Linux-Setup Digest #7, Volume #21 Sat, 7 Apr 01 16:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ("Colorado Dave")
Re: Mounting vfat rw for all users ("Vigil")
Linux Web Discussion Board ("Mike DiCarlo")
Re: Mounting vfat rw for all users (P.T.Gowadia)
Re: Looking for "drivers.img", where can I find it ? (Raphael Arlitt)
Re: 233 MHz and 32 MB SDRAM (Rithban)
Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ("Yozza")
Re: 2.2.16 => 2.4.2 wrong root filesystem (Ace Jones)
make modules_install error with 2.4.2 (root)
Re: make modules_install error with 2.4.2 (Ace Jones)
Re: version report (Michael Heiming)
Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ("Stephen T Cripps")
Re: make modules_install error with 2.4.2 (Ace Jones)
Re: Epson printer configuration for LaTeX (Thomas Tonino)
Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ("Yozza")
Closing ports by closing services (Craig Van Tassle)
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From: "Colorado Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 17:14:11 GMT
Is it possible for people to DISCUSS an issue without resorting to
profanity, name-calling, and insults?
Not everyone uses the same search engines for pricing, or has the time
to check every statement made to verify prices are current. It was not
very long ago (maybe 4 weeks??) that DDR RAM WAS 4X more expensive.
And just because someone doesn't agree with you or has incorrect
information doesn't call for this kind of language.
Is this how you talk to everyone? Does it make you feel superior?
Just correct the statement with "I can buy DDR RAM at x dollars here."
Both of you sound rather...childish!
CD
"Yozza" <reply.to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:nrHz6.4673$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What a load of crap!
"Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> get your facts straight before you spew your semen all over the place
boy.
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From: "Vigil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting vfat rw for all users
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 18:19:19 +0100
Try also: umask=000
"Daniel Kowalewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had the audacity to claim:
> options in fstab for hda5 defaults,rw,users
--
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From: "Mike DiCarlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux.turbolinux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat
Subject: Linux Web Discussion Board
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 10:24:59 -0700
There is a great Linux web discussion board up at http://linuxask.com
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From: P.T.Gowadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting vfat rw for all users
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 17:30:08 -0000
Try making the options auto,rw,users.This way,it should mount
automatically at startup in readwrite mode.
Daniel Kowalewski wrote:
>
> How do I mount a vfat partition (/dev/hda5) so that users can read write
> to them without having them to remount them on startup? The way it is
> now, only root can read and write to them but if I log in with a user
> they can only read them. However since I have the users option, I can
> unmount the partition and remount it. Then the user can write to it.
> The layout is hda1 swap
> hda2 ext2
> hda3 vfat
> hda4 (the weird dos thing)
> hda5 vfat
> options in fstab for hda5 defaults,rw,users
> Is this possible?
>
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From: Raphael Arlitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for "drivers.img", where can I find it ?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:45:01 +0200
Sorry I just know for suse...
On their ftp server and cdroms they have a
directory called disks where all the images for
floppys (e.g. boot, modules) are inside.
Just dd (man dd) these images to the floppy and you're set.
Raphael
Cedric Chausson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I want to install linux via NFS but my Ethernet card does not appear on
> the list proposed. I have been told I need a drivers disk with a file
> names drives.img on it. But I cant find it anywhere.
>
> I have looked on the CD of my distribution but nothing there.
>
> I have looked on the RH ftp site but but nothing there.
>
> Does anyone know where I can find this ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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From: Rithban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 233 MHz and 32 MB SDRAM
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:45:46 -0600
> is it worth to install a SuSE Linux 7.1 on a PC with 233MHz and 32 MB
> SDRAM?? But the Linux should work fast...
We have a headless file server that is the same with a little more RAM.
It works very good.
Do not run GNOME or KDE unless you expect to be slow. A smaller window
manager will be needed (twm, fvwm, others).
--
Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master.
- Sallust (86-34 B.C.)
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Reply-To: "Yozza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Yozza" <reply.to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:42:16 +0100
Did I say anything about DRAM pricing?
No, I believe I did not.
All I said was that he was talking outta his (_|_)
It's better not to post, then to post misinformation.
Saying that Micron/Crucial RAM uses 'compressed' memory chips is a load of crap.
How can you say such rubbish when everyone else is saying how good the RAM is?
Compatibility?
Crucial RAM is the most compatible DDR SDRAM that is availible.
Lower FSB speeds to get CL2?
