Linux-Setup Digest #880, Volume #20 Wed, 21 Mar 01 10:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Redhat 7.0 and AMD Duron 700 MHZ (Donald K Knepshield)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Manfred Bartz)
Re: tarball ("Eric")
Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream> ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's ("Newbie from Win98")
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (John Beardmore)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Steve Withers)
Telnet and vi (Marc)
Re: Shut off & power down? (John D. Bruner)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (H.Bruijn)
Re: Best E-mail Client? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how do I get a service to start automatically? ("Anthony")
Re: Best E-mail Client? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Internet Sharing ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: php probs (Michael Heiming)
Re: Reading and writing to a serial port (Kenneth Stephen)
Max_open message ("Graeme Muirhead")
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Zsolt Zsoldos)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (John Beardmore)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (John Beardmore)
Re: Problem with lan card ("Davide Bianchi")
Re: Telnet and vi (H.Bruijn)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald K Knepshield)
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 and AMD Duron 700 MHZ
Date: 21 Mar 2001 12:00:28 GMT
Paul Olivo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello All:
: Yes, I am a linux newbie. I recently loaded 6.2 on my home Compaq 5000
: Presario with an AMD 700 mhz Duron Chip. It loaded up flawlessly. I then
: loaded RH 7.0 on my IBM laptop and liked that much better.
: Question: Why does RH 7.0 hang during the install at
: running /sbin/loader???
: Is it some incompatibility problem with AMD chips and 7.0? If so, whats
: the workaround, id really like to get 7.0 on my home machine.. its looks
: and works great!
:
: PS. please respond direct to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Any and help is greatly appreciated!
: Paul Olivo
I run RH 7.0 on a home built Duron 800 and have zero problems. I don't
think that the chip is the problem ( I could be mistaken). What other
hardware is on the box you are trying to install it on?
:
: --
: Posted via CNET Help.com
: http://www.help.com/
--
Kevin Knepshield
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
From: Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:18:56 GMT
Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
Well, do you need all that stuff? For email???
> Is there a good mail client? I use Lotus Notes for my work e-mail via
> VMWare in a Windows 98 VM. I would prefer to use a Linux mail program
> for my personal, non-work mail.
My main criteria would be that the client supports both
mail *and* news.
Mahogany looks promising but AFAIK it is not quite ready
for prime time.
<http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/download.html>
--
Manfred
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ipchainsLogAnalyzer, NetCalc, whois at: <http://logi.cc/linux/>
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tarball
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:25:20 +0100
> An attempt to extract a tar file result in the error message
> " Cannot change ownership uid 500, gid 100"
>
It's a warning, not an error. It should be extracted anyway
Are you on a FAT filesytem trying to extract this tarball?
Eric
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:29:48 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup Laura Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's the vid card. It's that simple.
Use a different video card or use a server with support for your video
card or run in vga mode, or don't use graphics if you can't be bothered
with the above (hey, there's a framebuffer server, no?). What's the deal?
Though I forget what was your card, I seem to have got the impression
that it was a geforce whatever of ultranew vinatge. If so you couldn't
possibly expect your distribution to have support for it, since
the distro will have been older than the card, and they don't have
psychics working for them. Find a driver (i.e. X server) with
support and drop it in. Shrug.
Peter
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From: "Newbie from Win98" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Monitor Resolution & other Windows Equivilent Q's
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:49:45 -0000
Login as root and open a command prompt. Type in: XConfigurator (or
Xconfigurator - not sure about the uppercase C).
This should then take you through an old fashioned setup routine for
configuring your monitor and video card. During this you will be given the
option of choosing the display size - RedHat defaults to 1280x1024. If you
choose something smaller it doesn't shrink everything to fit this, at least
not on my setup. If I choose a smaller than 1280x1024 res'n then when I
move the mouse to the corners the screen moves so I can see the corners -
perhaps I have an option auto-selected for this, I've never noticed it.
When running Xconfigurator you will have the option of selecting multiple
screen resolutions by tagging each one you want. This will allow you to
press Ctrl + Alt + - (or + on the keypad) to rotate through the different
screen resolutions.
There is another file which has all these settings in there, including the
keyboard and mouse settings, I can't remember what it's called - try
searching for something like *config* using the search tools - you'll see
one under the RedHat tools or utilities or system groups from the start
menu. Make sure you do the search from the / directory.
