Linux-Setup Digest #903, Volume #20 Sat, 24 Mar 01 22:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream> (Laura Goodwin)
problems configuring X with diamond viper 2 videocard (Stefan)
Re: Mounting a floppy... (Conrad Newton)
Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat??? (Dave Shiels)
Re: Suse 7.1 Security Question (Conrad Newton)
How to set up a printer? ("Taavi Hein")
LILO vs. loadlin ("Taavi Hein")
Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat??? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Installing Linux on a old 486 (Ivory Bones)
Re: SB Live Value PCI - No CD Audio? (Toni Ard)
save yorself ("Ron Nicholls")
HELP HELP HELP PLEASE HELP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
network printing via Win98 prob (shaughn b)
Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat??? (Michael Perry)
Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
HP 8160, SuSE 7.0, and no USB? ("Lionel B. Dyck")
Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
repartitioning fat32 partitions (Jon)
mouse + video card with RH 7.0 and gnome help (c)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Charlie Ebert)
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From: Laura Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: Linux <scream>Frustration!</scream>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:06:37 -0500
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> You don't have to configure any hardware by hand when compiling the
> kernel. Choose some large set of modules, compile them, then whenever
> you feel like it, load a driver that appeals to you.
How?
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From: Stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems configuring X with diamond viper 2 videocard
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:17:07 +0100
Help!!
I am installing X-server on a pc with a diamond viper 2 videocard,
after starting my screen looks good. At least until all windows
are loaded. Now when I move a window, my screen becomes one big mess!
Can anyone who setup this card before send me his XF86Config file or
tell me what went wrong?
I tried to manually add the card, but the S3 Savage2000 is not in the
list so I chose the one from the Stealth III. The refresh rates are
manually entered acoording to the specifications of the manufacturer.
Thanxx
Stefan
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From: Conrad Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Mounting a floppy...
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:18:14 GMT
Allan wrote:
> Theoretical Question:
> If I already have a /mnt/cdrom/ and a /mnt/floppy/ directory, WHY do
> I have to go and manually MOUNT them for them to work? (Wouldn't you think
> the installation install it?)
>
> Practical Question:
> I read how to mount my CDROM from my RedHat Reference book. But how do I
> mount my floppy? I can't find the floppy in the /dev/ directory. I don't
> know any great command prompt command to find it. HELP! Where is the floppy
> located in the directory tree? Do I need the "iso..." file system command as
> in the CD ROM?...
>
> - Allan
http://home.world-online.no/~ackleppe/newton/redhat6/node30.html
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From: Dave Shiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat???
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:34:43 GMT
Nothing would suprise me as IBM is now a big supporter of Readhat.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> �crivait/wrote:
>
> >This is very bad. The motive is clear .. they want to continue to be
> >able to steal stuff of of red hat.
>
> I'm not sure. I would rather think that Red Hat and Mandrake are
> synched on the same compiler.
>
> >The link you quote is sickening in its mendacity. It's been written by
> >a lying publicity person who could say anything and make it sound
> >positive.
>
> I definitly stinks. MandrakeExpert pay-as-you learn scheme stinks too.
> Mandrake's backed by AXA and... who knows who? Maybe Microsoft.
>
> Keep your hands clean. Go for Debian!
>
> Zhero Man
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From: Conrad Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Suse 7.1 Security Question
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:32:47 GMT
Robert Pomerenk wrote:
> I am planning on installing Suse 7.1 on my desktop. I will be accessing the
> Internet by cable modem. My question is what do I need to do to insure that
> I have a secure installation.
>
> Any suggestions for a newbie would be appreciated.
I found these to be interesting:
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/colsfaq.html
http://www.enteract.com/~lspitz/linux.html
http://www.fish.com/security/admin-guide-to-cracking.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/lasg/
http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/ls_quickref/
Conrad
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From: "Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to set up a printer?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:23:21 +0200
What is the most suitable configuration for "Xerox DocuPrint C6" printer
(there isn't an exact filter in printtool dialog), I run RH7.
