Linux-Setup Digest #884, Volume #20              Wed, 21 Mar 01 23:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Question about upgrading kernal (hoffmyster)
  Re: Question about upgrading kernal ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  Linux for Sparc Installation ("James")
  Re: Question about upgrading kernal (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Setting up identd ("Anthony")
  Re: cdrecord problem ("William Jerrell")
  Re: Linux for Sparc Installation ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  Re: Shut off & power down? (Dead Guy)
  Help Needed Please (dr.greenthumb)
  Re: php probs (Jonathan Snyder)
  Re: Telnet and vi (John Thompson)
  Re: info on partition (John Thompson)
  Re: Difficult Linux version/distro question ? ("Duane Healing")
  Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream> (Laura Goodwin)
  Re: Setting up identd ("brainsick")
  Re: Setting up Linux gateway withd Diald (Greg Stucky)
  Re: Linux in NT/2000 domain ("Allex Juang")
  Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream> ("Thumper")
  Re: Setting up identd (David Efflandt)

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From: hoffmyster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question about upgrading kernal
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:12:24 -0500

I'm pretty new to Linux so please bear with me.

I am using RH5.2 with kernal 2.2.14.

Can anyone please tell me if it is worth my while to upgrade to 2.4.2??

I have already tried to do this and I am running into difficulty.

It appears that possibly I don't have the latest modutils, binutils,
etc.

I do have according to the changes file the correct versions of gcc and
make.

Has anyone out there successfully upgraded from pre 2.2.x to 2.4.2?

If so did you have to do anything beyond just configuring, compiling and
installing?

Thanks,

RLH


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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading kernal
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:23:26 -0500

Just download RH 7.0. Thats the best way.

hoffmyster wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm pretty new to Linux so please bear with me.
>
>I am using RH5.2 with kernal 2.2.14.
>
>Can anyone please tell me if it is worth my while to upgrade to 2.4.2??
>
>I have already tried to do this and I am running into difficulty.
>
>It appears that possibly I don't have the latest modutils, binutils,
>etc.
>
>I do have according to the changes file the correct versions of gcc and
>make.
>
>Has anyone out there successfully upgraded from pre 2.2.x to 2.4.2?
>
>If so did you have to do anything beyond just configuring, compiling and
>installing?
>
>Thanks,
>
>RLH
>



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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux for Sparc Installation
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:51:20 -0400

Hi,

I've downloaded the RedHat 6.2 for Sparc to my Windows workstation.  How can
I burn a bootable CDR for use in the installation of my SS1000E server?  I
don't have a floppy drive in it so CD seems to be my only choice.  Can
someone let me know if there are any tools that will work under Win98 to
burn the Linux CD install/boot image to a CDR.  Thanks.

James Rozee
http://www.gdse.com/




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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:46:57 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading kernal

"" wrote:
> 
> Just download RH 7.0. Thats the best way.

I would although suggest to get a new distro, since upgrading
everything is not how someone should start his Linux experience,
on the other hand he would learn much...

But I would suggest to actually buy the distro of your choice.

- As newbie the printed docs/books you get with the distro will be very helpful.

- Most distros pay developer, that they can work more or less full time on their
Linux projects, this is something we should consider and encourage by ordering,
if possible online from the distros www site.

Michael Heiming

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From: "Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Setting up identd
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:47:17 GMT

I've been running it manually, although I did try inetd with similar
results.  Here's what the inetd entry looked like when I was using it:

ident    stream    tcp    wait    sys    /usr/sbin/identd
   in.identd -w -t120

I am relatively new to linux, so I don't know if my inetd entry was
correct.



"maxmutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Anthony wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to run set up an ident server in mandrake 7.2, but I'm
> > having some problems.  With identd running, a remote ident request
> > returns:
> >
> > 123 , 113 : ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR
> >
> > Can anyone help me troubleshoot this error?  Also, should identd
be
> > running from inetd?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Anthony
>
>
> identd is normally run from inetd.
>
> what is the config entry for identd in inet.config?


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From: "William Jerrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord problem
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:55:19 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom
Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:43:44 GMT, jerrell3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>>Ex:# cdrecord -v dev=1,0,0 -data progeny-rc1-i386-1.iso
> 
> How did you create progeny-rc1-i386-1.iso? Have you tried to verify it
> using a loopback filesystem? It's described in the CD-Writing-HOWTO.


