Linux-Setup Digest #950, Volume #20              Fri, 30 Mar 01 08:13:12 EST

Contents:
  Re: printing in star office (Moritz Franosch)
  Re: looking for an FAQ ("SpiderFly")
  Re: SCSI controller (Achim Nolcken Lohse)
  Re: SCSI controller (Achim Nolcken Lohse)
  suse please help me.... ("feeyo SRC")
  =?iso-8859-1?Q?cant=B4t?= switch between kde and gnome (Harald grosskopf)
  Re: Help!  Can't boot from floppy (Jean-David Beyer)
  tetex, pdftex (Tomaz Cedilnik)
  Re: truetype support with xfree86 4.0 ("Ron Nicholls")
  Tape blksize/density change error (Manoj Patil)
  RH 7 Install Help!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: tetex, pdftex (H.Bruijn)
  Re: Kernel too big (Tomaz Cedilnik)
  Re: how to execute the file you just make (Tomaz Cedilnik)

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From: Moritz Franosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: printing in star office
Date: 30 Mar 2001 10:36:55 +0200



Charles Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The only Xpdefaults file I found is in opt/office52_en/share/xp3.  

This looks ok.


> [ports]
> ; In this section reside the print commands for the queue names.
> ; The queue name can be user-defined and will be displayed in the print
> ; dialogues of StarOffice.
> ; In the following examples "myqueuename" has to be replaced with the
> ; name which is specified at the printer in the section [devices].
> ; Example to print to the spooler queue named ps:
> ; myqueuename=lp -d ps
> ; Example to print to the BSD printer spooler:
> ; myqueuename=lpr
> ; Example to print to file /tmp/print.ps
> ; myqueuename=cat > /tmp/print.ps
> ; Example to print to PageView:
> ; myqueuename=/usr/openwin/bin/pageview - &
> default_queue=lpr
> ;default_queue=lp

Are you able to print by

cat myfile.ps | lpr

where myfile.ps is a PostScript file generated by StarOffice (use the
'print to file' option)?

If you are, I don't know why printing from StarOffice does not work.


Moritz

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From: "SpiderFly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for an FAQ
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:03:32 GMT

Thanks for the link, I'll have a look over the weekend.

"Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:99vj1u$2uers$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "SpiderFly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:lCHw6.22187$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Is there an FAQ for this News Group?
>
> You can found a lot of Faqs and other info at
> www.linuxdoc.org
>
> Davide
>
>
>





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Achim Nolcken Lohse)
Subject: Re: SCSI controller
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:27:57 GMT

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:39:03 +0200, Michael Heiming
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Achim Nolcken Lohse wrote:
>> 
...
>> >But no one actually installs WIN XX from scratch and assumes, that it would
>> >be much easier, but it isn't, try it out, if you don't believe me....
>> >
>> Not true. I've installed Windows many times from scratch, and many
>> more times over top of a damaged installation.   I've never yet been
>> unable to install Windows on a functional PC, and always without
>> having to go online, post messages for help, consult reams of
>> documentation, etc.
>
>That is your experience, mine is different, I started my Linux experience with
>SuSE 4.2 about 5 years ago, I had no internet available, it took me about a week
>editing, reading man pages and calculating modlines to get the damn X running.

I had even more fun than you on my first Linux installation - Red Hat
5.X.  I wasted several weeks by believing the manual (and Red Hat's
Web site), which told me that the included Metro-X driver supported my
Matrox Impression (?) video card. I finally contacted the publisher of
Metro-X and was informed that Red Hat had got it wrong, and published
the specs for an earlier Metro-X driver, NOT the one included in the
disto!!  They generously offered to sell me the driver version in
question for a mere US$40 (!!), but without any promise of support. I
conclude that the driver never worked properly anyway.

Well, mistakes will happen, but you'd think that two years would be
enough time to fix the WEB page, eh?  Never mind, just go out and buy
another video card.


>
>Today with SuSE 7.1 and yast2, it's no problem installing a standard install
>in 15-20 min. without any reboot and everything will be ready...:-)

As I said, mistaking dumb luck for skill...

