Linux-Setup Digest #979, Volume #20 Tue, 3 Apr 01 20:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: this is Bellsouth policy. (Jack Agent 3509)
Help with routing tables ("Jon Levesque")
Primary partition... on every HDD? ("Haxor")
Re: Memory pb : 384M real, 64M effective ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: How to install extra man-pages? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: backspace key in exceed? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: I would like to register a complaint ... (Darin Johnson)
Re: kernel 2.4.* and pppd-2.4.0* (Norman Madden)
K7V133A & RH7.0 ("Jeffrey Yu")
Re: Linux only boots with a floppy (dual boot with win98) ("Duane Healing")
Re: this is Bellsouth policy. (Stray Cat)
Re: I would like to register a complaint ... ("Duane Healing")
Re: uninstall x-windows (maher)
Re: Squid&RH 7.0 (maher)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack Agent 3509)
Crossposted-To:
ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,bellsouth.net.support.adsl,bellsouth.net.support.linux
Subject: Re: this is Bellsouth policy.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:34:21 GMT
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 01:55:40 -0400, Stray Cat
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 05:03:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack Agent
>3509) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:25:02 -0400, John M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>A happy Bellsouth customer without a decent news server?
>>
>>I would be a happy Bellsouth customer even if they just discontinued
>>the damn newservers already. They have pretty much always sucked
>>anyway.
>>
>>On the other hand, you could always get a T-1 and then for your $1000
>>per month you will have to buy a premium newservice anyway..
>>
>>You pay $50 for this service...come on. No affordable home broadband
>>can even come close to this!! Hell they could also can the stinking
>>mail servers for all I care.
>
>Really? I pay $50, and get good news and mail (but I don't use the
>mail, I run my own).
Does Telocity's newservers really compare to alt, supernews or any of
the premium servers?? When they eventually force me off my bridged
connection I will probably get to see firsthand...
>>Who wants their IP and all that BS crap in the headers anyway?
>
>My ISP's news server doesn't put IPs in the headers. But they still
>can know who made the post.
I'm pretty sure anyone running a newserver could tell who made a post
in question, the difference is just seeing it in the headers or
obtaining a court order.
>>One warez post and you would be back on dialup...
>
>LOL. And you'd lose that account too on the next illegal post if you
>upped it directly to a news server. Unless the server was in Russia or
>some such place.
I'm talking about the difference in upping warez from your bellsouth
server vs say alt.net's servers. With one you MAY lose your news
account - the other...back on dialup....or the next broadband
provider...
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From: "Jon Levesque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with routing tables
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:43:14 GMT
Can someone please help me before I turn my back forever on Linux.
I first installed SuSE 7.1 with two nics and tried to configure it as a
firewall/router. This is the setup:
204.83.38.x--->eth1(204.83.38.4)--->linux<---eth0(204.83.38.3)-----T1(204.83
.38.1)--world
As you can see I'm trying to set this machine up as a stand in between two
networks on the same subnet, which is supposedly doable from what I've
heard. Now here's the problem: From the linux machine I can ping any ip on
the eth1 side and any ip on the world side. From the machines connected to
eth1 I cannot ping any ip's on the world side. ie: from the linux
router/firewall I can ping www.yahoo.com no problem. From a machine with
204.83.38.x I always get a request timed out. Clients are configured with
204.83.38.4 as their gateway and can ping that no problem. Traceroutes from
the clients indicate time outs after reaching 24.83.38.4. Without getting
the routing working I CAN'T even begin to configure the firewall -which I
have clue how to do either by the way.
My routing table is as follows
204.83.38.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH eth0
204.83.38.0 * 255.255.255.128 U eth1
default gw.point2.com UG eth0
Now, thinking that it was my SuSe install. I reinstalled using Redhat 7.0
and end up with the exact @#$%$'ing problem.
ip_forwarding is enabled
I've read the man pages: net-how-to, adv-routing-how-to, firewall-howto,
ipchains-howto, iptables-howto and still am not able to troubleshoot.
I need real help, if get one more suggestion to read something I swear -
I'll shoot the penguin!
If this is not do-able just tell me so that I can move on to something else,
if it is, I need exact step by step idiot proof details!
Thanks in advance for everything!
Jon
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From: "Haxor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Primary partition... on every HDD?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:45:40 +0200
Hi,
This question has always done me unsure during (Linux) setups, though I
never had any problems that could be derived from bad choice of partitions.
However, now I'm looking for an answer.
When setting up, for example Mandrake you may choose between primary and
extended partitions, both ext2. From Windows I know, the primary partition
is the first one, where OS resides, and extended is a container for logical
partitions due to some windows (or maybe it was FAT) shortcoming. So far so
good.
