Linux-Setup Digest #930, Volume #20 Tue, 27 Mar 01 22:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version ("Mike Ruskai")
Re: Why people are doing that? (Ferdinand Badescu)
Re: mem and swap problem (Ryengoth)
Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version (Darin Johnson)
11M wireless Driver can't work under redhat7.0 ("stephen")
Re: mem and swap problem (Basil Chupin)
Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0 (Christopher W.
Aiken)
Re: 11M wireless Driver can't work under redhat7.0 (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Mouse Sensitivity (Richard Evans)
HELP ME!: Aiptek WEBCAM controls dont't work under Linux (OV511+/OV7620 (CYBERYOGI
=CO= Windler)
Re: Need easiest way to upgrade kernel on RH7 (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: RedHat 6.2 or 7.0 (E J)
NTP HowTo ("SS")
Delayed systerm logger at start ups ("Haxor")
Display problem (David)
Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0 (Dances With Crows)
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From: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:11:03 GMT
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:00:41 -0500, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, "Mike Ruskai"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for an actual explanation. I never would have guessed that
>> LILO ignores the file system. Not exactly a good design.
>
>LILO runs just after the BIOS; it's in the Master Boot Record (MBR). It
>runs before Linux, DOS, Windows, or anything else is installed.
>
>LILO *must* ignore the file system, since there's nothing running that
>can read a file system yet.
See my other message for how OS/2 boots. It's not necessary to load a
full file system driver.
>It's not clear to me if you've solved your problem yet; if not, make
>sure your new kernel is in /boot, modify /etc/lilo.conf as necessary to
>point to your new kernel, and run /sbin/lilo to re-install LILO.
LILO ignoring the file system was the problem. After correcting that, all
is working fine.
--
- Mike
Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
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From: Ferdinand Badescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why people are doing that?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:34:46 -0800
"B.R. Ivy" wrote:
> I use Linux for the same reason people climb mountains; because it is fun,
> and it is a challenge. Most people don't have the time, patience, or the
> intellectual resources to understand Linux. It is called Win-"doze" for a
> reason. I use both OS's but I prefer Linux.
This is a long shot, and it can't be covered just in a few email lines. But
I'll try to explain my point of view as well as I can.
If all the device manufacturers would also make device drivers for Linux, not
only for Windows, for their devices, one wouldn't spend 5 or more hours to
make that piece of hardware working. But many of them (the manufacturers)
follow your same question: why bother with Linux, when
it's Windows on the market?
But the question is not why do people spend time making things work in Linux,
but
Why do more and more people like Linux, and switch from Windows ?
You will understand why when you will understand that there is a fundamental
difference between Windows and Linux: that between competition and
cooperation, or between freedom of choice and monopoly. There are many other
differences between the two OSs. I will pinpoint the facts:
1. In our Linux community we help each other, rather than jumping at each
other's throat.
2. Linux is open source, meaning you can take the source code, and if you
know programming you can change it without being sued. Try to do this in the
Windows environment !
3. When someone finds a fix to a problem, or creates a program, (s)he posts
it on the 'net and everyone can benefit from her/his work, not only
"registered customers".
4. Linux is free of charge (I don't have to pay Gates taxes). How much does
Windows (any flavor) cost ? Also, about 90 % of the Linux applications are
free of charge. About 10 % are commercial applications, meaning that you have
to pay for it. Even so, the Linux version costs about 1/2 price that of the
Windows version.
5. Linux is rock solid. I have two Linux boxes, and one of them is on for
about 6 months by now, acting as both a server and a workstation. (I will
probably have to turn it off to change the CPU fan, because it started
rattling :-) How long does a Windows program (or Windows itself, for that
matter) work without crashing ?
6. I have never had to deal with viruses and other "delights" that Windows
industry is so full of.
7. Linux is completely configurable. You can even attach your computer to a
coffee maker through a serial port, and brew coffee (I'm not kidding, it's
just that you need to know a little electronics and some free time to do it)
8. Linux does not require as many resources as Windows to work. Try, for
example to make Windows 95/98/NT/2000 work on 16 or 32 MB RAM, or on a 486
machine, or on a 1 GB hardisk, and see with how many resources you are left
for your actual programs.
9. With the risk of copying B.R. Ivy, I think that indeed Linux is fun,
challenging, and REWARDING if you have the time, patience or the intellectual
resources to understand it.