A couple of years ago someone urged me to try Corel Linux as the
easiest install of all. I stuck it in my CD-ROM drive, and got a nice
splash screen, but then the floppy stopped running and the CD-ROM
light never went on. End of story.  System locked up as well,
requiring a hard reset.  Some quick inquiries on the NGs turned up all
kinds of people with exactly the same experience.  I didn't stop with
one CD-ROM drive either, I substituted a SCSI one for my IDE (trust
me, neither was too new to be known!). Same result.

>
>Not long ago I had to instal W2K on a laptop, it took half the day and after
>numerous
>reboot I only had the OS and Office installed.
>
>Was really funny to discover, after a while, if you take out the laptop of it's
>docking
>station, your network settings are gone, put it in again and you see them again.
>
>I mean this is a toy, not an OS, if you like systems that hide everything from
>you, I don't.

Funny you should say that. Of the less than 50% of "successful
installations, about the only use I've had is to run a scanner and
GIMP.  The simplest chores are impossible to figure out from the
manual. For example, after Col 2.4 failed to install by any of the
offered means, I reinstalled Mandrake 6.0, the only disto I've had
some semblance of utility out of. 

It's been half a year since I last ran it, so I've forgotten how to
set up the scanner in fstab. I remembered xscanimage though, and
looked at the man file, which told me about the "touch command", which
worked to get the scanner working, but only as root. The command
doesn't work from the user prompt.

So I scanned an image and wanted to move it to my user directory,
where I had GIMP installed. I tried to use the File Manager to move
the file, and Bingo!, the entire KDE installation was fried.

 Reinstall, reinstall, reinstall!
>
>That's what I like most about Linux, if you really want to figure it out, you can,
>at least a fast grep through some sourcefiles will show...:-)

So you say. I say it's bullhooey. Take mounting a Bernoulli drive for
example. When I started with Red Hat,  I had the MacMillan pdf
versions of Maximum RPM, Linux Unleashed (?) etc., four  fat  Linux
"reference" volumes, available on the CD. Three of them couldn't even
give me a single hit on removable!  The fourth wasn't the slightest
help.

How would a newbie figure out that he has to mount partition 3 or 4,
or whatever it is, of his Bernoulli? In Windows I install the OS, and
it shows me the drive, I put the cartridge in and click on the icon. 

 So which is the toy?

Achim




axethetax

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Achim Nolcken Lohse)
Subject: Re: SCSI controller
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:28:02 GMT

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:18:16 -0600, "Tim Cuthbertson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

....
>But, recently I installed Suse 7.0. It took about three days of tracking
>down various fixes and workarounds, but I finally successfully installed it.
>
>Still, I cannot re-boot it in any normal fashion. I am forced to boot from
>the installation CD and pretend like I am going to install it again,
>providing all the parameters and settings. After providing all that info, I
>can then tell it to "boot an existing installation" instead of doing an
>installation. This works just fine, but when I try to get help to boot it
>normally, everyone tells me it is because I have hardware problems. If
>hardware problems were the problem, why is it able to boot successfully
>after going through the rigamarole?
>
>I have tried lilo, boot floppy, and loadlin, but all methods end up the
>same - timeouts on the SCSI adapter. Nobody can (or will) tell me how to
>enter the parameters that make it work when booting from the CD. lilo works,
>but ignores my "append=" parameters.
>

This sounds suspiciously similar to my experience with Caldera 2.2.  

My BIOS doesn't support booting from the CD, so I booted from the
install floppy, and had the module floppy standing by, as I knew I'd
need it for SCSI support. The problem is that I was installing on a
SCSI drive 3 on a dual IDE system with Win95  and Red Hat 5.2 already
installed on Drive 1.

Installation was no problem at all, the module floppy supplied the
necessary  SCSI support, the SCSI adapter and drives were accurately
identified, as were the partitions I'd already prepared on the host
drive previously.  The big fly in the ointment was that I was never
given the option to create a boot floppy. I guess the designers
figured the included Boot Magic was all I'd need.