--
Taavi Hein
Registered Linux user #209546
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: LILO vs. loadlin
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:45:50 +0200
#the questions are marked with '***' (three asterisks)
#the other stuff is here only to make the message longer ;)
My computer was/is running W98SE (oem), and I installed RH7 on top of it,
conf. as follows:
/dev/hda1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
/dev/hdb -- CDROM -- iso*
/dev/hdc1 -- Linux -- ext2fs -- 20GB
/dev/hdd5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
+swap
When I started the install, I switched drives for BIOS to boot to Linux (on
/dev/hda - the only option available - referred to as drive C: in BIOS) ,
where I planned to install LILO(for more information look at the table
below) and everything worked fine, until I tried LILO to boot W98, then it
hanged, saying booting windows...
The trouble seemed to be, that W98 would only boot as /dev/hda (primary
master), so I switched the drives back. Now, not wanting to install LILO in
/dev/hda (it being a windoze drive and all), I set up W98 to display boot
menu with choices, which OS to boot - using loadlin.exe to boot Linux.
Command to invoke Linux is as follows: "shell=c:\loadlin\loadlin.exe
c:\loadlin\vmlinuz2 mem=128M root=/dev/hdc1 ro"
*** The questions are: "If I installed LILO on /dev/hdc1 (currently on
/dev/hdc (MBR) as installed since the drive was /dev/hda), booted to Linux
using loadlin.exe, would it first run LILO (for kernel testing etc.) and use
the kernel image defined there, or would it still use the kernel image on
/dev/hda1 (W98 drive - for loadlin.exe to find it)? Would it be worth the
hassle, or should I just copy a new compiled kernel image to the appropriate
directory on /dev/hda1 and rewrite the startup menu?"
TABLE1:
"which drives were where" aka 'changelog'
===
at first i had only w98
---
/dev/hda1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
/dev/hdd -- CDROM -- iso*
/dev/hdc5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
===
bought a hd and installed rh7
---
/dev/hda1 -- Linux -- ext2fs -- 20GB
/dev/hdb5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
/dev/hdc1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
/dev/hdd -- CDROM -- iso*
+swap
===
switched the drives back
---
/dev/hda1 -- W98 -- fat32 -- 10GB
/dev/hdb -- CDROM -- iso*
/dev/hdc1 -- Linux -- ext2fs -- 20GB
/dev/hdd5 -- file archive -- fat32 -- 2GB
+swap
--
Taavi Hein
Registered Linux user #209546
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat???
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Mar 2001 20:00:02 -0500
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:45:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) �crivait/wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:14:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Keep your hands clean. Go for Debian!
>>>
>>
>>No thanks. Not to start a flame war, but I would never consider
>>changing to Debian. Why? Certainly not for technical reasons. I am
>>sure it is a great distro. Certainly has some great people involved,
>>and some great ideas behind it. But it also has the 'my shit doesn't
>>stink and yours does' crowd too. And a number of FUD artists as well,
>>who spend oh so much time knocking someone else down, just to make
>>themselves look taller.
>
>What if you ignore all this?
Well, it's kinda hard because there is so much of it. There seems to be
a correlary to Godwins law: if any Linux related thread on usenet goes
on long enough, some Debian user will start trashing other distros and
proclaiming that there is but one true distro, and it's name is Debian.
It is a given.
>I'd rather have it than Mandrake's stupid
>>�hear my bells ring� gingles while they're branching off.
Fine, use whatever float yours boat. I am all for that.
What floats my boat most is *Linux*, and that Linux is so infinitley
customizable. If I don't like some aspect, I change it at MY will. I am
in control and not MS, not Redhat, not the Debian maintainers, or anyone
else. It is Linux that allows me this. The distro is secondary.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a old 486
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivory Bones)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:02:24 GMT
"Ulf Bengtner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<Kc9t6.477$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I'm a newbie too.