Now, Linux isn't Windows and ext2 isn't FAT, so what's the deal? Can anyone
please explain it to me. I have been looking for an answer in HOWTO:s with
no luck.
Regards,
/Haxor
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Memory pb : 384M real, 64M effective
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:35:38 +0200
In comp.os.linux.hardware Pantalacci Christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got this kind of problem :
> Linux only sees 64M of RAM. When I modify lilo.conf by adding
There's no problem with that.
> append="mem=384M" and executing lilo, my whole system crashes at reboot with
> segmentation faults everywhere, and i must reinstall.
So you know what not to do! So carry on choosing numbers imbetween until
you find the right value. It's likely that your bios takes a meg or so.
Problem?
> I guess it's a hardware issue, maybe due to the VIA chipset.
> The config is the following :
> PIII 733 Mhz
> 3x128Mo RAM (100Mhz)
> Chipset VIA Apollo Pro
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install extra man-pages?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:45:03 +0200
Jimbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just downloaded the extra man-pages for djbdns.
> It tells me to install them into the path that's mentioned in
> $MANPATH. But when I do echo $MANPATH it's empty!
Good, so you know you didn't change the system default as defined
in man.conf ....
> I've tried to copy them to /usr/local/man/man8 but it doesn't work.
Oh yes it does. Especially if you add /usr/local/man to your manpath!
> There's for example a file : svc.8.gz
> When I copy this to /usr/local/man/man8 and then try man svc I get "no
> manual entry for svc".
> Any help please?
man man.
I refuse to help on a subject that is so self-evidently documented!
But as a hint, try it with "man -M ...... svc" first! And here's
some more help ..
DESCRIPTION
man formats and displays the on-line manual pages. This
version knows about the MANPATH and (MAN)PAGER environment
variables, so you can have your own set(s) of personal man
pages and choose whatever program you like to display the
formatted pages. If section is specified, man only looks
in that section of the manual. You may also specify the
order to search the sections for entries and which prepro-
cessors to run on the source files via command line
options or environment variables. If name contains a /
then it is first tried as a filename, so that you can do
man ./foo.5 or even man /cd/foo/bar.1.gz.
OPTIONS
-C config_file
Specify the man.conf file to use; the default is
/usr/lib/man.conf. (See man.conf(5).)
and then you might like to check how the man lookup database is
made :-).
OK .. here's another clue. Su to man, and then run man.
-w or --path
Don't actually display the man pages, but do print
the location(s) of the files that would be format-
ted or displayed. If no argument is given: display
(on stdout) the list of directories that is
searched by man for man pages. If manpath is a link
to man, then "manpath" is equivalent to "man
--path".
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: backspace key in exceed?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:49:19 +0200
Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : => xmodmap -e "keysym BackSpace = 0x0008"
> : RESULT:
> : xmodmap: commandline:0: bad keysym target keysym 'BackSpace', no
> : corresponding keycodes
Yes, your semantics is way wrong. man xmodmap. You need an assigned
keycode first before you can remap the assignment. Try
keycode 22 = BackSpace Delete
(or whatever turns you on). Choose the right keycode for ypur board.
> : xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting.
Peter
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Subject: Re: I would like to register a complaint ...
From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 23:13:53 GMT
KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> First of all you say "format != clearing". You want to elaborate on that or
> just leave it up to my imagination? What specifically is the difference?
Formatting is like using the "quick" option in Windows (format /q),
clearing means writing 0's over all the data so that if someone takes
your hard disk they can't easily recover your files.
Your message is very very confusing! What *exactly* do you want to
do? Your first post already listed the commands people would suggest:
mke2fs (formats), and dd (scribbles on the data).
Honestly, we're BAFFLED. Your message could not be more confusing if
you had said "why doesn't Linux allow editing of files". So obviously
we're missing something important in the question.
The answer, if your original question was indeed the one you wished to
ask, is to take your sequence of:
change partition id to DOS by using fdisk
boot into DOS
format partition in DOS
reboot into linux
change partition id back to ext2 using fdisk
run "mke2fs /dev/whatever".
and if that does what you want, then change the sequence to do:
run "mke2fs /dev/whatever".
Maybe some hints here:
- Did you unmount the partition before trying to format it?
umount /dev/whatever
- Were you trying to format your root partition, which can't be unmounted?
Formatting your root partition is a major headache (just like
under windows).
- Are you giving the right device name to mke2fs?
