Linux-Setup Digest #867, Volume #20 Tue, 20 Mar 01 04:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Why people are doing that? (Juergen Pfann)
Re: Why people are doing that? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9phan?= Peccini)
Re: anaconda bug (David)
Help with first installation ("o.swain")
Re: Linux upgraden ... Tips f�r Anf�nger? ("Eric")
Re: dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98 ("Eric")
Re: Need help with LILO, I think. ("Eric")
Re: dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98 ("Eric")
Re: Central User Database (Wouter Verhelst)
Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA (Wouter Verhelst)
Re: How to mount ntfs 2000 in rw mode? (Wouter Verhelst)
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why people are doing that?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:55:53 +0100
Allen wrote:
>
> I can't really understand why people want to
> spend 5 or 10 hours trying to get a device
> working on linux since there is no help whatsoever
> for it, while it only takes half an hour to get it
> working on Windows? (....)
Sorry, troll, as already your first statement
is *wrong*, I won't argue any longer.
I, for one, do integrate HW that is well-supported
_much_ faster in Linux than in Micros~1's horror
systems. (And I have no need for "bleeding-edge"
HW any PR activists say I must use - I decide on
my own...).
Only one example will be enough :
Recently, I exchanged my single-processor MoBo
with a Dual-CPU one with the same chipset.
While f***ing NT refused to boot even in "vgasave"
mode, and it took me 3 days to repair the installation
(didn't want to completely lose the SIDs and the SAM
and all that sh.. on my PDC - that's why I didn't
reinstall), Linux booted *without any error message*
after the HW exchange.
I simply recompiled a SMP kernel - that's 10 minutes
or so.
As I said, enough now - apparently you don't know
what you're saying anyway....
Juergen
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9phan?= Peccini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why people are doing that?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:12:42 GMT
Allen a �crit :
> I can't really understand why people want to
> spend 5 or 10 hours trying to get a device
> working on linux since there is no help whatsoever
> for it, while it only takes half an hour to get it
> working on Windows? Isn't that a great waste of
> personal life as well as social resources? Does it
> really make sense for computer industry to go back
> to squre one and try to recreate a wheel which we
> already have now? Do people really believe that
> an OS which requires all of its users to know how
> to use makefile can go that far? After all, even
> primitive DOS 1.0 doesn't require me to graduate
> with a CS degree first before I start using it?
> If a resource requires so much background knowledge
> before anyone can really use it, then what's the
> difference does it make compares to not having the
> resource at all?
>
> Can someone give some reasonable and inspirational
> answers for the above questions?
>
>
>
One reason (but there are some others) is illustrated by this example :
we have two PCs at home : one for my son under Windows 98 and one for me
with linux
I had a problem under Windows 98 with DirectX ; I directly go to the update
web site and install DirectX 8 ; then windows was no more working (yes it
was not DirectX 8a). I had to reinstall Windows.
I had a problem with XFree86 with the 3D acceleration. I made a backup of
/usr/X11R6, install one new version : it did not work ; ok I restored
/usr/X11R6 and all was working (without 3D acceleration) ; now, I have all
working fine (but every modification I do, I make a backup of X11R6 )
When I find a new version of a product (like Gimp), I make a secondary
install of the new version in /usr/local. If this new version agree me, I
can install it. If not I simply forget it.
I can not do that with Windows.
Do not forget that a wheel can go in two directions.
(I hope my english is not to bad)
--
Cordialement
Stephan
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anaconda bug
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:39:53 GMT
oldpgmr wrote:
>
> While installing RH7 I encountered a recognized anaconda bug. RH support
> has
> a fix that involves downloading another boot image to build a new install
> disk.
> The problem is that rawrite can't create the floppy from the new image. It
> justs corrupts the diskette. The only way to install RH7 that does not die
> is
> a text install using a single fat32 partition as root. The result is a very
> slow
> installation. I trying to learn about Linux but this is not helping.
Try using a new floppy.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.120% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: "o.swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with first installation
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:50:41 -0000
Dear Anyone
I am struggling to install my first ever Linux installation!
The P.C. I am using is an old 486DX 100 with 32Mb of memory and 1.5GB hard
drive.
The problem I am getting is that when booting from the boot disk or by using
autoboot.bat from the dosutils directory the install freezes on:-
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
This will then go no further!
Anyone help?
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux upgraden ... Tips f�r Anf�nger?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:55:15 +0100
> >I cannot help that.
> >I wasn't even talking to you: why would you be provoced?
>
> Not because I am the original poster, of course. :)
?
You're Peter.
The OP was "Marco Paschotta"
>
> >I think it should be frowned upon.