As for your question about recreating the wheel: the Unix environment was in
the computing industry a long time BEFORE Bill Gates "borrowed" the GUI idea
from Macintosh.
If you read Linux's history, you will see that people have had enough with
surrogate OS and monopoly, and Yes! I believe that Linux is here to stay
grow, and eventually replace Windows.
This is my humble opinion about Linux. I have used Windows since the 3.0
version. I gave a try to Linux 2-3 years ago (I used Red Hat 5.2 on a AMD K6
machine), switched to it immediately, and never regretted. I am sorry if I
hurt Windows fans feelings, I didn't mean to. There are just facts that I
gathered over a (almost) three-year period.
Ferdi.
>
> "Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9968pp$2b7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I can't really understand why people want to
> > spend 5 or 10 hours trying to get a device
> > working on linux since there is no help whatsoever
> > for it, while it only takes half an hour to get it
> > working on Windows? Isn't that a great waste of
> > personal life as well as social resources? Does it
> > really make sense for computer industry to go back
> > to squre one and try to recreate a wheel which we
> > already have now? Do people really believe that
> > an OS which requires all of its users to know how
> > to use makefile can go that far? After all, even
> > primitive DOS 1.0 doesn't require me to graduate
> > with a CS degree first before I start using it?
> > If a resource requires so much background knowledge
> > before anyone can really use it, then what's the
> > difference does it make compares to not having the
> > resource at all?
> >
> > Can someone give some reasonable and inspirational
> > answers for the above questions?
> >
> >
> >
--
********************************************
Ferdinand Badescu
Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, U.C. Irvine
Irvine, CA 92697
Tel: 949-824-8094
Fax: 949-824-2174
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ryengoth)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.support.commercial,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: mem and swap problem
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:51:39 GMT
Try doing a "linux mem=256M" at boot, then rerun lilo when you get
to a bash prompt. That'll enforce the 256M limit.
As far as swap, you'll need to remove space from another partition
and add it to the swap. Your other option is to reinstall, making sure
that lilo knows 256M is the mem limit, before the setup program runs.
Otherwise,, it's all manual fdisk and re-formatting to change your
swap partition.
(I'd just add another hard drive and make it swap. Reclaim your old
swap parition as usable ext2 space)
Ryengoth
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:27:07 -0600, "Sharkster"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Im running RH 7 on a PII 300 with 256 meg ram. The system is only
>recognizing 64 meg and has already adjusted the swap accordingly.
>I have already edited the lilo.conf with the " append="mem=256M". Ive run
>the LILO and rebooted. The system is still only recognizing 64 meg.
>Did I miss something in there and what was it. How can I adjust my swap to
>match the 256m.
>
>Sharkster
>61517946
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version
From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:25:36 GMT
"Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Under OS/2, the boot sector contains enough information to find OS2BOOT,
> which itself contains a miniature file system implementation - enough to
> find all system files, including the kernel, configuration file, and base
> device drivers.
And under Linux, LILO contains enough information to find the Linux
kernel, which knows about *everything*. Sure, it could be better, and
some versions of UNIX have quite extensive boot loaders that can do
all that.
Solutions get complicated. The 1 sector block isn't big enough to do
a lot of thinking, so it generally has to know enough to invoke
something smarter. That can either mean having a fixed list of blocks
to load, like LILO, or being able to decipher simple file systems to
find things to run, or statically reserving a section of the disk for
the boot loader and its use (ie, the 1 cylinder partition I used to
use to boot up OS/2 warp). There are multistep approaches, like OS/2
or Mach, where progressively more complex boot loaders get run. LILO
went with a simple approach is all.
Note that Linux supports a lot more varieties of filesystems than OS/2
does too. For boot filesystems maybe ext2 is the most popular, but
msdos, vfat, minix, and iso9660 are certainly in common use; maybe
some people are booting off of hfs, reiserfs, sun partitions, and so
forth. Adding filesystem support raises the question of "which
filesystems are important enough".
(Also LILO is a PC only boot loader, with lots of x86 assembler in
it. Linux running on Alphas or Sparcs or PPC's don't use it.)
But LILO isn't that bad. You only have to remember to run LILO
everything you modify the kernel. There are other boot loaders
out there you might want to look at, or you can write your own if
nothing fits.