Anyway, near the bottom of this file you will see a text string which has
the various resolutions you selected. These are probably in ascending
order. The first one appears to be the default so if you swap one of the
other ones in the text string to the front then it should be the one that
the PC boots up with.
Regards.
"Allan Jones, ComUnity Systems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:gDOt6.42043$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running Red Hat 7.0 on an AMD 6/300 box with an old-ish monitor
>
> When I go to work with Control Panel or LinuxConfig the screen stretches
> beyond my monitor's ability to access it! (this prevents me from clicking
> things like "ok" at the bottom of the screens, etc.)
>
> I have plugged in a second monitor and find the same thing.
>
> Where can I go to adjust the monitor resolution!!!! (both monitors are
SVGA
> capable)
>
>
> Also - I can't seem to find any FAQ or HOW-TOs on "Windows Equivilent
> commnads"
>
> things like:
>
> "winipcfg" for windows 9X or ipconfig for NT/2K
> disk space usage in Linux?
>
>
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:55:53 +0100
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Steve Withers wrote:
> I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
pine doesn't lack html but in any case email = ascii
Gerald
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:39 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Garms
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
>> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>
>Why do you need this stuff? Do you want to catch the latest trojans?
>
>Use PDF-Documents instead. ps2pdf is a very good tool for that.
What's this ps2pdf thing ? A sort of copyleft Distiller ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:05:09 +1200
Manfred Bartz wrote:
>
> Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> > supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
>
> > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>
> Well, do you need all that stuff? For email???
Yes. I receive several e-mails that have the best and richest content
when I can display HTML. Otherwide they are almost unreadable.
I want the widest possible range of compatibility. The function set
being built into mail these days is moving away from plain text....but
at least following a universal standard (html/java). If the mail client
can't do these things, in the near future it will make mail difficult
from commercial sources and from come government agencies who are
adopting html and java for function-rich information delivery.
> > Is there a good mail client? I use Lotus Notes for my work e-mail via
> > VMWare in a Windows 98 VM. I would prefer to use a Linux mail program
> > for my personal, non-work mail.
>
> My main criteria would be that the client supports both
> mail *and* news.
I don't mind separate programs for mail and news.
I'll find out more about Mahogany. Thanks.
--
Regards,
Steve Withers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user #24688
http://counter.li.org
"First, they ignore you. Then they
laugh at you. Then they fight you.
Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi
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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Telnet and vi
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:20:04 -0500
How can I get a terminal session (e.g. telnet) to my linux box and have
utilities such as vi work well ? Currently, I can
telnet, but cannot remotely use vi or other text utilities. Any
help/suggestions are appreciated. Also, if I want to use ssh
from a windows machine to my Linux box, what is recommended.
Thanks
Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John D. Bruner)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Shut off & power down?
Date: 21 Mar 2001 07:20:25 -0600
Are you using an SMP kernel? By default, powerdown is disabled for
SMP (not MP-safe), but if you only have one CPU you can enable it on
the command line. Easier still, switch to a kernel without SMP
support.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: 21 Mar 2001 13:47:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:39 +0000, John Beardmore allegedly wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Garms
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
>>> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>>
>>Why do you need this stuff? Do you want to catch the latest trojans?
>>
>>Use PDF-Documents instead. ps2pdf is a very good tool for that.
>
>What's this ps2pdf thing ? A sort of copyleft Distiller ?
It is a tool which converts postscript files/documents to pdf. It is
quite usefull as postscript is the standard file format in UNIX for
printable documents, for instance the "print to file" option in
Netscape navigator will result in a postscript file.
Usage: "ps2pdf file(.ps)" which will result in a file.pdf in Adobe's
Portable Document Format.
The disadvantage of postscript is that it is quite large, and it never
made it in the Microsoft world (where incompatible word formats and
bitmap images rule the day). PDF files are generally smaller, and are
now quite accepted on windows platforms.
For the people using (la)tex to make their documents using pdflatex is
recommended though, over using latex->dvips->ps2pdf as that allows for
much more versatility such as clickable hyperlinks within the document
and to outside URL's and those thumbnail pages used for navigation.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:10:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Manfred Bartz wrote:
>>
>> Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
>> > supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
>>
>> > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>>
>> Well, do you need all that stuff? For email???