I got an old 486 with 24MB RAM and a 800+ hard disk. I installed RedHat 7.0
with few problems, but I did have to omit all but the basic GNOME packages
to make it fit. After installation, I have about 200Mb left on the disk to
play with. Some of the packages not originally installed can now be added.
The installation most definitely does not require a Pentium class
processor.
Don
>I've tried to install Linux on a couple of old 486:s but have not
>succeded.
>(I'm a newbie on Linux but worked with software development for 20
>years).
>
>
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Subject: Re: SB Live Value PCI - No CD Audio?
From: Toni Ard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:03:39 GMT
Hiya!
>>>>> "Keeper" == Keeper of the Key to Time <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
Keeper> Well... I guess I just solved my silly problem --
Keeper> swapping the plugs did it. :-p Now I get my lovely CD
Keeper> audio... and if for some reason I want to listen to
Keeper> all-but-CD-audio, I can use the headphones. Interesting... all
Keeper> those damn plugs on there, I dunno what half of them are for,
Keeper> anyway. :)
[...]
Yep, that's the solution. The green jack is for _front_ audio, the black
jack is for _rear_ audio and the red jack is for microphone input. It does
say this in the PDF manual, but you have to dig. It's not really that
obvious. Apparently the CD audio doesn't get sent to the rear speakers.
--
Toni Ard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for PGP key. "Wouldn't you rather be
involved in a series of colorful time-wasting trends?" -- Frank Zappa
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From: "Ron Nicholls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: save yorself
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:08:06 +1000
I get a message from xmms when logging off
" no response from save yourself command"
maybe slow -etc----
Can I cure this
--
-
-
Regards
RonN
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP HELP HELP PLEASE HELP
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:07:07 GMT
I am having a problem getting my password file to synchronize with
samba. I can input users into the main user menu but they don't sync
with samba. Then I manually input users into smbpasswd [that works
fine] but that screws up my passwd and or user file and I'm no longer
able to add new users.
Any ideas about how to fix this or what to diffrently when i
re-install
thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: shaughn b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: network printing via Win98 prob
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:07:37 -0600
I'm trying to print from my Linux box to a printer connected to a
Windows 98 machine. The printer is an HP Deskjet and is supported by a
ghostscript driver.
I'm using Suse 7.0 and Samba 2.0.7. I have used lprsetup to configure
apsfilter and printcap. I have a remote queue defined, and an
apsfilter. When I print, all seems to go well, except the job stalls in
the queue with the message...
client: waiting for printserver to come up
I don't understand this.
Any ideas?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat???
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:54:22 -0000
On 24 Mar 2001 20:00:02 -0500, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:45:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) �crivait/wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:14:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Keep your hands clean. Go for Debian!
>>>>
>>>
>>>No thanks. Not to start a flame war, but I would never consider
>>>changing to Debian. Why? Certainly not for technical reasons. I am
>>>sure it is a great distro. Certainly has some great people involved,
>>>and some great ideas behind it. But it also has the 'my shit doesn't
>>>stink and yours does' crowd too. And a number of FUD artists as well,
>>>who spend oh so much time knocking someone else down, just to make
>>>themselves look taller.
>>
>>What if you ignore all this?
>
>Well, it's kinda hard because there is so much of it. There seems to be
>a correlary to Godwins law: if any Linux related thread on usenet goes
>on long enough, some Debian user will start trashing other distros and
>proclaiming that there is but one true distro, and it's name is Debian.
>It is a given.
>
>>I'd rather have it than Mandrake's stupid
>>>�hear my bells ring� gingles while they're branching off.
>
>Fine, use whatever float yours boat. I am all for that.
>
>What floats my boat most is *Linux*, and that Linux is so infinitley
>customizable. If I don't like some aspect, I change it at MY will. I am
>in control and not MS, not Redhat, not the Debian maintainers, or anyone
>else. It is Linux that allows me this. The distro is secondary.