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From: "stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 11M wireless Driver can't work under redhat7.0
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:54:15 +0800
My notebook( redhat7.0/kernel 2.2.16/ pcmcia 3.1.19), I install
the linux driver from manufacture by the readme that provided by
the manufacture(After Making config/all/install and restarting
pcmcia service, only prism2ap_cs.o and prism2sta_cs.o is produced
,and prism2_cs.o is not produced. So I CAN'T drive the 11M pcmcia
card nic.
At the same notebook (but under "redhat6.2/kernel 2.2.14/ pcmcia
3.1.8")
the driver works fine for my 11M pcmcia nic.I install the linux
driver from manufacture by the readme that provided by
the manufacture(After Making config/all/install and restarting
pcmcia service, the 3 *.o "prism2ap_cs.o, prism2sta_cs.o and
prism2_cs.o are
all produced. So I CAN drive the 11M pcmcia nic to connect to my local
lan, even more the internet.
Does anyone what to do with this problem? Or does anyone have such
experience and kown what't wrong with it?
Are there still some bugs between redhat7.0's 2.2.16 kernel and pcmcia
3.1.19?
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From: Basil Chupin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.support.commercial,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: mem and swap problem
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:20:19 +1000
Sharkster wrote:
> Im running RH 7 on a PII 300 with 256 meg ram. The system is only
> recognizing 64 meg and has already adjusted the swap accordingly.
> I have already edited the lilo.conf with the " append="mem=256M". Ive run
> the LILO and rebooted. The system is still only recognizing 64 meg.
> Did I miss something in there and what was it. How can I adjust my swap to
> match the 256m.
>
> Sharkster
> 61517946
The very important bit here is that there has to be a space before the 'mem='
in the append statement. The statement should read:
append=" mem=256M"
^
space
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher W. Aiken)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:44:48 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:48:27 GMT, Keith Marjerison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
:)1st, I'm a Linux newbe, so go eazy. How do I go about getting Suse to
:)recognize my TidalWave128 ISA sound card. It is PnP and the 'isadump' utility
:)sees the card but when I try and use 'YaST2' to install 'Generic' support for
:)the 'CS42*' and the program stops saying the 'kernel' does not support it.
:)What am I doing wrong? What is a good reference for Linux ? i.e. Linux
:)Unleashed? Thanks for any help in advance.
:)/>Keith Marjerison
:)/>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:)
:)
I got my CS4232 up and running by adding the following lines
to my /etc/rc.d/boot.local file. The run the boot.local file
or reboot.
echo "Setup CS4232 Sound"
modprobe soundcore
modprobe sound
modprobe ad1848
modprobe uart401
modprobe cs4232 io=0x530 irq=7 dma=1 dma2=3 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9
Just adjust the data to fit your system.
--
Christopher W. Aiken
Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com
www.cwaiken.com
SuSE 7.1 Professional Linux
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 11M wireless Driver can't work under redhat7.0
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:18:37 GMT
stephen wrote:
> Does anyone what to do with this problem? Or does anyone have such
> experience and kown what't wrong with it?
> Are there still some bugs between redhat7.0's 2.2.16 kernel and >pcmcia
I'm not sure if it's related to your problem, but Red Hat DID put an
updated kernel out on its errata page. Go to
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2001-013.html
You can download the new kernel from there, if you like.
Mladen
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From: Richard Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mouse Sensitivity
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:21:07 -0500
I am finding the mouse sensitivity is too slow for me. Is there a way to
speed this up? I have the acceleration all the way up, but I really want
the general movement to be faster (not just the accelerated movements)
Dose that make sense?
Thanks for your help,
Rick
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From: CYBERYOGI =CO= Windler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.debian.user,redhat.config
Subject: HELP ME!: Aiptek WEBCAM controls dont't work under Linux (OV511+/OV7620
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:20:40 +0200
I need to run 2 Aiptek "HyperVcam Mobile" USB webcams under Debian Linux 2.2
with kernel 2.4.1 on a PC with a DFI P5BV3+ Mainboard(rev.B2),an AMD K6 300MHz
CPU, 128MB RAM and a Venus Virge 2MB graphics card.