> Yes. I receive several e-mails that have the best and richest content
> when I can display HTML. Otherwide they are almost unreadable.
So tell them not to send you it. After all, I don't write to you in
swahili, unless I know that you understand swahili. If you insist
on encouraging swahili documents, then send them for translation when
you get them.
> I want the widest possible range of compatibility. The function set
Then please accept the follwing in reverse polish xml (readable on a
swedish language mac) ...
compatibility is something that you encourage via standards. Ascii is
the standard for mail.
> being built into mail these days is moving away from plain text....but
> at least following a universal standard (html/java). If the mail client
It is NOT moving away from plain text! If you want to send a fancy html
message, then send them the link and a passwd and dump the page on your httpd
servers, with an httpaccess file that has that passwd. Then you can
think about what to do with your bytes instead of them.
> can't do these things, in the near future it will make mail difficult
> from commercial sources and from come government agencies who are
> adopting html and java for function-rich information delivery.
There is no function served by html and java that is not covered by
ascii. After all, a human being has to receive it, and he doesn't speak
java or html.
Peter
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From: "Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: how do I get a service to start automatically?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:16:40 GMT
Thanks for the useful info everyone :)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:57:05 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc H.Bruijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Usage: "ps2pdf file(.ps)" which will result in a file.pdf in Adobe's
> Portable Document Format.
> The disadvantage of postscript is that it is quite large, and it never
That's not a disadvantage. It compresses incredibly well .. by about
10:1 with gzip. Whereas pdf is only a proprietary compressed format for
ps, entirely unnecessary ..
> made it in the Microsoft world (where incompatible word formats and
> bitmap images rule the day). PDF files are generally smaller, and are
> now quite accepted on windows platforms.
This is the only advantage.
> For the people using (la)tex to make their documents using pdflatex is
> recommended though, over using latex->dvips->ps2pdf as that allows for
Peter
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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet Sharing
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:20:01 -0500
I can't have the Linux box directly to the net. I am just using a proxy
server for windows. The bad thing about it is, that I need to install
software which takes up system resource, I just wanted to configure the
network settings.
Ingeborg wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:12:56 -0500, "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>I have a Windows98 machine and a Linux machine. My Windows machine is
>>connected to the net, and I want my Linux machine to get on it. How would
I
>>do this?
>>
>maybe this page will help you:
>http://home.ubalt.edu/abento/linux/troubleshooting/network-manual-sygate.ht
ml
>
>Greetings Ingeborg
>
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:27:30 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: php probs
Jonathan Snyder wrote:
>
> Yes, this what I already had uncommented in my httpd.conf file:
>
> # The following is for PHP4 (conficts with PHP/FI, below):
> <IfModule mod_php4.c>
> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php4 .php3 .phtml .php
> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
> </IfModule>
>
> # The following is for PHP3:
> <IfModule mod_php3.c>
> AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3
That makes no sence to me, you define .php3 to be handled with PHP4 above,
now you want to handle .php3 with the PHP3 engine?
> AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps
> </IfModule>
>
> # The following is for PHP/FI (PHP2):
> <IfModule mod_php.c>
> AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml
> </IfModule>
>
> However I still get text to come up instead of having the script run.
Do you load mod_php in httpd-conf or preload via apache start script?
Try setting something like this in your httpd.conf (Where the other modules are
loaded):
LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/libphp4.so
AddModule mod_php4.c
you need something like this for php3 too, but both modules must have been
compiled
with --enable-versioning or PHP3 and PHP4 will not work toogether...
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: Kenneth Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reading and writing to a serial port
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:15:34 GMT
Michael Heiming wrote:
>
> Kenneth Stephen wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've got access to a Cisco switch that I can play around with, and
> > there is a serial port output on the box which is for console output. My
> > Linux box does have a serial port, but I havent got a clue as to what I
> > should do to hook up the switch to my Linux box so that I can use Linux
> > as the console for the switch. How can I solve this?
>
> I would check the manual of your cisco, it should explain what you can do and how
> to connect
> your cisco through serial, may be there is some kind of terminal waiting...