I down loaded the iso off of thier site.
I was able mount the file with the loopback filesystem. (I did this to
test the file before I tried to burn it)
This was the first file I tried to burn with cdrecord, but I'm getting the
same error with all other files as well.

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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux for Sparc Installation
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:55:26 -0500

You need to get the ISO image. And when you burn it using your CD burner,
make sure you select a MODE called ISO.

James wrote in message ...
>Hi,
>
>I've downloaded the RedHat 6.2 for Sparc to my Windows workstation.  How
can
>I burn a bootable CDR for use in the installation of my SS1000E server?  I
>don't have a floppy drive in it so CD seems to be my only choice.  Can
>someone let me know if there are any tools that will work under Win98 to
>burn the Linux CD install/boot image to a CDR.  Thanks.
>
>James Rozee
>http://www.gdse.com/
>
>
>



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From: Dead Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Shut off & power down?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:03:26 +0000

Make sure the apm daemon is installed and running. That does it on my
SuSe 7.1.

Dead Guy.

Bruce Pennypacker wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the process of testing a new server for my company that is based on
> an Intel L440GX+ motherboard.  It came installed with Windows 2000, and when
> we tell Windows to shut down it would power down the server.  When I
> installed RedHat Linux 6.2 & the 2.4.1 kernel and tried to use either
> /sbin/poweroff or /sbin/shutdown -p it would shut down linux but it never
> powers down the server.  I've gone through all the BIOS settings I can think
> of and ensured that APM is compiled into the kernel.  What am I missing?
> What do I need to do to get linux to power the machine down on shutdown?  We
> need this because we have a few dozen linux systems in our server room and
> need to have them power down automatically in the event of a power failure
> so our UPS can keep critical systems up as long as possible.
> 
> Two people I work with who run linux at home say they had no problem getting
> linux to power their machines down and can't think of why it's not working
> for our company servers...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Bruce

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dr.greenthumb)
Subject: Help Needed Please
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:02:28 GMT

I have nstalled Red Hat 6.0 to dual boot with WIN2K Pro.
I have no problems connecting The WIN2K to @Home statically or DHCP.
I know that RH 6.0 does have a DHCP problem so i was trying to connect
statically, with no luck! I have a 3Com 3c509 ehternet adapter.
I have the following through CLI
/etc/sysconfig/network..with the correct network settings
"Networking=yes"
"forward_ipv4=false"
"hostname=cxxxxxx-a
"domain name=lvrmr1.sfba.home.com
"gateway=24.x.x.x
"gateway dev=eth0
I have configured the correct hostname in
/etc/hostname
I have the correct info in the 
/etc/hosts
and i have the DNS properly set in the 
/etc/resolve.conf file.

Obviously i can ping the loopback 127.0.0.1 and my own IP address.
any help will be very gratefull.

Thanks
Dr.Greenthumb

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From: Jonathan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: php probs
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:09:55 -0500

ok, i got too frustrated with redhat's install and downloaded the latest
version from www.php.net, installed it, and now it works

thanks for trying to help,
jon

Jonathan Snyder wrote:

> I have just done a fresh install of Redhat 7 and made sure I put in the
> following modules:
>
> php
> php-imap
> mod_php
> php_mysql
> mysql
> mysql-server
>
> My question is that when I try to browse a file called test.php3
> containg just :   <?php phpinfo(); ?>
> I get the text instead of server output.  What do I need to change in my
> httpd.conf file to tell the server to execute files with php
> extensions.  I tried randomly adding:  AddHandler php-script .php .php3
> .php4 .phtml      to my httpd.conf file, but to no avail.  I also made
> sure that all lines pertinent to php in my httpd.conf file were
> uncommented.
>
> thanks,
> jon


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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet and vi
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:13:00 -0600

Marc wrote:
 
> How can I get a terminal session (e.g. telnet) to my linux box and have
> utilities such as vi work well ?  Currently, I can
> telnet, but cannot remotely use vi or other text utilities.  Any
> help/suggestions are appreciated.  

Make sure the TERM variiable on your linux machine is set to the
same type of terminal as your telnet client expects.  IIRC, the
Windows telnet client has a pretty limited selection of terminal
emulations, but at least one of them, eg vt100 or the like, ought
to be available in linux as well.

> Also, if I want to use ssh
> from a windows machine to my Linux box, what is recommended.

Putty seems to be a popular Win32 ssh client.

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: info on partition
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:20:34 -0600

Marco Mangiante wrote:

> I have in C:\ the winme os, in D:\ various data, then with partition magic 6
> I created E:\ partition: this partition is extended and is ext2. I can
> install on it Linux or I must create a primary partition. 