I am student of software-techniques and for my thesis I plan to develop a
sing- and gesture controlled music synthesizer with a 3D/VR user interface,
therefore I urgently need to get the cameras working.My problem is that the
webcam picture controls (brightness,contrast,hue etc.) in programs like
"xawtv" and "gqcam" seem to be completely ignored by the webcam driver and I
only get a framerate of about 2..4 fps. Sometimes the USB driver seems to
crash with results in pixel rubish spread all over the picture.
At the beginning also under Windoze98 I got tons of colourful pixel rubbish;
after some experiments with my USB port I discovered that connecting a Zobel
network (capacitor in series to resistor) as a terminator from pin "data+" to
GND removed the rubbish. Capacitors much >2nF(?) prevented the correct detec-
tion of the camera (only an "unknown USB device" was found); ones <100pf were
too small to get rid of all the rubbish. I don't remember well whether the
control sliders ever worked in Windoze before, but actually I have soldered
150pf in series to 560Ohm as well from "data+" to GND as from "data-" to GND
- the latter because I hoped it could fix the controls problem under linux,
but it didn't. The Windows ones work now,alsthough the automatic brightness
and aperture settings seem to re-activate themself sometimes spontaneously.
(After powerup the camera often needs to be re-plugged to be recognized cor-
rectly - I guess this is just a power supply problem which prevents the camera
from resetting well while all drive motors start spinning during power on.
The power supply is a 300W AT one of the brand "Fortron".)
When I start "xawtv" or "gqcam" under Linux, I just get a dim picture which is
slowly fading brighter and more colourful to a quite pale webcam picture,but
the picture control sliders don't work. In xawtv sometimes blue/green snow
appears during motion of its sliders, and afterwards the picture fades from
dim to bright again (because the webcam is resetted?), but the slider values
have no effect. After some time (or some program restarts?) the picture stopps
responding on slider movement at all. In gqcam when the automatic brightness
setting is on I can see the brightness slider move left and right,but the
framerate drops to 2 fps or so and the output picture is chopped by many pure-
ly white frames flickering through it. When I turn the automatic brightness
setting off, the white flickering is not present and manual slider operation
either restarts that dim-to-bright fading or does nothing.
Generally the outputted values for contrast,brightness etc. in the "camera
info" window stay the same and don't match the values set by the sliders,which
lets me conclude that the ov511 driver either never gets or ignores the values
sent from the sliders. When automatic brightness in gqcam is on, the webcam
picture seems to stay at a fixed brightness(without fading),but possibly this
rather happens because this option continuesly resets the webcam by the suc-
cessless attempt of sending brightness values to it than because it reponds to
the brighness commands properly. When the automatic brightness setting of the
ov511 driver module is turned off manually from the insmod command line, the
fading dim-to-bright effect doesn't occure,but the slider values remain ig-
nored.
When I set the picture size in gqcam to "quater", I get instead of a downsized
picture in 160x120(?) resolution just the upper left quater of the 320x240(?)
picture.Astonishingly this mode is displayed at a reasonable framerate, but
otherwise it is now in b/w while the blue colour bitplane(?) is scrolling/fli-
ckering through it like a poor TV reception interference of 2 mixing TV sta-
tion images.In the source code of the "ov511.c" driver in my kernel sources
2.4.1 I found for this mode the comment "FIXME",though this is likely a known
bug.
The Aiptek "HyperVcam Mobile" is reported by "gqcam" to be a OV511+ with a
OV7620 CCD chip. In the source code of the kernel's ov511 driver the controls
settings section of the OV7620 chip looks quite strange;apparently the value
of a multiplexed register is read, then a portion of its old value is added to
the new one and the result is written back to it or something like that. The
code from the OV7610(?) looks much more straight-forward. May the OV7620 code
be buggy or incomplete? Does anybody know why the camera sometimes makes pixel
rubbish under linux while it other times runs well for hours? Unloading and
re-inserting the ov511 kernel module doesn't help - only rebooting. (The rea-
son for the lousy framerate is likely my Virge graphics card,which higher
functions seem to be not supported by the Xfree86 driver.I will anyway re-
place that slow card soon because also its RAM seems to be a little faulty and
causes other kinds of pixel rubbish in certain situations.)
PLEASE tell me if the non-working camera controls in Linux are a bug in the
ov511 driver and if there is a fix for it. I urgently need to get these ca-
meras to work in a stabile way for the programming project of my thesis.
