
is there any software that I can download to make it work or is there any
other possible solutions to dialing out? I did purchase an external U.S
Robotics for my desktop for that reason and it works fine.
Bryan





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From: "Bbitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3Com
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:20:09 -0500

My laptop has 10/100 LAN CardBus PC card, model # 3ccfe575ct. My device
manager under MDK 7.1 does not pick it up. Is this typical or do I need to
do somthing more?

-B



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From: "Hokus Pokus" <Hokus [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux ?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:19:32 -0800
Reply-To: "Hokus Pokus" <Hokus [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I went to a local freight store and found Redhat 6.2

but it didn't have a boot floppy with it. I tried to contact

support to get one but they keep sending me a generic

form reply pointing me to buy Redhat 7.



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"Gary Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The .iso file is a CD image file. You should be able to burn a bootable
> Cd from it. Your best bet is then to install on an empty hard disk
> drive. If that isn't possible, use Partition Magic or other software to
> create some free space on your drive and install to it.
>
> Most distributions these days take you directly to X when you start.
>
>
> Hokus Pokus wrote:
>
> > Yeah I have Mandrake 6.2 but it says nothing about packages.
> > I tried installing it before and I could not even get the windows
> > like window to open (X Window I think it is called) . Not to sure
> > if I even installed it. The book tells you nothing about useability
> > for new users. I have never used Linux before but want to learn
> > as I am getting VERY tired of Windows crashing.
> >
> > Thanks for any help
> >
> > --
> >
> > --
> >
> > ->->->->->->  Reply in newsgroup only please  <-<-<-<-<-<-
> >
> >
> >
> > "Michael Heiming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >> Hokus Pokus wrote:
> >>
> >>> I downloaded  a version of RedHat Linux and
> >>> now need help installing. Is there a web page
> >>> somewhere of directions?
> >>>
> >>> Also what does an ISO file open with?
> >>> That is how it came.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any halp
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> ->->->->->->  Reply in newsgroup only please  <-<-<-<-<-<-
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I would suggest to really buy a userfriendly distro, as you get those
> >> ISO images perfectly,
> >> on bootable CD and a book which explains howto install/setup your
> >> distro.
> >>
> >> Good luck
> >>
> >> Michael Heiming
>
>



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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Should I install rh6.2 or 7.0???
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:04:02 -0500

John Beardmore wrote:

> >You can download it from Red Hat (ftp.redhat.com) and probably the mirrors.
> >Look around and you should be able to find the .iso image.
> 
> No, I can't see any isos of upgrade disks at all, just loads of rpms
> e.g. ftp://priority.redhat.com/updatres/6.2/alpha/.

Try

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-6.2/iso/

for Red Hat 6.2, or

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-7.0/iso/

for Red Hat 7.0. These are the full installs, which
have an option to upgrade an existing system when you
start them.

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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a old 486
Date: 19 Mar 2001 01:57:33 GMT

What would you like to read?  [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Nils Holland scroll!  it says:

> would crash during kernel-bootup or when using some applications. I think 
> it's unlikely that Pentium-optimization is responsbile for a crash when 
> formatting partitions. Although what you have said is surely a 
> possibility, I would place it somewhere near the bottom of my 

<chuckle>  I'd be suprised that he got past the kernel loading portion
of the boot-up.  I wouldn't even have expected for the install to have
gotten to a partitioning thing.... but if it did, I would _definatley_
expect it to crash there.... 

there are flavors available for download for both mandrake and others
that are compiled for the 486.... get one of those. 

-- 
AngryBob                        Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
                Somebody set up us the bomb!
                                -- Operator

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Cooperstein)
Subject: Re: Linux Virgin
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:28:37 GMT

It is very doable in Linux, but it will take a *long* while to get it up and 
running as the learning curve will be *very* steep.  If you want an easier 
solution, you can get a Windows proxy server called: wingate 
(www.wingate.com).  It supports NAT amongst other things, is real easy to 
setup, and will do exactly what your looking to do with a minimum of fuss.  
Especially, since your already familiar with Windows.


just my 2cents.


Mark

In article <fAMr6.3172$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "keith migdal" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dear Group:
>
>I am a novice to this O/S. I'd like to talk about what I want to do, what I
>have to do it with, and solicit advice on how to get there.
>
>I want to set up a Linux box to be (not sure if I have the right
>terminology):
>
>a proxy server, and/or
>a router, and/or
>an internet server
>
>I have Roadrunner internet service to my house. I want to use the Linux box
>to take in from the cable modem , and then go out to an Ethernet hub, so all
>the PCs/Macs in the house can have simultaneous internet access.
>
>I have an old Pentium, 100MHZ, 16 meg RAM, 240 meg HD, with CDROM. It has
>Windows 95 now, but I intend to use all of the HD for Linux - I do not need
>Windows on this box.
>
>I have the Caldera Linux circa 1998.
>
>My first question - is what I want to do - doable?
>
>Assuming the answer is yes, my next question - I assume I need 2 NIC cards -
>one for input FROM the cable modem, one for output TO the Ethernet hub. I
>have 2 identical NIC cards, but I have not installed them yet. Should I:
>
>install the cards first in Windows? or
>physically install the cards in the box (but not the drivers) then load
>Linux and let Linux recognize them and then install drivers? or
>get the Linux installed correctly and stable, and then put in the
>cards/drivers??
>
>Thanks,
>
>Keith
>
>


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From: "Chau Chee Yang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing RedHat 7.0 via FTP
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:57:53 +0800
Reply-To: "Chau Chee Yang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have tried to link to my CD-ROM also, but it still doesn't work.  I still
get a message "Loading /mnt/runtime ramdisk...".