Again, where did he get this info? It is obviously incorrect. Crucial's DDR RAM
is the most overclockable you can find on the market, and the Micron chips it
uses are very happy with strict timings.
Little overclocking potential?
Look above. Also, you should read www.gamepc.com 's review of PC1600 RAM from
Crucial. It outperformed both Mushkin and Samsung PC2100, and proved to be more
stable/compatible.
Stephen *should* get his facts straight before posting this misinformation.
Yoz
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"Colorado Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:DVHz6.571649$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| Is it possible for people to DISCUSS an issue without resorting to
| profanity, name-calling, and insults?
| Not everyone uses the same search engines for pricing, or has the time
| to check every statement made to verify prices are current. It was not
| very long ago (maybe 4 weeks??) that DDR RAM WAS 4X more expensive.
|
| And just because someone doesn't agree with you or has incorrect
| information doesn't call for this kind of language.
| Is this how you talk to everyone? Does it make you feel superior?
| Just correct the statement with "I can buy DDR RAM at x dollars here."
|
| Both of you sound rather...childish!
|
| CD
|
| "Yozza" <reply.to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| news:nrHz6.4673$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| > What a load of crap!
|
| "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| > get your facts straight before you spew your semen all over the place
| boy.
|
|
|
|
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From: Ace Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.16 => 2.4.2 wrong root filesystem
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 18:50:49 GMT
Craig Kelley wrote:
> > I currently have a strange problem while trying to upgrade from
> > Kernel 2.2.16 to Kernel 2.4.2 (I already found several postings
> > reporting similar problems, but I found nothing that helped...)
> >
> > Kernel 2.2.16 boots with no problems. Kernel 2.4.2 also
> > boots, but the root filesystem it mounts is not valid;
> > I get the root password prompt for maintenance mode, so I
> > log in and do an ls and ... see the contents of a file
> > system which contains files and directories from the
> > file system which was there before I re-installed the system
> > some days ago.
>
> Use the 'rdev' command to examine the kernel image; make sure it's
> trying to boot the proper partition:
>
> rdev /boot/linuximage-2.4.2
>
> (and it should report the proper partition)
I have a similiar problem... And I'm wondering, "what next?"
I compiled 2.4.3 to a floppy disk. I run rdev /dev/fd0, and it reports
"root device /dev/sda2", which is absolutely correct.
But when booting, I get countless different messages complaining
"root fs not mounted", which culminates in "Kernel panic: VFS unable to
mount root fs on 08:02"
Anyone have any (other) ideas?
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: make modules_install error with 2.4.2
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:00:40 GMT
I'm getting the following from the last step in a new kernel build --
mkdir -p pcmcia; \
find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{} pcmcia
if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.2; fi
/sbin/depmod: invalid option -- F
Usage: depmod [-e -s -v ] -a [FORCED_KERNEL_VER]
depmod [-e -s -v ] MODULE_1.o MODULE_2.o ...
Create module-dependency information for modprobe.
-a, --all visit all modules
-d, --debug run in debug mode
-e output unresolved symbols
-r <root>, --root <root> change root first
-s, --system-log use the system log for error reporting
--help display this help and exit
-v, --verbose run in verbose mode
-V, --version output version information and exit
make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
Is there a new version of depmod that supports a -F parameter ?
Thanks.
Dave
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From: Ace Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: make modules_install error with 2.4.2
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:11:41 GMT
root wrote:
> I'm getting the following from the last step in a new kernel build --
>
> mkdir -p pcmcia; \
> find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{} pcmcia
> if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.2; fi
> /sbin/depmod: invalid option -- F
> Usage: depmod [-e -s -v ] -a [FORCED_KERNEL_VER]
> depmod [-e -s -v ] MODULE_1.o MODULE_2.o ...
> Create module-dependency information for modprobe.
>
> Is there a new version of depmod that supports a -F parameter ?
You need to update modutils. Run ismod -V, and it will probably report
a version less than 2.4.2. Be sure to read the Documentation/Changes
file. There are probably a bunch of other things you'll need to update also.
I know because this happened to me about 2 hours ago...
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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:20:05 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: version report
Ron Nicholls wrote:
>
> Is there a standard option to interogate
> all programs and libraries to display their
> version numbers
You don't write which distro you use?