MAY THE SOFTWARE BE WITH YOU!
*============================================================================*
I CYBERYOGI Christian Oliver(=CO=) Windler I
I (teachmaster of LOGOLOGIE - the first cyberage-religion!) I
I ! I
*=============================ABANDON=THE=BRUTALITY==========================*
{http://www.informatik.fh-hamburg.de/~windle_c/e_index.html}
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need easiest way to upgrade kernel on RH7
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:21:42 GMT
> I am very fearful of doing a kernel upgrade. Are there rpm's
> available to allow me to do this easily?
Yes.
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2001-013.html
See all the kernel packages you have installed in your system. Then
download the equivalents from the webpage, and install them. Then run
lilo, and you should be set (make sure that the correct image is set in
lilo.
Mladen
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 or 7.0
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:12:58 GMT
If I was doing software development I would pick Redhat 6.2.
For server applications, I would pick Redhat 7.0 and I find it pretty stable.
Redhat 7.1 is coming soon.
Buzz Lightyear wrote:
> We are in the final stage of a 2 months testing period. without going into
> too many details, we are debating between RHat 6.2 and 7.0. The server will
> be strictly for Samba.
> We feel the 6.2 is more stable and everything is in the "right place " while
> some changes in 7.0 seem to cause the system some instability (Compaq
> ProLiant 3000, dual PII 400).
>
> Any input is appreciated.
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From: "SS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: NTP HowTo
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:35:33 -0500
Ok.. I got a really silly question. I'm trying to setup my Linux box to
automatically synth with one of those atomic clock. But I'm not able to
find any HowTo doc on this subject.
Can someone tell me how I can setup this automatic time synth? Let say, the
system will check the time every hour or 15 minutes...
Thanx
Sam
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From: "Haxor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Delayed systerm logger at start ups
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:39:01 +0200
Hi,
Would be greatful for suggestions why system logger takes so long time to
launch during system start ups. This tends to happend in smaller
installations where no X-server is used, so I guess there is a missing
package...maybe.
Usually, all services are launched in almost no time during a start up, but
when the system logger is about to be launched the process takes minutes.
Regards,
/Haxor
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Display problem
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:47:12 -0600
Lately I installed RedHat7 on my laptop (Compaq Presario).
I let Xconfigurator detect the hardware and it found my video card and
unknown monitor.
As monitor type I choose Generic LCD with my screen resolution and I
even tried Generic multisync.
The problem is that when I use the X (Gnome) the fonts look very small
and not sharp, especially on the Netscape browser.
How can I fix the problem?
Thanks,
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Mar 2001 03:00:35 GMT
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:44:48 -0000, Christopher W. Aiken staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:48:27 GMT, Keith Marjerison
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>1st, I'm a Linux newbe, so go eazy. How do I go about getting Suse to
>>recognize my TidalWave128 ISA sound card. It is PnP and the 'isadump'
>>utility :)sees the card but when I try and use 'YaST2' to install
>>'Generic' support for :)the 'CS42*' and the program stops saying the
>>'kernel' does not support it. :)What am I doing wrong? What is a good
>>reference for Linux ? i.e. Linux :)Unleashed? Thanks for any help in
>>advance.
>
>I got my CS4232 up and running by adding the following lines
>to my /etc/rc.d/boot.local file. The run the boot.local file
>or reboot.
>
>echo "Setup CS4232 Sound"
>modprobe soundcore
>modprobe sound
>modprobe ad1848
>modprobe uart401
>modprobe cs4232 io=0x530 irq=7 dma=1 dma2=3 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9
SuSE 7.x uses ALSA, not the kernel OSS drivers, by default. Chris gave
the OSS solution, which should work provided you can find the right
values for all the parameters. Every cs42xx I've seen has used IRQ 5,
for instance, and "0" for dma2, but try various things... the worst you
can do is lock up the system. Keith, have you tried "alsaconf"?
As for a good Linux book, _Running Linux_ by Matt Walsh (published by
O'Reilly and Associates) is a pretty good low-to-mid-level book. If you
got the "Professional" SuSE distro, you should have a pretty
comprehensive set of manuals sitting around. (The manuals are much less
comprehensive in the "Personal" distro. Sigh.) The following sites can
be very useful for Linux users:
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
http://linuxnewbies.org/
file:/usr/share/doc/packages/
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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