Only Microsoft operating systems are limited to booting from
primary partitions. Linux will have no problem booting from an
extended partition.

> I don't want use lilo. 

Why not?  Even if you use a different boot manager (eg
PowerQuest's Boot Magic, for example) to select between Windows
and linux, you'll still want to use LILO on the linux partition's
boot record.  Otherwise you may run into problems if/when you
compile a kernel and find it doesn't boot.

> After I must create the swap partition: what is the filesystem that i
> must choise.

The swap partition is type 82.  If you're using Partition Magic
to create the partitions there is an option to creater a "linux
swap" filesystem when you create a new partition.

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Difficult Linux version/distro question ?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:51:41 -0800

Why... Debian on both, of course :^)

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "peter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok guys, I posted a msg. about memory, etc and Linux.  Now, I've gotten
> another machine with 32 megs in it, BUT instead of having two pentium
> system with 32 megs, I'm going to put 48 megs in one and 16 in the
> other. So, the big question is, what distro/version should I run in each
> system ?  I have Red Hat  6.1 and Mandrake 7.1 laying around.  I'll pick
> up a new version, if you think the latest version are better.
> My systems break down like this:
> Socket 7, Cyrix p166, 48 megs (6 eight meg simms, strange MB), S3 trio
> video card, 3 gig HD, 4X cd-rom, network card, floppy  Socket 5, Intel
> P100, 16 megs (4 four meg simms), trident 4 meg card, no HD yet (may use
> two 200 meg drives), no cd-rom (will hook one up for the install, then
> disconnect it), network card, floppy.  I would like to run X-windows on
> the 48 megs system, and turn 16 meg, P 100 into a proxy,firewall (no
> X-windows here).  So, maybe I should run mandrake 7.1 on the 48 megs
> system (KDE ?) and RH 6.1 on the 16 meg system ?
> What do you think ?
> As far as what I'll be doing on the 48 megs system, just learning about
> linux, programming, and the 16 meg machine will be a firewall/proxy/web
> server
> Over time,  I would like to use Linux  more and more, maybe it will
> become my main system.
> Peter

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From: Laura Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:04:13 -0500

Torsten Clay wrote:
> 
> >I added the second drive specifically for Linux today.  I was all
> >excited about a fresh install.  Unfortunately, when I installed Mandrake
> >7.1 today (the same CD that never failed before) I get as far as testing
> 
> The easiest fix is probably to try Mandrake 7.2 instead of 7.1. 

Thanks, I got a copy.

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From: "brainsick" <brn(nospam)[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Setting up identd
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:17:49 GMT

> I'm trying to run set up an ident server in mandrake 7.2, but I'm
> having some problems.  With identd running, a remote ident request
> returns:
>
> 123 , 113 : ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR
>
> Can anyone help me troubleshoot this error?  Also, should identd be
> running from inetd?

I'm also having problems running identd in Mandrake 7.2.

[brnsck@surge brnsck]$ rpm -qa | grep pidentd
pidentd-3.0.11-6mdk

[brnsck@surge brnsck]$ ps aux | grep identd
nobody   19094  0.0  0.2  1244  632 ?        S    Mar10   0:00 identd -e -o
nobody   19095  0.0  0.2  1244  632 ?        S    Mar10   0:00 identd -e -o
nobody   19096  0.0  0.2  1244  632 ?        S    Mar10   0:00 identd -e -o
nobody   19097  0.0  0.2  1244  632 ?        S    Mar10   0:00 identd -e -o
nobody   19098  0.0  0.2  1244  632 ?        S    Mar10   0:00 identd -e -o

I'm using a Mandrake-supplied RPM, and it's running, but when I connect to
IRC (from the box), my host still shows up with the ~ in the hostmask.
Nothing shows up in the /var/log/messages.  What am I missing?

Thanks,

brainsick



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Stucky)
Subject: Re: Setting up Linux gateway withd Diald
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:26:12 GMT

removing authorization from the ppp settings fixed the hang up
problem.