You could try "rpm -qa" or "rpm -qai", or even better:
man rpm
Michael Heiming
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Reply-To: "Stephen T Cripps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Stephen T Cripps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:13:12 +0100
Thanks Dave. I was trying to inform readers of information made available
to me by my memory supplier - which is industry 'insider' information that
general consumers may not be privy to. The industry as a whole has concerns
over the way Micron is marketing its chips. Micron is normally very good
memory and many of us use it. However, this issue relates specifically to
the PC2100 memory as sold by Crucial. Note that their PC1600 is CL2 (ie
PC1600A) and is a comparable market price to everywhere else. Crucial's
PC2100 is CL2.5 and is NOT the same product that Micron is selling to the
industry through its distributors. That is PC2100A (ie CL2) using a normal
chip configuration and performs very well. Crucial's PC2100B is unusually
cheap as far as the industry is concerned. This is not a matter of fear of
being undercut, but a worry that the market is being flooded with a poor
quality product that will make motherboards particularly, and systems in
general, appear unstable. If you saw 2 cars for sale that were both
supposedly exactly the same make, model, age, wear, etc, but one was one
third the price of the other, would you not ask yourself why it was so
cheap? It may be a genuine bargain; however, sad to say, people in this
world do not give away gifts without good reason.
I do not and cannot say do not buy Crucial memory; I simply would like
consumers to have as much fact about this new technology available as
possible. Many people are only just hearing about DDR RAM, let alone
understanding that there are different types and specifications. At the end
of the day, you may well wish to save a few bucks on a cheap product and
hope that it will work fine. I freely admit that my PC2100A product (which
often includes Micron originals) is at the market price and does not compete
with Crucial. But at least more people can now make an informed choice.
--
Stephen T Cripps
Proprietor
MFS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.m-f-solutions.mcmail.com
For the friendliest solutions ever...
"Colorado Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:DVHz6.571649$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: Is it possible for people to DISCUSS an issue without resorting to
: profanity, name-calling, and insults?
: Not everyone uses the same search engines for pricing, or has the time
: to check every statement made to verify prices are current. It was not
: very long ago (maybe 4 weeks??) that DDR RAM WAS 4X more expensive.
:
: And just because someone doesn't agree with you or has incorrect
: information doesn't call for this kind of language.
: Is this how you talk to everyone? Does it make you feel superior?
: Just correct the statement with "I can buy DDR RAM at x dollars here."
:
: Both of you sound rather...childish!
:
: CD
:
: "Yozza" <reply.to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:nrHz6.4673$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: > What a load of crap!
:
: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: > get your facts straight before you spew your semen all over the place
: boy.
:
:
:
:
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From: Ace Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: make modules_install error with 2.4.2
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:40:34 GMT
Ace Jones wrote:
> You need to update modutils. Run ismod -V, and it will probably report
> a version less than 2.4.2. Be sure to read the Documentation/Changes
> file. There are probably a bunch of other things you'll need to update also.
>
> I know because this happened to me about 2 hours ago...
Er, I mean insmod -V, not 'ismod'.
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From: Thomas Tonino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson printer configuration for LaTeX
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:55:16 +0200
Peter wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I got an Epson 890 Photo printer, which I got to work using CUPS and
> gimp-print. Printing foto's from the gimp works fine now.
>
> But...I want to use it for postscript/LaTeX as well, but I cannot get
> decent output. I does print latex, but it looks really light and at
> low resolution (big dots, almost matrix "quality"). I tried to
> generate higher output by modifying my config.ps for divps, and adding
> 720 dpi resolution, but that didn't help.
>
> How can I get good latex/postscript output?
It should be able to do this. Do you know for sure you give the right
options to Ghostscript? They are long, and they need to be in the right
combination.
It may pay to look into Foomatic
(http://www.linuxprinting.org/foomatic.html) to set your ghostscript
options. And if you dare, have a look at CUPS and the X Printing Panel
(http://cups.sourceforge.net/xpp/) which allow you to easily set printer
stuff from a gui called XPP, which is a replacement for lpr and lp.
I think your problem is just the options passed to the hgimp-print
driver and/or Ghostscript. With these set correctly, printing through
Ghostscript should be just as clean as from Gimp directly.
You can get proof of this by manually building a Ghostscript command
line with the Ghostscript you built with Gimp-print.
Thomas
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Reply-To: "Yozza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Yozza" <reply.to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:57:05 +0100
Yes, Crucial is releasing CL2 PC2100 RAM soon.
But their current PC2100 offering is perfectly stable at upto 160MHz FSB 2-2-2.