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From: Norman Madden <ntmaddenNO [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.ppp,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.* and pppd-2.4.0*
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:17:46 -0400
Natman wrote:
> When you compiled the kernel, you didn't select PPP in the config (It's
> in
> Network Device Support). If you have no clue how to configure the kernel,
> run "make menuconfig" when in the directory with the kernel sources. I
> recommend that you choose PPP to be part of the kernel, rather than as a
> module.
>
> Natman
>
> "Richard Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi, I have problems to use pppd-2.4.0x in the kernel 2.4.x. I was using
>> the kernel 2.2.16 which came with RH7. Since it doesn't support usb zip
>> drive, I try to upgrade it to kernel 2.4.x. I had upgraded my original
>> rh7 (such as gcc-2.96.x, glibc-2.2.12, util-linux-2.10s, ...etc except
>> the kernel) before I started the installation of the kernel 2.4.x. I had
>> read the Documentation/Changes. I basically had a greater than or equal
>> to the versions of the software described in the document. I have tried
>> different versions of pppd-2.4.0x and kernel 2.4.x but they all give me
>> the same message:
>>
>> pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because
>> the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not
>> included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a
>> module, try `/sbin/modprobe -v ppp'. If that fails, check t
I got the exact same error, here is how I fixed it.
FROM THE DOC FILE:
.........
Current Minimal Requirements
============================
Upgrade to at *least* these software revisions before thinking you've
encountered a bug! If you're unsure what version you're currently
running, the suggested command should tell you.
Again, keep in mind that this list assumes you are already
functionally running a Linux 2.2 kernel. Also, not all tools are
necessary on all systems; obviously, if you don't have any PCMCIA (PC
Card) hardware, for example, you probably needn't concern yourself
with pcmcia-cs.
o Gnu C 2.91.66 # gcc --version
o Gnu make 3.77 # make --version
o binutils 2.9.1.0.25 # ld -v
o util-linux 2.10o # fdformat --version
o modutils 2.4.0 # insmod -V
o e2fsprogs 1.19 # tune2fs --version
o pcmcia-cs 3.1.21 # cardmgr -V
o PPP 2.4.0 # pppd --version
o isdn4k-utils 3.1beta7 # isdnctrl 2>&1|grep
version
PPP
---
The PPP driver has been restructured to support multilink and to
enable it to operate over diverse media layers. If you use PPP,
upgrade pppd to at least 2.4.0b1.
If you are not using devfs, you must have the device file /dev/ppp
which can be made by:
mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0
as root.
If you build ppp support as modules, you will need the following in
your /etc/modules.conf file:
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
If you use devfsd and build ppp support as modules, you will need
the following in your /etc/devfsd.conf file:
LOOKUP PPP MODLOAD
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From: "Jeffrey Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: K7V133A & RH7.0
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 23:15:10 GMT
Hi, just want to find out if anyone has installed RH7.0 on an ASUS K7V133A
mboard, and would like to know of your opinion of such a combination.
Thanks in advance.
Jeff
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux only boots with a floppy (dual boot with win98)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:37:44 -0700
Change your boot device to /dev/hda. As it is lilo is installing its boot
record on your 2nd partition when it should be written to the MBR in
order to boot the drive directly.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dave Berntson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I loaded linux rh 7.0 a couple of weeks ago. I used fips to put win98
> on the first partition (2.3 gbytes), and Disk Druid to delete the second
> partition (1.7Gb). Then I added a boot, swap, and root partition, (and
> formatted them), and loaded linux on the root partition. I made the
> linux boot floppy during the install. Now, linux will only boot if I
> use that floppy. What I would like is to always have a choice (during
> boot from hard drive), to load one, or the other.
> Here is my lilo.conf:
>
> boot=/dev/hda2
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From: Stray Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,bellsouth.net.support.adsl,bellsouth.net.support.linux
Subject: Re: this is Bellsouth policy.
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 19:49:00 -0400
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:34:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack Agent
3509) wrote:
>On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 01:55:40 -0400, Stray Cat
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 05:03:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack Agent
>>3509) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:25:02 -0400, John M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A happy Bellsouth customer without a decent news server?
>>>
>>>I would be a happy Bellsouth customer even if they just discontinued
>>>the damn newservers already. They have pretty much always sucked
>>>anyway.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, you could always get a T-1 and then for your $1000
>>>per month you will have to buy a premium newservice anyway..
>>>
>>>You pay $50 for this service...come on. No affordable home broadband
>>>can even come close to this!! Hell they could also can the stinking
>>>mail servers for all I care.
>>
>>Really? I pay $50, and get good news and mail (but I don't use the
>>mail, I run my own).
>
>Does Telocity's newservers really compare to alt, supernews or any of
>the premium servers?? When they eventually force me off my bridged
>connection I will probably get to see firsthand...