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Best Regards,
Chau Chee Yang
Business Component Enterprise Sdn. Bhd. ---> www.bce.com.my
Phone: 03-3372 5717   Fax: 03-3372 5719

"TheMartian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:5Xat6.9799$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here's a very long shot for you.
>
> do not copy the CD to the HDD, just link to it. Which is how I usually do
> things.
>
> Another thing, have you checked the link with a sniffer?
>
> David
>
> Sydney, Australia.
>
>
> In article <992ed5$kaa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chau Chee Yang"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I haven't try NFS yet.  Will try for it but I think I will face the same
> > problem.
> >



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From: "Tim Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: linux, fortran and numerical methods
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:12:04 -0800
Reply-To: "Tim Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

g77 doesn't handle double precision any differently between Windows and
linux.  If you have un-initialized variables and have not specified
appropriate options, those may be handled (accidentally) differently.  Not
all versions of g77 are identical; if your linux version is old, consider
upgrading to gcc-2.95.3.
"David Punsalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I have a simulation program that uses a Newton's method to solve a system
> of nonlinear equations. For some reason, the program will converge on UNIX
> and Windows98 OS, but not on Linux.  I use the same compiler on all
> machines: GNU's g77.
>
> I think this may have something to do with the way the different OS's
> handle the "doulble precision" data type, but I'm only speculating.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?  Anyone know how to fix it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
>
>



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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:27:40 -0800
From: "David T. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Mounting a VFAT logical partition

Hi,

I have tried to mount an extended partition with problems.  I issue the
command:

#mount -t vfat /dev/had3 /mnt/music

and this is the message I get back:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option , bad superblock on /dev/hda3, or to
many mounted file systems
(aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, instead of some
logical partition inside?)
#

The answer to that question is NO.  I want to mount the logical
partition inside the extended one but it wont let me. (of course I am
most likely forgetting/doing something wrong)

This is what my "windows" drive looks like.
c: windows- primary
-: - extended
       d: music - logical

windows is on hda
linux is on hdb

Any info on mounting d:music to /mnt/music would be great.  I have also
tried to mount hda2 and hda4 with the same effect.  Thank you for your
time.

Sincerely,

David T. Wilson



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From: Gary Whitten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Mounting a VFAT logical partition
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:21:49 GMT

David,
 What is the output of  the "p" option (print) from within "fdisk
/dev/hda"?

    Gary Whitten
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"David T. Wilson" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have tried to mount an extended partition with problems.  I issue the
> command:
>
> #mount -t vfat /dev/had3 /mnt/music
>
> and this is the message I get back:
>
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option , bad superblock on /dev/hda3, or to
> many mounted file systems
> (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, instead of some
> logical partition inside?)
> #
>
> The answer to that question is NO.  I want to mount the logical
> partition inside the extended one but it wont let me. (of course I am
> most likely forgetting/doing something wrong)
>
> This is what my "windows" drive looks like.
> c: windows- primary
> -: - extended
>        d: music - logical
>
> windows is on hda
> linux is on hdb
>
> Any info on mounting d:music to /mnt/music would be great.  I have also
> tried to mount hda2 and hda4 with the same effect.  Thank you for your
> time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David T. Wilson


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From: Keeper of the Key to Time <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: SB Live Value PCI - No CD Audio?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:43:53 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi, everyone...

        Ok, I'm sure this is a basic issue for those experienced with audio 
hardware, but I have zero experience with modern sound cards. (Previous one 
cost $15 and was ESS-based.) Now I have a new system and a new sound card 
-- invoice says Sound Blaster Live Value PCI, and the sticker on the card 
says CT4830; that's all the info I have, because it was OEM. (Oh yeah, I 
got a CD with it that's labeled "Sound Blaster Live 1024", and seems to 
contain drivers for various flavors of Windows.)
        I'm running Mandrake 7.2, kernel has basic sound modules compiled, plus 
support for EMU10K (lsmod shows "soundcore" and "emu10k1" loaded when I'm 
playing sounds). HardDrake [chuckle] detected the card and didn't seem to 
do much; it works great for playing every type of audio I can think of -- 
except CDs.

        Troubleshooting steps I've followed:

        Tried going down to basics -- login as root, use "cdp" to play a CD... 
nothing.