Slight problem. Boot Magic wouldn't work. Not only couldn't it boot
the Caldera installation, it couldn't even boot the Red Hat. I even
had an advantage, in that I had the commercial package of Partition
Magic 4.0, including the Boot Magic printed manual, which I promptly
studied (not a long read!), it gave a clue under the heading of:

"Third Drive Booting and Beyond"

"for DOS and Windows95/98, all primary partitions on all previous
dirves must be hidden before booting..."Bootmagic ....does not hide
any partitions on the second, third, or fourth drives.  You must be
willing to manually hide and unhide these partitions with every
attempt to boot."

Thanks so much!

 I went to the Powerquest site for more info, but never did learn how
one does this. I wasn't too keen to monkey around either, especially
since I couldn't make any sense of Partition Magic's "analysis" of my
first two drives, both of which had been happily running for many
months with "corrupted" partition tables.

I tried using the installation floppy (as this is generally supposed
to work) to reboot the Caldera installation, but it played stupid, and
wouldn't boot. Nor could I find any information on constructing a
working boot floppy for it (ie. one that would load SCSI support so
LILO could find the installation on the SCSI drive). In fact, there
was no information on booting COL2.2 with anything but Bootmagic.

My conclusion is that the person or persons charged with creating the
installation module got bored with it, or went to lunch and forgot to
finish it... Or maybe they just figured, "who cares, if anyone
complains, the usenet Linux pitbulls will tear them apart"


>Anyway, this Linux installation is much more trouble than it is worth. Best
>wishes to everyone who wants to keep fighting with it.

Afraid so. I class it as a more serious version of one of those
maddening games one plays into the wee hours only because it's
unpalatable to accept one can't master it.


To be fair, Linux is not the worst OS I've tried.  That distinction
belongs to IBM's OS2/Warp, which had to be the biggest rip-off of all
time. I never want to rely on IBM for software support again after
that experience.  They shipped "business apps"  they knew well in
advance  weren't working, and then staffed the "support" desks with
some kind of five-bucks-an-hour yo-yos whose only skill was to waste
the frustrated user's time and make him go away.*

Achim

*Don't take this to mean I trust IBM's hardware - I've got an Ambra
Notebook that's still looking for a Win 95 driver for its trackball.





axethetax

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From: "feeyo SRC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: suse please help me....
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:42:31 +0200

Thxz for reading and maybe answering my question =)
i just got a linux suse 7.1 Because i got so fucking tired of windoze!!!

But i need some help here i have installed the os and everything is running
(i think)
I just downloaded LICQ so how do i install software i just downloaded????
( i know this is terrible)
can somebody answer me with an easy to understand guide. =)
Thxz all!!






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From: Harald grosskopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?cant=B4t?= switch between kde and gnome
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:17:57 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

i have a redhad 7.0 linux system installed with kde and gnome.
When i start X, gnome starts as default desktop-system.
I tried to load kde with "switchdesk", it tells me that it can�t find
kde on my system.
What can i do?

bye, Harald.


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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Help!  Can't boot from floppy
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:42:50 -0500

David Efflandt wrote:
> 
> On 30 Mar 2001 01:31:11 GMT, Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  I have copied a Linux boot image to floppy, but my computer refuses to
> >boot from it.  It starts running initrd.img and then says "boot failed." I
> >tried two different boot disks, with the same result. Anybody know why?

I have no idea. When did this come up? You should have detected this
late in the initial installation process when, no doubt, it asked you
if you wanted to make a boot disk, and of course you said "yes",
right? I presume you then tested this disk right away, right? This is
when you detected the problem?

One way to get problems is to make a boot floppy, and then do some
serious changing of your system (e.g., changing the file system
around, installing a new release, (maybe) installing a new kernel (but
I do not think so), etc.), and failing to make a new boot floppy.
> 
> Floppies for boot images must be perfect (no bad sectors) because boot
> data is written to them sequentially (no file system).  So 'format a: /u'
> them in DOS or Windows first and make sure thay have no bad sectors.