Can say that this is a poor quality product?
Crucial's RAM has always been cheap compared to, say, Mushkin; yet they offer
similar performance to these top quality products.
Why is PC2100 at CL2.5? Well, noone else sells them at CL2, except Corsiar's
very recent offerings.
These is nothing inherently wrong with products that operate with a CL of 2.5,
so why should you think that it is poor quality?
I suppose if you think CL2.5 is bad, then all PC2100 DDR RAM is bad [except
Corsiar's very expensive DIMM].
Crucial's is perfectly fine at CL2 anyway. Many people have confirmed this, and
say that it is very stable upto 160MHz DDR FSB.
I would say that Crucial is being conservative with it's claims.
Have you read www.gamepc.com 's review of Crucial's PC1600?
It is more stable then the other 2 P2100 DIMMs that they tested, and operated
flawlessly at 150MHz DDR 2-2-2. It was the most stable on the 2 DDR platforms
they tested - AMD760 and ALi MAGiK.
I think that all you are trying to do, is ward people away from Crucial's
PC2100, and into buying your company's RAM...
But believe me, PC2100 RAM is going to drop very quickly to remain competitive
with Crucial's pricing.
Yoz
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"If the world didn't suck, We'd all fall off"
����`����,,,,����`����,,,,����`����,,,,����`����,,,,����`����
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=========
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"Stephen T Cripps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ZVJz6.4336$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| Thanks Dave. I was trying to inform readers of information made available
| to me by my memory supplier - which is industry 'insider' information that
| general consumers may not be privy to. The industry as a whole has concerns
| over the way Micron is marketing its chips. Micron is normally very good
| memory and many of us use it. However, this issue relates specifically to
| the PC2100 memory as sold by Crucial. Note that their PC1600 is CL2 (ie
| PC1600A) and is a comparable market price to everywhere else. Crucial's
| PC2100 is CL2.5 and is NOT the same product that Micron is selling to the
| industry through its distributors. That is PC2100A (ie CL2) using a normal
| chip configuration and performs very well. Crucial's PC2100B is unusually
| cheap as far as the industry is concerned. This is not a matter of fear of
| being undercut, but a worry that the market is being flooded with a poor
| quality product that will make motherboards particularly, and systems in
| general, appear unstable. If you saw 2 cars for sale that were both
| supposedly exactly the same make, model, age, wear, etc, but one was one
| third the price of the other, would you not ask yourself why it was so
| cheap? It may be a genuine bargain; however, sad to say, people in this
| world do not give away gifts without good reason.
|
| I do not and cannot say do not buy Crucial memory; I simply would like
| consumers to have as much fact about this new technology available as
| possible. Many people are only just hearing about DDR RAM, let alone
| understanding that there are different types and specifications. At the end
| of the day, you may well wish to save a few bucks on a cheap product and
| hope that it will work fine. I freely admit that my PC2100A product (which
| often includes Micron originals) is at the market price and does not compete
| with Crucial. But at least more people can now make an informed choice.
|
| --
|
| Stephen T Cripps
| Proprietor
| MFS
|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| www.m-f-solutions.mcmail.com
|
| For the friendliest solutions ever...
|
| "Colorado Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| news:DVHz6.571649$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| : Is it possible for people to DISCUSS an issue without resorting to
| : profanity, name-calling, and insults?
| : Not everyone uses the same search engines for pricing, or has the time
| : to check every statement made to verify prices are current. It was not
| : very long ago (maybe 4 weeks??) that DDR RAM WAS 4X more expensive.
| :
| : And just because someone doesn't agree with you or has incorrect
| : information doesn't call for this kind of language.
| : Is this how you talk to everyone? Does it make you feel superior?
| : Just correct the statement with "I can buy DDR RAM at x dollars here."
| :
| : Both of you sound rather...childish!
| :
| : CD
| :
| : "Yozza" <reply.to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| : news:nrHz6.4673$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| : > What a load of crap!
| :
| : "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| : news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| : > get your facts straight before you spew your semen all over the place
| : boy.
| :
| :
| :
| :
|
|
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From: Craig Van Tassle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Closing ports by closing services
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:55:51 -0700
Hello I was wondering if any one know how RH7 loads up services. I
understand that RH uses the rc.d/ to start services but how do i tell
linux to not load them up?
I am trying to close off most of my ports. And also what is the X11
port used for?
Thanks
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