        Changed owner/permissions on /dev/audio*, /dev/dsp* ...nothing. (My SuSE 
laptop has mode 666 for those devices; Mandrake created them as 600, but 
neither seems to make a difference.)

        Changed audio cable between CD-ROM and sound card (swapped out the cable, 
changed it from CD-ROM to CD-RW [BTW, I may never store MP3s on the hard 
drive again, since playing 'em from a SCSI-based CD device seems 
rock-solid!], flipped it end-for-end, reversed polarities... nothing.

        Anyway, have exhausted the on-system documentation and can't seem to find 
anything relevant via Google (damn, I miss DejaNews) -- my problem seems to 
be the opposite of the one most people have. Any advice would be much 
appreciated!  :)

Thanks,

-- 
// Carl Hudkins = reverse("com.bigfoot at keybounce");
//
// "Wake me when it's over, touch my face
//  Tell me every word has been erased..."  --TMBG


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: SB Live Value PCI - No CD Audio?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:51:47 -0000

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:43:53 -0500, 
Keeper of the Key to Time <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, everyone...
>
>        Ok, I'm sure this is a basic issue for those experienced with audio 
>hardware, but I have zero experience with modern sound cards. (Previous one 
>cost $15 and was ESS-based.) Now I have a new system and a new sound card 
>-- invoice says Sound Blaster Live Value PCI, and the sticker on the card 
>says CT4830; that's all the info I have, because it was OEM. (Oh yeah, I 
>got a CD with it that's labeled "Sound Blaster Live 1024", and seems to 
>contain drivers for various flavors of Windows.)
>        I'm running Mandrake 7.2, kernel has basic sound modules compiled, plus 
>support for EMU10K (lsmod shows "soundcore" and "emu10k1" loaded when I'm 
>playing sounds). HardDrake [chuckle] detected the card and didn't seem to 
>do much; it works great for playing every type of audio I can think of -- 
>except CDs.
>
This is probably a question you have already looked at.  Does it have a
cable going from the cd to the soundcard?  These have either white plugs on
each end or they make one called the "universal audio connector" which will
do the two different sizes on modern sound cards. 

Might want to check out the hardware too.

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Dual booting
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:02:25 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <992qgl$fns$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Andy Clayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree with using LOADLIN - I like to keep clear of the MBR if I can and
> besides I've had lots of problems with LILO and my UDMA drives. I have used
> the config.sys method successfully under Win98 SE, however, as stated
> earlier in this thread this WILL NOT WORK under WinME :-( (no config.sys
> file)
> 
> Does anyone have an alternative which allows use of LOADLIN or something
> similar? So not LILO or GRUB or other MBR bashers. I'm having to boot off a
> floppy disc at present which is might inconvenient!

If one or more Linux filesystems are on primary partitions, you can
install LILO in the Linux partition's boot sector and make that
partition bootable. The result will be a regular MBR, but LILO will
still work. If a subsequent re-install of Windows sets the Windows
partition to be active, you can just use FDISK to change it back.

(You can also install LILO in the boot partition's boot sector if it's
a logical partition, but then you need some other boot loader that'll
direct the process to a logical partition, like BootMagic, System
Commander, or Boot Manager. Some of these reside in the MBR
themselves.)

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:15:14 -0800
From: "David T. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GUI Xconfigurator?

I am looking for the command to start a GUI X configurator.  I am using
redhat 7, Xfree86 4.x, and the gnome desktop.

Thanks all

David T. Wilson



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Boot magic probs
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:09:09 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <9935q7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "kskelton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Apologies if this is a really stupid question, I'm a total newbie when it
> comes to Linux. I have recently installed Mandrake 7.2, I installed it on a
> separate Hard drive to my main Win98 partition. It is on a 7Gb partition on
> a 20GB hard drive, the other 12 odd gig is a dos partition I use for back up
> stuff from Windoze. I tried to install Boot magic to boot either Win98 or
> Linux, but it doesn't work, I can boot into Win98 ok, but if I choose Linux,
> it says starting Linux, and nothing happens ? Linux will load OK with a boot
> floppy I created using the mkbootdisk command, but I'd like to run Linux
> straight of my hard drive.

Linux needs a boot loader like LILO, GRUB, or LOADLIN to boot. Mandrake
7.2 favors GRUB, with which I'm not very familiar. The more common LILO
can be installed in the MBR or in the Linux boot partition. If GRUB's
similar, or if you opted to use LILO, my guess is it's not installed, or
it got installed to the MBR and was overwritten. Your /etc/lilo.conf
file should have a line like the following:

boot=/dev/hda6

This tells it to install LILO in the boot sector of /dev/hdb6. (Yours
will probably list some other partition, or /dev/hda, the MBR of the
first disk.) Be sure this value is correct, then type "lilo" to
re-install LILO. If you continue to have problems, post the contents of
your /etc/lilo.conf file.

> I also cant get my soundcard to work in Linux
...
> Turtle beach Sonic Fury

That's a completely different issue. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with
that card, so I can't give you any specific advice on it.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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