Sure. When the server was in top shape completion and speed were
absolutely stellar. It more than rivaled commercial services, it was
clearly better. These days completion in now good again, but not quite
as good as it was. Speed is off a bit during peak hours, but great
during the day. There is interaction between the completion and the
speed. When the server is under heavy reading load, completion can
start to slip. But it a very good freebie still.
Given Bellsouth's now public admission that bridging will be
deprecated, that ought to clinch it for those who find this important
to them. How many will wait till it's gone before actually going
elsewhere is the big question. My feel is that the longer you postpone
the inevitable, the greater the chance that a change will be more
difficult or not turn out as well. Of course Bellsouth's performance
to schedules could mean that bridging will be around a lot longer than
they are saying now. But so is that news server fiasco that was
supposed to be cleared up by April 2000. I wouldn't count on this
though.
>>>Who wants their IP and all that BS crap in the headers anyway?
>>
>>My ISP's news server doesn't put IPs in the headers. But they still
>>can know who made the post.
>
>I'm pretty sure anyone running a newserver could tell who made a post
>in question, the difference is just seeing it in the headers or
>obtaining a court order.
Anyone running a news server can tell who made posts if they keep
logs. They don't need a court order to read their own logs. They may
require a court order to reveal that information to interested third
parties, but plenty of them will roll over without any legal paperwork
at all.
>
>>>One warez post and you would be back on dialup...
>>
>>LOL. And you'd lose that account too on the next illegal post if you
>>upped it directly to a news server. Unless the server was in Russia or
>>some such place.
>
>
>I'm talking about the difference in upping warez from your bellsouth
>server vs say alt.net's servers. With one you MAY lose your news
>account - the other...back on dialup....or the next broadband
>provider...
>
Sure. But you might not even lose your news account on alt.net. You
will have to deal with the legal problems yourself, alt.net doesn't
get involved in that. They just surrender evidence. But everyone gets
a second chance there, at least.
All you have to do is re-affirm that you won't use the service in ways
that are against the AUP. In fact, I don't know anyone who actually
got shut off for warezing. They generated some posts that led to
complaints, the complaints were forwarded to the poster and they had
to reply that they got the complaint and that they would abide by the
AUP.
The tone of the letter is completely non-accusatory. They don't say
you did anything wrong or illegal, just that someone complained, and
if what they say happened is true, it might be a problem.
The only catch with this is that you can't ignore the letter. They
will send e-mail to your address on record and if you ignore it or it
bounces, they may disable your ability to post until you get in touch
with them about this.
But sure, posting something bad to a Bellsouth news server wouldn't be
smart if you could do it another way, even if you had to pay for that
other way. However, it's a matter of degree. If someone complains to
altnet, for example, they get your name and the IP you used too. There
is nothing to prevent the complainant from also whining to Bellsouth
about illegal use of the service. Check your AUP on this. It doesn't
say illegal acts on their servers, it says illegal acts using their
network.
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I would like to register a complaint ...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:51:04 -0700
You _don't_ want the filesystem mounted when you do this. I doubt
anything more practical than massive filesystem corruption would result.
Why you are going to all this extra effort when a simple sequence like
this would work (using hda3 as an example):
# umount /dev/hda3
# mke2fs /dev/hda3
# mount /dev/hda /some/mountpoint
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "KCmaniac"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you say you have "formatted" an ext2 fs using these two commands: cat
> /dev/zero > /dev/hdxX (assuming, of course, hdxX is mounted)
> followed by
> mke2fs /dev/hdxX
>
> and that partition was as usable as it was before even though it is now
> one huge file full of zeros?
>
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From: maher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uninstall x-windows
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 08:03:38 +0500
Chris,
thanks a lot dude :) I want to disable x-windows cause running firewall
;)
regards,
maher
Chris Coyle wrote:
> Maher,
> there may be more than 1 package involved. Do this:
>
> rpm -qa | grep XFree86
>
> This should give you a list of package names.
> However, I don't know which ones you can safely remove.
> (Anybody else know?)
> That may also depend on how your system is configured.
> When it comes to removing packages you have to be very careful.
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From: maher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Squid&RH 7.0
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 08:06:26 +0500
KW wrote:
>
> We didn't have to change our firewall rules.. as long as you can get
> out on the masq you should be ok.. far as setting up squid, you can
> pretty much install the RPMS and goto the squid.conf file and go through
> it. The .conf explains itself pretty well. If you want to run it as a
> transparent proxy... you simply use prerouting to grab all packets on 80
> and send them to 3128 on squid... ;)
BTW, how do you do that? is it using ipchains to redirect packets from
80 to 3128?
thanks
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