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 03:15:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I am trying to setup a gateway to the internet using linux.  I
>currently have two Linux servers running.  One serves as a mail and
>DNS server and the other as a firewall and internet gateway.  they are
>attached to a Novell 4.11 network using tcp/ip.  I currently have this
>setup working with RedHat 6.2.  
>
>I am trying to gateway/firewall to RedHat 7  using Diald version
>0.99.1 release 2.  I can not seem to get this new server to connect to
>the internet.  When I use a Windows PC on the network to access the
>Internet I can get diald to dial out but the connection is immediately
>dropped.  If I use lynx on the linux server I just get a message
>saying that the host is unreachable, it does not dial out and try to
>connect.  
>
>I have connected to my ISP using dip.  After I have entered mode ppp
>and returend to the command prompt i try to start lynx and connect to
>the internet.  Usualy I lose the connection before I can start lynx
>and when I get it started in time I still cannot connect.   
>
>I can ping servers and PC's my network and do DNS lookups of the local
>PC's I just cannot go outside my lan.   
>
>I would appreciate any suggestions.  I am at a loss as to what I have
>missed or misconfigured.  
>
>Thanks 
>Greg Stucky
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Allex Juang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux in NT/2000 domain
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:50 +0800
Reply-To: "Allex Juang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
news:999ora$npo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Normal nameserver is fine.
> > My linux is also Redhat, pump works fine.
> > While connecting to internet, no problem found.
> > But it just cannot get intranet hosts by name (should be NetBios name)
>
> nslookup hostname.domainname fails?

Yes. Since hostname.domainname does not exist outside.

> > except by IP.
> > So, is there any way to solve it??
>
> check what is in your /etc/resolv.conf
> Are the nameservers listed that should resolv those intranet names?

Nameserver information retrieved from DHCP server
are for INTERNET use. No intranet name server!
It seemed that intranet name service is by NetBIOS.

> Eric
>




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From: "Thumper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:45:59 GMT

"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.setup Laura Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> >> Find a driver (i.e. X server) with support and drop it in. Shrug.
>
> > You make it sound so easy.  This is one reason why some people say Linux
> > sucks, Peter: because they have been led to believe that they will be
> > able to used the OS if they simply install it and start using it, and
> > it's not really that easy, Peter.
>
> It really is logical:
>
> 0) find driver   (how?)
> 1) get driver    (ftp or http)
> 2) install it    (read the README and do what it says)
> 3) configure it  (edit your XF86COnfig as per the nice instructions)
> 4) run it        (/usr/X11R6/bin/X, or use startx ..)
>
> Step 0 is the hurdle for you. You don't know what you're looking for or
> where to look. For that you should ask here.
>
> Peter

It goes a little farther than that I think Peter. People are making an
effort to switch to Linux, and instead of doing everything that can be done
to help, people get responses like "RTFM", or $man <subject>. Like it or
not, the manual is not the answer to everything. It can be difficult to
understand, even by those of us that have used Linux. For someone that is
just starting, the stuff reads like Greek. For those that use the old
standard, $man <whatever>, remember that it also does not contain all the
answers.

Making the switch to an entirely different type of OS is a daunting task.
Yes people have become coddled with MS stuff. But more and more people are
seeing that there is an alternative out there, and are genuinely trying to
make the switch. But with answers like the above, and even scarier, things
like "You're going to have to recompile the kernel", people just bag it and
go back what they know. To those of us that have done it, a kernel recompile
is no big deal. We have to remember though, that we were newbies at one time
too, and didn't have all the answers.

Now me, I'm an obstinate SOB, and those type answers don't deter me from
finding the answers I am looking for. Yes, the questions have been asked a
million times, and will probably be asked a million more. If that annoys
you, well stay out of the ng then. The new users are better served by those
that actually want to help. This was not directed at you personally Peter.
We just have to remember that not eveyone has our knowledge of Linux.

--
Thumper
Kill da munge to reply by email.
Registered Linux user #209449 - Machine registration #97328



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Setting up identd
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:07:59 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:47:17 GMT, Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been running it manually, although I did try inetd with similar
>results.  Here's what the inetd entry looked like when I was using it:
>
>ident    stream    tcp    wait    sys    /usr/sbin/identd
>   in.identd -w -t120

In Mdk 7.0 mine is this [I removed the default -e (UNKNOWN OS) since that
prevented irc from accepting it]:

auth  stream  tcp  nowait   nobody   /usr/sbin/in.identd in.identd -l

>> > I'm trying to run set up an ident server in mandrake 7.2, but I'm
>> > having some problems.  With identd running, a remote ident request
>> > returns:
>> >
>> > 123 , 113 : ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR
>> >
>> > Can anyone help me troubleshoot this error?  Also, should identd
>be
>> > running from inetd?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Anthony
>>
>>
>> identd is normally run from inetd.
>>
>> what is the config entry for identd in inet.config?
>


-- 
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