>
>--
>Hal B
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>--
Always. The original question was what is best. Everyone can answer some
way and point their favorite. Linux is linux. I prefer debian; I use
redhat at work sometimes. When I'm at work, I cannot wait to get home. Its
not that redhat is bad. Its all linux. My gut feel is that we all have our
priorities. Thats fine. Some of us like debian, some like redhat.
All I am saying is that it is Linux and we all use it. Whether its this or
that. But I got to say with a minor advocacy hat on... One person remarked
to me on irc once, "sure, people will use this or that distribution for a
long time or a short time. Sooner or later they will get tired of those
bells and whistles. Then there is debian for them."
People start out with a distribution of LInux but they end up with Linux.
My take is that the distribution ceases to matter as you enfuse it with your
individuality. Just as sure as you give the system a unique name, you will
build the distribution to suit your needs and make it unique. You can make
any of them unique. As you so aptly put, its Linux.
Best thing is enjoy, be challenged, walk your true path.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat???
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:01:33 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) �crivait/wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:45:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) �crivait/wrote:
>>
>>>And a number of FUD artists as well,
>>>who spend oh so much time knocking someone else down, just to make
>>>themselves look taller.
>>
>>What if you ignore all this?
>
>Well, it's kinda hard because there is so much of it.
Come on! Go for Progeny then! Their rc is already out and I doubt Ian
Murdoch is the kind to hone his ax against other distros.
>That there is but one true distro, and it's name is Debian.
I think most Debian users will agree Slackware may also claim the
title. The problem is I wouldn't recommand Slackware to somebody who's
contemplating using Red Hat. What's the common point? They're not
companies disturdeb by a craving for money. I wonder if Murdock will
avoid the pitfalls.
>>I'd rather have it than Mandrake's stupid
>>>�hear my bells ring� gingles while they're branching off.
>
>Fine, use whatever float yours boat. I am all for that.
>
>What floats my boat most is *Linux*, and that Linux is so infinitley
>customizable. If I don't like some aspect, I change it at MY will. I am
>in control and not MS, not Redhat, not the Debian maintainers, or anyone
>else. It is Linux that allows me this. The distro is secondary.
Not exactly so to me. When I see Red Hat branching off with a new
compiler and IBM backing mainly Red Hat, I'd rather stay away. Linux
original spirit is definitely degenerating.
Zhero Man
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From: "Lionel B. Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP 8160, SuSE 7.0, and no USB?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:59:02 -0800
I have an HP Pavilion 8160 and when I boot SuSE 7.0 Linux I have no USB. I
get a message that USB is not active (or words to that affect) and that
there might be a BIOS setting (which I can not find).
????
--
=================
Lionel B. Dyck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: SuSe Linux 7.2 or Redhat???
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:05:56 GMT
Dave Shiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> �crivait/wrote:
>Nothing would suprise me as IBM is now a big supporter of Readhat.
That's what I just said in the message I've sent a minute ago! But it
seems some people just refuse to care about this.
Spirit means someting to me.
Zhero Man
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From: Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: repartitioning fat32 partitions
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:30:17 GMT
I installed Red Hat 7.0 recently and enjoyed the smooth installation.
After reading many help documents I utilized linuxconf to mount my
secondary drive which is fat32. Before this it was used for my windows
backup and data disk. Information on it is very important.
Unfortunately the two 4G fat32 partitions are being filled. I need to
remove all fat partitions and create a single disk partition. But I
need to save the data!!! This is a 16G hard drive with two nearly full
partitions and one 1/4 full. Any suggestions??
Most likely it would be best if the drive was one partition primary
partition of 16G in size. I would rather not buy another drive yet.
Parted is installed and seems to be working well. I also attempted to
install disk drake multiple times unsuccessfully. Apparently it is
tightly integrated in the mandrake operating system now. Unless I can
find the source or a clean rpm I doubt diskdrake will install on a Red
Hat machine.