I normally write them to brand new floppies, using mkbootdisk (man
mkbootdisk). To see if it has bad blocks, there may be a test program,
but I do not know about that. But testing the boot floppy immediately
after making it (well, after removing it and disabling
write-permission), is a pretty good test.

format a: /u 

does not work well for Linux:

valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ format  a: /u
bash: format: command not found
valinux:jdbeyer[~]

fdformat (man fdformat) may be what you are looking for.
> 
> And I believe that you have to use rawrite when booted to DOS (not a DOS
> window or restart in DOS mode).  You may need to use your Win startup
> floppy for that (or at least that is the only way I can boot to DOS with
> Win98se).

This cannot be correct, because some people run Linux-only machines
and have no access to DOS at all, not having a Microsoft License for
anything.
> 
> PS: The boot floppy that came with my Mandrake 7.0 was bad and would not
> boot, so I had to make another one.
> 
That could easily be.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey     http://counter.li.org 
^^-^^ 6:20am up 1 day, 20:33, 3 users, load average: 2.02, 2.11, 2.08

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From: Tomaz Cedilnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tetex, pdftex
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:50:08 +0200

I get this error:

tom@arrakis:/home/tom/study/Study% pdftex Sem2
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12h (Web2C 7.2)
(pdftex.cfg)<acrobat.map><lw35extra_urw.map><charter.map><omega.map><utopia.map
><xypic.map><hoekwater.map><bsr.map><bakomaextra.map> (Sem2.tex (math.tex)
2. Ideali, kvocientni prostori in reprezentacije, 2. del  [1] [2
! Error: pdftex:
Font bbm10 not found in map files
tom@arrakis:/home/tom/study/Study% _

What can I do?

(The text between "(math.tex)" and "[1] [2" is the title of the section
and is in Slovene; the command was \beginsection.)

Tom

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From: "Ron Nicholls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: truetype support with xfree86 4.0
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:02:34 +1000

I get the same and it is definately the
fonts, or something about them.
If another font type is placed into the TTdirectory
xset works -no error.
I was going to experiment with a couple of
fonts at a time to see  it was a defective
font file but I just trashed a second HD and
am in recovery mode

--
-
-
Regards
RonN
Tigerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ZwNw6.120$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm using Suse 7.1 and xfree 4.0. Truetype support is supposed to be built
> in. I've read the font deugly how to. I've searched google and the
> newsgroups.
>
> I can't get it to work.
>
> If I add the truetype path to Xconfig x will no longer start. If I use
xset
> +fp truetype path it gives me an error.
>
> Has anybody encountered this and fixed it?
>
>
>
>



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From: Manoj Patil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tape blksize/density change error
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:50:39 +0530

Hi !
I have IBM PC with Red Hat 6.2 (kernel 2.2.14)
I have connected two SCSI tape drives to this machine
I am not able to change the density and block size for one of the tape
drive

$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi     shows me following
Attached devices
Host: scsi0    Channel:    00    ID:   02    Lun:00
Vendor:    EXABYTE    Model: IBM-8505    Rev: 7J0A
Type:    Sequential-Access                            ANSI SCSI
revision: 02
Host:  scsi0    Channel:   00    ID:   03    LUN:00
Vendor:    EXABYTE    Model: EXB-8200    Rev:2680
Type:    Sequential-Access                            ANSI SCSI
revision: 01 CCS

$mt -f /dev/nst1 status
SCSI 1  tape drive
File number =-1,  block number=-1
Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x0 (default)
Soft error count since last status=0
General status bits on (1010000):
ONLINE IM_REP_EN

On this tape if i try to change the blksize or the density, I get
following error
( mt -f /dev/nst1 setblk  1024   and setdensity 0x14)

st1: Error with sense data: [valid=0] Infofld=0x0 , EOM current
st09:01:sense key Illiegal request
/dev/nst1:  Input/Output Error

However, I am able to do  a  tar cvf and tar tvf on this tape using a
112M cartridge.

Can some one please help me in how to go about changing the blk size .

(I am able to change block size and density on the other tape i.e
/dev/nst0)






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RH 7 Install Help!!!
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:49:03 +0530

Hi,

I am trying to install RH 7 from HDD using a boot floppy. the installer
crashes giving error in Anaconda.... something like this..

Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/usr/bin/anaconda.real", line 438, in ?
    intf.run(todo, test = test)
  File "/var/tmp/anaconda-7.0.1//usr/lib/anaconda/text.py", line 1030,
in run
  File
"/var/tmp/anaconda-7.0.1//usr/lib/anaconda/textw/packages_text.py", line
33, in __call__
  File "/var/tmp/anaconda-7.0.1//usr/lib/anaconda/todo.py", line 539, in
getCompsList
  File "/var/tmp/anaconda-7.0.1//usr/lib/anaconda/harddrive.py", line
43, in readComps
  File "/var/tmp/anaconda-7.0.1//usr/lib/anaconda/comps.py", line 459,
in __init__
  File "/var/tmp/anaconda-7.0.1//usr/lib/anaconda/comps.py", line 428,
in readCompsFile
  File "/var/tmp/anaconda-7.0.1//usr/lib/anaconda/comps.py", line 101,
in __getitem__
KeyError: perl

Local variables in innermost frame:
self: <comps.HeaderList instance at 823a360>
item: perl

ToDo object:
(itodo
ToDo
p1
(dp2
S'method'
p3
(iharddrive
HardDriveInstallMethod
p4
(dp5
S'fstype'
p6
S'vfat'
p7
sS'isMounted'
p8
I1
sS'fnames'
p9
(dp10

<failed>


Any clue... whats going on....  How to proceed ???

Regards /// Rahul


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: tetex, pdftex
Date: 30 Mar 2001 12:42:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:50:08 +0200, Tomaz Cedilnik allegedly wrote:

I would suggest posting this in comp.text.tex 

>I get this error:
>
>tom@arrakis:/home/tom/study/Study% pdftex Sem2
>This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12h (Web2C 7.2)
>(pdftex.cfg)<acrobat.map><lw35extra_urw.map><charter.map><omega.map><utopia.map
>><xypic.map><hoekwater.map><bsr.map><bakomaextra.map> (Sem2.tex (math.tex)
>2. Ideali, kvocientni prostori in reprezentacije, 2. del  [1] [2
>! Error: pdftex:
>Font bbm10 not found in map files
>tom@arrakis:/home/tom/study/Study% _
>
>What can I do?
>
>(The text between "(math.tex)" and "[1] [2" is the title of the section
>and is in Slovene; the command was \beginsection.)

The error is font not found. 
Have you installed all fonts? Additional fonts for fi debian are in the 
packages tetex-extra and tetex-nonfree.
If you have the font, was it installed correctly? I don't know how to
verify that they are, ut can you find bbm10 with the locate command?

Second if your source file is in latex, you should use pdflatex instead
of pdftex, which assumes source in plain tex.


-- 
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn                         website:   http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands 

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From: Tomaz Cedilnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:43:33 +0200

James Barwick wrote:

> MODULES MAN, MODULES!!!  I simple rule of thumb I live by...Don't
> compile drivers into the kernel unless you have to!

Is there any difference in efficiency between a compiled-in driver and a
module driver?

I personally prefer to compile in all drivers that I need unless I need
a bit more dynamic driver set.

If you set up eg. a SB driver (something that needs more options) as a
module, do you specify the port and other info at compile time?

Tom

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From: Tomaz Cedilnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to execute the file you just make
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:58:20 +0200

Benoit Mordelet wrote:

> you must have a.out support compiled in your kernel. but anyway this is
> now deprecated, and you should consider using ELF binaries instead. just

I think you are talking rubbish. gcc, no matter whether it's an a.out
one or an elf one, will produce an executable with the default name
"a.out". So if you see the name "a.out" after running gcc it's very
likely to be elf (unless you use an old gcc).

> use the -o option with gcc, e.g. :
> gcc -o binary_name filename.c

This is just to name the executable and has nothing to do with the
executable format.

I had the same thing in mind as Eric, the PATH thing and ./a.out.
Hansen, was the error (when typing a.out) same as if you type
blahblahblah ? If yes, then Eric and I are right. If not, tell us the
message.

Tom

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