> >I suspect that a lot of non-english post are posted here by people
unaware
> >of the fact that it will reduce their chances on help.
>
> But that is *their* problem, why feel offended by that?
It has nothing to do with being offended.
It's a way of helping them.
But to do that, I must understand the question first.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:59:25 +0100
> I just installed Mandrake 6.1 and I had almost the same problem. When I
> don't use a boot disk, a bunch of 10101010101010101010 get painted all
over
> the screen instead of loading Linux. I tried putting the "linear" line in
try lba32
But there can be different reasons.
> the lilo.conf file but it didn't seem to help. (I didn't try "-v",
> though). As you can see I am a novice!
the -v is just the verbose switch.
It's usefull when something fails, to locate the error
> So, I'll try going through the steps again and see if that'll work.
> Meantime, does anyone know why I get all these 1010101010s???
It's a BIOS error messages IIRC
You can check manuals to find out what it means if you like.
> Also, Aranwen, I think Eric was telling you to put the line: "lba32" for
> the second line of your lilo.conf file (INSTEAD of linear).
indeed I did.
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with LILO, I think.
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:03:58 +0100
> ..and here comes another troubled young gal..
> :)
> Just one question....my boot partition is using 16 MB..is that SO much?
> why is that 1024 thing bugging me???And no i don't have an old version of
> lilo..i only bought the thing 2 months ago :)
> (me having problems with lilo-can't boot without start up disk- will
> probably follow Eric's advice and reinstall linux)
>
Got connected to the wrong thread?
16 MB is not much. And definately not 1024 cylinders in size.
Only if there's a windows in front you could have this problem.
PS. whenever you bought your linux distro is irrelevant.
You can still buy old distro's and only the last distro's have a
lilo that is new enough.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:38 +0100
> Ok so i added lba32, lilo loaded, i selected windows, nothing happened, i
> couldn't load windows, i reinstalled linux using the expert mode,
> configured lilo. Now lilo loads and everything works fine.
A bit of overkill.
There was no need to reinstall yet.
I just mentioned that to get the lilo screen, you should have taken the
expert-install
> BUT...does this lilo story have anything to do with the hd failure i'm
> getting when my system boots? It freezes there and i have to unplug- plug
> again etc..
> help?pls? :)
Need more info.
What HDD failure?
If you get BIOS errors, you must check that the disc is connected right.
Per IDE channel you can have either one or two drives (HDD/CDROM).
If you have one, it must be jumpered as the master, if you have two, on
must be
master, the other must be slave. If you ignore these things, your BIOS may
get confused
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: Central User Database
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:23:19 GMT
In article <9950hh$iur$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Gerschwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> thanks - I thought about NFS and NIS but how do I specify where to look for
> the passw database?
This is explained in-depth in the NIS-HOWTO.
It comes down to this:
- on the server, you point the yp-daemons to the correct passwordfile
- on the client, you create a normal passwd-file with possibly local
users that override the server's users, and you import users from
the server by adding a line like this to /etc/passwd:
+::::::
For details, please look into the NIS-HOWTO.
<snip>
--
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium
Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:23:18 GMT
In article <994grp$92f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Search the NG's old posts at deja.com.
"old" as in "about a year old", or as in "very old"? ;-)
> IIRC, there is an option in the kernel config you should set to no.
> I can't remember which one exactly, so may the google be with you :-)
You got me looking in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help. There seems to be an
option called CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE, which gives an error like
this:
hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
while my errormessage is:
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 14
hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
At first sight, it looks very similar to the error I get, but a closer
look makes clear it's something else. So before I drown in google, did
you mean this option, or was it something else?
--
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium
Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: How to mount ntfs 2000 in rw mode?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:23:19 GMT
In article <9951cc$mbl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Evgueni Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I had no problems using ntfs on NT4, but I have upgrated to win2k.
> I have cvs files on my ntfs pertition and I would like to use the same files
> from Linux.
> That is the main reason why I need ntfs in read-write.
> I'm runing 2.4.2 with full support of ntfs.
> So it is possible to get write mode ... I hope.
Somewhere between kernel 2.2.14 and kernel 2.2.17, the helptext in
Documentation/Configure.help in the kernel sourcetree changed from "If
you say Y here, you will (hopefully) be able to write to
NTFS-partitions (...)" to "If you say Y here, you will (maybe) be able
to write to NTFS-partitions (...)". That's got its reason: writing to
NTFS4-partitions (from NT4) was unstable, but worked most of the
time. Writing to NTFS5-partitions is asking for trouble. NTFS5 has
changed from NTFS4, but the Linux kernelsupport is unmaintained
because NTFS is poorly documented, and hardly reverse engineerable.
<snip>
--
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium
Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
-- Linus Torvalds
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