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From: c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mouse + video card with RH 7.0 and gnome help
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:43:17 -0800
I have RH 7.0 with a serial mouse and a Creative Blaster video card (A
Nvidia Riva TNT 2 card model 64) and GNOME and I am having these 2
problems:
1. I cannot get the mouse to do anything. I boot straight into GNOME,
please help, what do I need to do and how do I do it?
2. The mouse pointer is a 1 inch square white block. I choose the Riva
TNT 2 driver during installation. What/how do I fix this?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:52:08 GMT
In article <99j7co$73g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hong wrote:
>peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>I've heard great things about the new Suse distro., but I was told by
>>someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work. At work
>>we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
>>the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
>
> In my opinion, if you are comparing between Red Hat/Mandrake to
>SuSE, stay with Red Hat/Mandrake. SuSE has recently been becoming more of
>a commercial distribution with little willingness to put out any GPL'ed
>versions of their version of Linux. The only ISO they have available for
>anyone to download is a live evaluation one, meaning, you boot into Linux
>from the CDROM, but you can't actually install it into your computer.
> That is not to say that it is a bad distribution, it is in fact
>quite good. However, Red Hat and Mandrake both still release GPL'ed
>versions of their distributions that one can install into their machines.
>If you are already familiar with Red Hat/Mandrake, then there is little
>reason to go with SuSE.
>
I've had the opportunity to use Suse 7.1 and I think it's a fine
desktop distribution. I believe they've come to a point in time
where as a server application it's lacking.
Suse doesn't have such features like PERL-SSL so you can run
a secure WEBMIN. In fact they don't even have WEBMIN.
They don't have telnet-ssl either.
They do have ssh.
And their KDE2 desktop is very lavish with just ton's of userland
applications, a built in piano... Very nice...
It's definitely a USERS/WORKSTATION OS. Does a very good job of
that.
I'm using Debian which is the only OS which has these missing features
stock. Telnet-ssl, PERL-SSL, so on...
Debian is also a much better development environment as they fully
support PERL, PYTHON, and over 1/2 dozen compilers for different
languages.
Debian is going to have native REISER support with the next release
along with the 2.4 kernel.
The only thing I would like Debian to include in their distribution
is the various userland features like those different skins for XMMS
or Suse's 96 different desktop themes for each of it's windows manager
or even the complete set of screen savers.
Debian is VERY capable in the services area. It beats Suse as of right now.
But to make them equally GOOD in both worlds they need some more userland
features as well.
The other things with disturb me about Suse server side is the location
of the HTTPD and FTP directories in /usr/local...
Debian has their HTTPD in /var/www and the ftp is in a home directory.
I believe Redhat is the same.
I don't like having these kinds of directories in /usr/local.
I also conducted a test on a 486 machine with 5 megs of ram and found
out that Suse 7.1 would not install on this system, even with the
necessary swap space to make it above 16 megs. Debian on the other
hand would install on this computer with no trouble at all.
I believe slackware and Debian are the only two OS's left which continue
to support older hardware.
One of the kings of running Linux is it's support of older hardware.
After having spent a week of comparing the two OS's, I'm even more
committed toward Debian than ever before. Debian 2.2R2 with the 2.2.18
kernel alongside Suse 7.1 with the 2.4.0 kernel on identical PC's proved
to me that the XENGINE scores were in Debian's favor. File performance,
net performance, were so close between the two systems you wonder where
the performance went with their 2.4.0 kernel?
The final thing to be said in favor of Debian is it's superior support
across different kinds of computers. Debian covers over a dozen
PC's and mainframe computers. Suse supports 2 or 3 kinds of PC's.
As a user, I was tempted with Suse's latest KDE2 desktop and features.
But I have to remember that in just a short month or two, Debian will
release Woody and all these features will be there also. They just
won't have 96 different desktop skins to choose from.
Something to think about.
Charlie
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