>
> Good luck
>
> Michael Heiming
Michael,
You've misunderstood my question. I know what to do from the
perspective of Cisco. The manual is quite specific on the requirements
for the serial port settings that the console port needs to be connected
to. My question is what do I do on the linux box to see the messages
spewed out from the switch? The Cisco box expects a "dumb terminal" at
the end of the serial port. The Text-Terminal-HOWTO doesnt quite cover
this scenario - and hence my confusion.
Thanks,
Kenneth
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From: "Graeme Muirhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Max_open message
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:37:02 -0000
Can anyone explain this message:
Max_open: fd 43 and old Max_fd 4
It occurs when trying to print via a script - nothing prints so I output
standard output and standard error to a log file.
Thanks
Graeme Muirhead
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:38:58 GMT
Steve Withers wrote:
> Folks....
>
> I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
>
I've been using Netscape too, but every new release seemed to get buggier and
more bloated (e.g. takes ages to start up) so now I had enough...
Since I'm using KDE, I tried KMail for email and KNode for newsgroups.
So, far I'm satisfied with the switch. KMail does support html & java, but
it is turned off by default, you have to change it in the Settings menu if you
need that stuff (although I aggree with others, that email should stay ASCII).
--
Zsolt.
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:36:49 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>compatibility is something that you encourage via standards. Ascii is
>the standard for mail.
Good point. ( For now ! )
>There is no function served by html and java that is not covered by
>ascii. After all, a human being has to receive it, and he doesn't speak
>java or html.
Stupid point. None of the 'extensions' to standard email are intended
to be interpreted directly by people. Plenty of packages do support
html, embedded pictures etc - I don't know about java.
The more mail packages support this stuff, the more pressure there will
be for new standards.
With mime etc, is there even that much need for new standards ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:43:13 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, H.Bruijn
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:39 +0000, John Beardmore allegedly wrote:
>>What's this ps2pdf thing ? A sort of copyleft Distiller ?
>
>It is a tool which converts postscript files/documents to pdf. It is
>quite usefull as postscript is the standard file format in UNIX for
>printable documents, for instance the "print to file" option in
>Netscape navigator will result in a postscript file.
>Usage: "ps2pdf file(.ps)" which will result in a file.pdf in Adobe's
>Portable Document Format.
OK. Sounds handy.
>The disadvantage of postscript is that it is quite large, and it never
>made it in the Microsoft world (where incompatible word formats and
>bitmap images rule the day).
Well, M$ probably didn't want to base their GDI on an Adobe technology.
They could, and most certainly did, make a far bigger balls of it
themselves !
> PDF files are generally smaller, and are
>now quite accepted on windows platforms.
Well yes and no. Quite a few people have never downloaded a 6 or 8 meg
PDF viewer, and far fewer still have forked out money Distiller !
PDF is further loathed as many documents are authored with printing
turned off which makes it hard to read a PDF file in the bath or on the
bus !
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with lan card
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:57:21 -0500
"Andrzej Szczepanik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:99a13i$geu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> GE2000II. I don't know how to make it works. I have redhat distribution
and
> there is driver ne2000 (my card is consistent with it) but it doesn't
work.
> Please, help me to find appropriate driver (in .rpm form). Kernel has been
> changed and compiled.
If the card is NE2000 compatible, and you have the support compiled
in the kernel, you should be fine... what's the problem ?
Have you tried to manually configure the card using ifconfig ?
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Telnet and vi
Date: 21 Mar 2001 15:10:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:20:04 -0500, Marc allegedly wrote:
>How can I get a terminal session (e.g. telnet) to my linux box and have
>utilities such as vi work well ? Currently, I can
>telnet, but cannot remotely use vi or other text utilities. Any
>help/suggestions are appreciated. Also, if I want to use ssh
>from a windows machine to my Linux box, what is recommended.
PuTTY is quite good as a telnet/ssh client. You can find it on it's home
at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ or the usual
windows software depositories as fi tucows. It even supports ANSI colours,
usefull for "ls --color=auto" and syntax highlighting in vim (vi improved).
The reason telnet clients often don't work properly is that they don't
send any, or the wrong information about their capabilities, resulting
in a wrong TERM variable, or being incompatible with the standard
terminal emulators settings. The standard windows telnet client was, last
time I checked, absolutely useless.
Sometimes though, the machine you log into has some wrong settings.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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